Great quote from 13 year old regarding Arizona law

[Fletch XXX]

?It?s going to change our lives,? said Emilio Almodovar, a 13-year-old American citizen from Phoenix. ?We can?t walk to school any more. We can?t be in the streets anymore without the pigs thinking we?re illegal immigrants.?


http://www.idahopress.com/news/artic...cc4c002e0.html

[Serial Pervert]

lol wtf

[sexdatesj]

Exact reason we have this LAW.. ignorant idiot fools!

[Amputate Your Head]

If you're in Arizona, make sure and dye your hair blond so the pigs will think you're one of the chosen race and leave you alone. And remember, if they confront you and try to put you in an "illegal immigrant detention cell" (prison death camp for Mexicans), lie to them. Your last name is not Gonzales, it's Johnson.

[VikingMan]

eugenics is a good idea for dogs and horses so I think it is time we applied this to humans

[CIVMatt]

Thank god for blonde hair and blue eyes

[RaiderCash_Dominik]

Originally Posted by Fletch XXX

“It’s going to change our lives,” said Emilio Almodovar, a 13-year-old American citizen from Phoenix. “We can’t walk to school any more. We can’t be in the streets anymore without the pigs thinking we’re illegal immigrants.”


http://www.idahopress.com/news/artic...cc4c002e0.html

pretty sad if you ask me.
he's an american citizen just as much as you're.

[Fletch XXX]

Originally Posted by RaiderCash_Dominik

pretty sad if you ask me.
he's an american citizen just as much as you're.

Has nothing to do with me, I am simply laughing at the quote. And besides, as an American citizen, he doesnt have anything to worry about.

[IllTestYourGirls]

I see a future gang member.

[TheDoc]

What a great girl, reference a cop as a "pig" - I'm sure the police will have nooooo reason to bash her head into the concrete some day.

[SmokeyTheBear]

Originally Posted by Fletch XXX

And besides, as an American citizen, he doesnt have anything to worry about.

if he looks mexican he does, he has to be worried about being racially profiled everytime he goes and get's milk from the store

[RaiderCash_Dominik]

Originally Posted by Fletch XXX

Has nothing to do with me, I am simply laughing at the quote. And besides, as an American citizen, he doesnt have anything to worry about.

He has to worry about cops asking him the question. Its like saying jews had nothing to worry in Warsaw as long as they had their patch with them.

[IllTestYourGirls]

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

if he looks mexican he does, he has to be worried about being racially profiled everytime he goes and get's milk from the store

He did before the law as well. If there were not 500,000 people breaking the law in AZ he wouldnt.

[Amputate Your Head]

Originally Posted by IllTestYourGirls

He did before the law as well.

Not unless he was involved in some sort of crime or something. Now he'll be questioned simply for being Hispanic and being outside.

[IllTestYourGirls]

Originally Posted by RaiderCash_Dominik

He has to worry about cops asking him the question. Its like saying jews had nothing to worry in Warsaw as long as they had their patch with them.

Why disrespect the Jews like that? Do not belittle their pain from what the Nazi did by comparing this AZ law to the extermination of millions of people.

[IllTestYourGirls]

Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head

Not unless he was involved in some sort of crime or something. Now he'll be questioned simply for being Hispanic and being outside.

Wrong. They still need probable cause to question people. Did you realize it was already a crime of migrants to be in the US and not have their papers with them?

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/29/opinion/29kobach.html

?Reasonable suspicion? is a meaningless term that will permit police misconduct. Over the past four decades, federal courts have issued hundreds of opinions defining those two words. The Arizona law didn?t invent the concept: Precedents list the factors that can contribute to reasonable suspicion; when several are combined, the ?totality of circumstances? that results may create reasonable suspicion that a crime has been committed.

For example, the Arizona law is most likely to come into play after a traffic stop. A police officer pulls a minivan over for speeding. A dozen passengers are crammed in. None has identification. The highway is a known alien-smuggling corridor. The driver is acting evasively. Those factors combine to create reasonable suspicion that the occupants are not in the country legally.

