Have you noticed how everything is better now that Obama is in charge.... :)

[sperbonzo]

So, Okay, you hated Bush..... But all the same things that he did are ok when Obama does them, right?

VERY funny quick (4 min) video.

[GrouchyAdmin]

Sssh you're gonna get noticed.

[Amputate Your Head]

At least Obama doesn't sound like a southern retarded boy every time he opens his mouth.

[IllTestYourGirls]

Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head

At least Obama doesn't sound like a southern retarded boy every time he opens his mouth.

I suppose that is a plus.

[Jakez]

i'm not going to act like I understand or know everything Obama is doing. But God himself couldn't turn around the downward spiral we've fell into in only 2 years.

[L-Pink]

I miss Nixon ........


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[maxxtro]

God bless that black man

[IllTestYourGirls]

Originally Posted by Jakez

i'm not going to act like I understand or know everything Obama is doing. But God himself couldn't turn around the downward spiral we've fell into in only 2 years.

Wrong. Study the first depression of the 1900s.

[justinsain]

Originally Posted by Jakez

i'm not going to act like I understand or know everything Obama is doing. But God himself couldn't turn around the downward spiral we've fell into in only 2 years.

So true

Watch as Obama goes two terms, manages to stop the tailspin and finally gets the country going in the right direction and the president that follows him will get all the credit and be treated as the savior.

[scarlettcontent]

LOL for the crazy happy days of summer, its now even worse than the Great Depression of the 30s! can only get worse before it gets better, will take time.

[epitome]

I am neutral on Obama right now.

I knew his promises were too big and he'd be pushed away as soon as he started barking but its looking like they've neutered him.

[stocktrader23]

Originally Posted by sperbonzo

So, Okay, you hated Bush..... But all the same things that he did are ok when Obama does them, right?

VERY funny quick (4 min) video.

The guy in the video is fucking retarded, please state your point here so my ears don't have to bleed. Also, I assume you are a conservative since "VERY funny" is as inaccurate description of this style of commentary as you can get.

[stocktrader23]

Originally Posted by epitome

I am neutral on Obama right now.

I knew his promises were too big and he'd be pushed away as soon as he started barking but its looking like they've neutered him.

Which promises? You aren't talking about these are you?

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/

[DaddyHalbucks]

Originally Posted by epitome

I am neutral on Obama right now.

I knew his promises were too big and he'd be pushed away as soon as he started barking but its looking like they've neutered him.

Huh?

Who neutered him?

The other 200 Obamas in Congress who went along with the Stimulus and tax and spend and Obamacare?

[IllTestYourGirls]

Originally Posted by stocktrader23

Which promises? You aren't talking about these are you?

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/

Secure the borders "in the works"



They are missing a lot of broken promises. Like bring our troops home. The deadline he set has long gone and passed.

[stocktrader23]

Originally Posted by IllTestYourGirls

Secure the borders "in the works"



They are missing a lot of broken promises. Like bring our troops home. The deadline he set has long gone and passed.

Dear moron, if you click that little 'more' button at the bottom they explain in detail why they rate each promise a certain way. I'll make it easier for you though.

"Immigration reform was a major component of President Obama's campaign platform. He promised to secure the border, crack down on employers who hire undocumented immigrants, and provide a path to citizenship for undocumented immigrants.

We reviewed the first promise in that list back in March 2009. At the time, we rated it In the Works, since the administration had announced that it was beefing up security on the border with Mexico. We wanted to see if there has been any movement on the promise since then.

The White House made our job a bit easier with a June 21, 2010 entry in its blog, which summarizes some of the major initiatives and accomplishments of the President's border security policy. It notes that the number of personnel assigned to Border Enforcement Security Task Forces has doubled over the past year and that the number of ICE intelligence analysts along the Southwest border has tripled. Thirteen additional cross-trained canine teams were also deployed to the region, according to the report.

President Obama also announced in May 2010 that he would deploy 1,200 national guard troops to help secure the border. Of those troops, 524 will be stationed in Arizona, which has made national headlines in recent months for its new immigration law, which Gov. Brewer signed back in April.

We contacted numerous border security experts and immigration groups to see what they thought of President Obama's border security programs.

