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Arnox · 12-19-2009, 07:47 PM

I run 3 blogs and that's about as far as I've gotten in understanding websites. I'm sort of looking for a good money estimate to get my site off of the ground. This is what I'm thinking so far:

- I need a coder to create the website/graphics artist to make it look snazy.
- I need hosting
- I need to create a billing system (I heard it costs close to $600, is this true? Are there ways around it?)
- I need to create an affiliate program (Are these hard to get coded?)

That's all I can think of so far. The content is coming for free so I have that side covered. I also assume I'm going to have to blow a few thousand in adverts just to get the ball rolling.

Prices, ideas, suggestions, etc etc. Please do share - I'm totally new to this.

Bhunter · 12-20-2009, 01:07 PM

there is no money in paysites unless you become succesful in being an affiliate or have some very deep pockets to waste

busta21 · 12-20-2009, 02:50 PM

CC Bill has a $700 visa fee, you cant get around it. Your site, coding etc should run about $5000-$10,000. Hosting is about $250 a month. I would say expect to drop a minimum of $80,000 to get it profitable. I agree w/ B hunget to some extent, you need a ton of cash to play with the big boys and the content needs to be legit.

AIbenjamink · 12-20-2009, 04:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by busta21

CC Bill has a $700 visa fee, you cant get around it. Your site, coding etc should run about $5000-$10,000. Hosting is about $250 a month. I would say expect to drop a minimum of $80,000 to get it profitable. I agree w/ B hunget to some extent, you need a ton of cash to play with the big boys and the content needs to be legit.

You can definitely get started with a budget much smaller than this.

Search around for reputable billing providers who waive the visa fee, or simply use CCBill without the Visa option until you can afford it.

Your design will obviously range in price, depending on your specifications. You could expect to pay less than $5000.

Lastly, shop around for hosting, you can expect to pay much less than $250 per month.

DefaultMan · 12-20-2009, 04:46 PM

I would suggest going with CCBill and be ready to put in some serious hard work before you start seeing a profit. As long as your content is hot and exclusive it shouldn't as impossible as a lot of people on GFY make it seem to be.

Good luck

busta21 · 12-20-2009, 07:58 PM

I guess it depends on how much money you want to make with it, what are the average costs you guys have seen for pay sites who gross $1mm+ a year after 2 years?

Arnox · 12-21-2009, 12:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DefaultMan

I would suggest going with CCBill and be ready to put in some serious hard work before you start seeing a profit. As long as your content is hot and exclusive it shouldn't as impossible as a lot of people on GFY make it seem to be.

Good luck

The content is unique and in my time reviewing websites I've not come across a site in the same 'niche'. I hope that's a selling point that boosts my chances.

CPimp · 12-21-2009, 01:08 AM

good luck dude, good luck.

Xer0 · 12-21-2009, 01:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by busta21

CC Bill has a $700 visa fee, you cant get around it. Your site, coding etc should run about $5000-$10,000. Hosting is about $250 a month. I would say expect to drop a minimum of $80,000 to get it profitable. I agree w/ B hunget to some extent, you need a ton of cash to play with the big boys and the content needs to be legit.

You can certainly get started for much less than this.
Many of the pioneering sites on the net were born with minimal investment...

All you need to worry about is Quality of content. These days, it's all about HD and video.
Additionally - you'll need to create a good affiliate scheme if you want traffic.

Good luck!
If you need a Web Developer you can get in touch using my ICQ.

livecarlo · 12-21-2009, 11:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arnox

I run 3 blogs and that's about as far as I've gotten in understanding websites. I'm sort of looking for a good money estimate to get my site off of the ground. This is what I'm thinking so far:

- I need a coder to create the website/graphics artist to make it look snazy.
- I need hosting
- I need to create a billing system (I heard it costs close to $600, is this true? Are there ways around it?)
- I need to create an affiliate program (Are these hard to get coded?)

That's all I can think of so far. The content is coming for free so I have that side covered. I also assume I'm going to have to blow a few thousand in adverts just to get the ball rolling.

Prices, ideas, suggestions, etc etc. Please do share - I'm totally new to this.

You know how to run a blog? Cool, then get this free Worpress paysite plug-in and check out the other resources on adult-help.com. If you want something better you can lease CARMA, MPA3, Adult Paysite CMS and there's a few others.