The law will allow police to engage in racial profiling. Actually, Section 2 provides that a law enforcement official ?may not solely consider race, color or national origin? in making any stops or determining immigration status. In addition, all normal Fourth Amendment protections against profiling will continue to apply. In fact, the Arizona law actually reduces the likelihood of race-based harassment by compelling police officers to contact the federal government as soon as is practicable when they suspect a person is an illegal alien, as opposed to letting them make arrests on their own assessment.

[TheDoc]

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

if he looks mexican he does, he has to be worried about being racially profiled everytime he goes and get's milk from the store

If you're legally here, you have no worries.... or as much worries as a young white kid, black man, or any other mixture/group of people - being profiled for looks. Which 99.9% of the time, isn't the cop stopping someone for walking down the street or doing nothing at all.

[Fletch XXX]

Looks like its already having effect:

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20100429/D9FCDCN00.html

Many of the cars that once stopped in the Home Depot parking lot to pick up day laborers to hang drywall or do landscaping now just drive on by.
Arizona's sweeping immigration bill allows police to arrest illegal immigrant day laborers seeking work on the street or anyone trying to hire them. It won't take effect until summer but it is already having an effect on the state's underground economy.
"Nobody wants to pick us up," Julio Loyola Diaz says in Spanish as he and dozens of other men wait under the shade of palo verde trees and lean against a low brick wall outside the east Phoenix home improvement store.
Many day laborers like Diaz say they will leave Arizona because of the law, which also makes it a state crime to be in the U.S. illegally and directs police to question people about their immigration status if there is reason to suspect they are illegal immigrants.

[Amputate Your Head]

Originally Posted by IllTestYourGirls

Wrong. They still need probable cause to question people. Did you realize it was already a crime of migrants to be in the US and not have their papers with them?

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/29/opinion/29kobach.html

It's also (still) a crime to herd more than 2000 sheep down the middle of the street in LA. What does that say about our high & mighty "laws"?

I suspect that the pigs will easily find "probable cause" in the fact that someone looks hispanic. "Well, he's Mexican, so that was my probable cause your honor."

[TheDoc]

Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head

It's also (still) a crime to herd more than 2000 sheep down the middle of the street in LA. What does that say about our high & mighty "laws"?

I suspect that the pigs will easily find "probable cause" in the fact that someone looks hispanic. "Well, he's Mexican, so that was my probable cause your honor."

Well that means, back in the day people use to herd more than 2000 sheep down streets of LA an understandable-yet stupid crime today.

That isn't probable cause, that's your ass getting sued for racial profiling, you going to jail for it, losing your job, your retirement, etc.

[IllTestYourGirls]

Originally Posted by Fletch XXX

Looks like its already having effect:

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20100429/D9FCDCN00.html

Good. Now we can get those tax paying legal immigrants to work!

[Amputate Your Head]

Originally Posted by TheDoc

Well that means, back in the day people use to herd more than 2000 sheep down streets of LA an understandable-yet stupid crime today.

That isn't probable cause, that's your ass getting sued for racial profiling, you going to jail for it, losing your job, your retirement, etc.

Well, they obviously won't use that wording in front of a judge. But it's pretty easy to squeak it through.

"He looked suspicious." is all it takes for a cop to cover his ass and do whatever he wants.

[Agent 488]

the states around arizona are about to get a sweet influx of cheap cheap labor.

[IllTestYourGirls]

Originally Posted by Agent 488

the states around arizona are about to get a sweet influx of cheap cheap labor.

And flooded hospitals with people getting free care, paid by legal citizens tax money.

[Amputate Your Head]

The police do NOT need this kind of authority. They're already way out of control. A short while back, a cop out here in the Bay Area straight up murdered a young black kid at a BART station, on video, in front of witnesses. A group of cops beat this kid down to the ground, then fucking shot him in the back while he was down. He was a kid waiting for a train. No weapon, no nothing.

