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Old 01-12-2003, 12:50 PM   #101
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that is EXACTLY my point.. traffic directly from your tgp or any tgp is decent if not good.. but through his system it is total shit.. it gets so used and abused.. that surefer is ready to call it a day and try again tomorrow.. he is ruining tgp's everyday with stunts like this.
You know yer full of shit. You're trying to latch on to anything you can grab ahold of. An abused surfer is MUCH more likely to buy once he gets to a paysite! Why would a bookmarked TGP pampered surfer be more willing to spend $ than a circle-jerked lost and confused surfer?! Yer argument holds no water. Where is 12Clicks to set this shit straight...
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Old 01-12-2003, 12:50 PM   #102
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Sorry to hear that Sleazy, but everyone has a breaking point, I reached mine. This guy constantantly attacks me for no reason other than the fact that he is a asshole. He says he does not want my traffic and even asks me to ban him. Enough is enough. If Shemp leaves sorry to see him go he is a great guy I respect a lot. Life goes on though.
we could have avoided all this last night if you had the balls to accept my fucking offer to buy traffic from you and post the results. but you are to pig headed and full of yourself to do it. its your loss.. nobody elses.
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Old 01-12-2003, 12:50 PM   #103
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that is EXACTLY my point.. traffic directly from your tgp or any tgp is decent if not good.. but through his system it is total shit.. it gets so used and abused.. that surefer is ready to call it a day and try again tomorrow.. he is ruining tgp's everyday with stunts like this.
So blinding is the hypocrisy.

First you say TGP traffic is shit, ban it, freeloaders. Now you're pissed because Choker RUINS the tgp surfers? How can you ruin something that already sucks, that you already scorn.

He's ruining tgp surfers the same way you and your buddies ruin surfers by crossbilling them $120 per membership, except your way costs money.
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I think Choker was just waiting to ban a sponsor -- just to see what would happen... You know eventually that's where this is headed...

All that Choker traffic will go to whoever kisses his ass the best...
I still think is fucking absurd. A traffic broker banning a program? If the traffic comes from tgps that do not have a problem with epiccash I don't see what the deal is except for personal grudge.

However, I've seen many TGPs that don't accept sponsors free content for ND and those are accepted for choker galleries. Isn't that sort of ass backwards.
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Old 01-12-2003, 12:52 PM   #105
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So blinding is the hypocrisy.

First you say TGP traffic is shit, ban it, freeloaders. Now you're pissed because Choker RUINS the tgp surfers? How can you ruin something that already sucks, that you already scorn.

He's ruining tgp surfers the same way you and your buddies ruin surfers by crossbilling them $120 per membership, except your way costs money.
tgp has value.. choker does not. that is the difference.

choker is not a tgp.. he is a fancy circle jerk. nothing more.
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Old 01-12-2003, 12:52 PM   #106
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ummm, you have to actually go to an internext convention to look forward to it.


I have a great uncle who made a few million back in the 50's and 60's in the construction business. One thing he told me, if someone refuses to meet you again and again - terminate all business with them. The longer I stay in this business the more I realize that his words were VERY very good advise.
Nah. I dont need to meet any of you. You know how many webmasters I have met face to face in the last 3 years? 3.

Brad Sin Empire is always trying to get me to go out on a date with him. He is relentless!
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Old 01-12-2003, 12:52 PM   #107
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that is EXACTLY my point.. traffic directly from your tgp or any tgp is decent if not good.. but through his system it is total shit.. it gets so used and abused.. that surefer is ready to call it a day and try again tomorrow.. he is ruining tgp's everyday with stunts like this.
Once more you run your mouth about something you know nothing about. These tgps send this traffic directly to the galleries not thru my sites, only thru counting script. Pimpdog you said you don't want this traffic, that it is shit. Tell this to all these guys in Florida in August.
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Old 01-12-2003, 12:52 PM   #108
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ummm, you have to actually go to an internext convention to look forward to it.


