idolbucks unlicensed Japanese content ? - GoFuckYourself.com

neonlights · 06-22-2010, 03:36 PM

picking up from https://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=974219

someone mentioned idolbucks like many other Japanese paysites are using unlicensed JAV content.

is this true ?

area51 - BANNED FOR LIFE · 06-22-2010, 03:45 PM

fuck off.

LickMyBalls · 06-22-2010, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by area51

fuck off.

crazytrini85 · 06-22-2010, 04:56 PM

Most of the Japanese sites use illegal content, just like the GF sites. Very few have a license to use Japanese content.

It doesn't matter though because they can get billing and all of you will still push them even if it is stolen content.

neonlights · 06-22-2010, 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by crazytrini85

Most of the Japanese sites use illegal content, just like the GF sites. Very few have a license to use Japanese content.

It doesn't matter though because they can get billing and all of you will still push them even if it is stolen content.

wtf so they just download shit from the web and put it in their paysite ? how is this legally possible ? what about all the other people buying content to build their paysites ?

munki · 06-22-2010, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by neonlights

wtf so they just download shit from the web and put it in their paysite ? how is this legally possible ? what about all the other people buying content to build their paysites ?

Welcome to the industry...

$5 submissions · 06-22-2010, 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by neonlights

wtf so they just download shit from the web and put it in their paysite ? how is this legally possible ? what about all the other people buying content to build their paysites ?

More like having contacts in Japan buying JAV stuff from all over Japan (JAV is also sold by vending machines. Imagine that!), rip them, upload via torrent, US-based distributor downloads, does some minor processing, posts, profits.

Score after this process

Rippers/pirates: 1 Rights owners: 0

gleem · 06-22-2010, 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by munki

Welcome to the industry...

indeed, they have been doing it for years.

Pics Traffic · 06-22-2010, 06:03 PM

I guess its not. Nobody from Idol Bucks wants to thow in 2 cents?

neonlights · 06-22-2010, 06:19 PM

I emailed [email protected] but it says could not send to the address....

I am kind of shocked because I have also been promoting asiamoviepass.com.... could they also be using unlicensed shit ?

Why are rest of us paying for content ?

Is it because Japanese companies can't do shit against american distributors jacking their shit and putting in their paysite ?

Noe · 06-22-2010, 06:24 PM

Idol Bucks has legally licensed Japanese content from my company, www.xxxcontentdirect.com. In my dealings with idolbucks, I've seen nothing but professsionalism from them. If anything they put more time and effort into verifying the rights we brokered than 95% of our clientle..which to me is even that more surprising because they're noobies.

neonlights · 06-22-2010, 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Noe

Idol Bucks has legally licensed Japanese content from my company, www.xxxcontentdirect.com. In my dealings with idolbucks, I've seen nothing but professsionalism from them. If anything they put more time and effort into verifying the rights we brokered than 95% of our clientle..which to me is even that more surprising because they're noobies.

even myracequeens.com ?

Barefootsies · 06-22-2010, 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Noe

Idol Bucks has legally licensed Japanese content from my company, www.xxxcontentdirect.com. In my dealings with idolbucks, I've seen nothing but professsionalism from them.

Agent 488 · 06-22-2010, 06:32 PM

welcome to the internet dork.

neonlights · 06-22-2010, 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Barefootsies

what about your celeb content ? is it licensed or is it jacked from the web ?

Barefootsies · 06-22-2010, 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by neonlights

what about your celeb content ? is it licensed or is it jacked from the web ?

What about your fourth nick on GFY after the banning of doridori/edori/lativia?

You're about due to be BANNED FOR LIFE at this point under the three strikes rule I'm thinking.

neonlights · 06-22-2010, 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Barefootsies

What about your fourth nick on GFY after the banning of doridori/edori/lativia?

You're about due to be BANNED FOR LIFE at this point under the three strikes rule I'm thinking.

What's all this thread about you selling "stolen" content ? You have ignored all questions directed to you regarding this matter for a long time.

neonlights · 06-22-2010, 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Noe

Idol Bucks has legally licensed Japanese content from my company, www.xxxcontentdirect.com. In my dealings with idolbucks, I've seen nothing but professsionalism from them. If anything they put more time and effort into verifying the rights we brokered than 95% of our clientle..which to me is even that more surprising because they're noobies.

hmm I'm thinking this is a shameless plug now because after viewing sites, I can't find the ones on idolbucks on your site.

Barefootsies · 06-22-2010, 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by neonlights

What's all this thread about you selling "stolen" content ? You have ignored all questions directed to you regarding this matter for a long time.