Fucking police are the ones that need policing.

[TheDoc]

Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head

Well, they obviously won't use that wording in front of a judge. But it's pretty easy to squeak it through.

"He looked suspicious." is all it takes for a cop to cover his ass and do whatever he wants.

I support check points in the cities, more along the high ways... After all they racial profile
you at those check points and the border, and that's totally legal.


He looked suspicious isn't a legal answer though... no judge would accept it.

You would have already filled out paper work for this, written down what he did, why you thought it, and everything you said and he said... with that a recording from your Mic would have been provided.

Being that Police officers can be sued for racial profiling, them doing to that a Mexican American, without a real reason, will end that officers carrier.

[TheDoc]

Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head

The police do NOT need this kind of authority. They're already way out of control. A short while back, a cop out here in the Bay Area straight up murdered a young black kid at a BART station, on video, in front of witnesses. A group of cops beat this kid down to the ground, then fucking shot him in the back while he was down. He was a kid waiting for a train. No weapon, no nothing.

Fucking police are the ones that need policing.

Yes, people in power often do abuse it... however it's extremely rare. Thing is the news doesn't report the 1,000's and 10,000's of good the Police do, but they always report the bad, over and over and over.

[Amputate Your Head]

Originally Posted by TheDoc

Yes, people in power often do abuse it... however it's extremely rare. Thing is the news doesn't report the 1,000's and 10,000's of good the Police do, but they always report the bad, over and over and over.

I think a gang of pigs murdering a kid at a train station is worthy of reporting. It's hardly trivial.

[IllTestYourGirls]

Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head

I think a gang of pigs murdering a kid at a train station is worthy of reporting. It's hardly trivial.

Are these worth reporting?

On avg three border patrol agents assaulted daily and one kidnappings every 35 hours in PHOENIX.

[TheDoc]

Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head

I think a gang of pigs murdering a kid at a train station is worthy of reporting. It's hardly trivial.

True... but saying the police don't need this authority because of a few very rare events like this, is a bit crazy.

The cops are here to enforce the laws on the books..

[Agent 488]

just looked at stormfront filled with threads like this.

[TheDoc]

Originally Posted by IllTestYourGirls

Are these worth reporting?

On avg three border patrol agents assaulted daily and one kidnappings every 35 hours in PHOENIX.

True... and attacked every single day, all day - assaulted from the Mexico side.. almost all border units that actually patrol the border.

The border patrol trucks are looking more like armored caged trucks these days than a police unit.

[Amputate Your Head]

Originally Posted by IllTestYourGirls

Are these worth reporting?

On avg three border patrol agents assaulted daily and one kidnappings every 35 hours in PHOENIX.

They understood the risks that come with the job long before they ever got to that stage. They understand that violence is a part of the job they are being paid to do.

You think that kid thought he was gonna die at the train station that morning for no reason?

[TheDoc]

Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head

They understood the risks that come with the job long before they ever got to that stage. They understand that violence is a part of the job they are being paid to do.

You think that kid thought he was gonna die at the train station that morning for no reason?

Why does the kid make a difference at all? Because police "at very rare times" abuse the power they have or make mistakes? Based off your thinking them pulling you over, or doing anything, is an issue to you....

Police are here to enforce the laws on our books... and illegals are breaking those laws, thus the police have to do a job.

[TheDoc]

Amp are you supporting illegal immigration?

You live in a bankrupt state, that forks out billions to illegal immigrants every year.... a state that gives illegals more rights than you have, a state that forces you to pay higher taxes and them to pay none, the state forces you or you go to jail with nothing that can or will happen to them... and you're okay with this?

And you have an issue with profiling because some douche cop might step out of line?

What are you a super liberal or a multi offending criminal?

[Amputate Your Head]

Originally Posted by TheDoc

Why does the kid make a difference at all? Because police "at very rare times" abuse the power they have or make mistakes? Based off your thinking them pulling you over, or doing anything, is an issue to you....

