Just a suggestion, but why don't both of yall just cut the public cat fight out and get back to work? Frisk, do what you tryin' to do to feel a lil important already and post the results (with proof) when you done so we can all flame you on why you fucked up by sending the wrong kind of traffic to the wrong pages and shit. Choke, save the excuses for later and just let the muh fucka buy your traffic and keep it movin' 'till he posts the results... then you can use your damn excuses. :1orglaugh

it makes sense. less catfight and more work

Surely all the sources need to be sending at the same time for a proper comparison.

You can compare traffic only if sending to a same web page. Cam sites change models online depending on time, may land on different model at same time on a random choser, and model change view every landing of every guy even if after a minute you get the same girl showing tits or gone away to pee and an empty sofa there, will convert worst then a minute before, you see?
Additionally, choker have dozens of niches, and you can blocklist some sites (example, will you blacklist shemale sites or not, etc.), so the configuration of filters can change it all.

Cam sites themselves (not the affiliates, the cam site) sure know what traffic converts best but will not share such information in GFY, especially if you find a good source you hope the other cam site not buy it (making it scarce availability ormore expensive), also you always hope the competitor will waste money in crap traffic so you not to warn others where the crap it is.

For example I buy from choker, trafficshop, trafficholder and others for my cam site(s) which is not a whitelabel and I not give white labels to affiliates and I have all my data but sorry I don't share. I can say I still buy from choker so unless I am a complete idiot, it converted better then something else (considering the else may cost half per K must convert more then double it). Of course the search engine or cam plugin in member area converts some 10,000 times better, still there's not a broker who send you "member area traffic" in thousands, you have to go lick the ass of each program owner to put you in the member area and this is so boring I prefer pay brute force dollars to traffic brokers :)

So do you buy from choker or no?

The reason frisky started this was because he believes he will receive 500,000 hits and not a single sale. Not a "honing" of landing pages and traffic should have converted a little better but not a fuckin' sale.

That is what firsky is sayin' and reason he started this.

Do some people actually expect to learn something from this?

Only a total idiot would make money from something then run to a forum to tell everyone about it so they could copy it. They'll say nothing or they'll say it failed.

Likewise, if they make nothing or lose money doing it they'll just tell everyone they made shitloads - not just because that's what everyone says here (especially about their sigs), but in the hope their 'rivals' waste money on something that doesn't work.

There's an easy and guaranteed way for anyone to find out if traffic works for them - buy some and see.

any results coming in? :D

This side bet is all moot!

Frisky doesn't have a stand alone camgirls site.

Back to the original bet with 5 CamGirls sites!

And like everyone said, you'll need 500 days, not 5 days to isolate the revenue.

Or you can setup NATS on a Streamate W/L and do the tracking.

So he said "no whitelabel" and all 5 brokers at the same time?
Whats so difficult there?

Yeah the conditions were very clear, no whitelabels, send to 5 brokers at the same time to the same site.

Cool thanks!

yep, mine does decent :thumbsup

My excuses? Lol

1. He agreed to buy from 5 different brokers at the same time, He's not.
2. He agreed to no whitelabels. He's sending to his own whitelabel site.

I agreed to a fair comparison test with me and 4 other brokers. This is not what he's doing , now is it? No skin off me teeth. He's buying $400 of traffic from me, his whitelabel looks like shit but hey I don't care, he's not even sending to a good page. He's actually sending to the worst page possible. He is purposly trying to NOT get signups so he can say look how shitty Chokers traffic is. Anyone who does not see this is blind.

Here was the initial post made by choker.
And here is the original post, for those who missed it.
https://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=1019143

Oh and this:
After a while people started messing with him, challenging him etc. he initial post was for 4 or 5 companies.

Sorry to chime in and what not but I was eagerly awaiting the results for the initial contest for this reason.

Which makes this exercise all the more pointless.

Is he sending it to BBW models link? What site is he sending it to? Can we take a look?

:2 cents:

You need to send the traffic from all brokers at once, for example end of April conversions are amazing compared to May. So it is not a fair comparison if you send them one after the other.

Basically just spending $400 to have the right to say his traffic doesn't convert? lol :Oh crap

Hopefully Choker is still going through with his own test he initially started.

