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Old 07-02-2010, 11:55 AM   #1
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Schwarzenegger orders min wage for state workers

The Terminator says most state employees will be paid the federal minimum of $7.25 per hour for the July pay period.

I'm sure that won't fuck up to many peoples household budgets.

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7.25$ is better then 0.00$
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Temporarily and they get their money back as soon as the budget is worked out. Will definitely make for a tight July, but they'll still be getting their money.
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I'm sure that won't fuck up to many peoples household budgets.
And it won't, if they rebudget their expenses and cut out on unnecessary crap.
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Great, as if government employees aren't useless enough, now they are making less money and will give a shit even less than they already do...if that's possible
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Great, as if government employees aren't useless enough, now they are making less money and will give a shit even less than they already do...if that's possible
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Great, as if government employees aren't useless enough, now they are making less money and will give a shit even less than they already do...if that's possible
He could just lay them all off and hire everyone new and hungry from the private sector with more realistic wages and benefits. That would suck some eggs.
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I have been watching the news on this and its funny when the Governor had those 2 mandatory days a month off with out pay for state workers, in order to keep everyone employed. Then the employees unions sue and got it reversed. As a result, a lot of workers got layed off. Some of these unions are so genius.


Its funny how they are still trying to argue more money when there isn't any. Treat it like a business and fire people till the budget makes sense.
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The Terminator says most state employees will be paid the federal minimum of $7.25 per hour for the July pay period.

I'm sure that won't fuck up to many peoples household budgets.

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I have been watching the news on this and its funny when the Governor had those 2 mandatory days a month off with out pay for state workers, in order to keep everyone employed. Then the employees unions sue and got it reversed. As a result, a lot of workers got layed off. Some of these unions are so genius.


Its funny how they are still trying to argue more money when there isn't any. Treat it like a business and fire people till the budget makes sense.
They can either lay people off and preserve wages, or they can lower wages and preserve jobs. You can't have both.
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I said that incorrectly. You can't save both. Unless you add money.
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he terminated their wages
If he terminated their wages, they wouldn't be recouping the money back. They are.
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dude is insane take the illegals off the system would help alot.
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The illegals are public workers? That would be quite a calamity but I somehow doubt it.
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Yep. My wife is gonna take the hit too. She's with the state.

California is goin in the shitter.

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The illegals are public workers? That would be quite a calamity but I somehow doubt it.
i mean welfare,medical, illegals working in the state and not paying back. the government in all these states in the southwest have been "letting it slide" they have been standing out side home depots for decades
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Might be time to start "tipping" them like they do in 3rd world countries. The illegals would feel more at home that way too.
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Might be time to start "tipping" them like they do in 3rd world countries. The illegals would feel more at home that way too.
you beat me too it...

yeah, roll up to the DMV with a crisp $20 and head to the front of the line..

what worker making minimum wage isnt going to hook you up...





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I have an ex that works for the state, so I'm ok with this
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im guessing u dont have kids with her.
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If he terminated their wages, they wouldn't be recouping the money back. They are.
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looks like there are problems with money printing...
maybe they are out of ink or paper, or something....
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It did. It took you pointing it out for me to realize.
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If they stopped paying for all the benefits illegal aliens receive CA may not even have a budget issue.
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and has a decent gov. & a decent lower wage...
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I have been watching the news on this and its funny when the Governor had those 2 mandatory days a month off with out pay for state workers, in order to keep everyone employed. Then the employees unions sue and got it reversed. As a result, a lot of workers got layed off. Some of these unions are so genius.


Its funny how they are still trying to argue more money when there isn't any. Treat it like a business and fire people till the budget makes sense.
It initially was 2 days..but it has been 3 days for the past year or two and is still currently 3 days.
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He could just lay them all off and hire everyone new and hungry from the private sector with more realistic wages and benefits. That would suck some eggs.
Pathfinder's oldest daughter was hired from the private sector. When she was first hired by the State it was in the health field and required a full degree and experience in that field...which she had both. She went on to get a Master Degree in Public Health and appied for another position with the State that required a Master Degree in Public Health...and eventually was placed in her current position. Her current pay is around $70,000 per year minus the 3 mandantory days off per month. In order to be put into her current position she has spent 9 years in college/internship/training (her current position has a two year learning curve) and and about six years prior job experience...in the health field.