Upload your content and add all the necessary storylines or whatever.

Hire someone to customize the website design for you. Lots of designers on here are looking for steady work, so work out a deal with someone where you can pay them monthly. You'll need your website designed, banners, FHGs... Minimalisticly you would just have to change the header image for a couple hundred bucks.

Sign-up with Zombaio using the link in my signature. They will handle your payment processing and affiliates for no setup fee. Sure lots of affiliates don't like them cus their new but you can always find another biller when you have a better handle on the situation. Also, their affiliate system is getting better everyday, they've touched up loads of stuff this past month.

If you go with CCbill, use CCBtools for your affiliate system.

Use your blogs to drive traffic to the site, if you get sales invest more money in your design, paysite tours, or marketing.

What kind of content will you have? Also, promote Trike Patrol on you blogs =)

busta21 · 12-21-2009, 01:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xer0

You can certainly get started for much less than this.
Many of the pioneering sites on the net were born with minimal investment...

All you need to worry about is Quality of content. These days, it's all about HD and video.
Additionally - you'll need to create a good affiliate scheme if you want traffic.

Good luck!
If you need a Web Developer you can get in touch using my ICQ.

What do you mean about affilate scheme? As far as the payouts go etc or?????

just-nude · 12-21-2009, 03:06 PM

i think 50,000-60,000 will be enough for beginning
use segpay

Xer0 · 12-21-2009, 03:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by busta21

What do you mean about affilate scheme? As far as the payouts go etc or?????

Yeah - to get things going it'll help if you have a good payment scheme.
Something like 50/50 recurring.

busta21 · 12-21-2009, 07:10 PM

what do you think about hosted TPG's? Ive talked to about 5 diff. people some say 100+ is the way to go, others say its ok to start with 10-20. I dont see how it would be realistic to start with that many at first- but they didnt have a good answer for that....

Xer0 · 12-22-2009, 08:46 AM

I'm not really an expert when it comes to TGP's - so maybe someone else can help answer this question. My skills are more to do with Web Design/Development and SEO.

With that said - if I have understood your question. You could bring up the number of galleries by buying cheap quality content that fits with your niche. Mix it with your content and send traffic accordingly. Perhaps consider a network of TGPs/Blogs... Then spread the linkage from each site.

This should at least help with credibility and SEO if done well.
I would recommend reaching out to other webmasters of TGPs to boost traffic.

Again - I'm no expert in the TGP business. But I do understand that to become successful in this business takes good networking.

livecarlo · 12-22-2009, 10:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by busta21

what do you think about hosted TPG's? Ive talked to about 5 diff. people some say 100+ is the way to go, others say its ok to start with 10-20. I dont see how it would be realistic to start with that many at first- but they didnt have a good answer for that....

I think you mean Free Hosted Galleries (FHGs) look at the post below for your answer. They're pretty easy to make once ya get the hang of it.

http://www.gfy.com/showpost.php?p=16584880&postcount=10

ez12 · 12-22-2009, 11:37 AM

1. The design
Its important that you know what kinda look you want your paysite to have. When you hire a designer you specifically need to know what kind off design you want. This will make it easy for you and the designer and means that you'll need to spend less on a designer.

2. The content
You seem to have your own content, so that is a big +. Make sure that you have enough to keep your members on board and enough to give your affiliates to use to promote your site.

3. Hosting
You need dedicated hosting if you want to take it seriously.. Take your time to check out all the options and add a lot of hosting providers on your ICQ. Simply talk and find out what they think you need. Compare the prices and packages. Check the reps on webmasterboards like GFY.

Just my 2cts

Naechy · 12-25-2009, 08:24 AM

Don`t do that

bbobby86 · 12-25-2009, 09:47 AM

you need a lot of free time...

badpuma · 01-24-2010, 01:18 AM

If you don't act now while it's fresh in your mind, it will probably join the list of things you were always going to do but never quite got around to. Chances are you'll also miss some opportunities.

designerscode · 01-24-2010, 03:35 AM

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Lassitor · 01-24-2010, 09:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arnox

I run 3 blogs and that's about as far as I've gotten in understanding websites. I'm sort of looking for a good money estimate to get my site off of the ground. This is what I'm thinking so far:

- I need a coder to create the website/graphics artist to make it look snazy.
- I need hosting
- I need to create a billing system (I heard it costs close to $600, is this true? Are there ways around it?)
- I need to create an affiliate program (Are these hard to get coded?)

