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TheSenator 11-01-2010 10:56 AM

If a affiliate program misses a payment, should you get...
 
Some type of "sorry about that issue here is a bonus" or "sorry" and move on.

or take it as business as usual.

brassmonkey 11-01-2010 11:01 AM

a sorry maybe why would you get a bonus??

Sam - Mr. Skin 11-01-2010 11:01 AM

For me it just depends. What was the reason for the missed payment? How quickly did you notify them and then how quickly did they resolve and send out the payment?

epitome 11-01-2010 11:02 AM

A sorry, but no bonus.

I knew that other thread about mail time from Toronto to NJ was about a sponsor payment...........

TheSenator 11-01-2010 11:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by epitome (Post 17658945)
A sorry, but no bonus.

I knew that other thread about mail time from Toronto to NJ was about a sponsor payment...........

You are quick.


I don't really care about the bonus.


So, if a program misses payment for two periods, its ok and business as usual?

Ross 11-01-2010 11:21 AM

Totally depends on the response as to why its late/missing. I personally would be happy to get my money, no bonus needed other than if it was bounced checks and it caused you financial penalties.

Agent 488 11-01-2010 11:22 AM

lots of payments missing or late after epass. some companies didn't miss a beat however.

epitome 11-01-2010 11:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSenator (Post 17658982)
You are quick.


I don't really care about the bonus.


So, if a program misses payment for two periods, its ok and business as usual?

It really does depend on the program.

I know someone with many millions in assets who at one point this year had his power shut off and was being declined for $6 meals.

Cash flow issues.

He has since rebounded and is fine ... it was a single hiccup in 16 years ...

Sometimes shit happens. You have to get to the bottom of things.

RyuLion 11-01-2010 11:31 AM

7 days late and once a year is ok, but when it happens often, then I worry about it.

TheSenator 11-01-2010 11:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by epitome (Post 17659021)
It really does depend on the program.

I know someone with many millions in assets who at one point this year had his power shut off and was being declined for $6 meals.

Cash flow issues.

He has since rebounded and is fine ... it was a single hiccup in 16 years ...

Sometimes shit happens. You have to get to the bottom of things.

Well, that sounds personal and I would never expect that kind of information from a program owner.

I would want a straight answer and something to re-insure my insecurities about the affiliate program.

TheSenator 11-01-2010 11:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RyuLion (Post 17659036)
7 days late and once a year is ok, but when it happens often, then I worry about it.

Is "often" the keyword when a program is living week by week?

Chosen 11-01-2010 01:44 PM

With some programs you won't even get "sorry", and you can consider yourself lucky if you get paid at all...

bDok 11-01-2010 02:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSenator (Post 17658923)
Some type of "sorry about that issue here is a bonus" or "sorry" and move on.

or take it as business as usual.

A sorry at least I'd hope. If it's a program I'm super regular with then a little bonus would be nice. Like hey I know you pump serious traffic at us day in and day out.

Sorry though at least. Just goes a long way in my book at least.

docputer 11-01-2010 02:29 PM

Some programs were put in a bind with funds tied up in Webmaster Checks and then Epassporte. Perhaps it is just a short term cash flow issue, but I would think the sponsor would be better served by sending out an apology if they missed a pay date.

TheSenator 11-01-2010 07:24 PM

I personally get offended and take it as a sign of disrespect.

What if someone owed you money and you saw them out a bar buying shots?

IllTestYourGirls 11-01-2010 07:29 PM

Ive been paid good bonus for late payments before

Agent 488 11-01-2010 09:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSenator (Post 17661532)
I personally get offended and take it as a sign of disrespect.

What if someone owed you money and you saw them out a bar buying shots?

hit them in the face?

will76 11-01-2010 09:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSenator (Post 17658923)
Some type of "sorry about that issue here is a bonus" or "sorry" and move on.

or take it as business as usual.

I'd be happy if I were you just to have them send it and to get paid the way things are going these days.

TheSenator 11-02-2010 09:34 AM

So, how long should I wait before bugging an affiliate program for payment?

I have not been paid in 33 days.

Agent 488 11-02-2010 09:38 AM

dude the reality is now most companies only pay if you harass them. it's your money, do what you have to do.

Davy 11-02-2010 09:58 AM

If they owe you, then harrass them.
But make sure that you are not overlooking anything (for example some ridiculously long hold-times or a check in your PO box that you never empty...).

fatfoo 11-02-2010 10:11 AM

If a payment is delayed, I think it should be paid in the future with interest.

signupdamnit 11-02-2010 01:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSenator (Post 17663331)
So, how long should I wait before bugging an affiliate program for payment?

I have not been paid in 33 days.

Screw that.

7 - 14 days late without firm statement that payment has been resent/will be resolved with firm date established = stop all new promotion

30 days late without firm date no more than one week away = Pull all links.

45 days late = "Name and shame"

Possible exceptions only if they've been honest and upfront the entire time. Likewise if you catch them in any lie or they fail to meet a commitment to send payment after initial contact, pull all links immediately and never go back even if they do finally pay.

Too many affiliates do nothing and I think that only contributes to the problem. I sent the joins, I expect to be paid ON TIME. Especially on revshare. You should never have to beg for your money. :2 cents:

TheSenator 11-02-2010 02:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by signupdamnit (Post 17664541)
Screw that.

7 - 14 days late without firm statement that payment has been resent/will be resolved with firm date established = stop all new promotion

30 days late without firm date no more than one week away = Pull all links.