I have a great uncle who made a few million back in the 50's and 60's in the construction business. One thing he told me, if someone refuses to meet you again and again - terminate all business with them. The longer I stay in this business the more I realize that his words were VERY very good advise.


...too bad we never met...you were too busy looking into the stars
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Old 01-12-2003, 12:55 PM   #110
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Choker, stop acting like a fucking dork. Just drop it already. You don't need pimpdogg, and he doesn't need you. You're just making a fool out of yourself.

pimpdogg is a dumbass anyway, we already knew that.
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Sorry to hear that Sleazy, but everyone has a breaking point, I reached mine. This guy constantantly attacks me for no reason other than the fact that he is a asshole. He says he does not want my traffic and even asks me to ban him. Enough is enough. If Shemp leaves sorry to see him go he is a great guy I respect a lot. Life goes on though.

There are things you deal with in public, and things you deal with in private. Professionals know the difference, children throw public tantrams.

You can only speak for yourself. I get galleries on many of the sites you mentioned but I wouldn't even think of trying to speak for them. Making a public bitch fest like this wasn't a sign of good character, but Posting TGP names like you did without their concent really crossed a line.
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Once more you run your mouth about something you know nothing about. These tgps send this traffic directly to the galleries not thru my sites, only thru counting script. Pimpdog you said you don't want this traffic, that it is shit. Tell this to all these guys in Florida in August.
yea right idiot.. then explain why when i goto one of your sites and i click on a gallery link, but get jerked to another tgp.. repeat that over and over 5 times.. and its useless.. its a fucking circle jerk.. I didnt get to a gallery for awhile.. but you are right. sometimes I got lucky and actually got a gallery.. woohoo.
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Where the fuck is Amp when you need him?

TOO...MUCH...FREE....PO... ahh, I don't have the energy.
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An abused surfer is MUCH more likely to buy once he gets to a paysite!
What? If your content doesnt suck, you can convert anything.

Again, using your theory, CJs would have the best converting traffic.

I dont need to abuse gay surfers to make them buy.
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Old 01-12-2003, 12:56 PM   #115
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we could have avoided all this last night if you had the balls to accept my fucking offer to buy traffic from you and post the results. but you are to pig headed and full of yourself to do it. its your loss.. nobody elses.
Your offer was obviously an attack waiting to happen... You expect Choker to trust you to be honest about how many sales you made? After all your useless insults? Hell no... I would have ignored your offer too -- besides he has nothing to prove to you as far as conversions go -- you even admit in the other thread that your site can't convert TGP traffic! LOL
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that is EXACTLY my point.. traffic directly from your tgp or any tgp is decent if not good.. but through his system it is total shit.. it gets so used and abused.. that surefer is ready to call it a day and try again tomorrow.. he is ruining tgp's everyday with stunts like this.
What the fuck do you mean he is ruining TGP'S everyday? Doesnt normal traffic trading scripts do the same sort of thing? You can call it skimming or circle jerking whatever. Its part of it.Personally I wouldnt want to do anything with a sponsor who constantly attacks TGP's saying Their traffic is shit.Now this is getting fucking stupid..

Shemp
So you actually take some guys word that Chokers traffic is shit and assume because your site is listed on a list that everybodies traffic is shit?

I am noway "Elite" but that just doesnt make sense to me.What about all the people that like his traffic?
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ummm, you have to actually go to an internext convention to look forward to it.


I have a great uncle who made a few million back in the 50's and 60's in the construction business. One thing he told me, if someone refuses to meet you again and again - terminate all business with them. The longer I stay in this business the more I realize that his words were VERY very good advise.
Sleazy I told you I am a single dad, I just can't get up and go somewhere for days. I have kids in school. It's not so easy to pick up and leave in my situation. I will go to the one in Florida in August, at least for one day. It is only a four hour drive for me in Florida. It has nothing to do with refusing to meet anyone. I look forward to meeting a lot of people in August.
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What? If your content doesnt suck, you can convert anything.