That's all I can think of so far. The content is coming for free so I have that side covered. I also assume I'm going to have to blow a few thousand in adverts just to get the ball rolling.

Prices, ideas, suggestions, etc etc. Please do share - I'm totally new to this.

You can't sell what you don't have. Create or buy exclusive content. Post a few samples to GFY and see if the community has the will to promote the content. If you get a good response then go for the paysite.

Creating content is a lot harder done than said. You need to first find attractive and willing models, that is not easy. Then you need to find a photographer who hows what they are doing....and that is harder than finding a willing model. Then you need someone who is a good retouch artist in photoshop to make the models that much more appealing. If you are doing video then you need to find someone with some good gear and who knows what they are doing as well.

There are a LOT of amateurs in this game, and they cry because what they shoot is poor quality all the way around and it does not sell. There is lots of mediocre porn for free out there that smokes the amateur stuff. You have to excel beyond that before anyone will drop a dime to see more of what you have.

Lassitor · 01-24-2010, 10:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by busta21

what do you think about hosted TPG's? Ive talked to about 5 diff. people some say 100+ is the way to go, others say its ok to start with 10-20. I dont see how it would be realistic to start with that many at first- but they didnt have a good answer for that....

TPG's only feeds the teens who don't have credit cards, and the guys surfing for free porn. You will need an amazing number of TPG's and massive traffic to make anything out of it...and even with that the ROI is going to be very low and with the current economy I suspect it a negative return.

A TPG with a particular niche may work...like toe sucking, foot tugging or such. But that content is difficult to find and you most likely will have to create it.

moyofun · 01-25-2010, 04:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by badpuma

If you don't act now while it's fresh in your mind, it will probably join the list of things you were always going to do but never quite got around to. Chances are you'll also miss some opportunities.

Right

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Grisey · 01-30-2010, 06:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arnox

- I need to create an affiliate program (Are these hard to get coded?)

No they aren't man we run www.script5.com and can help you set up your affiliate programme

ezgirl · 02-01-2010, 07:07 PM

Free content? You get what you pay for.

shmae · 02-03-2010, 11:57 AM

I just started up a paysite this past summer, and I haven't been able to quit my day job yet, but we are making some money. But those dudes are right, you need to have at least $10,000 to get started. If you use your money smart, you can get away with a lot. Check out Dreamhost for hosting, they offer a great deal, and nearly unlimited bandwidth and storage space. But your site can't have any of the nasty niches.

As for credit card processing, check out Zombaio. They are good, and you don't have any start up fees.

I've heard from a lot of people that you can still make money from subscribers sites, but it takes around three years to really start making that money.

And don't forget about clips4sale and other options to make cash.

HAPPYPEEKERS · 02-03-2010, 09:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arnox

I run 3 blogs and that's about as far as I've gotten in understanding websites. I'm sort of looking for a good money estimate to get my site off of the ground. This is what I'm thinking so far:

- I need a coder to create the website/graphics artist to make it look snazy.
- I need hosting
- I need to create a billing system (I heard it costs close to $600, is this true? Are there ways around it?)
- I need to create an affiliate program (Are these hard to get coded?)

That's all I can think of so far. The content is coming for free so I have that side covered. I also assume I'm going to have to blow a few thousand in adverts just to get the ball rolling.

Prices, ideas, suggestions, etc etc. Please do share - I'm totally new to this.

For website design I would highly recommend http://libertyofmind.com/

They are seriously Amazing!

webgurl · 02-04-2010, 12:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by busta21

CC Bill has a $700 visa fee, you cant get around it. Your site, coding etc should run about $5000-$10,000. Hosting is about $250 a month. I would say expect to drop a minimum of $80,000 to get it profitable. I agree w/ B hunget to some extent, you need a ton of cash to play with the big boys and the content needs to be legit.