I'll never understand why you and DarkJedi go through this dance with each new nick on your way to being banned again. I typically never out you initially, even when I know it's you. Then you follow the same pattern of events over and over.

However, I am not going to do this every time you get outted, and work on your next ban. You will just have to do your usual melt down like you always do, and be banned again. Although, this time I think you are going to be BANNED FOR LIFE.

Tata.

stickyfingerz · 06-22-2010, 08:04 PM

Ahh makes perfect sense now. DoriDori suuuuuueeee priiiizzzee

fatfoo · 06-22-2010, 08:11 PM

Japanese women are beautiful.

fris · 06-22-2010, 08:19 PM

doridori how much for a scraper

webgurl · 06-22-2010, 10:52 PM

mine are licensed , I buy from direct from the studios I even have the 2257 model
release , lots of time you can tell if they are legit or not when you have
the matching videos + photosets (only the studios have full sets and access to this)
The license is expensive though it's almost the same price as shooting exclusive scenes
here via their non-exclusive dvd content .

neonlights · 06-22-2010, 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by stickyfingerz

Ahh makes perfect sense now. DoriDori suuuuuueeee priiiizzzee

did you get your kids back ?

tonyparra · 06-22-2010, 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by neonlights

did you get your kids back ?

ouch .....low blow?

stickyfingerz · 06-23-2010, 12:58 AM

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Originally Posted by neonlights

did you get your kids back ?

You'll be banned within hours, so not going to waste the effort typing what a little cunt you are.

neonlights · 06-23-2010, 01:05 AM

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Originally Posted by stickyfingerz

You'll be banned within hours, so not going to waste the effort typing what a little cunt you are.

shall I post the little site you made regarding the whole thing ?

Barefootsies · 06-23-2010, 01:09 AM

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Originally Posted by neonlights

Collecting from imagefap and pornbb ?

NickB. · 06-23-2010, 01:47 AM

nipporn.com = fully licensed at triplexcash.com

Hit me up if you need anything special besides getting paid on time and solid pps

HEAT · 06-23-2010, 02:49 AM

Many Japanese paysites use stolen content from Japan-based domestic AV-idol sites.

http://www.graphis.ne.jp
This is the original source that idolbucks and many others have an eye on. They just crop the watermark at original pictures then make their own FHGs and members content.

Proof:
the original picture

cropped picture Idolbucks using

http://www.idols69.net/pictures/689-Yui-Seto/index.html

jaawhores · 06-23-2010, 03:16 AM

Can't tell exactly, but i am working with them for a long time and never had problems, they always pay in time, even this time, when webmaster checks had problems they paid to me without any delays.

About content i think they had license because they simple can't stay on the market for so long time without it.

idolbucks · 06-23-2010, 04:15 AM

We do have licenses for all our content. We work with many content providers and studios. If you have any questions you can contact us here.

Mutt · 06-23-2010, 04:19 AM

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Originally Posted by idolbucks

We do have licenses for all our content. We work with many content providers and studios. If you have any questions you can contact us here.

CHARGER · 06-23-2010, 04:26 AM

Who really cares ? any of those picts belongs to anyone here ? no ! correct? people is getting paid here on time so why the drama ?

Haters we cant be without em

Mutt · 06-23-2010, 04:32 AM

you can also tell who isn't legit by the sheer amount of content they have - like ActionJav.com and 50 others like it. I've joined a few, photo content taken direct from the studios' own .jp paysites. The DVD's can be bought cheap from sites like Asian Screens who have no rights to be selling them.

i can tell which Japanese porn paysites are legit - IdolBucks isn't one of them.

but anyway since I can't be 100% sure I will do the right thing and let IdolBucks post a scanned copy of any legal licensing contract with any of these studios whose videos I see on your tours so you can clear your good name - Alice Japan, S1 No. 1 Style, Max-A, h.m.p - if you can do that I'll send you or a charity of your choice $100 via Paypal.

Mutt · 06-23-2010, 05:12 AM

my favorite JAV star Yuma Asami

BestXXXPorn · 06-23-2010, 06:25 AM

Technically it's a giant gray area...

Content licensed in Japan does not have a US license therefor it can be used without fear of prosecution...

It's the reason why Japanese animation gets fan subbed and released in the US. However as soon as a US company actually licenses that content... you'll get a C&D...

shunga · 06-23-2010, 06:37 AM

They are shameless thieves. My partners have had repeated issues with them. Another company had to shut a site down because IB were all over their content whenever they released it. They're also shameless about ripping picture content. CCbill have had a bunch of reports but still process for them. IB are nothing but shameless thieves pumping out infringing sites, with no 2257.

