CCBill WMS: Success or Fail? - GoFuckYourself.com

MrDeiz · 12-11-2009, 10:54 AM

Your thoughts?

I was checking it yesterday and today and i really don't like it. And bad for me i can't use the old admin anymore after logging into wms.

It still has some major bugs. Like affiliates which have initial ccbill account with a program that didn't migrate to wms can't join wms programs by wms join codes for webmasters(only thru the wms admin).

It takes longer to load data and i can't open reports in a new tab anymore. It's uncomfortable to grab links and navigate most of wms the data.
And it kinda sucks that every fucker can view your address. Even if he's a program owner. Programs die like flies these days (only 3,5k of 40k of client accounts (CA) remained alive into the old system).

The only good thing is helpful support and billing's authority

So it's 'Fail' from here (sorry, CCBill

). The old system was great because of its simpleness. Just a few improvements was needed.

TheDA · 12-11-2009, 11:01 AM

Too early to say. When sponsors start using it I'll get an idea.

Les Grossman · 12-11-2009, 11:18 AM

I'm sure they will work the bugs out. It's a big step for them and it's going to have some bumps.

I have faith if ANYONE will work it out, it will be CCbill.

Tanker · 12-11-2009, 11:32 AM

I personally think the old system just needed click referral tracking and it would have been just fine its simple and easy to use

ganjaman · 12-11-2009, 11:35 AM

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andrej_NDC · 12-11-2009, 11:46 AM

CCbill is a huge sucess, because no matter what, you will always get your payment on time. No bullshit, no excuses, wires hit the bank account every tuesday, not one day late(if there isn't a holiday on monday). And you get paid 1 week after the period ends, not 2-4 weeks like with most sponsors.

And real webmasters don't need anything but a linking code.

andrej_NDC · 12-11-2009, 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by daizzzy

And it kinda sucks that every fucker can view your address.

No, he can't. You can simply choose so when signing up.

BUT when you sign-up for other programs, they don't get to see your address? lol

MrDeiz · 12-11-2009, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by andrej_NDC

No, he can't. You can simply choose so when signing up.

BUT when you sign-up for other programs, they don't get to see your address? lol

in wms they can. you simply can't join a program if you don't disclose your address. it's called 'accepting of private affiliates' and there's like 9 program (out of 150) which are ok with it

ganjaman · 12-11-2009, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by daizzzy

in wms they can. you simply can't join a program if you don't disclose your address. it's called 'accepting of private affiliates' and there's like 9 program (out of 150) which are ok with it

and what? you are working for those companies! in real life if you want to work for someone, you have to give out much more info! you dont get that this is normal industry as any other?

Agent 488 · 12-11-2009, 11:54 AM

you are in idiot. i hope no one listens to the continuous stream of misinformation that comes from your keyboard.

Quote:

Originally Posted by daizzzy

in wms they can. you simply can't join a program if you don't disclose your address. it's called 'accepting of private affiliates' and there's like 9 program (out of 150) which are ok with it

MrDeiz · 12-11-2009, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Agent 488

you are in idiot. i hope no one listens to the continuous stream of misinformation that comes from your keyboard.

yeah, and everyone listen to what troll says

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daizzzy (19:07:43 11/12/2009)
hi there
so i'm into wms right now, find/compare programs
i've checked all sections on the right and i got only 9 results. so it appears there aren't many programs on the list or am i doing something wrong?

CCBill (19:17:04 11/12/2009)
The 9 programs you see are the sponsors that allow private affiliates to use their program.

daizzzy (19:18:59 11/12/2009)
what's private affiliates?
i know programs have an option to be displayed into the list of wms programs. is it that?

CCBill (19:21:12 11/12/2009)
Private affiliate means, you do not provide account information to the sponsor.

daizzzy (19:23:01 11/12/2009)
how can i get complete list of wms programs?

CCBill (19:28:37 11/12/2009)
Under find/compre. Just click search button.

daizzzy (19:29:26 11/12/2009)
so that's it? only 9 programs? what i've asked before?

CCBill (19:32:05 11/12/2009)
In order to see the complete list you will need to check the box under account profile that says "allow sponsor to view your address:. If this box is checked, you will see more than the 10 sponsors.

CCBill (19:32:45 11/12/2009)
Since your account is set to "hide" only 9 sponsors using WMS allow affiliates to join their program.

SleazyDream · 12-11-2009, 12:22 PM

def needs work.....