Police are here to enforce the laws on our books... and illegals are breaking those laws, thus the police have to do a job.

It wasn't a 'mistake' or an abuse of power. It was Felony Murder 1. They fucking murdered him in broad daylight in front of the other commuters. Oakland went into riot mode over it.

Or how about the head of the San Francisco Drug Lab stealing cocaine evidence for years. Or the cop in Hawaii stealing cocaine evidence for years. Are those abuses of power? Or crime as it is applied to everyone else?

How come when a cop gets caught doing these things, they get a paid vacation instead of prison time?

No, I don't have a problem with a cop pulling me over, as long as I'm doing something that warrants it, like speeding. I do have a problem with being pulled over for no reason and being asked for my proof of citizenship.

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

if he looks mexican he does, he has to be worried about being racially profiled everytime he goes and get's milk from the store

hey, i have a chance of being profiled every time i get in my car and drive somewhere. a cop can stop me if he profiles me to have driving characteristics like someone would who is driving drunk. he can pull me over and check if i am drunk or not all based on profiling. if i don't like it, i can chose not to drive but the issue is important enough such that we all have to deal with what it takes to get the problem under control.

[Amputate Your Head]

Originally Posted by TheDoc

Amp are you supporting illegal immigration?

You live in a bankrupt state, that forks out billions to illegal immigrants every year.... a state that gives illegals more rights than you have, a state that forces you to pay higher taxes and them to pay none, the state forces you or you go to jail with nothing that can or will happen to them... and you're okay with this?

And you have an issue with profiling because some douche cop might step out of line?

What are you a super liberal or a multi offending criminal?

I don't support illegal immigration, but I am against this profiling in every way. Why?
Because once it's okay to profile one group, it's okay to start profiling other groups for other reasons. You're okay with that? Where does that stop? Do we start profiling people with piercings or tattoos because they might be up to no good?

How about we just require every single 'lawful citizen' to get a government microchip implanted in our necks so the fucking police can scan us to verify our compliance with the Gestapo.

[TheDoc]

Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head

It wasn't a 'mistake' or an abuse of power. It was Felony Murder 1. They fucking murdered him in broad daylight in front of the other commuters. Oakland went into riot mode over it.

That is an abuse of power.... of course they would go down for murder like any criminal would.

That's why we have internal affairs, cops do break laws too.

Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head

Or how about the head of the San Francisco Drug Lab stealing cocaine evidence for years. Or the cop in Hawaii stealing cocaine evidence for years. Are those abuses of power? Or crime as it is applied to everyone else?

How come when a cop gets caught doing these things, they get a paid vacation instead of prison time?

No, I don't have a problem with a cop pulling me over, as long as I'm doing something that warrants it, like speeding. I do have a problem with being pulled over for no reason and being asked for my proof of citizenship.

They got prison.. murder = prison, and if the others committed a crime, they got into trouble as well, drugs though doesn't always mean prison - it means rehab... they didn't get a slap on the wrist though.


Again.. the 10,000's of good they do far out weights the bad.. it isn't perfect in any country.


And no worries... a cop would never ask you or any English speaking person that can provide a DL for proof of citizenship.

[SEO Expert]

Too bad the kid is indoctrinated and just plain wrong.

Someone should tell the little cretin that if he wants to feel truly unsafe and wants to experience a true police state she should move to Mexico.

[Amputate Your Head]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

hey, i have a chance of being profiled every time i get in my car and drive somewhere. a cop can stop me if he profiles me to have driving characteristics like someone would who is driving drunk. he can pull me over and check if i am drunk or not all based on profiling. if i don't like it, i can chose not to drive but the issue is important enough such that we all have to deal with what it takes to get the problem under control.

That's not a 'profile' bro. That's a real-time action that affects public safety that requires the cop to pull you over and gather more info.