I been paysite owner , affilate programer since 2005 you are soooo wrong ,
even this day and age you don't need 80k startup or to make it profitable

However , to the guy who is thinking about making a paysite . Do your research
on what kind of paysite you want to do , how you are going to get traffic . This
is not the 90's anymore it is HARD to make $$$ unless you got something incredible.
Just advice , if you are planning to just make a cookie cutter teen , milf , big tits ,
site , you better have some damn good unique exclusive content . Otherwise , it
will be very difficult for you to make cash .

goodluck

John. · 02-07-2010, 08:51 AM

decent thread

fatfoo · 02-07-2010, 01:50 PM

Billing systems are expensive - that is true.

busta21 · 02-21-2010, 12:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by webgurl

I been paysite owner , affilate programer since 2005 you are soooo wrong ,
even this day and age you don't need 80k startup or to make it profitable

However , to the guy who is thinking about making a paysite . Do your research
on what kind of paysite you want to do , how you are going to get traffic . This
is not the 90's anymore it is HARD to make $$$ unless you got something incredible.
Just advice , if you are planning to just make a cookie cutter teen , milf , big tits ,
site , you better have some damn good unique exclusive content . Otherwise , it
will be very difficult for you to make cash .

goodluck

I hope your right....however when I started developing our site a year ago it was because I was tired of paying $20-$30 bucks a month for girls who were not hot, played out and just horrible fake orgasms. Im sure you can make a site with $15-$30 grand, but I dont think in any way you would be able to create GOOD content with hot 18-23 year old girls. This could also come from me growing up in Scottsdale and then living in Southern California for the last 5 years where the girls just dont get any hotter, so that being said maybe my standars are higher.

amvcdotcom · 02-24-2010, 10:28 PM

Be methodical and build up a brand/following for yourself first. The blogs are a good start, assuming that it's you you're promoting. Do a press release to AVN and other media that you're giving something away....a free camshow of your tits or something (I'm gay and don't know what these crazy breeders want these days

Make some clips and put on Clips4sale and other clips sites....the whole time getting your brand out there, a following, and hopefully some cash to fund a bigger project like a paysite

brassmonkey · 03-01-2010, 09:13 AM

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webgurl · 03-01-2010, 10:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by busta21

I hope your right....however when I started developing our site a year ago it was because I was tired of paying $20-$30 bucks a month for girls who were not hot, played out and just horrible fake orgasms.

pardon moi ? paying 20-30 dollars for a month doing photo shoots or what exactly . The cost of any models showing up is triple that never the less ,
getting them to do anything . Plz elaborate on what exactly u were paying 20-30 bucks a month for ?

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12-19-2009, 07:47 PM	#1
Arnox Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Radelaide Posts: 2,166	So I'm thinking of creating a paysite I run 3 blogs and that's about as far as I've gotten in understanding websites. I'm sort of looking for a good money estimate to get my site off of the ground. This is what I'm thinking so far: - I need a coder to create the website/graphics artist to make it look snazy. - I need hosting - I need to create a billing system (I heard it costs close to $600, is this true? Are there ways around it?) - I need to create an affiliate program (Are these hard to get coded?) That's all I can think of so far. The content is coming for free so I have that side covered. I also assume I'm going to have to blow a few thousand in adverts just to get the ball rolling. Prices, ideas, suggestions, etc etc. Please do share - I'm totally new to this. __________________ Need Text? X Copywriters \| Adult Writing Service - [email protected]

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12-20-2009, 02:50 PM	#3
busta21 Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: LA Posts: 175	CC Bill has a $700 visa fee, you cant get around it. Your site, coding etc should run about $5000-$10,000. Hosting is about $250 a month. I would say expect to drop a minimum of $80,000 to get it profitable. I agree w/ B hunget to some extent, you need a ton of cash to play with the big boys and the content needs to be legit.

12-20-2009, 07:58 PM	#6
busta21 Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: LA Posts: 175	I guess it depends on how much money you want to make with it, what are the average costs you guys have seen for pay sites who gross $1mm+ a year after 2 years?

12-21-2009, 07:10 PM	#14
busta21 Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: LA Posts: 175	what do you think about hosted TPG's? Ive talked to about 5 diff. people some say 100+ is the way to go, others say its ok to start with 10-20. I dont see how it would be realistic to start with that many at first- but they didnt have a good answer for that....

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