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fitty revenue drops:2 cents:

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Originally Posted by adultmobile (Post 20113365)

Streamate wl's are still in pay site member areas too, just these have low alexa rank. I posted the tube SM whitelabels list as a reply to claim of a decline of streamate traffic, wrongly made comparing steamate.com url.
Everyone wished to return to the old days but running a real business is not like dreaming a fairy tale in free time. I can't speak for SM management, simply they dealt with the most traffic sources they could get, including tubes, so they ended up with lots of tube traffic, simply because tubes is where the traffic accumulated. Now they have lots of that traffic to convert, and this is the same for every other cam program in fact.
Even small cam programs as mine could see that traffic from pay site member areas of old style tgp's shrinked or gone, also there's myfreecams, cam4, chaturbate's and bonga's around anyway, you can't undo these sites, like you can't undo tubes.
Should we be terrorists, all the tubes and free cams sites should be bombed and put offline, then, we could discuss about doing it the old way :)

So we agree, I think ?

I am not saying anyone is at fault, its just how it is.

Free stuff means traffic for the guys giving it away - but it is not good for the guys trying to charge the punter in the old fashioned way.

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Originally Posted by NewNick (Post 20114616)

So we agree, I think ?
Free stuff means traffic for the guys giving it away - but it is not good for the guys trying to charge the punter in the old fashioned way.

There's one thing missing in the considerations made, the age of the guys in the "traffic". Since a cam site got chat, you check logs to see the age of most the guys. The guys who pay most are 30+ years old, but esp. 35-40+ years old really. These guys had their brain "wired" before of the tubes or myfreecams, and not all adapted to feeling idiot if paying a cam girl's service or just tipping girls (brains are more difficult to change at later age, like it is harder to learn new foreign languages).
Younger guys, except being unemployed or otherwise missing cash, learned the all free and troll way directly, hard-wired in brain, and will be difficult for them to pay, even they can and sort of wish, since it will look like silly.
It is like older europeans don't want to use credit cards esp. online, since they had no credit cards when young, while USA people don't mind (incuding put it in phishing pages or telling number to everyone who asks).

Sites giving stats on age of viewers, often estimate 30% of tube viewers to be under 18, and 60% under 30, that's lots of useless traffic, just because the age of the guys. Not just because it's free. Old guys used to pay, may still pay if they wish, whatever the free you give, simply because that's how their brain was trained.

NEVER change the design of a successful website!!! You can add new features, but they need to blend in with the old UI/UX. Changing the look/layout of a successful business is bad business. If you think a site has become dated looking and you want a fresh new look keep the old design up for the dinosaurs who hate change and point them to classic.mysite.com

I think Freeones looks like shit but I would never do a major design overhaul of it.

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Originally Posted by BareBacked (Post 20112062)

you send to SM.com not to your own whitelabel right?
Did your placement get effected on the new design change also?
The design seems nice and pretty but pretty does not always sell

Are shows are the featured shows, their position on the Streamate site changed with the new site design

Like I stated before we have been doing the featured shows for Streamate for four years and it has been VERY successful for both of our companies

I have NO doubt that they will make positive changes and that we will soon be breaking our own records again.