GM IPO boost to democrats in 2012?

[Vendzilla]

The unusual bankruptcy settlement for GM granted a significant portion of the company to the United Auto Workers. The union is in this game too, even though it has no investment to recoup. The UAW is selling around 18 million shares, so it stands to gain about $500 million for its pension fund ? at taxpayers? expense

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2010/11/18/gm...#ixzz15qOBPrzY

Do you wonder what the unions will do with that money in 2012?

[theking]

The article for the most part is pigshit.

[Slutboat]

Vendzilla why do you advocate for the destruction of the middle class?

[Vendzilla]

Originally Posted by Slutboat

Vendzilla why do you advocate for the destruction of the middle class?

You speak so much and say so little
Just so you know, I have two union cards, IUEC and Teamsters
I didn't like what they did with our dues, never did

[Vendzilla]

Originally Posted by theking

The article for the most part is pigshit.

I just took out the part where the unions are taking 500million dollars at the taxpayers expence, and I know they will be spending it on the democrats in 2012

[jezebelz]

This entire idea was an epic fail. Anyone that knows anything about business understands that this "bailout" basically handed control of the company to the unions. The taxpayers will never get a solid return on their "investment". It will ultimately bite Obama in the ass, especially when the Unions sink a shitload of cash into his war chest in 2012. People are fed up with "business as usual" politics from both parties.

[Vendzilla]

Originally Posted by jezebelz

This entire idea was an epic fail. Anyone that knows anything about business understands that this "bailout" basically handed control of the company to the unions. The taxpayers will never get a solid return on their "investment". It will ultimately bite Obama in the ass, especially when the Unions sink a shitload of cash into his war chest in 2012. People are fed up with "business as usual" politics from both parties.

Like everything that Barry has done, good idea, bad execution of it

[NaughtyVisions]

Originally Posted by jezebelz

This entire idea was an epic fail.

Not everything is epic, shitheads.

And for the record, fail is a verb, and is something you do, like fail at English. The act of failing is "failure," and is a noun. People can be failures, but they can't be "fails." That doesn't make sense. So when you miserable pieces of shit say "epic fail," what you really mean is "epic failure."

[blackmonsters]

Originally Posted by Vendzilla

The unusual bankruptcy settlement for GM granted a significant portion of the company to the United Auto Workers. The union is in this game too, even though it has no investment to recoup. The UAW is selling around 18 million shares, so it stands to gain about $500 million for its pension fund ? at taxpayers? expense

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2010/11/18/gm...#ixzz15qOBPrzY

Do you wonder what the unions will do with that money in 2012?

Until you wave your rights to collect Social Security/medicare/unemployment; all you spout about is just pig shit.

Thanks.

[Vendzilla]

Originally Posted by blackmonsters

Until you wave your rights to collect Social Security/medicare/unemployment; all you spout about is just pig shit.

Thanks.

Unemployment is paid thru insurance till Obama and the democrats started extending it

I have two union pensions coming to me when I retire, Medicare is fucked up right now because of the new healthcare law, so blow it out you ass shit for brains

[kane]

Originally Posted by jezebelz

This entire idea was an epic fail. Anyone that knows anything about business understands that this "bailout" basically handed control of the company to the unions. The taxpayers will never get a solid return on their "investment". It will ultimately bite Obama in the ass, especially when the Unions sink a shitload of cash into his war chest in 2012. People are fed up with "business as usual" politics from both parties.

I think most people either won't care or won't know. Everyone knows the democrats are in the pocket of the unions and the republicans are in the pocket of the bankers and big business. It has been that way for a long time and nobody has cared. Add in the horrible supreme court ruling where now any business from anywhere in the world can throw money at out elections and there will be so much outside money and so many special interests that no candidate will be able to avoid them.

[blackmonsters]

Originally Posted by Vendzilla

Unemployment is paid thru insurance till Obama and the democrats started extending it

I have two union pensions coming to me when I retire, Medicare is fucked up right now because of the new healthcare law, so blow it out you ass shit for brains

So now I guess you are going to tell my that Both George Bush's didn't extend it first.