45 days late = "Name and shame"

Possible exceptions only if they've been honest and upfront the entire time. Likewise if you catch them in any lie or they fail to meet a commitment to send payment after initial contact, pull all links immediately and never go back even if they do finally pay.

Too many affiliates do nothing and I think that only contributes to the problem. I sent the joins, I expect to be paid ON TIME. Especially on revshare. You should never have to beg for your money. :2 cents:


I hate asking for money that is owed to me. It puts me in an awkward position of asking an affiliate rep to ask his boss if he cut a check or not. Most of the time the affiliate rep has no clue or control if payment was sent.

TheSenator 11-03-2010 09:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSenator (Post 17663331)
So, how long should I wait before bugging an affiliate program for payment?

I have not been paid in 33 days.


I have not been paid in 34 days and going on three pay periods missed.


Shit....I guess the checks never went out.

signupdamnit 11-03-2010 10:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSenator (Post 17667439)
I have not been paid in 34 days and going on three pay periods missed.


Shit....I guess the checks never went out.

Hopefully you've at least asked them about it? I usually ask at about 7 - 14 days late.

2intense 11-03-2010 10:17 AM

bonus bonus bonus :1orglaugh

TheSenator 11-03-2010 10:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by signupdamnit (Post 17667500)
Hopefully you've at least asked them about it? I usually ask at about 7 - 14 days late.

One program underpaid me for 4 periods that added up to a few thousand. My affiliate rep was sick and never got back to me. I finally got a hold of another rep and he took care of my situation by instantly paying through ACH.


The other program has a well known "bro" of the the "bros" affiliate rep. He has known of my situation for awhile now.

Platinumpimp 11-03-2010 10:48 AM

An apology would do for me also, if it's not overdue for too many days...

TheSenator 11-03-2010 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Platinumpimp (Post 17667623)
An apology would do for me also, if it's not overdue for too many days...

If this can happen to me, this can happen to any affiliate.

I would like an apology, maybe a t-shirt, gift card, etc.

TheSenator 11-03-2010 04:22 PM

I also take interest

V_RocKs 11-03-2010 04:30 PM

I expect a bonus. Some programs have paid me bonuses or made it up to me with perhaps a bonus unreleased content package I can promote their girl with before everyone else...

But I expect something in return.

TheSenator 11-04-2010 10:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by V_RocKs (Post 17669032)
I expect a bonus. Some programs have paid me bonuses or made it up to me with perhaps a bonus unreleased content package I can promote their girl with before everyone else...

But I expect something in return.

I am going on 35 days without being paid.

What is a fair amount of "bonus" should I get?

NetHorse 11-04-2010 01:25 PM

An early payment after a late one is always nice. :) As for "interest"..:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

trevesty 11-18-2010 11:55 AM

Being privy to the situation at hand, having similar situation happen to me, and knowing how much volume you send first hand..


I'd say at least 3 quality hookers, $500 cash, and a very well thought out apology letter.

TheSenator 11-18-2010 11:57 AM

If an affiliate program misses payment on a consistent basis does it mean they are about to go under?

iSpyCams 11-18-2010 05:51 PM

You should be ready to switch sponsors at a moment's notice.

Your sponsors are buying traffic from you on credit. If they were asking for a loan, how much would you loan them? Don't let them accumulate more than that.

If payment is one second later than you are comfortable with, redirect your traffic to someone else until they get within the risk factors that you are comfortable with.

Once they are back within acceptable limits, start sending traffic again.

If I have a sponsor behind by one payment I insist on a firm commitment to get current. Two payments and traffic comes to a screeching halt.

Not that they notice, or are necessarily hurt by this, the point is not to punish them, the point is simply that my margin is only about 10-15% on joins and I cant afford to pour money down a hole.

Continuing to provide traffic to a non paying sponsor simply proves your powerlessness and dependence on them.

So stop being a parasite, get the power, then wield the power.

HomerSimpson 11-18-2010 06:07 PM

you'd be lucky if you get your cash in these days...

signupdamnit 11-18-2010 06:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSenator (Post 17709555)
If an affiliate program misses payment on a consistent basis does it mean they are about to go under?

Get the fuck outta there. :2 cents:

Machete_ 11-18-2010 06:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSenator (Post 17658923)
Some type of "sorry about that issue here is a bonus" or "sorry" and move on.

or take it as business as usual.

nowadays, affiliate should consider oneself lucky to get paid at all

iSpyCams 11-18-2010 08:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSenator (Post 17709555)
If an affiliate program misses payment on a consistent basis does it mean they are about to go under?

It doesn't matter. If they do that stop promoting them and then who fucking cares if they go under?

icymelon 11-18-2010 09:39 PM

if an affiliate program misses a payment you should take your links down. cause the next step is usually 2 missed payments.

TheSenator 11-19-2010 09:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pompousjohn (Post 17710616)
You should be ready to switch sponsors at a moment's notice.

Your sponsors are buying traffic from you on credit. If they were asking for a loan, how much would you loan them? Don't let them accumulate more than that.

If payment is one second later than you are comfortable with, redirect your traffic to someone else until they get within the risk factors that you are comfortable with.

Once they are back within acceptable limits, start sending traffic again.

If I have a sponsor behind by one payment I insist on a firm commitment to get current. Two payments and traffic comes to a screeching halt.

Not that they notice, or are necessarily hurt by this, the point is not to punish them, the point is simply that my margin is only about 10-15% on joins and I cant afford to pour money down a hole.

Continuing to provide traffic to a non paying sponsor simply proves your powerlessness and dependence on them.

So stop being a parasite, get the power, then wield the power.

Its so hard to pull links because the people behind the scenes are nice and helpful.


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