12clicks · 12-11-2009, 12:46 PM

This industry never fails to make me laugh.
Any small time nobody can start a poll complaining about a company that is as good as gold.
Over what appears to be his inability to try to conduct business anonymously.
Wow

andrej_NDC · 12-11-2009, 01:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by daizzzy

in wms they can. you simply can't join a program if you don't disclose your address. it's called 'accepting of private affiliates' and there's like 9 program (out of 150) which are ok with it

No, they can't. If the affiliate doesn't want me to see the address, I won't.

BV · 12-11-2009, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by daizzzy

And bad for me i can't use the old admin anymore after logging into wms..

What do you mean by this? I can log into both.

MrDeiz · 12-12-2009, 01:11 AM

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Originally Posted by andrej_NDC

No, they can't. If the affiliate doesn't want me to see the address, I won't.

you haven't read my log, right?

2 BV maybe because your initial account program has migrated to wms or something. in my case it's confirmed by support that i can't login into old system anymore

fatfoo · 12-12-2009, 03:00 AM

I have no idea. I'm not involved in that. I didn't vote, daizzzy.

nation-x · 12-12-2009, 07:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 12clicks

This industry never fails to make me laugh.
Any small time nobody can start a poll complaining about a company that is as good as gold.
Over what appears to be his inability to try to conduct business anonymously.
Wow

Holy Crap! I think that is twice now that I have agreed with you.

ganjaman · 12-12-2009, 07:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 12clicks

This industry never fails to make me laugh.
Any small time nobody can start a poll complaining about a company that is as good as gold.
Over what appears to be his inability to try to conduct business anonymously.
Wow

thats what i thought ...

Les Grossman · 12-12-2009, 08:28 AM

While I like CCbill, I can also say I've yet to speak to ANYONE on their live chat system that has a clue what is going on. You have to call and speak to someone. I'm convinced their live chat support is based in India or some other 3rd world crap hole.

MrDeiz · 12-12-2009, 08:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Les Grossman

While I like CCbill, I can also say I've yet to speak to ANYONE on their live chat system that has a clue what is going on. You have to call and speak to someone. I'm convinced their live chat support is based in India or some other 3rd world crap hole.

icq guys work just great

LoveSandra · 12-12-2009, 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by ganjaman

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eroticty · 12-12-2009, 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by BV

What do you mean by this? I can log into both.

If you have wms setup for bvbucks, I have never seen it & I have been promoting you for years. My bv id number does not work for the CCBill Affiliate Admin System - login. I use my very first affiliate id to see that it tracks some clicks and I am happy.

Any time I get a email that say OMG!!!!!!!!!! ID #:whatever -just upgraded to wms, I delete the message cause I just can't be bothered to see if it is gonna work - this time.

Now, before someone decides to chain me to a stake and set me on fire, Let me say that I am completely happy with the part of ccbill that does work for me and I get more cheques from ccbill than any other place - so far.

BV · 12-12-2009, 12:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eroticty

If you have wms setup for bvbucks, I have never seen it & I have been promoting you for years. My bv id number does not work for the CCBill Affiliate Admin System - login. I use my very first affiliate id to see that it tracks some clicks and I am happy.

Any time I get a email that say OMG!!!!!!!!!! ID #:whatever -just upgraded to wms, I delete the message cause I just can't be bothered to see if it is gonna work - this time.

Now, before someone decides to chain me to a stake and set me on fire, Let me say that I am completely happy with the part of ccbill that does work for me and I get more cheques from ccbill than any other place - so far.

I would take what Daisy says with a grain of salt. Based on this and other threads he has started in the past, he really doesn't have a clue what he is talking about when it comes to CCBill.

Like you said your old "Legacy" CCBill links will always work even though the sponsor has migrated to WMS.

At one point I used my own affiliate script with the sites in BVCash (aka: bikinivoyeur.com, etc) I even have these old link styles still working, tracking, and showing sales in CCBill.

So I would rest assured that your traffic and money is safe in the hands of CCBill.

Cheers,
BV

burntfilm · 12-12-2009, 12:27 PM

CCbill is aces all the way, I can't completely comprehend the wms yet, will take some time to know what's up.

Juilan · 12-12-2009, 12:39 PM

So there was no automatic migration for affiliates? You mean to tell me my links that are all over the place suddenly don't work and credit me sales if the program has moved to WMS???

please correct me if I'm wrong.

