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JenC · 07-13-2010, 07:10 AM

I got this from a sponsor yesterday and I really don't know what to do. They're one of my main sponsors. It's not MY fault that their sites don't retain. What should I do?

"Guys at billing told me there's a little issue with your traffic, apparently the thing is that you make a lot of sales but only trials. As none of those trials are actually converting into monthly subscriptions XXXXX is losing money. Would you mind switching your linkcodes to 60% revshare until we can find a better solution for this issue?"

I can almost smell the shave machine firing up already.

Agent 488 · 07-13-2010, 07:12 AM

drop them. what you going to get? fifty cents per sale?

CIVMatt · 07-13-2010, 07:20 AM

Exactly... why even give it another thought

JenC · 07-13-2010, 07:22 AM

Well because like I said they are one of my fave sponsors and I make a lot of money with them. I hate trying out new sponsors to find one that actually works. Plus the little issue of changing hundreds of link codes.

Oh well. I'll figure something out. Thanks for your feedback.

Grapesoda · 07-13-2010, 07:27 AM

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Originally Posted by JenC

Well because like I said they are one of my fave sponsors and I make a lot of money with them. I hate trying out new sponsors to find one that actually works. Plus the little issue of changing hundreds of link codes.

Oh well. I'll figure something out. Thanks for your feedback.

apparently that aren't making a lot of money with you though

BlackCrayon · 07-13-2010, 07:28 AM

i think its funny they blame your traffic. if they sign up to a trial, its the sponsors job to convert it unless you use misleading advertising offering something the sponsor doesn't have..

tranza · 07-13-2010, 07:31 AM

Well, I do value that they tried to contact you, to reach a solution.

But I guess I agree with Matt and Agent 488, I'd drop them.

erooup · 07-13-2010, 07:34 AM

Ask them to make a better membersection so the sales you make, stays for more than 5 seconds

Raf1 · 07-13-2010, 07:37 AM

I agree with what the others have said here. Drop them.

seeandsee · 07-13-2010, 08:04 AM

maybe it's just fault of member area that is not big quality

Chosen · 07-13-2010, 12:06 PM

Yeah members area probably sucks big time...

Caligari · 07-13-2010, 12:10 PM

yes "a little issue with your traffic" complete bollocks. if they sign up, its the sponsors job to convert.

drop em like a turd.

crazytrini85 · 07-13-2010, 12:17 PM

adapt or die

ruff · 07-13-2010, 12:23 PM

This is an early warning sign for you. You need to lose them before they rip you completely. Blaming your traffic because it doesn't rebill or move out of the trial to membership is desperation. Companies are dropping like flies around here. Closing out affiliates and generally just ripping webmasters off. This company is probably one of the next ones to crash.

IllTestYourGirls · 07-13-2010, 12:40 PM

Drop them. Im sure they are making money off the cross sales no?

fuzebox · 07-13-2010, 02:01 PM

Paying per signup is a hard thing to do. There is no reason for a sponsor to give you free money if your sales are not meeting their average retention.

Programs set their PPS rates based on their average earnings per member, and if you fall below that it is expected that they will switch you to revshare. Hell, it should be in the terms and conditions when you sign up.

The entitlement in this thread is alarming

ruff · 07-13-2010, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by fuzebox

Paying per signup is a hard thing to do. There is no reason for a sponsor to give you free money if your sales are not meeting their average retention.

Programs set their PPS rates based on their average earnings per member, and if you fall below that it is expected that they will switch you to revshare. Hell, it should be in the terms and conditions when you sign up.

The entitlement in this thread is alarming

You're kidding right? Is there two kinds of traffic out there? The first kind joins and rebills over and over and the second kind just takes the trial and leaves? Tell me how to get the first kind. These sites that pay $300 a sign up, do you honestly think that is on the level? So far what I've seen is sponsors pretty much do whatever they want with impunity. They can change the terms and conditions, change your pps to revshare after you have their links spread to kingdom come or just steal your money. Entitlement in porn? hahahahahahahaha

JenC · 07-14-2010, 06:28 AM

When I told them that I wasn't going to change to revshare they said they would "handle it in another way".....meaning I think they're gonna shave the crap out of my sales.

Agent 488 · 07-14-2010, 06:30 AM

create a new account. grab pps links codes. swap links.

JenC · 07-14-2010, 06:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Agent 488

create a new account. grab pps links codes. swap links.

LongBG · 07-14-2010, 07:00 AM

Times are tough, but it is not your job to retain the members.

I would let them know that and tell them to fix their members areas to keep members
happy. Also let them know that if they switch your account they will not make anything
on you at all. Because you will switch sponsors.