Too bad you slept through life like an idiot until Obama became president and all of
a sudden you care about him doing the exact same thing the Bushes' did while you
were "asleep at the wheel".

[CurrentlySober]

i like 2012

[Vendzilla]

Originally Posted by blackmonsters

So now I guess you are going to tell my that Both George Bush's didn't extend it first.




Too bad you slept through life like an idiot until Obama became president and all of
a sudden you care about him doing the exact same thing the Bushes' did while you
were "asleep at the wheel".

So you're going to compare two 13 week extentions to whats going on now?
What a fucking moron!

[blackmonsters]

Originally Posted by Vendzilla

So you're going to compare two 13 week extentions to whats going on now?
What a fucking moron!

Bush #1 extended emergency unemployment benefits for 30 months.

In the early 1990s, former President Bush extended unemployment three times. ...

http://books.google.com/books?id=pY5...=0 CBMQ6AEwAA

Once again, you don't know the facts.

[Vendzilla]

Originally Posted by blackmonsters

Bush #1 extended emergency unemployment benefits for 30 months.




Once again, you don't know the facts.

I don't give a rats ass what president did what before we had the internet, I was talking about whats going on now you dick head

Lets get back to the question that started this thread, are you OK with the government doing deals like this for special groups?
I mean the new healthcare law had over 30 groups that bought their way out of it with exemptions, you actually think thats right? Unions making special deals to get rich, then fund money back to the democrat party?

You know being that you're too fucking stupid to comment on that

[blackmonsters]

Originally Posted by Vendzilla

I don't give a rats ass what president did what before we had the internet, I was talking about whats going on now you dick head

Lets get back to the question that started this thread, are you OK with the government doing deals like this for special groups?
I mean the new healthcare law had over 30 groups that bought their way out of it with exemptions, you actually think thats right? Unions making special deals to get rich, then fund money back to the democrat party?

You know being that you're too fucking stupid to comment on that

All you have is a big mouth with falsehoods and garbage spewing from it.

You're lazy and good for nothing except ranting.

You never have any facts correct and all your post are nothing but "hatorade" on Obama.

[PurrrsianPussyKat]

So wait a minute.. the Bush administration giving $800 billion, no strings attached to the banks.. that was just fine? Or do we just forget that because it was "in the past"?

[directfiesta]

Originally Posted by Vendzilla

I don't give a rats ass what president did what before we had the internet, I was talking about whats going on now you dick head

he always gets his nosed rubbed into real documented facts ... hilarious ...

[GatorB]

Originally Posted by Vendzilla

The unusual bankruptcy settlement for GM granted a significant portion of the company to the United Auto Workers. The union is in this game too, even though it has no investment to recoup. The UAW is selling around 18 million shares, so it stands to gain about $500 million for its pension fund ? at taxpayers? expense

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2010/11/18/gm...#ixzz15qOBPrzY

Do you wonder what the unions will do with that money in 2012?

you're a moron.

A) GM is paying back it's loan.

B) keeping GM afloat meant JOBS. That means people no longer collecting unemployment and welfare. And more people contributing to the tax base.

C) when these companies pensions go belly you you do realize that has been a government program around for DECADES that takes over the pensions. At taxpayer expense as you say. I don't see how selling stock is costing tax payers a penny.

Try educating yourself more and hating less. If someone said Obama was baby raper you believe them. Use your fucking brain.

[Barry-xlovecam]

Many persons held the common stock of General Motors PRE BANKRUPTCY ? these investors were wiped out by the bankruptcy.

These investors ran the full gamut from institutional investors, pension fund managers as well as current and retired GM employees (401K etc.)

I imagine that the aforementioned investors, encompassing the political spectrum, are vomiting at the moment ...

The class of; current and retired GM employees (401K etc) would be predominately Democrat voters ? I doubt they see Obama as their "savior" because of this ...