SleazyDream · 12-12-2009, 12:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 12clicks

This industry never fails to make me laugh.
Any small time nobody can start a poll complaining about a company that is as good as gold.
Over what appears to be his inability to try to conduct business anonymously.
Wow

what's absolutely beautiful about CCbill is they ACTUALLY LISTEN to the people who you call the small timers

MrDeiz · 12-12-2009, 01:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Juilan

So there was no automatic migration for affiliates? You mean to tell me my links that are all over the place suddenly don't work and credit me sales if the program has moved to WMS???

please correct me if I'm wrong.

once you login into wms with your initial ccbill data you can't access the old admin anymore (at least in my case as i described above and what is confirmed by support)
your links (old ccbill links) are still ok no matter what
you need to migrate to wms to promote wms programs (so you get some brand new options into ccbill affiliate back-end), but if an old program migrates to wms, its old links remain active

2 BV please specify what exactly i'm saying wrong

BV · 12-12-2009, 01:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Juilan

So there was no automatic migration for affiliates? You mean to tell me my links that are all over the place suddenly don't work and credit me sales if the program has moved to WMS???

please correct me if I'm wrong.

YOU ARE HERE BY CORRECTED

All the old (CCBill Legacy) links will still work even after that program has migrated to CCBill's new WMS script.

If you wish to take advantage of the new features in WMS you will need to sign up for the program again and get a new link code.

Repeat: Your old links will still work.

BV · 12-12-2009, 01:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by daizzzy

2 BV please specify what exactly i'm saying wrong

Just STFU and quit pretending to be a CCBill Master Jedi.

You don't know shit, and like Sleazy you are not qualified to give CCBill support or comments.

eroticty · 12-12-2009, 08:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BV

I would take what Daisy says with a grain of salt. Based on this and other threads he has started in the past, he really doesn't have a clue what he is talking about when it comes to CCBill.

Like you said your old "Legacy" CCBill links will always work even though the sponsor has migrated to WMS.

At one point I used my own affiliate script with the sites in BVCash (aka: bikinivoyeur.com, etc) I even have these old link styles still working, tracking, and showing sales in CCBill.

So I would rest assured that your traffic and money is safe in the hands of CCBill.

Cheers,
BV

Since you don't have a reason to give me bad advice, does ccbill still track properly if ya encode the ampersands? Where &html= becomes &html=

Iron Fist · 12-12-2009, 11:00 PM

When WMS gives me a blowjob, until then, I remain skeptical.

Dirty Dane · 12-12-2009, 11:46 PM

It was in my account at the start, but with 404 pages. Then it disappeared and haven't seen it since. So I don't know. Fail so far..
... But CCBill has always been great and stable, and still is.

MrDeiz · 04-25-2010, 07:38 AM

so i was right. total failure
enormous fees they charge programs owners and affiliates wasted for nothing :mad
and ccbill legacy is still outdated affiliate back-end

the industry needs new and reliable billings (maybe some comming from mainstream). it's kinda a paradox. two major adult billings are totally retarded and those with merchants and gateways are just shady fucks

Kolargol · 04-25-2010, 12:29 PM

I don't think most sponsors use CCBill because they like their admin area. They just bill our members really efficiently and pay us on time every time. And thet have been doing so for many years. And live chat support is actually pretty good there.

MrDeiz · 04-26-2010, 10:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kolargol

I don't think most sponsors use CCBill because they like their admin area. They just bill our members really efficiently and pay us on time every time. And thet have been doing so for many years. And live chat support is actually pretty good there.

yes, CCBill is durable, but they are exploiting the monopoly on the market, they don't want to cooperate organically with the industry

View Poll Results: CCBill WMS: Success or Fail?
Success	6	14.63%
Fail	18	43.90%
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12-11-2009, 10:54 AM	#1
MrDeiz SignBucksDaily.com Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 9,802	CCBill WMS: Success or Fail? Your thoughts? I was checking it yesterday and today and i really don't like it. And bad for me i can't use the old admin anymore after logging into wms. It still has some major bugs. Like affiliates which have initial ccbill account with a program that didn't migrate to wms can't join wms programs by wms join codes for webmasters(only thru the wms admin). It takes longer to load data and i can't open reports in a new tab anymore. It's uncomfortable to grab links and navigate most of wms the data. And it kinda sucks that every fucker can view your address. Even if he's a program owner. Programs die like flies these days (only 3,5k of 40k of client accounts (CA) remained alive into the old system). The only good thing is helpful support and billing's authority So it's 'Fail' from here (sorry, CCBill ). The old system was great because of its simpleness. Just a few improvements was needed. __________________ Make money with WEBC$MS The only way to still make money in adult

