How long until epassporte has full functionality?

[fatfoo]

How long do we have to wait until we can withdraw money from ATM through Epassporte plastic card?

Any ideas?

[Tjeezers]

we know just as much as you know

[chronig]

Fatfoo, your 50$ description money in your epassporte is gone forever.

Congratulations. Goodluck, fatfoo. ~~

[StinkyPink]

Is there anyone that can answer that question? I don't think so, not today.

[Amputate Your Head]

14 months, 8 days, 2 hours, and 21 minutes..... exactly.

[nikki99]

I hope soon... I need that money to eat....

[lazycash]

Originally Posted by fatfoo

How long do we have to wait until we can withdraw money from ATM through Epassporte plastic card?

Any ideas?

A debit card (also known as a bank card or check card) is a plastic card that provides an alternative payment method to cash when making purchases. Functionally, it can be called an electronic cheque, as the funds are withdrawn directly from either the bank account, or from the remaining balance on the card. In some cases, the cards are designed exclusively for use on the Internet, and so there is no physical card

[2intense]

they will disappear,no way to fix this issue

[area51 - BANNED FOR LIFE]

Originally Posted by fatfoo

How long do we have to wait until we can withdraw money from ATM through Epassporte plastic card?

Any ideas?

Originally Posted by lazycash

A debit card (also known as a bank card or check card) is a plastic card that provides an alternative payment method to cash when making purchases. Functionally, it can be called an electronic cheque, as the funds are withdrawn directly from either the bank account, or from the remaining balance on the card. In some cases, the cards are designed exclusively for use on the Internet, and so there is no physical card

Glad you were able to get the answer you were looking for and this issue is now considered to be resolved. Ticket closed.

[Slutboat]

Originally Posted by lazycash

A debit card (also known as a bank card or check card) is a plastic card that provides an alternative payment method to cash when making purchases. Functionally, it can be called an electronic cheque, as the funds are withdrawn directly from either the bank account, or from the remaining balance on the card. In some cases, the cards are designed exclusively for use on the Internet, and so there is no physical card

hahahaHaha

[spacedog]

Have faith and disregard the doomsayers. My guess is that we'll all have a definite answer by Wednesday, perhaps even have some functionality by the end of the week..

One can only hope and be patient.. At least it's my own hope that I'm right about this.

[fris]

never ever again

[iMind]

Originally Posted by fris

never ever again

Regardless if the epass visa problem gets fixed, this is probably 100% accurate..
the cards we currently hold, will likely never work again.

[maxidrom11]

wallet and wires will be operative

[Ron Bennett]

Originally Posted by fatfoo

How long do we have to wait until we can withdraw money from ATM through Epassporte plastic card?

Probably Never.

The cards were, presumably, all permanently canceled when ePassporte's VISA merchant processing relationship, from all indications, was terminated.

People seeking to withdraw funds quickly, in the meantime, will need to request a bank wire instead. ePassporte charges $50 and that's on top of fees one's receiving bank charges ($10-15 is common), plus intermediaries, if any, (often around $20 each).

It's possible that ePassporte could enter a new merchant processing agreement - not a sure thing. If they're able to, then they could then issue new cards, but that will take awhile, as in a few weeks at best, to more likely, a few months.

Ron

[ottopottomouse]

The day after you lose your virginity.

[Scott McD]

Fatfoo biz thread ??

[lazycash]

I think they are gonna have to reissue new cards after they re establish a new relationship. There will be a $50 replacement card fee, how much money do you have in your epass account fatfoo?

[Vick!]

Originally Posted by lazycash

I think they are gonna have to reissue new cards after they re establish a new relationship. There will be a $50 replacement card fee?

They should charge that fee right now, it would shut up many of us.

[pimpware]

Originally Posted by nikki99

I hope soon... I need that money to eat....