[TheDoc]

Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head

I don't support illegal immigration, but I am against this profiling in every way. Why?
Because once it's okay to profile one group, it's okay to start profiling other groups for other reasons. You're okay with that? Where does that stop? Do we start profiling people with piercings or tattoos because they might be up to no good?

How about we just require every single 'lawful citizen' to get a government microchip implanted in our necks so the fucking police can scan us to verify our compliance with the Gestapo.

Oh I totally support racial profiling for immigration, without question! They already do it at the borders and check points, it's not like I have ever been stopped at those check points - I don't look Mexican.

I get racial profiled in other Countries all the time, I have ZERO issues with it and would LOVE our Country to do it.

[Tanker]

Originally Posted by IllTestYourGirls

Why disrespect the Jews like that? Do not belittle their pain from what the Nazi did by comparing this AZ law to the extermination of millions of people.

I couldn't agree with that more

They Nazi's rounded up Jews to Kill them for being Jewish didn't matter who or what you were other then Jewish


The AZ Police are going to carry out the law of the land and question an already detained person if they are legal to be in the USA If they are a US Citizen what to they have to hide? why would they care unless they are illegal or they are hiding something or someone.

If they are not a US Citizen they are required to carry their passport and VISA on them at all times already anywhere while visiting the USA


If they are breaking the law and here Illegally they are a FELON

If 20 Million Americans all decided to stop paying taxes and break the law you bet the IRS will be all over each and everyone of them. They will hire as many agents as needed to collect that money and round up the 20 million Americans

Why are we not hiring enough agents to secure the border and deport Illegal Felons

Every American born here or naturalized should be pissed that this is not already being enforced

Most Immigrants that that I have spoke to or heard speak that are here legally iare for this too. Many are pissed that now their families are getting pushed to the back of the bus while the illegals are getting a front row seat to citizenship

It cost a lot of money to legally immigrate to the USA and its a shame that people are doing it right and struggling to do it right when the illegals that are scamming the system are getting an easy pass

Its just wrong!

[Fletch XXX]

Im with Amp on policing police though, I dont have answers to fix the illegal immigration stuff but I do know id trust a biker before a cop.

Raised by the 1%ers

[Cyber Fucker]

True that.... this law is disgusting because only Mexican looking people will be arrested and whatever they are legal or not... let's say someone Mexican looking will leave his id at home and will meet some "pig"? You know what will be next?

[TheDoc]

Originally Posted by Fletch XXX

Im with Amp on policing police though, I dont have answers to fix the illegal immigration stuff but I do know id trust a biker before a cop.

Raised by the 1%ers

The police do get policed otherwise they wouldn't ever get busted for doing illegal activities.

Come on now....

[Fletch XXX]

Originally Posted by TheDoc

The police do get policed otherwise they wouldn't ever get busted for doing illegal activities.

Come on now....

i didnt say they do not., i said i agree they should lol


1%er baby

[TheDoc]

Originally Posted by Cyber Fucker

True that.... this law is disgusting because only Mexican looking people will be arrested and whatever they are legal or not... let's say someone Mexican looking will leave his id at home and will meet some "pig"? You know what will be next?

Well, when you responded in English, gave your name and address, probably could give him your DL number (which is what he would ask) and if all else failed you could give your SSN.

You could then take your ticket home with you for not having your DL on you, like every other American would get.

[Amputate Your Head]

Originally Posted by TheDoc

The police do get policed otherwise they wouldn't ever get busted for doing illegal activities.

Come on now....

Shit...

I have several family members that are police. You would be appalled at the shit they get away with.

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head

That's not a 'profile' bro. That's a real-time action that affects public safety that requires the cop to pull you over and gather more info.

isn't it? they have a certain set of behaviors/patterns/whatever, that as part of their job they are trained to look for. that's a profile. and isn't the huge issues associated with immigration on par with public safety and certainly clearing out many of the illegals would contribute to an increase in public safety eh.