Again, using your theory, CJs would have the best converting traffic.

I dont need to abuse gay surfers to make them buy.

i hear jilted gay lovers are more inclined to put out though..
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that is EXACTLY my point.. traffic directly from your tgp or any tgp is decent if not good.. but through his system it is total shit.. it gets so used and abused.. that surefer is ready to call it a day and try again tomorrow.. he is ruining tgp's everyday with stunts like this.
Agreed - the quality of the traffic that arrives with Choker is good - what happens to it after that may be a problem. All these automated gallery lists with a 30% shave to trades do NOT constitute a 'site' to send traffic.
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he is ruining tgp's everyday with stunts like this.

I have a new respect for Choker if he is indeed ruining tgp's. When is everyone going to realize that all these tgp's are killing the industry?

Submitting galleries all day long does not make one a webmaster.
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dude, i would have loved to have met you. next time I'll give you my cell number so we can hook up for lunch or something.....
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somehow i get the feeling if i ever met labret in person he'd kick my ass, thank god i don't attend conventions
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I still think is fucking absurd. A traffic broker banning a program? If the traffic comes from tgps that do not have a problem with epiccash I don't see what the deal is except for personal grudge.

You think it's absurd and yet TheHun can come in here any day of the week and blacklist any sponsor that he wants to just because of an exit console... When you have one man with over 1,000,000 gallery clicks -- a lot of people will be kissing ass and he can set any rules that he wants... Losing Shemp will be a setback -- but I think Choker knows this won't affect him -- why do you think he is working on offering a free trade script? Do you think he wants to be a TGP bitch? Hell no... Lots and LOTS of little guys will be feeding Choker -- nobody wants to be a TGP bitch...
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I would want to hug you.


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yea right idiot.. then explain why when i goto one of your sites and i click on a gallery link, but get jerked to another tgp.. repeat that over and over 5 times.. and its useless.. its a fucking circle jerk.. I didnt get to a gallery for awhile.. but you are right. sometimes I got lucky and actually got a gallery.. woohoo.
I dont think you will ever grasp the idea of traffic trading? You sound like you havent heard of a trading script before.

If you were to run a site would you just relie on buying traffic and have hardlinks to galleries? And none to trades? Either you must have alot of money or your site wont last very long
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Sleazy I told you I am a single dad, I just can't get up and go somewhere for days. I have kids in school. It's not so easy to pick up and leave in my situation. I will go to the one in Florida in August, at least for one day. It is only a four hour drive for me in Florida. It has nothing to do with refusing to meet anyone. I look forward to meeting a lot of people in August.
I know of other single dads that hired a babysitter and made it to vegas...... that really isn't an excuse.
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this is nonsense.. typical gfy fuck fest.. choker stick your crap traffic up your ass. ban me if you must to feel better about yourself. I really dont care. I do business with big tgp's not little pissants like you that whored all the small tgps into one big lump.


If i offended any tgp's owners.. that wasnt my intention.. my intention was to say that CHOKER's system is pure shit.. and it fucks up everything. he is the fucking kmart/walmart of porn.
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You'd still love me.. in the dirty way?

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You think it's absurd and yet TheHun can come in here any day of the week and blacklist any sponsor that he wants to just because of an exit console... When you have one man with over 1,000,000 gallery clicks -- a lot of people will be kissing ass and he can set any rules that he wants... Losing Shemp will be a setback -- but I think Choker knows this won't affect him -- why do you think he is working on offering a free trade script? Do you think he wants to be a TGP bitch? Hell no... Lots and LOTS of little guys will be feeding Choker -- nobody wants to be a TGP bitch...
there's a big difference between being a cheater and someone bitching about not making any money.
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I have to archive it. Labret, using an emoticon.
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If i offended any tgp's owners.. that wasnt my intention.. my intention was to say that CHOKER's system is pure shit.. and it fucks up everything. he is the fucking kmart/walmart of porn.
this statement shows you ain't too bright either. Choker's system isn't shit, it's one of the smartest new ideas to hit TGPs in a long time.