"The efforts are a significant continuation of a more than 15 year effort to beef up the southwest border of the United States," said David Shirk, Director of the Trans-Border Institute at University of San Diego. Most of the other experts that we spoke with agreed. But Louis DeSipio from the University of California-Irvine called the policies "incremental," and argued that "the Obama efforts aren't dramatically different than the late Bush efforts." The one possible exception, DeSipio said, is the increased focus on the monitoring of southbound cargo. DeSipio said that increased focus was a partly a result of "growing complaints from Mexico about firearms going south".

We also wondered whether the new measures were effective at curbing illegal border crossings.

"Although opinions may differ, I do not see any of the immigration enforcement changes pursued by the Obama administration as having a long term impact on the undocumented immigrant population," Kevin Johnson, Dean of the University of California-Davis Law School and an immigration policy expert, wrote in an email. "Where the administration's enforcement efforts might prove to be -- but have not yet proven to be -- 'significant' is if they help convince members of Congress that the border is secure and it is time to reform the laws. Both Presidents Bush and Obama believed that they must appear willing to enforce the immigration laws to secure immigration reform. President Bush failed and President Obama has so far."

Just to be thorough, we also checked to see what's being done to beef up security on the U.S.-Canada border. We spoke with Christopher Sands, a U.S.-Canada relations expert at the Hudson Institute, a public policy think tank.

"Overall, I think that the Obama administration is doing well securing the US-Canadian border. They have continued the Bush administration's agenda of upgrading old and inadequate infrastructure, maintained the trusted traveler and shipper programs to keep trade flowing, taken advantage of technology -- particularly for remote areas-- and fostered close ties with Canadian customs, law enforcement and intelligence agencies," said Sands.

Still, the programs have their share of critics. Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., said that it would take 3,000 additional troops to secure Arizona alone. He proposed sending 6,000 National Guard troops to the border. Arizona Governor Jan Brewer is also pushing for more troops, along with seeking reimbursement for the state's cost of incarcerating illegal immigrants.

We initially considered rating this one Promise Kept, since the promise was to provide "additional personnel, infrastructure and technology on the border and at our ports of entry". Our research shows that Obama's accomplished that. Still, you'd expect additional security to make a meaningful dent in illegal border crossings and violence. The experts we spoke with told us that they've yet to see that happen. So for now, we're keeping this one In the Works."

[sperbonzo]

Originally Posted by stocktrader23

The guy in the video is fucking retarded, please state your point here so my ears don't have to bleed. Also, I assume you are a conservative since "VERY funny" is as inaccurate description of this style of commentary as you can get.

It must be difficult to go through life unable to listen to a 4 min video because you don't agree with the viewpoint.


bummer.


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[Tom_PM]

It's good for moderate progressives when the extremes beat each other into further irrelevance.

[stocktrader23]

Originally Posted by sperbonzo

It must be difficult to go through life unable to listen to a 4 min video because you don't agree with the viewpoint.


bummer.


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The viewpoint has nothing to do with it. I've never been able to tolerate smarmy, sarcastic idiots that think they are funny. You seem to find the video funny which tells me you are almost assuredly a conservative. Most peoples brains do not work like yours, thankfully. If you want to post your concerns or his in this thread I'm sure people would be happy to respond. This video is a hit piece that didn't say much at all by the time I hit the X. Not interested.

[Raf1]

one sided for sure, but you have to admit that Obama isn't doing all that great either...

[TeenCat]

gfy is much better now

[Amputate Your Head]

Originally Posted by TeenCat

gfy is much better now

Compared to what? Last week?

[BlackCrayon]

its easy to say that but impossible to know if the other guys would of been better or way worse.

[stocktrader23]

Originally Posted by Raf1

one sided for sure, but you have to admit that Obama isn't doing all that great either...

In what way? I'm honestly curious what you mean by this.

[Sly]

Originally Posted by IllTestYourGirls

Secure the borders "in the works"



They are missing a lot of broken promises. Like bring our troops home. The deadline he set has long gone and passed.

He didn't really break that promise. He did a lot of backpedaling and left open a lot of loopholes. I think after a while he realized it wasn't realistic and needed to cool off. However, most people did not pay attention to what else was being said and just heard "bring home our troops" and clung onto that. When in reality, his plan wasn't really any different than what Bush had planned.

Iraq is simmering down, which he said. Afghanistan is picking up, which he said.

[BFT3K]

Whether you like Obama or not, you should still visit these links...

http://www.FaceBook.com/ADangerousCult
http://www.Twitter.com/ADangerousCult

[IllTestYourGirls]

Originally Posted by Sly

He didn't really break that promise. He did a lot of backpedaling and left open a lot of loopholes. I think after a while he realized it wasn't realistic and needed to cool off. However, most people did not pay attention to what else was being said and just heard "bring home our troops" and clung onto that. When in reality, his plan wasn't really any different than what Bush had planned.

