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GAMEFINEST · 10-20-2010, 09:02 PM

i only fuck with mojo host

Brad Mitchell · 10-20-2010, 10:15 PM

With all due respect to everyone that is proposing other hosts with virtual product offerings.. I would simply state that with the exception of Liquid Web which was plugged by cranky pants, nearly all of the remaining companies plugged in this thread aren't even 10% the size (revenue, employees, etc) and the next "largest" competitors with a virtual host product are at most 25% the size. Bigger isn't better and that's not my point - we can all agree on that. However, Mike's client count is 10 fold everyone else in this thread and when it comes to serving a volume of thousands of customers across a multitude of product lines... I'm just saying, statistics and probabilities - it's not possible to please everyone, especially in scale. Webair isn't going anywhere, that's for sure. There are a few decent other options in this thread. For some people, they're best off picking a host that is a small shop or one man show as a match for their needs with either dedicated or virtual hosting and there is no shame in that.

...I don't sell Virtual & VPS... so don't ask! Cheers

Keep on keepin' on -Joe Dirt

anexsia · 10-20-2010, 11:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brad Mitchell

With all due respect to everyone that is proposing other hosts with virtual product offerings.. I would simply state that with the exception of Liquid Web which was plugged by cranky pants, nearly all of the remaining companies plugged in this thread aren't even 10% the size (revenue, employees, etc) and the next "largest" competitors with a virtual host product are at most 25% the size. Bigger isn't better and that's not my point - we can all agree on that. However, Mike's client count is 10 fold everyone else in this thread and when it comes to serving a volume of thousands of customers across a multitude of product lines... I'm just saying, statistics and probabilities - it's not possible to please everyone, especially in scale. Webair isn't going anywhere, that's for sure. There are a few decent other options in this thread. For some people, they're best off picking a host that is a small shop or one man show as a match for their needs with either dedicated or virtual hosting and there is no shame in that.

...I don't sell Virtual & VPS... so don't ask! Cheers

Keep on keepin' on -Joe Dirt

If I needed dedicated I would for sure go with your company...however there are plenty of big hosts in the sea that DO offer great support for ALL of their offerings and Web Air just seems like they do not.

stocktrader23 · 10-20-2010, 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Brad Mitchell

With all due respect to everyone that is proposing other hosts with virtual product offerings.. I would simply state that with the exception of Liquid Web which was plugged by cranky pants, nearly all of the remaining companies plugged in this thread aren't even 10% the size (revenue, employees, etc) and the next "largest" competitors with a virtual host product are at most 25% the size. Bigger isn't better and that's not my point - we can all agree on that. However, Mike's client count is 10 fold everyone else in this thread and when it comes to serving a volume of thousands of customers across a multitude of product lines... I'm just saying, statistics and probabilities - it's not possible to please everyone, especially in scale. Webair isn't going anywhere, that's for sure. There are a few decent other options in this thread. For some people, they're best off picking a host that is a small shop or one man show as a match for their needs with either dedicated or virtual hosting and there is no shame in that.

...I don't sell Virtual & VPS... so don't ask! Cheers

Keep on keepin' on -Joe Dirt

Always excuses for shit ass customer service in this industry. I have a $10 a month virtual at HostGator and have been using them for years. Instant support for most problems, quick ticket responses for the rest. Oh, and if you get a dedicated and sell off 100 hosting accounts they'll answer their live support for your customers as well, all they ask is for your domain and password.

I don't know exactly what it is about those in this industry blowing off 'the mainstream' but HostGator takes adult. For $15 a month on a virtual you get a free SSL cert and dedicated IP as well.

Show me one 'adult' host that has the same support, uptime and all around good reputation on a cheap ass virtual account. I've used a dozen of them over the years and they all fucking sucked compared to HG. The funny part is that they pay out the ass for referrals so you'd think you'd see them spammed everywhere here but you don't.

This industry can be so weird.

xxweekxx · 10-21-2010, 12:11 AM

good point.. hostgator is cheap as fuck.. when i needed support it was super fast.. cheap doesnt always mean crappy support..

minicivan · 10-21-2010, 06:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brad Mitchell

With all due respect to everyone that is proposing other hosts with virtual product offerings.. I would simply state that with the exception of Liquid Web which was plugged by cranky pants, nearly all of the remaining companies plugged in this thread aren't even 10% the size (revenue, employees, etc) and the next "largest" competitors with a virtual host product are at most 25% the size. Bigger isn't better and that's not my point - we can all agree on that. However, Mike's client count is 10 fold everyone else in this thread and when it comes to serving a volume of thousands of customers across a multitude of product lines... I'm just saying, statistics and probabilities - it's not possible to please everyone, especially in scale. Webair isn't going anywhere, that's for sure. There are a few decent other options in this thread. For some people, they're best off picking a host that is a small shop or one man show as a match for their needs with either dedicated or virtual hosting and there is no shame in that.