You are not alone

[Chosen]

Originally Posted by lazycash

A debit card (also known as a bank card or check card) is a plastic card that provides an alternative payment method to cash when making purchases. Functionally, it can be called an electronic cheque, as the funds are withdrawn directly from either the bank account, or from the remaining balance on the card. In some cases, the cards are designed exclusively for use on the Internet, and so there is no physical card

[spacedog]

Originally Posted by lazycash

I think they are gonna have to reissue new cards after they re establish a new relationship. There will be a $50 replacement card fee, how much money do you have in your epass account fatfoo?

I think ePass should eat the fucking fee.. I just paid renewal and if they have to reissue new cards, I expect ePass to do it at no charge.

[Sloane]

Originally Posted by Scott McD

Fatfoo biz thread ??

LOL, why are we all talking to a bot?

[Socks]

Imagine the goldrush to pull funds out when and if that day comes. The amount of money people are willing to keep in their epass accounts just dropped about 95% I'd say. They're going to have some serious float problems.

[marketsmart]

the good news is, you are all going to get a free copy of Middle Men...



.

[fitzmulti]

Originally Posted by marketsmart

the good news is, you are all going to get a free copy of Middle Men...



.

LOL!
On VHS, though.

[Kiopa_Matt]

Yeah, no chance ePass is going to open the flood gates again anytime soon. Just imagine the withdrawals.

One day, "Look, we have $15 million in our account!"

Next day, "Oh shit, we only have $500 "

[chronig]

Originally Posted by lazycash

A debit card (also known as a bank card or check card) is a plastic card that provides an alternative payment method to cash when making purchases. Functionally, it can be called an electronic cheque, as the funds are withdrawn directly from either the bank account, or from the remaining balance on the card. In some cases, the cards are designed exclusively for use on the Internet, and so there is no physical card

[DanS]

Originally Posted by Ron Bennett

Probably Never.

The cards were, presumably, all permanently canceled when ePassporte's VISA merchant processing relationship, from all indications, was terminated.

Ron

It does not look like the cards are permanently canceled yet.
They still have functionality and the error message is definately different than on an expired or canceled card.
My ATM says that "this transaction is currently not allowed", when I use cash advance.

I tried an old card, and its different.

However, I agree with the rest of your post.

[Agent 488]

[Socks]

Someone should make a graph of how the epass drama has affected overall sig whorage. I bet it's fallen off the map.

Fatfoo, can you tell us if you've noticed a lack of motivation to punch in at GFY these days? In 5 words or less, of course...

[Tempest]

Originally Posted by Ron Bennett

The cards were, presumably, all permanently canceled when ePassporte's VISA merchant processing relationship, from all indications, was terminated.

Wasn't terminated. i.e. "suspended" is not terminated

Visa International has suspended our banking partner’s (St. Kitts Nevis Anguilla National Bank) ePassporte Visa program.

[Ron Bennett]

Originally Posted by DanS

It does not look like the cards are permanently canceled yet.
They still have functionality and the error message is definately different than on an expired or canceled card.
My ATM says that "this transaction is currently not allowed", when I use cash advance.

I tried an old card, and its different.

However, I agree with the rest of your post.

Thanks for the info.

So there's a slight, remote chance the cards could be restored - imho, high unlikely though. But for many ePassporte users with money stuck, even a 1 in zillion chance beats zero at this point - gives people hope.

Ron

[Ron Bennett]

Originally Posted by Tempest

Wasn't terminated. i.e. "suspended" is not terminated

That's correct. What I stated was: "The cards were, presumably, all permanently canceled when ePassporte's VISA merchant processing relationship, from all indications, was terminated."

I did not definitively say the cards were canceled nor the relationship terminated - I don't know the status any more than anyone else here other than ePassporte insiders. However, all indications point in that direction ...

How often does VISA suspend a merchant relationship, including suspending all cards, of the size of ePassporte, and then later restore the cards / resume the relationship? Likely close to never? If it quacks like a duck, it likely is a duck ... hence, most likely the cards are canceled and the relationship terminated.

Ron

[will76]

Originally Posted by fatfoo

How long do we have to wait until we can withdraw money from ATM through Epassporte plastic card?