Iraq is simmering down, which he said. Afghanistan is picking up, which he said.

[sperbonzo]

Originally Posted by stocktrader23

The viewpoint has nothing to do with it. I've never been able to tolerate smarmy, sarcastic idiots that think they are funny. You seem to find the video funny which tells me you are almost assuredly a conservative. Most peoples brains do not work like yours, thankfully. If you want to post your concerns or his in this thread I'm sure people would be happy to respond. This video is a hit piece that didn't say much at all by the time I hit the X. Not interested.

The point was that the media condemned Bush for doing things, which, when the same things are now being done by Obama, are being either applauded or ignored.

The "hit" was much more about media coverage than about Bush or Obama....



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[DateDoc]

4 and out for Obama. Who will be the new president in 2012?

[Amputate Your Head]

Originally Posted by sperbonzo

The point was that the media condemned Bush for doing things, which, when the same things are now being done by Obama, are being either applauded or ignored.

The "hit" was much more about media coverage than about Bush or Obama....



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So, the "media" isn't condemning Obama every single day? Funny, it's all the right talks about.... constantly.

[Sly]

Originally Posted by IllTestYourGirls

Like I said, 2007. He backpedaled and changed. Every one of them does this. Trust me, I don't like Obama anymore than you do. But he did change what he said in regards to troops.

You could argue that one isn't strong enough if they are changing their statement. Or you could argue that one is naïve if they don't change their statement due to new circumstances.

Either way, there are better things to bash him about, LOL.

[sperbonzo]

Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head

So, the "media" isn't condemning Obama every single day? Funny, it's all the right talks about.... constantly.

True, but the point is that the same things that CNN, MSNBC, ABC, CBS, etc... were condemning Bush for, they just give Obama a pass on.....


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[IllTestYourGirls]

Originally Posted by Sly

Like I said, 2007. He backpedaled and changed. Every one of them does this. Trust me, I don't like Obama anymore than you do. But he did change what he said in regards to troops.

You could argue that one isn't strong enough if they are changing their statement. Or you could argue that one is naïve if they don't change their statement due to new circumstances.

Either way, there are better things to bash him about, LOL.

He said it as late as 11/16/08 (end of video)

[Tom_PM]

What thing did the media condemn Bush for, but are applauding, or just giving a pass to Obama on?

[sperbonzo]

Originally Posted by PR_Tom

What thing did the media condemn Bush for, but are applauding, or just giving a pass to Obama on?

Watch the Video.... It's only 4 minutes.


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[Gerco]

I don't know much, but I do know that I have not seen 6+ dollar gas this summer. Things "seem" to actually be picking up around here. There is also a calm that I have not seen in a long time. If you head down to the local hardware store,(the local hangout for the older locals) No one is up in arms, bitching about all the stuff they where bitching about under bush etc... all of a sudden the topics are more about local life again, fishing, how the families doing etc.

Using that as kind of a "happy meter" I would say that there has been improvement.

[Amputate Your Head]

Originally Posted by sperbonzo

True, but the point is that the same things that CNN, MSNBC, ABC, CBS, etc... were condemning Bush for, they just give Obama a pass on.....


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You mean just like the right did for 8 years for GW?

[Sly]

Originally Posted by Gerco

I don't know much, but I do know that I have not seen 6+ dollar gas this summer. Things "seem" to actually be picking up around here. There is also a calm that I have not seen in a long time. If you head down to the local hardware store,(the local hangout for the older locals) No one is up in arms, bitching about all the stuff they where bitching about under bush etc... all of a sudden the topics are more about local life again, fishing, how the families doing etc.

Using that as kind of a "happy meter" I would say that there has been improvement.

Six dollar gas is your indicator?

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by Jakez

i'm not going to act like I understand or know everything Obama is doing. But God himself couldn't turn around the downward spiral we've fell into in only 2 years.

That pretty much sums it up right there.

The problem is American society - and the rest of the world - demands and expects instant gratification. Everyone seems to think this can be fixed over night, or at the very least in six months. If that was the case, why didn't Bush fix it in the last year of his administration? Could McCain have done any better? The only thing that is going to fix this problem is time, and patience is the one thing we lack right about now.

