Swine flu vaccine supporters...
 

crickets.......

I thought the swine flu was the next black plague... what happened?

You spread your cheeks and bend ova.
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The ONLY people I know who got the swine flu GOT the shot :helpme

We blundered over swine flu, admit health chiefs

Global health chiefs have finally admitted that they may have overreacted to the swine flu 'pandemic' - landing governments with millions of unused vaccines.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worl...#ixzz0lP9X5LoY


WHO Appoints H1N1 Cover-Up Committee

Reports that the WHO is appointing an ‘independent’ committee to investigate its own conduct in the H1N1 panic of 2009 has been tempered by the fact that one of the committee’s members, John Mackenzie, was in fact one of the advisors who urged the WHO to declare a pandemic in the first place. He also has ties to vaccine manufacturers, making him part of the very charge being investigated: that the WHO relied on advisors with a financial interest in declaring a pandemic regardless of the facts on the ground.

http://www.infowars.com/who-appoints...-up-committee/


The FDA Shuts Down Common Infant Vaccine After Startling Discovery

“U.S. federal health authorities recommended … that doctors suspend using Rotarix, one of two vaccines licensed in the U.S. against rotavirus, saying the vaccine is contaminated with material from a pig virus,” CNN reports.

http://articles.mercola.com/sites/ar...pig-virus.aspx

Do you know how many millions of dollars the feds and states wasted on flu shot ads? I would like to know that number.

I was happy to hear that more then half the SF shots here in Canada didn't get used. The Gov was trying to sell them off to Mexico last I heard.

Is Libertine still around ? lol

The best part is the our beloved leader and his fellow criminals just made it law in his sham of a health care reform bill if you aren't up to date on these "great" life ending vaccinations the private insurance company you are "forced" to buy can decline you care. This includes flu shots. Damned if you do damned if you don't, literally..

who knows what the long term effects of that Swine flu shot are? nobody...so why would anyone take something that you have no idea how it will effect you. oh yeah because the government said so...and the only people that benefited from this was the drug companies. The same ones Obama is in bed with...because his healthcare plan does nothing to lower drug costs, hospitalization, or outpatient care.

Yeah its funny that this happened, (the rotarix vaccine), I just had a kid a few days ago and the Pediatrician was telling me how important it was that my child was vaccinated and that vaccines are safe. This system is fucked. I'm not injecting my kid with any of that shit.

Yeah I noticed towards the end of the winter in boston they had lots of tv spots with celtic players obviously reading a teleprompter telling you to get vaccinated.

Denial is all in the other direction in this instance I would say. lol :1orglaugh

Where is the pandemic we were told about in order to get us to inject us and our children with some untested vaccine. lol

Thanks for posting, I agree with about 15% of what he says though.

better to be safe than sorry. the system works imo. just like a hurricane warning, flood warning, tsunami warning, etc does not mean shit WILL hit the fan, it means there is potential danger.

The CDC estimates that H1N1 has killed 12,000 Americans and put more than 265,000 in hospital.

Double that probably died from normal flu. I think its around 36,000 a year in the US die of flu complications. I'm not sure though, and I'm too lazy to research that right now.

You replied 7 minutes after I posted. The video is over 16 minutes long. You didn't watch it. As I suspected you've already got your mind made up so any kind of reason, logic or attempts to educate you are in vain. You're willfully ignorant which is the worst kind of ignorance.

i understand that, it does not mean that h1n1 is/was not a pandemic and was/is a concern.

to the degree of infuenza? no, influenza has potential to be an epidemic

but i for one am glad there is a system in place.

This is a pretty bizarre thing to celebrate.

We also have an arsenal of weapons that will most likely never ever be of use. Hundreds of billions of dollars spent on this arsenal of weapons. I would rather have it and not need it, than need it and not have it.

For a people that is so far advanced in health, why is america a nation on the most drugs? How many vaccines / drugs / procedures were accepted as safe and administered to people, only to be outlawed further down the line? How many things that my doctor is telling me safe today, will be recalled off the shelves tomorrow?

Health is not profitable, only sickness.
The profit aspect of healthcare, takes the care out of it, therefore I don't trust them.

an expression comes to mind-

throwing the baby out with the bath water.

this.

is simply not true.

tons and tons and tons and tons of people and companies make money from health.

I do agree with you to an extent, but when it comes down the the bottom line of profit, you're trying to sell your product. No matter if you own a vitamin store, or you're Merck. So if a dentist is telling me i need a tooth pulled, I don't know if he's trying to pay off his house or if I really need my tooth pulled. Guess the problem isn't healthcare itself, but the need to turn a profit to survive.