I think maybe you both need to get a spanking and be sent to your rooms without dinner.
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What? If your content doesnt suck, you can convert anything.

Again, using your theory, CJs would have the best converting traffic.

I dont need to abuse gay surfers to make them buy.
Ok, then there isn't too much free porn Woohoo!
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this statement shows you ain't too bright either. Choker's system isn't shit, it's one of the smartest new ideas to hit TGPs in a long time.


I think maybe you both need to get a spanking and be sent to your rooms without dinner.
how on earth can you justify what he does? he is a big circle jerk.. he recycles traffic over and over.. he doesnt have 10million hits a day.. he has about 2 million that get tossed around all day long to the same shit. sorry if you disagree, but its bullshit what he does. it doesnt help the tgps out one bit.
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Old 01-12-2003, 01:10 PM   #137
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how on earth can you justify what he does? he is a big circle jerk.. he recycles traffic over and over.. he doesnt have 10million hits a day.. he has about 2 million that get tossed around all day long to the same shit. sorry if you disagree, but its bullshit what he does. it doesnt help the tgps out one bit.
I know a lot of people that can make money from his traffic. Just cause you can't doesn't mean others can't either.
Assumptions like that only show your own stupidity.
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Old 01-12-2003, 01:11 PM   #139
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I know of other single dads that hired a babysitter and made it to vegas...... that really isn't an excuse.
Dude, I don't make excuses to you or anyone because I did not go to Vegas. My kids are in school and I can't be away for more than a day. It's that simple. If you were a single parent you would understand this. Try raising two 10 year old girls on your own. It is a full time job in itself. In August they are out of school and I can get a babysitter.

As far as the banning of Epic Cash sure enough soon as I banned him I got a guy icqed me up said he spent hours on a gallery promoting epic cash. Yeah that was not right of me and I reacted out of anger. I will not ban Epic Cash. But I still think that anyone that promotes him after seeing the posts of Pimpdogs really needs to re think who they are trusting their traffic too.

As far as Shemp leaving nothing I can do. That list of TGPs he knew about as does every TGP that sells this gallery traffic. I apoligize to him if me posting that list offended him. That list is essential to selling gallery spots. When a prosective gallery spot buyer asks where does the traffic come from, he is given the url of that list.
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Old 01-12-2003, 01:12 PM   #140
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I know a lot of people that can make money from his traffic. Just cause you can't doean't mean others can't either.
Assumptions like that only show your own stupidity.
lol how can i make money from it when he wont sell it to me?!?!

My stupidy is even getting involved in this.. but here i am. I simply asked to test it out and post the results. he refused.. and this is the outcome. catch up big boy.
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Old 01-12-2003, 01:13 PM   #141
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Actually.... CJ traffic converts... Less FREE PORN... MORE $$$

You can make $100/day just by listing chokers gallery...
thats like 3 Signups a/day with a 40k site that is bannerless....

Yes let me tell you, Choker TGP Traffic is far beyond TheHun.com.
What is soo innovative about those crappy sites that was born 1996? I can make sites like that in minutes... It just sit there &
steal the $ all to themselves....

I only been in this game 3months & now making $300/day...
& im still in highschool... life aint fair huh

Labret, Pimpdogg & The oldschool people...
Choker is too big to stop now, what you gonna do about it?
Instead of sitting there why not start a program like Choker?
If its sooo newbish lets see you guy start something like that...
Competition IS GOOD FOR EVERYONE
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Choker, just some advice -- it sounds like a lot of people are ready to drop your script anyway -- mostly because the returns aren't 10% -- you have to cash out all that traffic -- your setup is too complicated to add a new site -- look at how easy exxxt.com is to set up to do basically the same thing... but I think even more important is that you can't tout your system as building bookmarkers when your galleries are pretty shitty... Maybe you could get away w/ shitty galleries if you were paying more cash for traffic, but when I signed up to send traffic to you -- my clicks went to your TGP pages, not to quality galleries...