...I don't sell Virtual & VPS... so don't ask! Cheers

Keep on keepin' on -Joe Dirt

Bad customer service is bad customer service. End of story. They don't have problems with probability, they have problems answering support tickets and its not random chance, its actually very consistent.
;)

Davy · 10-21-2010, 06:27 AM

Make sure to compare prices with different hosts. Just sayin'...

SmokeyTheBear · 10-21-2010, 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by epitome

I've never understood the whole "if you want great support you need to go dedicated" bullshit.

$$$ you cant expect a host to spend 3 hours support a month on a virtual account , it cost more for the tech time than the profit, no host could run a business like that.

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Originally Posted by epitome

A customer is a customer is a customer and they should be treated the same no matter what.

bullshit , when i am paying $500/month for hosting i want better support , i dont want support tied up fiddling with $25/month sites

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Originally Posted by epitome

That shitty little virtual customer today could easily be a big customer tomorrow.

and when that happens they will get better support .

moeloubani · 10-21-2010, 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

$$$ you cant expect a host to spend 3 hours support a month on a virtual account , it cost more for the tech time than the profit, no host could run a business like that.

bullshit , when i am paying $500/month for hosting i want better support , i dont want support tied up fiddling with $25/month sites

and when that happens they will get better support .

Barefootsies · 10-21-2010, 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

$$$ you cant expect a host to spend 3 hours support a month on a virtual account , it cost more for the tech time than the profit, no host could run a business like that.

bullshit , when i am paying $500/month for hosting i want better support , i dont want support tied up fiddling with $25/month sites

and when that happens they will get better support .

Well said fine sire.

stocktrader23 · 10-21-2010, 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

$$$ you cant expect a host to spend 3 hours support a month on a virtual account , it cost more for the tech time than the profit, no host could run a business like that.

bullshit , when i am paying $500/month for hosting i want better support , i dont want support tied up fiddling with $25/month sites

and when that happens they will get better support .

You are paying for the server and bandwidth, support is equal across all accounts at any decent host. Your $500 a month is FUCK ALL compared to someone elses $50,000 per month. So you want the same support at a 100th of the price?

See how stupid this line of thought is.

WebairGerard · 10-21-2010, 08:51 AM

Billy I called to speak with you regarding this and left you a voice mail. Please give me a call at your earliest convenience so I can ensure everything is taken care of. Thank you.

Cyandin · 10-21-2010, 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by billyde

Instead of going into details... I'll just say that, NO, the problem was not fixed. Instead, my blog was wiped out by webair during the transition from virtual to dedicated server months after I was told it was already moved.

If anyone from Webair disagrees... I will post the chat & emails from the retarded Webair tech support.

Bottom line... webair is a total shitbag company!

Jesus....

Machete_ · 10-21-2010, 08:53 AM

Webair has the worst support in the entire hosting industry.

Barefootsies · 10-21-2010, 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by stocktrader23

I have a $10 a month virtual at HostGator

That explains a lot.

18teens · 10-21-2010, 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Machete_

Webair has the worst support in the entire hosting industry.

Yes they do and what amazes me is the number of people who think it's okay for virtual customers to receive shitty support.

AliGbone · 10-21-2010, 09:13 AM

They kick ass for me! Any times i need a tech i hit live person or call up easy skeezy. I think it's smart of dem to only offer ticket support for virtuals gives em time for more important clients!

Keep up da good work webair!

2intense · 10-21-2010, 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by billyde

................retarded Webair tech support.

Bottom line... webair is a total shitbag company!

i agree with you

OneWhoKnows · 10-21-2010, 09:25 AM

Well, when I need anything or have a prob I hit up live support and someone takes care of me immediately. I only had probs once with some really bad tech on live support and once with their billing department - so I hit up Gerard and probs were fixed plus I got some bonus.

Can't argue about Webair's support, but then again I've got a dedicated server.

SmokeyTheBear · 10-21-2010, 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by stocktrader23

You are paying for the server and bandwidth, support is equal across all accounts at any decent host.

no offense but, no it isn't.

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Originally Posted by stocktrader23

Your $500 a month is FUCK ALL compared to someone elses $50,000 per month.

exactly , i dont expect 50k/month support if i am paying $500/month. for 50k i expect a hardline to the host's bedroom so i can wake him up.

