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Old 05-19-2010, 02:55 PM   #1
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LA City Council Boycott of Arizona Backfires!

Ah, the boneheads really did it this time. They are all gung-ho about boycotting AZ and its companies but they forgot one HUGE thing. 25% of LA's electricity comes form AZ. Guess what? AZ is thinking about turning it off!!

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...ty-supply.html

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WTF>>>> wow, this is a shit show thats about to get ugly
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Oh no! Now we have to buy it from one of the other 49 states instead!!!

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We should cut off their wine supply

We got grapes over here.
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Just wait til they talk about the water coming from Arizona too. Could get really ugly.
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states depend on each other, boycotting is not a good idea, but look at the politicians of California, I mean we have Pelosi and Boxer and Arnold, wait, do we have anyone intelligent?
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Arizona needs the cash, who else are they gonna sell power to?
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We should cut off their wine supply

We got grapes over here.
yeah it will go well with the candle light dinners cause you wont have stable electric then u can jam to bruce springsteen "dancing in the dark!"
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Just wait til they talk about the water coming from Arizona too. Could get really ugly.
summer is almost here cali may be the heat stroke capital this summer
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Just how hot do you think it gets here?
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Interesting, California has the same law that they are boycotting Arizona for:

Section 834b in the California Penal Code:

(a) Every law enforcement agency in California shall fully cooperate with the United States Immigration and Naturalization Service regarding any person who is arrested if he or she is suspected of being present in the United States in violation of federal immigration laws. (b) With respect to any such person who is arrested, and suspected of being present in the United States in violation of federal immigration laws, every law enforcement agency shall do the following: (1) Attempt to verify the legal status of such person as a citizen of the United States, an alien lawfully admitted as a permanent resident, an alien lawfully admitted for a temporary period of time or as an alien who is present in the United States in violation of immigration laws. The verification process may include, but shall not be limited to, questioning the person regarding his or her date and place of birth, and entry into the United States, and demanding documentation to indicate his or her legal status. (2) Notify the person of his or her apparent status as an alien who is present in the United States in violation of federal immigration laws and inform him or her that, apart from any criminal justice proceedings, he or she must either obtain legal status or leave the United States. (3) Notify the Attorney General of California and the United States Immigration and Naturalization Service of the apparent illegal status and provide any additional information that may be requested by any other public entity. (c) Any legislative, administrative, or other action by a city, county, or other legally authorized local governmental entity with jurisdictional boundaries, or by a law enforcement agency, to prevent or limit the cooperation required by subdivision (a) is expressly prohibited.

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it was a stupid move on behalf of LA to begin with.... stay out of other peoples politics. if the people of arizona dont like it, they can leave.

course then Cali would have twice as many illegals in it!
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Interesting, California has the same law that they are boycotting Arizona for:

Section 834b in the California Penal Code:

(a) Every law enforcement agency in California shall fully cooperate with the United States Immigration and Naturalization Service regarding any person who is arrested if he or she is suspected of being present in the United States in violation of federal immigration laws. (b) With respect to any such person who is arrested, and suspected of being present in the United States in violation of federal immigration laws, every law enforcement agency shall do the following: (1) Attempt to verify the legal status of such person as a citizen of the United States, an alien lawfully admitted as a permanent resident, an alien lawfully admitted for a temporary period of time or as an alien who is present in the United States in violation of immigration laws. The verification process may include, but shall not be limited to, questioning the person regarding his or her date and place of birth, and entry into the United States, and demanding documentation to indicate his or her legal status. (2) Notify the person of his or her apparent status as an alien who is present in the United States in violation of federal immigration laws and inform him or her that, apart from any criminal justice proceedings, he or she must either obtain legal status or leave the United States. (3) Notify the Attorney General of California and the United States Immigration and Naturalization Service of the apparent illegal status and provide any additional information that may be requested by any other public entity. (c) Any legislative, administrative, or other action by a city, county, or other legally authorized local governmental entity with jurisdictional boundaries, or by a law enforcement agency, to prevent or limit the cooperation required by subdivision (a) is expressly prohibited.

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do you like taking showers/baths and try running the a/c this summer with rolling blackouts
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Just wait til they talk about the water coming from Arizona too. Could get really ugly.
Problem is, is that LA called for an all out boycott of Arizona, to hurt our economy to appease the number of legal and illegal Mexican voters they have in that state and maybe, just maybe that they don’t want our illegal’s to run to their sanctuary state because they are already in finical distress and probably couldn’t handle it…just a thought.
Did Cali think they were going to bully us and not get any reaction? I think they have done damage with their campaign and repercussions have to come for their actions.

If it includes the CAP, then so be it ;)
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He has 60mph AC...called a motorcycle
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im guessing you dont run the a/c in the summer 90's is hot for me tho some years it reached 123 i think it was
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Ah, the boneheads really did it this time. They are all gung-ho about boycotting AZ and its companies but they forgot one HUGE thing. 25% of LA's electricity comes form AZ. Guess what? AZ is thinking about turning it off!!