07-13-2010, 07:10 AM	#1
JenC Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: New England Posts: 515	Who's fault is this? I got this from a sponsor yesterday and I really don't know what to do. They're one of my main sponsors. It's not MY fault that their sites don't retain. What should I do? "Guys at billing told me there's a little issue with your traffic, apparently the thing is that you make a lot of sales but only trials. As none of those trials are actually converting into monthly subscriptions XXXXX is losing money. Would you mind switching your linkcodes to 60% revshare until we can find a better solution for this issue?" I can almost smell the shave machine firing up already.

07-13-2010, 07:20 AM	#3
CIVMatt Amateur Pimpin Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 13,075	Exactly... why even give it another thought __________________ Make easy money with Webcams

07-13-2010, 07:28 AM	#6
BlackCrayon Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Ottawa Posts: 19,631	i think its funny they blame your traffic. if they sign up to a trial, its the sponsors job to convert it unless you use misleading advertising offering something the sponsor doesn't have.. __________________ you don't know you're wearing a leash if you sit by the peg all day..

07-13-2010, 07:31 AM	#7
tranza ICQ: 197-556-237 Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: BRASIL !!! Posts: 57,559	Well, I do value that they tried to contact you, to reach a solution. But I guess I agree with Matt and Agent 488, I'd drop them. __________________ I'm just a newbie.

07-13-2010, 07:37 AM	#9
Raf1 Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Writer for hire :) Gallery descriptions, articles, blog posts etc. ICQ: 209 356 106 Posts: 12,117	I agree with what the others have said here. Drop them. __________________ 80% Revshare or 30$ PPS on $1 trials: 200 Niches = Vidz.com Galleries / FLVs / Embeds 3 & 5mins FLVs \| RSS & Tube Feeds \| Matching Thumbs \| FLV Browser & Exporter \| No Prechecked Xsales >> Mobile Redirection Script: mobile.vidz.com also paying 80% net Lifetime << ICQ: 198-394-557

07-13-2010, 07:12 AM	#2
Agent 488 Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 22,511	drop them. what you going to get? fifty cents per sale?

07-13-2010, 07:22 AM	#4
JenC Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: New England Posts: 515	Well because like I said they are one of my fave sponsors and I make a lot of money with them. I hate trying out new sponsors to find one that actually works. Plus the little issue of changing hundreds of link codes. Oh well. I'll figure something out. Thanks for your feedback.

07-13-2010, 07:34 AM	#8
erooup Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 512	Ask them to make a better membersection so the sales you make, stays for more than 5 seconds

07-13-2010, 08:04 AM	#10
seeandsee Check SIG! Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Europe (Skype: gojkoas) Posts: 50,945	maybe it's just fault of member area that is not big quality __________________ BUY MY SIG - 50$/Year Contact here

07-13-2010, 12:06 PM	#11
Chosen VIPPay.com \| AdultWebSponsors.com Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 63,151	Yeah members area probably sucks big time...

07-13-2010, 12:10 PM	#12
Caligari Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: At The Mountains Of Madness Posts: 5,414	yes "a little issue with your traffic" complete bollocks. if they sign up, its the sponsors job to convert. drop em like a turd. __________________ ATTN Webmasters Cruel Bucks - LIVE Gonzo Does Not Pay ------------------------------------------------ Animal Rescue Click Here to Feed An Animal for Free

07-13-2010, 12:17 PM	#13
crazytrini85 Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Over there. Posts: 817	adapt or die __________________ These are my top converting sponsors.

07-13-2010, 12:23 PM	#14
ruff I have a plan B Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Seattle - Miami - St Kitts Posts: 5,501	This is an early warning sign for you. You need to lose them before they rip you completely. Blaming your traffic because it doesn't rebill or move out of the trial to membership is desperation. Companies are dropping like flies around here. Closing out affiliates and generally just ripping webmasters off. This company is probably one of the next ones to crash. __________________ CryptoFeeds

07-13-2010, 12:40 PM	#15
IllTestYourGirls Ah My Balls Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Under the gold leaf ICQ 388-454-421 Posts: 14,311	Drop them. Im sure they are making money off the cross sales no? __________________

07-13-2010, 02:01 PM	#16
fuzebox making it rain Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: seattle Posts: 22,102	Paying per signup is a hard thing to do. There is no reason for a sponsor to give you free money if your sales are not meeting their average retention. Programs set their PPS rates based on their average earnings per member, and if you fall below that it is expected that they will switch you to revshare. Hell, it should be in the terms and conditions when you sign up. The entitlement in this thread is alarming

07-14-2010, 06:28 AM	#18
JenC Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: New England Posts: 515	When I told them that I wasn't going to change to revshare they said they would "handle it in another way".....meaning I think they're gonna shave the crap out of my sales.

07-14-2010, 06:30 AM	#19
Agent 488 Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 22,511	create a new account. grab pps links codes. swap links.

07-14-2010, 07:00 AM	#21
LongBG Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Sesame Street Posts: 1,101	Times are tough, but it is not your job to retain the members. I would let them know that and tell them to fix their members areas to keep members happy. Also let them know that if they switch your account they will not make anything on you at all. Because you will switch sponsors. __________________ Contact me: [email protected]