So yeah she could easily be replaced with somebody off the street that is hungry and willing to work with more realistic wages...now couldn't she.
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Pathfinder's oldest daughter was hired from the private sector. When she was first hired by the State it was in the health field and required a full degree and experience in that field...which she had both. She went on to get a Master Degree in Public Health and appied for another position with the State that required a Master Degree in Public Health...and eventually was placed in her current position. Her current pay is around $70,000 per year minus the 3 mandantory days off per month. In order to be put into her current position she has spent 9 years in college/internship/training (her current position has a two year learning curve) and and about six years prior job experience...in the health field.

So yeah she could easily be replaced with somebody off the street that is hungry and willing to work with more realistic wages...now couldn't she.
Your daughter isn't the average public sector employee, now is she?

My response was in jest. I don't propose that actually happen.
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Your daughter isn't the average public sector employee, now is she?

My response was in jest. I don't propose that actually happen.
Not my daughter...I do not have any children (and will never have any)...but I would assume that people in the health care field would have greater requirements than some State employees...if that is what you mean.
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Tack on $65,000 X 250,000 state workers... and California has a big cash outflow problem.

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i've worked in the structural steel biz for 5 years before i jumped into this shit. i still have family and friends in the biz. ive seen with my own eyes how california builds new schools all the time. with ridiculously expensive shit thats completely unnecessary. big radius fucking globes filled with glass, his and her gyms (yes two separate gyms for boys and girls is becoming a california standard for high schools), stainless steel handrails everywhere, etc etc etc... doesn't sound like much to the average joe but unless you've actually dealt with the shit were talking hundreds of thousands of dollars (per school) in man hours in fabrication, man hours fixing the shit with RFI's by the project managers, detailers, architects, and erectors etc, etc.... not to mention the countless hours we pay for fucking idiot inspectors that don't do dick but sleep in their car but are mandatory to check all schools with a fine tooth comb. (LOL)

then you drive downtown and watch as the city builds brick center dividers in the street for downtown to make it more pretty, etc, etc...

then they cut the state workers wages and shit? lolol this state is a fucking joke.

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State workers are some of the most obnoxious people you can come across (not everyone of course because I don't want to paint everyone as such) but a good majority of them are cocky rude bastards so good for Arnie for doing it. One more reason why I like the Terminator for our great state
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Old 07-02-2010, 09:38 PM   #42
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How much of a decrease is it?
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Old 07-03-2010, 04:31 AM   #43
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The Terminator says most state employees will be paid the federal minimum of $7.25 per hour for the July pay period.

I'm sure that won't fuck up to many peoples household budgets.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100702/...t_minimum_wage


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If he made that permanent then it would actually save California from disaster.
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Old 07-03-2010, 08:14 AM   #46
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I think a minimum wage is reasonable.
Food costs money.
Starving employees are not good employees.
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Old 07-03-2010, 09:20 AM   #48
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State workers are a drain on any economy. they just create bullshit jobs that for most of the time take 0 skill and just drain on the private sector.

all that happens is the govt creates more "jobs" to inflate the unemployment numbers while in turn taxing the private sector to pay for these "jobs". then the private sector stops hiring people because the govt makes a climate that is less and less favorable towards business. in turn getting rid of REAL JOBS that make REAL MONEY that drive the economy.

big govt is always BAD NEWS. but this is what the "people" wanted. the more and more you allow govt to get away with meddling in private lives the more they are going to do so.
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To give you guys an idea about state workers, my EX makes about 55k a year, has no high school diploma or GED and oversees the licenses of doctors in California, doesn't that sound like responsible government practices?
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Need to fire people until it makes sense. State employees need to feel that if they dont perform to a higher standard, that they can be fired. It works in the private sector that way. The biggest problem with state employees is that they all feel entitled and know they can do what ever and not get fired. Thats one of the big problems right there.


I know for a fact that a brighter person can do the work of 2 or 3 of these "time wasters". Let Wall Mart and McDonalds hire the slow people and handicapped. We need brighter people working for the state doing multiple jobs. If people want to eat and feed their families, make sacrifices today or get fired tomorrow.




Where you really see it is at the DMV. Those people are so fucking slow and so lazy. You see DMV workers at the DMV just standing around talking to other workers when their are people waiting over an hour+ waiting to pay a stupid amount of money for car registration, that pays their salaries.


Same fucking DMV job at the AAA has lass than a ten min. wait. Very fast, very polite and very efficient. You know why?? Because the people at AAA work for AAA and not the DMV(state). If they dont perform to a particular standard at AAA, they get fired. Its that simple.


I will pay the $60 yearly fee at AAA to never ever, wait in a DMV line!! Yes if you did not know, AAA has DMV services inside their offices. The best thing its ran by AAA and not the DMV(state).
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