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Originally Posted by stocktrader23

See how stupid this line of thought is.

it is not stupid at all, you are only kidding yourself if you think you get the same support in almost ANYTHING in life for less $$

Spend big $$ you get big support , spend small $ you get small support. Thats life.

ask any virtual host to install something like ffmpeg and hand mod it with certain codecs and plugins. very unlikely. Now get a dedicated box , spend big $ and ask the same question, done and done.

go to a hotel , rent a budget room and ask for some beef jerky at midnight.. you wont get it. Now go rent the presidential suite and ask for beef jerky at midnight , BLAM beef jerky..

go to a bank deposit $10 and ask if the manager of the bank will come to your house to discuss a loan. now deposit 10 million and ask the same question, voila bank manager at your door.

AliGbone · 10-21-2010, 09:34 AM

Biggest, best, period. Im my opinion no one compares and i been wit am all!

Trys to pick up the phone instead of waiting on a ticket! You will never have an issue! Like me!

greg80 · 10-21-2010, 09:50 AM

Have 3 servers at Webair, support was always lightning fast for me

Klen · 10-21-2010, 11:39 AM

Actually,i found it weird how dedicated server customers are more important for certain companies,when i was talking with ditlev,ceo of uk2group(100tb and other crap),he said how he more preffer shared customers beacuse then he make more money.But yes managing shared customer is much heavier then dedicated.

Barefootsies · 10-21-2010, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by KlenTelaris

Actually,i found it weird how dedicated server customers are more important for certain companies,when i was talking with ditlev,ceo of uk2group(100tb and other crap),he said how he more preffer shared customers beacuse then he make more money.But yes managing shared customer is much heavier then dedicated.

That depends on how you decide to manage your resources.

I find that most companies who prefer the virtual/shared environment for running their web hosting business simply do not factor in true costs of support in regards to handling those clients. It will typically take additional support staff to handled 400 shared/virtual clients then it would for 400 dedicated servers. At least if you want to provide the same level of support in regards to response and resolution times.

Furthermore, it comes down to your business model. With a shared environment, depending on the box, you could make $600-1200+ on that single box in profit. Versus $100-300.00 (depending on the company) for a single dedicated, one client, server.

The point being, you need less staff for one over the other, which will cost more, and eat away your "profits" of virtual clients. There are a lot of other factors that go into either one of these business models, as nothing is completely clear cut as a few paragraphs on a message board.

myneid · 10-21-2010, 12:50 PM

I've always had top knotch support with webair and they bend over backwards to make people happy.
If you are really worried about getting immediate and personal support, put a contract technical person on retainer.
Often i am the liaison between a client and webair since i am in charge of the technical stuff.

nico-t · 10-21-2010, 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by xxweekxx

thread #500,000 about webair sucking.

exactly

but you gotta love the monthly webair bro sucking up threads like "wooohoooo webair is great! support helped me with this and that!!" like its exceptional when support is just doing their job. Well i guess with webair it is

stocktrader23 · 10-21-2010, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Barefootsies

That explains a lot.

Don't start with me dude, seriously.

Machete_ · 10-21-2010, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by AliGbone

Biggest, best, period. Im my opinion no one compares and i been wit am all!

Trys to pick up the phone instead of waiting on a ticket! You will never have an issue! Like me!

You do realize you are linking traffic stats of the hosts index pages?

It is in no way indication of how big the host is.

Dumbass.

tonyparra · 10-21-2010, 07:08 PM

I have a vps with webair and i have always been able to get in contact with someone.

BVF · 10-21-2010, 07:21 PM

Webair keeps me up....And as long as MY shit stays up, I couldn't give two fucks about you.

tonyparra · 10-22-2010, 07:42 AM

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Originally Posted by BVF

Webair keeps me up....And as long as MY shit stays up, I couldn't give two fucks about you.

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Brad Mitchell Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Southfield, MI Posts: 9,734	With all due respect to everyone that is proposing other hosts with virtual product offerings.. I would simply state that with the exception of Liquid Web which was plugged by cranky pants, nearly all of the remaining companies plugged in this thread aren't even 10% the size (revenue, employees, etc) and the next "largest" competitors with a virtual host product are at most 25% the size. Bigger isn't better and that's not my point - we can all agree on that. However, Mike's client count is 10 fold everyone else in this thread and when it comes to serving a volume of thousands of customers across a multitude of product lines... I'm just saying, statistics and probabilities - it's not possible to please everyone, especially in scale. Webair isn't going anywhere, that's for sure. There are a few decent other options in this thread. For some people, they're best off picking a host that is a small shop or one man show as a match for their needs with either dedicated or virtual hosting and there is no shame in that. ...I don't sell Virtual & VPS... so don't ask! Cheers Keep on keepin' on -Joe Dirt __________________ President at MojoHost \| brad at mojohost dot com \| Skype MojoHostBrad 69 industry awards for hosting and professional excellence since 1999

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