[BlackCrayon]

and how much money do the repubs get from big business? its all a bunch of shit in the end anyways. you can advertise as much as you want but you can't buy votes.

[raven1083]

article makes some sense on some point

[minicivan]

A massive loss of money on an investment is a success and a huge shortfall constitutes a "repayment" of a loan in Washington DC. Nothing new there.

[Vendzilla]

Originally Posted by blackmonsters

All you have is a big mouth with falsehoods and garbage spewing from it.

You're lazy and good for nothing except ranting.

You never have any facts correct and all your post are nothing but "hatorade" on Obama.

I didn't think you could answer the question

Originally Posted by PurrrsianPussyKat

So wait a minute.. the Bush administration giving $800 billion, no strings attached to the banks.. that was just fine? Or do we just forget that because it was "in the past"?

And this makes what the democrats are doing right, REALLY? Playing into the well they did it, so it's ok shit is stupid. I'm tired of all the blaming, I want the government to do something besides screw us, sorry you're too fucking stupid to see that

Originally Posted by directfiesta

he always gets his nosed rubbed into real documented facts ... hilarious ...

Hey asshat, thats the best you have? Quit being a moron, he never answered my question

Originally Posted by BlackCrayon

and how much money do the repubs get from big business? its all a bunch of shit in the end anyways. you can advertise as much as you want but you can't buy votes.

Again, this somehow makes it right? this is something that needs to stop you ignorant shit head




You guys can blame Bush all you want, I don't care, it's the democrats that the people voted out of office because they see whats going on, you guys are just too fucking stupid to see it.
It's both parties thats doing this shit, but hey, hang on to that tired rant of it's Bushs fault

[Vendzilla]

Originally Posted by GatorB

you're a moron.

A) GM is paying back it's loan.

B) keeping GM afloat meant JOBS. That means people no longer collecting unemployment and welfare. And more people contributing to the tax base.

C) when these companies pensions go belly you you do realize that has been a government program around for DECADES that takes over the pensions. At taxpayer expense as you say. I don't see how selling stock is costing tax payers a penny.

Try educating yourself more and hating less. If someone said Obama was baby raper you believe them. Use your fucking brain.

What are you fucking 12? They took away your rep button and now you try to insult me with your green sig space? What a fucking loser!

[BlackCrayon]

Originally Posted by Vendzilla

I didn't think you could answer the question



And this makes what the democrats are doing right, REALLY? Playing into the well they did it, so it's ok shit is stupid. I'm tired of all the blaming, I want the government to do something besides screw us, sorry you're too fucking stupid to see that



Hey asshat, thats the best you have? Quit being a moron, he never answered my question



Again, this somehow makes it right? this is something that needs to stop you ignorant shit head




You guys can blame Bush all you want, I don't care, it's the democrats that the people voted out of office because they see whats going on, you guys are just too fucking stupid to see it.
It's both parties thats doing this shit, but hey, hang on to that tired rant of it's Bushs fault

of course its both parties. politics is big money, no one wants small government or less taxes are you a mouth breathing retard? taxes and government jobs is their business. do you think they want to scale down their business? oh and sure the dems were voted out, just like the repubs were voted out before, and the dems before that and then the repubs before... see a trend? america is saying both parties suck and are doing DICK FUCK ALL FOR EVERYONE except those filling their pockets with more than just their tax money...

[pornguy]

None of the bail outs should have ever happened. If you own/run a business then you should be able to pay for what you produce and still have a profit. If you can not do that then you are doing something wrong.

[Vendzilla]

Originally Posted by BlackCrayon

of course its both parties. politics is big money, no one wants small government or less taxes are you a mouth breathing retard? taxes and government jobs is their business. do you think they want to scale down their business? oh and sure the dems were voted out, just like the repubs were voted out before, and the dems before that and then the repubs before... see a trend? america is saying both parties suck and are doing DICK FUCK ALL FOR EVERYONE except those filling their pockets with more than just their tax money...