Any ideas?

Sometimes there is a long wait at the ATM machines when trying to withdraw money. When I travel out of the country for a long time I have to use my plastic passport.

[will76]

Originally Posted by lazycash

A debit card (also known as a bank card or check card) is a plastic card that provides an alternative payment method to cash when making purchases. Functionally, it can be called an electronic cheque, as the funds are withdrawn directly from either the bank account, or from the remaining balance on the card. In some cases, the cards are designed exclusively for use on the Internet, and so there is no physical card

damn i was too slow

[Tempest]

Originally Posted by Ron Bennett

That's correct. What I stated was: "The cards were, presumably, all permanently canceled when ePassporte's VISA merchant processing relationship, from all indications, was terminated."

I did not definitively say the cards were canceled nor the relationship terminated - I don't know the status any more than anyone else here other than ePassporte insiders. However, all indications point in that direction ...

How often does VISA suspend a merchant relationship, including suspending all cards, of the size of ePassporte, and then later restore the cards / resume the relationship? Likely close to never? If it quacks like a duck, it likely is a duck ... hence, most likely the cards are canceled and the relationship terminated.

Ron

Oh please... You used terminated, cancelled etc. because that's what you think is going on not based on any real information and you want to add to the mania going on.

More likely what's happened is that Visa told the bank to get things in order for the new regulations. The bank told ePass. ePass lowered limits. Visa said that ain't enough and because we don't like you we're going to suspend things until you get your ducks in a row.

Michael O has said he's 100% sure the funds will become available at some point.

[Ron Bennett]

Originally Posted by Tempest

More likely what's happened is that Visa told the bank to get things in order for the new regulations. The bank told ePass. ePass lowered limits. Visa said that ain't enough and because we don't like you we're going to suspend things until you get your ducks in a row.

Sounds great, and may very well be the case.

However, this could be a situation in which ePassporte knows it won't be able to comply with VISA's requirements and related banking regulations / laws while maintaining its existing business model...

Without the virtual visa / cards, ePassporte is of limited usefulness to many ... bank wires are expensive while ACH / bank transfers take days verses the ease of popping in an ATM card and getting cash out right away.

Ron

[Yngwie]

2 weeks and 3 days

[papill0n]

An epassporte card is made of plastic.

Plastic comes in many forms and colors.

My uncle works at a plastic factory.

I once jerked off inside a factory elevator.

Hope that fucking helps and good luck shit lips!!!!

[Supz]

In Nevuary

[Barefootsies]

Originally Posted by Supz

In Nevuary

You mean Nevember?

[alias]

right after never

[seeandsee]

If this get solved this week i will stay with epass, they were best option for me

[Chosen]

Originally Posted by seeandsee

If this get solved this week i will stay with epass, they were best option for me

Many people will stay...

[J. Falcon]

Originally Posted by chronig

Fatfoo, your 50$ description money in your epassporte is gone forever.

Congratulations. Goodluck, fatfoo. ~~

[fatfoo]

Originally Posted by chronig

Fatfoo, your 50$ description money in your epassporte is gone forever.

Congratulations. Goodluck, fatfoo. ~~

Ha ha ha.
I cashed out everything few days before epassporte fucked up.
The eye in the sky looked my way. I'm not illegal.

[2intense]

Originally Posted by spacedog

I think ePass should eat the fucking fee.. I just paid renewal and if they have to reissue new cards, I expect ePass to do it at no charge.

same here

[2intense]

Originally Posted by ottopottomouse

The day after you lose your virginity.

[fatfoo]

Originally Posted by Socks

Someone should make a graph of how the epass drama has affected overall sig whorage. I bet it's fallen off the map.

Fatfoo, can you tell us if you've noticed a lack of motivation to punch in at GFY these days? In 5 words or less, of course...

I have not been at GFY much in the last 3 or 4 days.
My customers pay by epassporte and paypal mostly.
Epassporte should fix problems as soon as possible.
Epassporte should reimburse fees due to lack of functionality.