Barefootsies · 06-23-2010, 06:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BestXXXPorn

Technically it's a giant gray area...

Content licensed in Japan does not have a US license therefor it can be used without fear of prosecution...

It's the reason why Japanese animation gets fan subbed and released in the US. However as soon as a US company actually licenses that content... you'll get a C&D...

"Connorson, you smart cookie for Gaijin!"

Mutt · 06-23-2010, 06:47 AM

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Originally Posted by idolbucks

We do have licenses for all our content. We work with many content providers and studios. If you have any questions you can contact us here.

come back here thief.

Pics Traffic · 06-23-2010, 06:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HEAT

Many Japanese paysites use stolen content from Japan-based domestic AV-idol sites.

http://www.graphis.ne.jp
This is the original source that idolbucks and many others have an eye on. They just crop the watermark at original pictures then make their own FHGs and members content.

Proof:
the original picture

cropped picture Idolbucks using

http://www.idols69.net/pictures/689-Yui-Seto/index.html

Looks cropped to me.
Did you have that one licensed?

avrevenue · 06-23-2010, 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by webgurl

mine are licensed , I buy from direct from the studios I even have the 2257 model
release , lots of time you can tell if they are legit or not when you have
the matching videos + photosets (only the studios have full sets and access to this)
The license is expensive though it's almost the same price as shooting exclusive scenes
here via their non-exclusive dvd content .

at avrevenue, we also have only licensed studio which are : Tora Tora Tora, Kamikaze, Jspot and some AV Box.
Agree with Liz, The license is very expensive compare to US Dvds and recent content came with the matching videos + photosets

LickMyBalls · 06-23-2010, 07:43 AM

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Originally Posted by idolbucks

We do have licenses for all our content. We work with many content providers and studios. If you have any questions you can contact us here.

Working on this,

Marcus Aurelius · 06-23-2010, 08:59 AM

Idolbucks sell like crap.

neonlights · 06-23-2010, 11:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HEAT

Many Japanese paysites use stolen content from Japan-based domestic AV-idol sites.

http://www.graphis.ne.jp
This is the original source that idolbucks and many others have an eye on. They just crop the watermark at original pictures then make their own FHGs and members content.

Proof:
the original picture

cropped picture Idolbucks using

http://www.idols69.net/pictures/689-Yui-Seto/index.html

really graphis ? so they are not licensing ? so they can't do anything about this ?

so which studios license and which don't ? how can you tell ?

neonlights · 06-23-2010, 11:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by idolbucks

We do have licenses for all our content. We work with many content providers and studios. If you have any questions you can contact us here.

thanks for the clarification.

CamJack · 06-23-2010, 11:50 AM

How can one tell the difference either way?

Shoplifter · 06-23-2010, 11:55 AM

Bumping this for the lulz.

shunga · 06-23-2010, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by neonlights

thanks for the clarification.

They're thieves. Fact. You can't expect an honest answer from them.

neonlights · 06-23-2010, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by geoGUERILLA

How can one tell the difference either way?

then again what's the likelihood these paysites are gonna get lawyered? where is the 2257 when it's just jacking shit off the web ? Who is going to ask for that 2257 in what possible scenario, I can't think of any unless the site hovers around obscene? are you telling me that why only a letter from the attorney general but how likely is that ?

so in the end 2257 only applies to North American shit ?

06-22-2010, 03:36 PM	#1
neonlights So Fucking Banned Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 464	idolbucks unlicensed Japanese content ? picking up from https://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=974219 someone mentioned idolbucks like many other Japanese paysites are using unlicensed JAV content. is this true ?

06-22-2010, 04:56 PM	#4
crazytrini85 Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Over there. Posts: 817	Most of the Japanese sites use illegal content, just like the GF sites. Very few have a license to use Japanese content. It doesn't matter though because they can get billing and all of you will still push them even if it is stolen content. __________________ These are my top converting sponsors.

06-22-2010, 06:24 PM	#11
Noe Confirmed User Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 1,082	Idol Bucks has legally licensed Japanese content from my company, www.xxxcontentdirect.com. In my dealings with idolbucks, I've seen nothing but professsionalism from them. If anything they put more time and effort into verifying the rights we brokered than 95% of our clientle..which to me is even that more surprising because they're noobies. __________________ www.xxxcontentdirect.com www.extremefeeds.com ICQ: 169980934 [email protected]

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06-22-2010, 03:45 PM	#2
area51 - BANNED FOR LIFE So Fucking Banned Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 3,164	fuck off.