12-11-2009, 11:32 AM	#4
Tanker Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Oakville, Ontario, Canada Posts: 9,287	I personally think the old system just needed click referral tracking and it would have been just fine its simple and easy to use __________________ Tanker ICQ 3427575 CCBTools Now featured in the CCBill.com APP STORE

12-11-2009, 12:22 PM	#12
SleazyDream I'm here for SPORT Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Phone # (401) 285-0696 Posts: 41,470	def needs work..... __________________ This dog, is dog, a dog, good dog, way dog, to dog, keep dog, an dog, idiot dog, busy dog, for dog, 20 dog, seconds dog! Now read without the word dog.

12-11-2009, 12:46 PM	#13
12clicks Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: God's right hand Posts: 19,785	This industry never fails to make me laugh. Any small time nobody can start a poll complaining about a company that is as good as gold. Over what appears to be his inability to try to conduct business anonymously. Wow __________________ I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

12-11-2009, 11:01 AM	#2
TheDA Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 4,665	Too early to say. When sponsors start using it I'll get an idea.

12-11-2009, 11:18 AM	#3
Les Grossman So Fucking Banned Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: On your last nerve Posts: 1,012	I'm sure they will work the bugs out. It's a big step for them and it's going to have some bumps. I have faith if ANYONE will work it out, it will be CCbill.

12-11-2009, 11:35 AM	#5
ganjaman So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: morava kurva! Posts: 2,292	signbucks daily ... success or fail? ... ...

12-11-2009, 11:46 AM	#6
andrej_NDC Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 7,760	CCbill is a huge sucess, because no matter what, you will always get your payment on time. No bullshit, no excuses, wires hit the bank account every tuesday, not one day late(if there isn't a holiday on monday). And you get paid 1 week after the period ends, not 2-4 weeks like with most sponsors. And real webmasters don't need anything but a linking code.

12-12-2009, 03:00 AM	#17
fatfoo ICQ:649699063 Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 27,763	I have no idea. I'm not involved in that. I didn't vote, daizzzy. __________________ Send me an email: [email protected]

12-12-2009, 08:28 AM	#20
Les Grossman So Fucking Banned Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: On your last nerve Posts: 1,012	While I like CCbill, I can also say I've yet to speak to ANYONE on their live chat system that has a clue what is going on. You have to call and speak to someone. I'm convinced their live chat support is based in India or some other 3rd world crap hole.

12-12-2009, 12:27 PM	#25
burntfilm Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Brooklyn NY, Providence, RI Posts: 972	CCbill is aces all the way, I can't completely comprehend the wms yet, will take some time to know what's up. __________________ Sorta...

12-12-2009, 12:39 PM	#26
Juilan Sultan of Swing Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: XXXodus Posts: 15,141	So there was no automatic migration for affiliates? You mean to tell me my links that are all over the place suddenly don't work and credit me sales if the program has moved to WMS??? please correct me if I'm wrong. __________________ My Best Converting VOD Sponsor \|

12-12-2009, 11:00 PM	#32
Iron Fist Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 23,400	When WMS gives me a blowjob, until then, I remain skeptical. __________________ i like waffles

12-12-2009, 11:46 PM	#33
Dirty Dane Sick Fuck Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: www Posts: 9,491	It was in my account at the start, but with 404 pages. Then it disappeared and haven't seen it since. So I don't know. Fail so far.. ... But CCBill has always been great and stable, and still is.

04-25-2010, 07:38 AM	#34
MrDeiz SignBucksDaily.com Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 9,802	so i was right. total failure enormous fees they charge programs owners and affiliates wasted for nothing :mad and ccbill legacy is still outdated affiliate back-end the industry needs new and reliable billings (maybe some comming from mainstream). it's kinda a paradox. two major adult billings are totally retarded and those with merchants and gateways are just shady fucks __________________ Make money with WEBC$MS The only way to still make money in adult

04-25-2010, 12:29 PM	#35
Kolargol Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: www.footfetishsponsors.com Posts: 1,319	I don't think most sponsors use CCBill because they like their admin area. They just bill our members really efficiently and pay us on time every time. And thet have been doing so for many years. And live chat support is actually pretty good there.