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...ty-supply.html

It was just reported that Arizona does not have the legal ability to shut off the power as the plants supplying the power are not owned by Arizona but are owned by California.
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It was just reported that Arizona does not have the legal ability to shut off the power as the plants supplying the power are not owned by Arizona but are owned by California.
Would you happen to have a link to this story?
What plants are they referring to?

I don't think they own any of these plants
The electricity comes from coal-fired power plants in northern Arizona, a nuclear power plant outside Phoenix, and two hydroelectric plants on the Colorado River.
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It was just reported that Arizona does not have the legal ability to shut off the power as the plants supplying the power are not owned by Arizona but are owned by California.
you dont get it even if owned by cali they are governed by the state their in lights out!
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What plants are they referring to?

I don't think they own any of these plants
The electricity comes from coal-fired power plants in northern Arizona, a nuclear power plant outside Phoenix, and two hydroelectric plants on the Colorado River.
No link...I just saw it on a news show a few minutes ago...and they said that Arizona did not have the legal authority to shut off any flow of electricity to California as the power plants supplying the electricity to California are owned by California. I am just reporting what I heard on the news.
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I suspect there are contracts in place that prevent stupid people from trying to do stupid things.
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I don't care to spend much time researching the subject but a quick search revealed this...The Palo Verde Nuclear Generating Station, commonly referred to as Palo Verde Power Plant, is a nuclear power plant located in Wintersburg, Arizona 29% of the power plant is owned by Arizona over 25% is owned by California electric companies with approximately 5% of the 25% being owned by L.A. With the remaining % owned by several other companies from different states. I do not want to spend time researching the coal powered plants.
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No link...I just saw it on a news show a few minutes ago...and they said that Arizona did not have the legal authority to shut off any flow of electricity to California as the power plants supplying the electricity to California are owned by California. I am just reporting what I heard on the news.
Ok, no problem. I was curious if the person who you had heard it from possibly read it somewhere.
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They should just fuck with them and shut it off for 10 minutes. The inconvenience problems that would cause would be worth 100000x more the 10 mins loss of revenue.
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They should just fuck with them and shut it off for 10 minutes. The inconvenience problems that would cause would be worth 100000x more the 10 mins loss of revenue.
But I doubt that the lawsuit that followed...since Califonria owns almost as large a percentage of the Nuclear Power Plant as Arizona does...would be worth the 10 minutes of inconvenience that it caused California/L.A.
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Ok, no problem. I was curious if the person who you had heard it from possibly read it somewhere.
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That didn't stop the LA City Council. If they want to boycott AZ they should not pick and choose what they do want to take from AZ and should boycott it all!
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They should just fuck with them and shut it off for 10 minutes. The inconvenience problems that would cause would be worth 100000x more the 10 mins loss of revenue.
They made need to reduce output at all the plants for routine maintenance and just have enough power for AZ.
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No link...I just saw it on a news show a few minutes ago...and they said that Arizona did not have the legal authority to shut off any flow of electricity to California as the power plants supplying the electricity to California are owned by California. I am just reporting what I heard on the news.
The Palo Verde Nuclear Generating Station is located west of Phoenix. The Los Angeles Department of Water and Power owns 5 percent of the plant and 21 percent of a coal-fired plant on Navajo land to the north. They are right in saying Arizona, as a state, cannot shut off the power to LA, but the state can urge the power companies in Arizona to do so.
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They made need to reduce output at all the plants for routine maintenance and just have enough power for AZ.
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Old 05-19-2010, 07:14 PM   #39
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That didn't stop the LA City Council. If they want to boycott AZ they should not pick and choose what they do want to take from AZ and should boycott it all!
What contracts did the City of LA break?
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What contracts did the City of LA break?
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What a mess... what the fuck are doing govs from the White House? Shouldn't they cut this shit?
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Why would I call a state senator about a city question? I take it you know of no contracts that are being broken.
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Why would I call a state senator about a city question? I take it you know of no contracts that are being broken.
its a city that did it but it's concerning the whole state because a power shortage wont just be L.A.
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its a city that did it but it's concerning the whole state because a power shortage wont just be L.A.
So, what contracts are the City of LA breaking?
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So, what contracts are the City of LA breaking?
i heard some were like seminars city workers have here. and some training happens here with police ive seen cops from all over come here even california.
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LOL! LA could dump a turbine in the water at any beach and kill Arizona.

And they would have the money to do it as soon as the boycott started since they wouldn't pay Arizona anymore.

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Cali or whoever might own a healthy % of the power plant but I would be willing to bet the relay grids & power lines going to Cali are owned by Arizona.
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i heard some were like seminars city workers have here. and some training happens here with police ive seen cops from all over come here even california.
You realize CA is more than just the City of LA, right? Let me know when you have something other than what you may have heard. I have not been able to read anything that supports your contention.
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You realize CA is more than just the City of LA, right? Let me know when you have something other than what you may have heard. I have not been able to read anything that supports your contention.
if you email the head of the Az corporation comm. he may tell you.
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