some chicas do $0 gold shows, from what I hear it seems to be a bit of a controversial feature amongst chicas who use the site

count me in as old then, I hate the new design. all the cam room thumbnails look so smushed together, yeah the images are larger but they all seem to blend together. I wasn't crazy about the old design but I don't see this as an improvement. to me they went from too much white space to too little

it's hard to go from the most perfect layout to something new.
cam sites have always had fucked up layouts, til streamate perfected it.

streamate models are hot :thumbsup

What she said.... :thumbsup Start a gold show for $0 and guys just tip in whatever they want.

About old sites, don't forget mine :) I see you not login since 03-Dec-2013 as Quinn cam girl account in chatgf.com - mine older site. We recently added a fullscreen interface and immediately, an old user wrote that the new interface sucks; this was expected! We have the switch new/old interface option, default is old (that one is from 2007, no fullscreen, not resize!).

I think thehun is doing well and the interface is 20 years old or what? I used Qualcomm Eudora mail client from 1995 until recently before to switch to thunderbird, just because Eudora crashed often. I still use today Ultraedit and Windows Commander, since windows 3.11 pre-1995 era. I didn't updated to windows 8 yet (this seems popular not to update anyway). Who I am to yell at users for not liking new interfaces?

And by the way some old users of cam sites (those regular since 3+ years) do NOT like new models. Some write us: "old models was/are better, than those new ones.". Definitely not true, but same story, people get used to old interface, old girls, and whatever new in interface (or even girls) is bad.

So you are saying that streamate has swapped its traditional traffic for a shit load of tube traffic, and that it is following the free sites by allowing free shows with tips.

Now obviously this is not the kind of thing you would ever choose to do.

They are hoovering up the tube traffic, but as this is where the traffic is these days, this model is a necessary evil. The same applies to free shows and tips. No established cam site with a paying customer base is going to do this without good reason.

I am pretty sure that their management would prefer a return to the good old days.

You remember, when surfers were still looking for some porn and were more than happy to pay for it.

:2 cents::2 cents::2 cents:

streamate wl's got hit hard by g00gle few months ago, awe wl's got hit also by g00gle 1 year ago,the only ones that still rank and work the best are webcamwiz wl's (ignore my sig) .i see also some chaturbate wl's doing great.

you send to SM.com not to your own whitelabel right?
Did your placement get effected on the new design change also?
The design seems nice and pretty but pretty does not always sell

Streamate wl's are still in pay site member areas too, just these have low alexa rank. I posted the tube SM whitelabels list as a reply to claim of a decline of streamate traffic, wrongly made comparing steamate.com url.
Everyone wished to return to the old days but running a real business is not like dreaming a fairy tale in free time. I can't speak for SM management, simply they dealt with the most traffic sources they could get, including tubes, so they ended up with lots of tube traffic, simply because tubes is where the traffic accumulated. Now they have lots of that traffic to convert, and this is the same for every other cam program in fact.
Even small cam programs as mine could see that traffic from pay site member areas of old style tgp's shrinked or gone, also there's myfreecams, cam4, chaturbate's and bonga's around anyway, you can't undo these sites, like you can't undo tubes.
Should we be terrorists, all the tubes and free cams sites should be bombed and put offline, then, we could discuss about doing it the old way :)

A 15% drop during a traditionally bad month for adult would seem to be right in line with expectations, no?

fitty revenue drops:2 cents:

So we agree, I think ?

I am not saying anyone is at fault, its just how it is.

Free stuff means traffic for the guys giving it away - but it is not good for the guys trying to charge the punter in the old fashioned way.

:2 cents:

There's one thing missing in the considerations made, the age of the guys in the "traffic". Since a cam site got chat, you check logs to see the age of most the guys. The guys who pay most are 30+ years old, but esp. 35-40+ years old really. These guys had their brain "wired" before of the tubes or myfreecams, and not all adapted to feeling idiot if paying a cam girl's service or just tipping girls (brains are more difficult to change at later age, like it is harder to learn new foreign languages).
Younger guys, except being unemployed or otherwise missing cash, learned the all free and troll way directly, hard-wired in brain, and will be difficult for them to pay, even they can and sort of wish, since it will look like silly.
It is like older europeans don't want to use credit cards esp. online, since they had no credit cards when young, while USA people don't mind (incuding put it in phishing pages or telling number to everyone who asks).

Sites giving stats on age of viewers, often estimate 30% of tube viewers to be under 18, and 60% under 30, that's lots of useless traffic, just because the age of the guys. Not just because it's free. Old guys used to pay, may still pay if they wish, whatever the free you give, simply because that's how their brain was trained.

NEVER change the design of a successful website!!! You can add new features, but they need to blend in with the old UI/UX. Changing the look/layout of a successful business is bad business. If you think a site has become dated looking and you want a fresh new look keep the old design up for the dinosaurs who hate change and point them to classic.mysite.com

I think Freeones looks like shit but I would never do a major design overhaul of it.

Are shows are the featured shows, their position on the Streamate site changed with the new site design

Like I stated before we have been doing the featured shows for Streamate for four years and it has been VERY successful for both of our companies

I have NO doubt that they will make positive changes and that we will soon be breaking our own records again.