Exactly, not to mention he's not sending to the sort of page i recomended, on his teaser chat you can't chat with models unless you make a account. (yeah I know many cam site owners will defend this, but with bought traffic this converts for shit) Myfreecams sites is what converts good with this traffic. Not to mention the domain name is myfreeporncams.com so surfers are expecting a myfreecams sorta site, but they get a pay whitelabel isntead. Shows and proves how Frisky doesn't know his ass from a hole in the ground. And he's buying a niche that is not gonna work. It's his $400 he's spending.

I think Frisky is truly clueless, I doubt he can afford to blow $400 just to make a point.

Considering that he claims to be a successful it took an extraordinary long time to scrape that money together...

He would pawn whatever he has in his 1 bedroom studio in order to make a attempt to hurt my business. His hatred of me is that strong, I'm not joking here. He blames me for losing his page 1 spots on google which prolly cost him 6 figures in income. Now that I think about it, I can't really blame him for hating me that much.

what did you do again to cost him those spots?

Did I win that 100 dollar contest?

I have to pay for a hooker and I really need the money.

I won't defend that, I actually agree with it.

Sign up before chat greatly reduces your chances of interesting somebody.

Your april join date is obvious in this post. Unless you are just trolling.

Jack Sparrow = Frisky, (look at his sig)

Fris = Fris

I made a death pool post on gfy predicting when his sites would get google bitchslapped. Some guys posted links to report him to google in that thread, my intention was not for anyone to report him to google. Eric closed the thread but not before warning me that I was breaking the rules, I guess Eric considered that thread me breaking the "inciting others to attack someone" rule. Thing is google had already started slapping his sites days before I made that post. Many said he was using xrumor. His excuse was that someone else used xrumer in order to get his sites google banned. LOL.

He probably won't have that domain too long, Leo of MFC protects his trademark as vigorously as anyone in the biz.

i've tried all of the traffic vendors and choker converts the best.

in my experiments anyway..
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Did I win the 100 dollars? I need the money for a hooker.

Looks like Choker has fucked him again. :upsidedow

lol... so funny if it happens :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

http://www.ialien.com/ponies/umad.png

About sums this up.

Of course that's what he's doing... that's what I said. My point is at least you're getting paid for this, so theres no reason in pointing out what he's doing yet till the money is officially spent and gone. :1orglaugh

Hey I was curious if I won that 100 bucks, get back to me please :)

You are refering to the deathpool thread?

Na, the more recent one. I think my reasoning was pretty good. It doesn't matter if it was closed :) those hookers are expensive :(

No not really. The reason i started this was because choker was in a shitstirring mood calling out the camsiteowners for a test.

I then did the same thing. You can see the complete story in his thread, a link to that is posted somewhere above in this thread.

Im not expecting to get rich or make even a buck from it. Its just to show that if YOU call people out in this biz, someone can do the same exact thing with a service like choker.

The same day i posted THIS thread he starts building up his bullshit excuses about traffic, landingpages not being ok, whitelabels, the domain etc etc.

The whitelabel is a handmade customized full site from streamate. You think they are building these things, BY HAND, because they suck?

I asked you 4 TIMES to manage the buy and guide it choker, you have had your chance. Now its JUST like we expected huh, lots of complaining about traffic and landing pages. If you where so confident you would do better why not manage it? I know: You couldnt use that lame excuse if you did.

About sending it from 4-5 diff. brokers at the same time. That could have been better, but it shouldnt mean a difference between having 0 sales or 20 sales.

Im not following where you got all these new rules from choker, can you point me to it?



Will take some time.

YOU dont have a stand alone camgirls site either then dumbwit.
I have the same whitelabel as you have on your site lol :1orglaugh

Im not even sure where he said that. I dont even care anymore, i had expected all these excuses. Doing it my way now.

In that other thread you changed the rules and added a bunch all the time.
Its my rules now :thumbsup

Like said, you had your chance to manage the buy: You didnt, with the purpose to come up with this lame excuse.

We can still change it though, you know better? Manage the buy! Come on, show your balls bro!

Uhm yes, sure.

Not at all. He didnt before, he didnt know. He just thinks he did. But if you want to share yourself with the choker support group be my guest. If i where you i would check the program owners that i still send traffic too.