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Old 11-23-2013, 02:51 PM   #1
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WARNING - CamSiteCash / NeonCams / CamPrime redirects to AWE

Without any notice CamSiteCash (Karoly Papp / CCCV Limited) redirected the traffic from neoncams.com camprime.com and whitelabels to

Code:
http://jasmin.com/en/girls/?psprogram=REVS&psid=livecamladies&category=girls
camsitecash.com redirects to awempire.com

CamSiteCash uses these nameservers

NS1.CONTROL-C-CONTROL-V.NET
NS2.CONTROL-C-CONTROL-V.NET

Some CamSiteCash white labels are

adultflirtcam.com
camobsession.com
camsex.cz
dreamcamtrue.com
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Old 11-23-2013, 03:08 PM   #2
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Old 11-23-2013, 03:09 PM   #3
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Old 11-23-2013, 08:05 PM   #4
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Old 11-23-2013, 10:25 PM   #5
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AWE aet the competition
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Old 11-23-2013, 11:36 PM   #6
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There was GFY thread asking if they are alive and non paying, earlier this year, so the bigger affiliates had surely pulled links long ago.
It is already something it redirects AWE and not Streamate like most end up redirecting to after death.
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Old 11-24-2013, 01:45 AM   #7
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I think they own camperfect as well. This also redircts to Jasmin. Do they have camspot.com? This now redirects to mfc.
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Old 11-24-2013, 02:01 AM   #8
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they are long dead.
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Old 11-25-2013, 11:33 AM   #9
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I think they own camperfect as well. This also redircts to Jasmin. Do they have camspot.com? This now redirects to mfc.
Camprime was by Karcsi an ex co-owner of jasmin, instead neoncams by karoly some cousin of the jasmin owner; neoncams ended redirecting into jasmin a year ago, and camprime now. No wonder they collapsed into livejasmin redirect, it's all between hungarians. Other camsitecash domains redirecting to jasmin: vipcamsex.com, CamPerfect.com , no idea if whitelabels.

Camspot was other owner (USA), reported in GFY earlier this year as hijacking affiliate sites/IDs, and I learn now from you, it redirects to myfreecams, thanks for the note.

Since we are here, let's remind that gamma livebucks's pornication.com , homecams.com are now streamate , but that should be tracked in livebucks (they mailed everyone a note weeks before, I got but others don't). Same for freecamstars.com , this is now streamate , but tracked in camstarcash.com.

There may be more "once independent" cam sites redirecting to SM/MFC/JASMIN of course, this is not meant to be a full list. Check your links
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Camprime was by Karcsi an ex co-owner of jasmin, instead neoncams by karoly some cousin of the jasmin owner; neoncams ended redirecting into jasmin a year ago, and camprime now. No wonder they collapsed into livejasmin redirect, it's all between hungarians. Other camsitecash domains redirecting to jasmin: vipcamsex.com, CamPerfect.com , no idea if whitelabels.

Camspot was other owner (USA), reported in GFY earlier this year as hijacking affiliate sites/IDs, and I learn now from you, it redirects to myfreecams, thanks for the note.

Since we are here, let's remind that gamma livebucks's pornication.com , homecams.com are now streamate , but that should be tracked in livebucks (they mailed everyone a note weeks before, I got but others don't). Same for freecamstars.com , this is now streamate , but tracked in camstarcash.com.

There may be more "once independent" cam sites redirecting to SM/MFC/JASMIN of course, this is not meant to be a full list. Check your links
Thanks for this.

How hard would it be for these companies/ individuals to at least post a notification or email people before pulling the rug. Fucking pisses me off it does.
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Old 11-25-2013, 09:08 PM   #11
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Thanks for this.

How hard would it be for these companies/ individuals to at least post a notification or email people before pulling the rug. Fucking pisses me off it does.
This is not just cams, thousands of pay site programs died, their fhg are redirecting somewhere else with no tracking - often after a period they was not redirecting, but not paying affiliates anyway. This is why to read GFY it is sometime useful (just some time).
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Old 12-06-2013, 02:10 PM   #12
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I worked with camsitecash from the beginning.
I understand when a program close, but do not understand why it is so hard to send a message to announce affiliates.
I do not like that kind of things!
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Old 12-06-2013, 11:33 PM   #13
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neon went under a couple of years ago... i had a white label with them, they still owe me $300+

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Camspot was other owner (USA), reported in GFY earlier this year as hijacking affiliate sites/IDs, and I learn now from you, it redirects to myfreecams, thanks for the note.
I posted about them a couple months ago:
https://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=1123...hlight=camspot
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Old 12-07-2013, 02:13 AM   #14
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good for them most webmasters go far-AWE and find better programs.
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I understand when a program close, but do not understand why it is so hard to send a message to announce affiliates.
Some sent an email, but not everyone received it, for many reasons (old/wrong email in db, faulty mailer, end in spam folder etc.). Really to notify the whole affiliates base, a program should send emails + icq + skype + whatever comunications, plus even go read the whois records and google the guys like a private investigator. I do it at times - for example who specified bouncing payment info - some affiliates are difficult to reach, as a program I can tell it.

About decide NOT to notify at all... It depends if you have to deal with affiliates again after having closed or not. Not all the program closing is the same story.

If you have other programs or plan to open new programs, you definitely better be very popular with affiliates so notify everyone in advance of any closing site, pay everyone, so you're supported in your other existing or new programs. Really, there are examples of current popular programs made by guys with previously (partly) non-paying closed programs, which are doing very well. This is in part because most affiliates are noobs/newbies and basically can not know what happened even a year ago.

But in the case the former owner quits the adult business, so program closes and ends up redirecting elsewhere... why to pay anyone or tell them to pull the links? He have no more to deal with affiliates later. Further, redirection/sale of his domains will have more value if less affiliates pull the links. And about the new domain owner, he can blame the former owner, so it is cool.

On a side note, I learned this in mainstream, long ago, from a telecom carrier: I heard there (accidentally) in a skyscraper building, a top manager talking another like this: M1: "this small mobile game provider asks to be paid, is just $2000". M2: "Mh.. ok they are small so can't really sue us.. and we will need to do business with them again in future?" M1: "No really, their stuff is already replaced". M2: "OK, then we'll not pay them, go with endless excuses route". I mean, it is not only in adult, that people are paid/notified only if have to do business again with them in future - and otherwise, not worth.
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