danclips

Over 10 years ago, when the term "Gonzo" first started being used to describe a new style of porn that was made popular by John Stagliano and then Seymour Butts, Gonzo was defined as a Style of filming that involves the camera in the scene by the actors or actresses acknowledging the camera or "breaking the fourth wall".

Do you think that the gonzo style of filming has expanded to include other styles of filming, in some cases plot based? Or is the acknowledgement of the presence of the camera still necessary for a film to be considered "gonzo"?

Does the existence of any scripted dialog or plot automatically rule out the gonzo classification?

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NaughtyRob

I have always just thought of it as porn with no story line. Quick interview then suck and fuck, or just start filming the girl walking then stripping then suck and fuck. "Straight to the action."

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blackmonsters

To me gonzo means : get straight to the sex and this is all about sex, fuck a plot,
fuck a script, fuck costumes, use video, hurry up.

Everything on the internet is gonzo (IMHO).

The "theme site" is gonzo because it's the same plot for every sceen.

Gonzo is the way to make money with low budget and high volume.
Yet it's probably the main reason that despite making 100 movies a chick is still
not even a valid "porn star".

By valid porn star I mean, their name is being searched on constantly and their name
can market a site. A news release with the name alone will generate buzz and mad traffic.

We have the ability to create stars but we don't and that's why we don't have stars to
promote.

The quality of gonzo cannot produce a star in this day and age.

PS: When I say quality, I'm not talking about the videography, that's great in gonzo.
It's the whole package that is just not hitting the mark.

When was the last time a chick made a porno that we all just had to see?
Unless she came from mainstream with a name already.....NEVER!
Fucking Amy Fisher, attempted murderer, draws more traffic than our "star".

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JosephFM

Gonzo Porn is another term for POV porn according to wikipedia.

blackmonsters

You need to add "none of the above" to your poll.

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blackmonsters

Oh yeah! Fuck them; what do they know?

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danclips

POV porn is definitely considered gonzo, but doesn't define it.

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blackmonsters

Nobody ever comments on my "failed to make porn star" statements.

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danclips

I don't necessarily agree with the statement. I think that plenty of "porn stars" have come out of the gonzo niche. Gianna Michaels, Bobbi Starr and Lexi Belle all got their starts in gonzo and were considered porn stars before they moved on to plot based films with higher production value.

More often than not, you'll see a girl in a gonzo porn 4 or 5 times and never see her again and never have a clue as to what her name is, but it's not always the case. Gonzo has become a kind of farm system for girls that move on to better stuff.

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blackmonsters

Well, you just proved my point.

I don't know any of the "stars" you mentioned.

A star is someone who appeals accros lines into people who barely watch porn.

I knew who Britney Spears was before I ever heard a song she sang.
Same for Justin Bieber. Those are stars! Their name brings money.
Being known amongst the "daily porn watchers" is not stardom.

People knew Linda Lovelace but they never saw her movies.
That's a star.

Ask yourself, if all three of the chicks you mentioned died in the same car crash,
would it make CNN prime time news?

Fuck no.

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Paul Markham

Dan, please go do some research before you post.

The same goes for a few more posting here.

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JosephFM

Please Paul, enlighten us.

What is considered Gonzo porn?

danclips

Paul. I've done more than my fair share of research. I'm looking for opinions to help us here at http://ww.hotmovies.com when our quality control department categorizes your movies as well as other provider's so that you get the exposure that you deserve and our customers can find what they are looking for.

My opinion is that the definition of gonzo porn has evolved over the years away from having just one strict set of guidelines that define it.

Besides there appear to be as many definitions of gonzo porn on the internet as their are tube sites. I'm looking to get away from wiki entries and urban dictionary and to get some input from people that are actually immersed in the industry.

Do you have a constructive opinion on the subject?

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blackmonsters

I could not get perfectgonzo sites to convert so I wouldn't even make a category for "gonzo".

I don't know if many people search for "gonzo".

It seems more like an "industry word" which probably means nothing to surfers.

Face it, you had to ask what it was, and does anybody here even agree on what it is?

No.

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danclips

It's definitely an industry term, but it also accurately describes a style of filming that has become prevalent in our industry. We don't pigeon hole a movie by only categorizing at gonzo, but it is used in conjunction with other categories to give users an idea of what they have in store. For instance, a DP movie that is clearly gonzo would be categorized like this:

anal > Double Penetration
anal > Male on Female
Group sex > Threesomes
Gonzo > Anal
Gonzo > Group Sex

I could just put it in Anal Sex or Double Penetration, but would be short changing the provider by limiting their exposure and short changing the customer by not giving him (or her) enough of an opportunity to find the movies that they want to watch.

I'm really clear on what criteria a movie needs to fall into to be considered porn. But I wanted to see what other people in the industry though. I haven't gotten enough input from this thread yet to garner any information. Only 4 people have responded to this thread.

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Paul Markham

Ugly George was probably the first to pioneer this style of shooting.



Then we had people like John Stagliano who took it further.



One of my mates was an English version of the style. Ben Dover.



There are others of course. to say it's POV doesn't do the style justice. It's a style of shooting where the person holding the camera is part of the scene and more than just a penis getting blown. He or she in the case of Buttwoman;



Drive the scene along and lead it. They're a personality in their own right and much of the attraction is them as characters. More often than not the shooter/character will be shooting others fucking.

POV is more often than not just some anonymous penis getting a BJ or sometimes fucked. After a while many of the scenes blend into each other. Because the guy shooting lacks personality. There are exceptions to this, still without the shooters personality coming across, it all becomes bland.

Yes many Gonzo stars do get a BJ and do film it POV style. The difference is "Gonzo Stars".

This will help.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gonzo_p...hy_direct ors

I shot a few "Gonzo" movies before I came to Czech. Crazy guy with a camera.

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Dead

Paul, "One of my mates was an English version of the style. Ben Dover." Come on man, you are making this shit up!!! Ben Dover.....HAHAHA and he shot porn, Classic alias..
We all know Gonzo is some dude from Atlanta.

Paul Markham

Gonzo isn't so much a niche as a style of shooting.

All these are Actions.

anal > Double Penetration
anal > Male on Female
Group sex > Threesomes

To describe the action that goes on in the scene. Gonzo is the style of shooting that involves the shooter as a major, if not the major part of the scene. Sex should always be involved, Gonzo is the method of bringing it to the screen.

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ShoeBox

Paul i get your proud that you shot porn and all but in reality we don't give a fuck if you fucked the girls and don't need to see the shit , just because it makes you feel cool to post the pictures because your so fucking old nobody cares

Cherry7

I have understood it to mean the cameraman is part of the action, or the actor, nearly always the guy shoots the scene.

That would be interesting to get a girl to shoot it from her POV....

Also there is little to no plot, sadly that does not mean it's all action as gonzo has not discovered editing, so it is long and boring, with the viewer having to speed up the action with the FF button.

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Gonzo is when the guy holding the camera is actually horny and does not hide it.

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Monique Niccole

See: all of the movies Bobbi Starr is doing for Evil Angel like Vicarious, Shut Up and Fuck, Gape Gang, etc.