06-22-2010, 06:03 PM	#9
Pics Traffic Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Europe Posts: 3,055	I guess its not. Nobody from Idol Bucks wants to thow in 2 cents?

06-22-2010, 06:19 PM	#10
neonlights So Fucking Banned Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 464	I emailed [email protected] but it says could not send to the address.... I am kind of shocked because I have also been promoting asiamoviepass.com.... could they also be using unlicensed shit ? Why are rest of us paying for content ? Is it because Japanese companies can't do shit against american distributors jacking their shit and putting in their paysite ?

06-22-2010, 06:32 PM	#14
Agent 488 Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 22,511	welcome to the internet dork.

06-22-2010, 08:04 PM	#20
stickyfingerz Doin fine Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 24,984	Ahh makes perfect sense now. DoriDori suuuuuueeee priiiizzzee

06-22-2010, 10:52 PM	#23
webgurl Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Clouds with Carebears Posts: 7,954	mine are licensed , I buy from direct from the studios I even have the 2257 model release , lots of time you can tell if they are legit or not when you have the matching videos + photosets (only the studios have full sets and access to this) The license is expensive though it's almost the same price as shooting exclusive scenes here via their non-exclusive dvd content .

06-23-2010, 01:47 AM	#29
NickB. Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 8,855	nipporn.com = fully licensed at triplexcash.com Hit me up if you need anything special besides getting paid on time and solid pps

06-23-2010, 02:49 AM	#30
HEAT Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 2,255	Many Japanese paysites use stolen content from Japan-based domestic AV-idol sites. http://www.graphis.ne.jp This is the original source that idolbucks and many others have an eye on. They just crop the watermark at original pictures then make their own FHGs and members content. Proof: the original picture cropped picture Idolbucks using http://www.idols69.net/pictures/689-Yui-Seto/index.html __________________ 254-282-542

06-23-2010, 03:16 AM	#31
jaawhores Registered User Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 23	Can't tell exactly, but i am working with them for a long time and never had problems, they always pay in time, even this time, when webmaster checks had problems they paid to me without any delays. About content i think they had license because they simple can't stay on the market for so long time without it.

06-23-2010, 04:15 AM	#32
idolbucks Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 914	We do have licenses for all our content. We work with many content providers and studios. If you have any questions you can contact us here.

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CHARGER Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Somewhere between hell and heaven Posts: 551	Who really cares ? any of those picts belongs to anyone here ? no ! correct? people is getting paid here on time so why the drama ? Haters we cant be without em __________________ 592577093<---- icq me.... LET THE PLAYA PLAY

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Mutt Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 34,431	you can also tell who isn't legit by the sheer amount of content they have - like ActionJav.com and 50 others like it. I've joined a few, photo content taken direct from the studios' own .jp paysites. The DVD's can be bought cheap from sites like Asian Screens who have no rights to be selling them. i can tell which Japanese porn paysites are legit - IdolBucks isn't one of them. but anyway since I can't be 100% sure I will do the right thing and let IdolBucks post a scanned copy of any legal licensing contract with any of these studios whose videos I see on your tours so you can clear your good name - Alice Japan, S1 No. 1 Style, Max-A, h.m.p - if you can do that I'll send you or a charity of your choice $100 via Paypal. __________________ I moved my sites to Vacares Hosting. I've saved money, my hair is thicker, lost some weight too! Thanks Sly!

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06-23-2010, 06:25 AM	#37
BestXXXPorn Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Asheville, NC Posts: 2,277	Technically it's a giant gray area... Content licensed in Japan does not have a US license therefor it can be used without fear of prosecution... It's the reason why Japanese animation gets fan subbed and released in the US. However as soon as a US company actually licenses that content... you'll get a C&D... __________________ ICQ: 258-202-811 \| Email: eric{at}bestxxxporn.com

06-23-2010, 06:37 AM	#38
shunga Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Loveland Posts: 994	They are shameless thieves. My partners have had repeated issues with them. Another company had to shut a site down because IB were all over their content whenever they released it. They're also shameless about ripping picture content. CCbill have had a bunch of reports but still process for them. IB are nothing but shameless thieves pumping out infringing sites, with no 2257. __________________ Clockwork Cash - ICQ: 355-26-288 / Email: admin AT clockworkcash DOT com Asian Paysites : Exclusive Content : NATS or CCBill Thai Cuties : Shave Asians : JAVondemand

06-23-2010, 08:59 AM	#44
Marcus Aurelius No Refunds Issued. Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 14,809	Idolbucks sell like crap.

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06-23-2010, 11:55 AM	#48
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