Look out man I'm coming to get you! Hehe...
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Old 01-12-2003, 01:15 PM   #143
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lol how can i make money from it when he wont sell it to me?!?!

My stupidy is even getting involved in this.. but here i am. I simply asked to test it out and post the results. he refused.. and this is the outcome. catch up big boy.
when was the last time you went into a restrauant and asked to TEST out their feature T-Bone staek dinner - saying if you were full after eating it you might come back next week and buy one for real.
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Old 01-12-2003, 01:15 PM   #144
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just so i can clarify.. are you talking about banning me.. or getting off chokers tgp list




No no, i'll reroute the traffic to some else that doesnt throw my name around. I'm done with Choker.


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but when I signed up to send traffic to you -- my clicks went to your TGP pages, not to quality galleries
That is because you used the wrong linking urls dude.
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Old 01-12-2003, 01:17 PM   #146
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Actually.... CJ traffic converts... Less FREE PORN... MORE $$$

You can make $100/day just by listing chokers gallery...
thats like 3 Signups a/day with a 40k site that is bannerless....

Yes let me tell you, Choker TGP Traffic is far beyond TheHun.com.
What is soo innovative about those crappy sites that was born 1996? I can make sites like that in minutes... It just sit there &
steal the $ all to themselves....

I only been in this game 3months & now making $300/day...
& im still in highschool... life aint fair huh

Labret, Pimpdogg & The oldschool people...
Choker is too big to stop now, what you gonna do about it?
Instead of sitting there why not start a program like Choker?
If its sooo newbish lets see you guy start something like that...
Competition IS GOOD FOR EVERYONE
Dude, please ICQ me -- you obviously understand how this works... I need to know more guys like you... ICQ#1622420
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Old 01-12-2003, 01:18 PM   #147
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Dude, I don't make excuses to you or anyone because I did not go to Vegas. My kids are in school and I can't be away for more than a day. It's that simple. If you were a single parent you would understand this. Try raising two 10 year old girls on your own. It is a full time job in itself. In August they are out of school and I can get a babysitter.

As far as the banning of Epic Cash sure enough soon as I banned him I got a guy icqed me up said he spent hours on a gallery promoting epic cash. Yeah that was not right of me and I reacted out of anger. I will not ban Epic Cash. But I still think that anyone that promotes him after seeing the posts of Pimpdogs really needs to re think who they are trusting their traffic too.

As far as Shemp leaving nothing I can do. That list of TGPs he knew about as does every TGP that sells this gallery traffic. I apoligize to him if me posting that list offended him. That list is essential to selling gallery spots. When a prosective gallery spot buyer asks where does the traffic come from, he is given the url of that list.
Dude, a public pissing like this still shows a lack of character. It wasn't good and I wasn't the only one who lost a LOT of respect for you today.
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That is because you used the wrong linking urls dude.
DOH!
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Yes let me tell you, Choker TGP Traffic is far beyond TheHun.com.
What is soo innovative about those crappy sites that was born 1996? I can make sites like that in minutes... It just sit there &
steal the $ all to themselves....
hahaha good luck
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Old 01-12-2003, 01:22 PM   #150
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TheFly, i was going to post that issue

Anywayz yah like TheFly said....

How are you going to gain bookmarkers if all the galleries
is full of text that convince them to leave your site?
Be honest Choker...

I found that some of your GalleryLinks redirect to other TGP site... thats NOT RIGHT MAN.

Please make the gallery more cleaner... Choker.

Pimpdogg got the right to get pissed off to see someone
that was a newbie & now playing the TGP game differently.
From Labret point of view, Seeing all these TGP sites contribute
to a system that is full of shit that he can see does Choker good...

Let the Porn Revolution begin.
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