[stocktrader23]

Originally Posted by sperbonzo

The point was that the media condemned Bush for doing things, which, when the same things are now being done by Obama, are being either applauded or ignored.

The "hit" was much more about media coverage than about Bush or Obama....

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I thought that was your point and I'll just say this. If someone compiled a list of things Obama gets condemned for but Bush got a pass on and compared it to a list of things that Bush got condemned on where Obama didn't one of those lists is going to be a lot fucking bigger. Guess which one that is.

[Tom_PM]

I paused it at 21 seconds in just to say that so far, the guy is just a cockhead. Continuing on.

[sperbonzo]

Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head

You mean just like the right did for 8 years for GW?

As far as the "right" I assume you mean Fox, since that is the only "right" wing news channel.

Although it certainly wasn't as harsh as the other (left) news channels, Fox didn't simply ignore stories the way that the left wing channels are doing now. I give you, for example, the Black Panthers / Eric Holder Story. The Left wing news waited almost 2.5 weeks before making the barest mention of it and some of them didn't cover it at all.

There are a dozen more examples of this.

[stocktrader23]

Originally Posted by PR_Tom

I paused it at 21 seconds in just to say that so far, the guy is just a cockhead. Continuing on.

A grating cockhead to boot.

[sperbonzo]

Originally Posted by stocktrader23

I thought that was your point and I'll just say this. If someone compiled a list of things Obama gets condemned for but Bush got a pass on and compared it to a list of things that Bush got condemned on where Obama didn't one of those lists is going to be a lot fucking bigger. Guess which one that is.

Compile away... I would be fascinated to read it!


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[TurboAngel]

Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head

At least Obama doesn't sound like a southern retarded boy every time he opens his mouth.

One good point.

[IllTestYourGirls]

Originally Posted by Gerco

I don't know much, but I do know that I have not seen 6+ dollar gas this summer. Things "seem" to actually be picking up around here. There is also a calm that I have not seen in a long time. If you head down to the local hardware store,(the local hangout for the older locals) No one is up in arms, bitching about all the stuff they where bitching about under bush etc... all of a sudden the topics are more about local life again, fishing, how the families doing etc.

Using that as kind of a "happy meter" I would say that there has been improvement.

Wow. Thats great. Because I have not seen any of that. Everywhere I go all I hear about is how bad things are. It really is pretty depressing. I hear business owners scared to death about new regulations and are not hiring because of it. I hear about large business no longer even bidding on construction projects and are "going to coast this one out" because they do not dare to bid because they dont know what laws will be passed next and will cause them to go bankrupt.

That company that is coasting it out is not a small business. They have over 200 people working for them, not including subcontractors.

[_Richard_]

Originally Posted by justinsain

So true

Watch as Obama goes two terms, manages to stop the tailspin and finally gets the country going in the right direction and the president that follows him will get all the credit and be treated as the savior.

i don't think that's going to happen. In the end, it wasn't so much the US that wasn't ready for a black president, which it's not, instead it's the world.

[IllTestYourGirls]

Originally Posted by sperbonzo

As far as the "right" I assume you mean Fox, since that is the only "right" wing news channel.

Although it certainly wasn't as harsh as the other (left) news channels, Fox didn't simply ignore stories the way that the left wing channels are doing now. I give you, for example, the Black Panthers / Eric Holder Story. The Left wing news waited almost 2.5 weeks before making the barest mention of it and some of them didn't cover it at all.

There are a dozen more examples of this.

Acorn and Van Jones come to mind.

[Tom_PM]

ok, I've seen 2 minutes of this idiots propogranda. Thats more than enough.

have fun here with your little hate game.

[Sly]

Originally Posted by sperbonzo

As far as the "right" I assume you mean Fox, since that is the only "right" wing news channel.

Although it certainly wasn't as harsh as the other (left) news channels, Fox didn't simply ignore stories the way that the left wing channels are doing now. I give you, for example, the Black Panthers / Eric Holder Story. The Left wing news waited almost 2.5 weeks before making the barest mention of it and some of them didn't cover it at all.

There are a dozen more examples of this.

The real story behind the Black Panthers has nothing to do with the Black Panthers. Some of the details and instructions that are coming out because of that case really leave one scratching their head. True or not, I guess we'll find out. But to not even talk about it or wonder what the deal is? Pretty strange.

Lawyers were told not to prosecute cases involving minorities. What's up with that?