Please link to the potion of the bill that states this.

The problem is that this is the flu we are talking about. As people have pointed out, when a strain of the flu comes around that people do not have any immunity to, there is the potential for a pandemic. There have been several of these with tragic consequences.

This was a learning experience. Nobody can argue the fact that it was expensive and of course as we have seen, the pandemic did not materialize as expected.

I don't think there was a way to predict that this would not be a pandemic.

It takes time to produce vaccine, so if people waited to see if a pandemic developed before they spent the money to start development and distribution they would not have had enough when it was needed.

see my sig

And had nothing been done and it really ended up being a major pandemic then the government would have taken some serious heat. It is one of those things were you are damned if you do and damned if you don't.

To the best of my knowledge it met all of the criteria for being a pandemic and in fact was a pandemic...but was not as serious of a killer as they thought it might be...but those that it did kill was different then seasonal flu...as it generally killed the young and healthy where as seasonal flu generally targets the older population and unhealthy.

kane you're a lost cause. I could show you a glass off water after days in the middle of the dessert and you'd call it sand. Chew on that for awhile..

You love to make all kinds of claims. I'm just asking for proof. If you read it yourself you should know where it is and so it shouldn't be too hard to find.

There was no pandemic it was a fraud and a conspiracy. Period.. Every President since 1933 has to declare a national emergency so they can continue the rule by secret dictatorship.. Now they are trying it on a World scale. Fool me once.. It's game over.. Liars, cheaters, and thieves you are protecting. Which makes you no better..

Then why haven't they just declared a national emergency near the end of their second term and stayed in power? There was a conspiracy that there would be a terrorist attack on US soil near the time for the 2008 election so that Bush could declare a state of emergency, cancel the election and stay in power. And, of course, it didn't happen.

Kind of like the treaty that was supposed to be signed in Denmark giving the rule of the US people over to a one world government that didn't happen.

Kind of like how you said 6 months ago during the G9 summit that the riot control was simply a way to acclimate the US people to having cops on the street and we would have that in every city and live in a police state within 6 months. And, of course, it didn't happen.

I'm seeing a pattern here.

Tell me then, why has no president just declared this state of emergency near the end of his presidency and stayed in power?

Seeing patterns?

They have to declare a national emergency to continue the rule by secret dictatorship, like I said..

Since 1933, the US has been RULED under a secret dictatorship... The CORPORATION also known as the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA has been at WAR with the people... To continue said WAR they must declare a national emergency. All you have to do is READ...

You didn't answer his question which is also a pattern with you.

Because Roosevelt who was the one who signed into "law" the WAR did that and it caused controversy. So they pass the baton. On to the next one...

So they declare a national emergency to rule by secret dictatorship then step down when the next person gets elected? Doesn't makes much sense. Or is it that these presidents are simply figureheads of this corporation? But if that were the case there would be no need for a national emergency declaration because they would just select the next person, he takes office and things continue on as normal.

None of this makes any sense. Either there is a secret group of people running the show and doing as they please from behind the scenes, or there isn't. If there is then they should have no reason to play by the rules or to come up with some kind of strange stipulations as to why things happen.

BTW still waiting on the link to the part of the health care bill that shows anyone who doesn't get the proper vaccinations will be declined.

Okay, now this doesn't make sense on a whole different level. Primarily it is not a real sentence.

Let's break it down. I'm assuming you are missing a period in the middle.

So it should read:

"Because Roosevelt who was the one who signed into "law". " - Okay, great, Roosevelt signed something into law. Got that much.

Then:
"The WAR did that and it caused controversy. So they pass the baton. On to the next one..." I assume this means that the WAR was the cause of the controversy, but maybe the WAR was the cause of him signing whatever it was that he signed into law. He then passed the baton. However, he would have passed the baton anyway to the next president, so maybe I am missing something here.

And I'm not sure how Jay-Z got involved in all of this :)

Roosevelt signed the War Powers Act of 1933... Which declared the American People enemies. YOU are a enemy of the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, a corporation. Why? To pay the corporations debt.. And because of what they were about to do which is seize the gold and create "laws" > statutes to extract money from the population to pay said debt which are nothing more than company policy. And you are the employee.. The corporation continues to spend beyond its means so it must come up with new SCAMS to extract money from the population. Such as Health Care and Cap and Trade... Jay-Z is a sellout and he fits in to the "on to the next one" and quite frankly i wanted to hear some music. Good enough?