It's always been my stand that I don't like either party, but I'm labeled a republican because I hate the Barry in charge, it's liberals with limited brain capacity that don't realize that independent voters are calling the shots in politics. They just continue to pass the blame instead of doing anything. Since we can't get away from the 2 party system anytime soon, a balance is the best way, Barry had full power, more than any president in decades and he pissed it away, good intentions, bad execution. The way government works has to be changed, that's what the Tea Party is about, so in that case, you are agreeing with them, welcome to sanity!

[MaDalton]

Originally Posted by Vendzilla

It's always been my stand that I don't like either party, but I'm labeled a republican because I hate the Barry in charge, it's liberals with limited brain capacity that don't realize that independent voters are calling the shots in politics. They just continue to pass the blame instead of doing anything. Since we can't get away from the 2 party system anytime soon, a balance is the best way, Barry had full power, more than any president in decades and he pissed it away, good intentions, bad execution. The way government works has to be changed, that's what the Tea Party is about, so in that case, you are agreeing with them, welcome to sanity!

agreeing with a bunch of nutcases, witches, religious fanatics, gun slingers and hypocrits is the last thing i would associate with sanity

edit: i forgot racists

[Vendzilla]

Originally Posted by MaDalton

agreeing with a bunch of nutcases, witches, religious fanatics, gun slingers and hypocrits is the last thing i would associate with sanity

edit: i forgot racists

The same could be said about the founding fathers by the english, you should get news from places other than MSNBC

[BlackCrayon]

Originally Posted by Vendzilla

It's always been my stand that I don't like either party, but I'm labeled a republican because I hate the Barry in charge, it's liberals with limited brain capacity that don't realize that independent voters are calling the shots in politics. They just continue to pass the blame instead of doing anything. Since we can't get away from the 2 party system anytime soon, a balance is the best way, Barry had full power, more than any president in decades and he pissed it away, good intentions, bad execution. The way government works has to be changed, that's what the Tea Party is about, so in that case, you are agreeing with them, welcome to sanity!

the 'tea party' (not sure why they use that name if they want to be taken seriously) seems too republican to me. where were they when bush was fucking up the country?

[tony286]

This is the republican strategy spend spend and cry about spending when they arent in charge. Now the prez being black adds to the fire. They only care about getting back into power.

[tony286]

Originally Posted by Slutboat

Vendzilla why do you advocate for the destruction of the middle class?

I like vend but he like others will vote against their best interests. The noise machine has got him and you got fox and rush to teach him to doubt all news sources but them. Its brillant really on their part.

[tony286]

When the new extreme righties start going after porn then its going to get interesting. They are all big jesus people that need to get reelected.

[Vendzilla]

Originally Posted by BlackCrayon

the 'tea party' (not sure why they use that name if they want to be taken seriously) seems too republican to me. where were they when bush was fucking up the country?

The OLD republicans don't want the Tea Party, they would change how they do things

Originally Posted by tony286

This is the republican strategy spend spend and cry about spending when they arent in charge. Now the prez being black adds to the fire. They only care about getting back into power.

Hoping with thoughts of actually ending ear marks and cutting wasteful spending, with the Tea Party staying on everyone they got voted in, I hope things will change. The republican party has not always been that way also, they did great running the house and senate during the Clinton years. Now we'll see if they can do the same under Barry.

Originally Posted by tony286

I like vend but he like others will vote against their best interests. The noise machine has got him and you got fox and rush to teach him to doubt all news sources but them. Its brillant really on their part.

Don't listen to Rush, or MSNBC, still waiting for someone to show where Fox lied about something and didn't make an apology for getting it wrong

Originally Posted by tony286

When the new extreme righties start going after porn then its going to get interesting. They are all big jesus people that need to get reelected.

This is true, except a bad economy under the democrats have closed more affiliate programs than the Bush years could

[jezebelz]

fuck it, never mind....waste of time...