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Robbie 11-05-2015 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by bronco67 (Post 20626570)
This shit is all moot anyway because by this time next year there will be no Carson or Trump in the race.

By this time next year there won't be a race.
The general election takes place on Nov. 4th.
Today is Nov. 5th.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:pimp

EDIT: Fiddy pyramids full of superstitious religious grain.

Dvae 11-05-2015 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by crockett (Post 20626467)
Holy fuck this guy is an idiot.. i knew he was fucking nuts but good damn.. No wonder the Relgious right loves him.. He's a moron..




It's like the race to see who can be the dumbest of them all.. Trump or Carson..

Ben Carson: Egyptian pyramids were grain stores, not pharaohs' tombs | US news | The Guardian

Imagine a presidential candidate saying there were 57 states.

And you most likely voted for him regardless.

directfiesta 11-05-2015 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Acepimp (Post 20626539)
Yes, his theory is dumb since the pyramids were built 8,000 years before Joseph was around, but he's no idiot..

:helpme :1orglaugh

j3rkules 11-05-2015 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Acepimp (Post 20626539)
Ok Crockett, tell us, what was the purpose of the pyramids? Fact is no one knows for sure. Anything you say is just a theory. Carson has a theory. Prove him wrong. Yes, his theory is dumb since the pyramids were built 8,000 years before Joseph was around, but he's no idiot. Nor is he an expert in Egyptian antiquities. Get back to us when you're one of those or a neurosurgeon, bud.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

JFK 11-05-2015 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20626509)
that's the stupidest fucking argument you could try to make.

you're in over your head.

with, or without a sponge ? :Graucho

Far-L 11-05-2015 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Acepimp (Post 20626539)
Ok Crockett, tell us, what was the purpose of the pyramids? Fact is no one knows for sure. Anything you say is just a theory. Carson has a theory. Prove him wrong. Yes, his theory is dumb since the pyramids were built 8,000 years before Joseph was around, but he's no idiot. Nor is he an expert in Egyptian antiquities. Get back to us when you're one of those or a neurosurgeon, bud.

8000 years? What on Earth are you talking about?

Even the oldest pyramid is not that old.

For the record, they do know quite a bit about them too since the hieroglyphics were successfully translated with the discovery of something called the Rosetta Stone.

That Carson seems completely oblivious to this just points to the narrow focus of his education, not that he is uneducated. However, it does suggest that he is not necessarily intelligent if he expresses assumptions about stuff, especially based on religious fundamentalism that rejects facts for faith held beliefs.

In my own experience, many of the surgeons I have met in my lifetime tend to believe they are gods but while still being human are completely oblivious of many things.

TCLGirls 11-06-2015 03:26 AM

What else do you expect from Carson...that guy thinks Jesus walked with the dinosaurs.

_Richard_ 11-06-2015 03:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Far-L (Post 20627272)
8000 years? What on Earth are you talking about?

Even the oldest pyramid is not that old.

For the record, they do know quite a bit about them too since the hieroglyphics were successfully translated with the discovery of something called the Rosetta Stone.

That Carson seems completely oblivious to this just points to the narrow focus of his education, not that he is uneducated. However, it does suggest that he is not necessarily intelligent if he expresses assumptions about stuff, especially based on religious fundamentalism that rejects facts for faith held beliefs.

In my own experience, many of the surgeons I have met in my lifetime tend to believe they are gods but while still being human are completely oblivious of many things.

:2 cents::2 cents:

Joshua G 11-06-2015 04:14 AM

something is going to be destroyed, either religious extremism as an ideaology, or western civilization, for failing to confront them.

who will win this war? right now it looks like the religious extremists are winning, & the seculars are eating at chipotle & staring at their phones watching the extremists win elections, control armies.

:(

OldJeff 11-06-2015 05:19 AM

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Originally Posted by crockett (Post 20626586)

You don't solve immigration issues by building walls.. You solve it by investing in the country they are coming from and bringing them up to our level economically.. You make it benifical for them to stay there not leave. You make them a partner, not a indentured servant.

No you solve it with immediate deportation, no amnesty, no bullshit, send them back.

It is also not our place to "invest" in other countries anymore than it is to police them.

I love how liberals think every answer is to throw money at it (which by the way is money taken from people since "government has no actual money)

slapass 11-06-2015 05:39 AM

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Originally Posted by MetaMan (Post 20626482)
One of the top neurosurgeons in the USA is "an idiot". So that makes you. Someone who obsessively trolls GFY with limited life accomplishments what exactly?

You have to admit he has a lot of out there ideas. He might be ok cutting into a baby's head but not so good on big picture stuff.

SuckOnThis 11-06-2015 12:58 PM

Ben Carson Admits Fabricating West Point Scholarship


What a fucking moron.

SuckOnThis 11-06-2015 01:15 PM

No surprise the same wacko's who thought Palin would make a good President support this dumbass.

Ben Carsons nutty beliefs:

Gayness must be a choice, because prisoners who are raped come out gay.

Obamacare is worse than slavery. We live in a Gestapo age.

The Big Bang is a ?fairy tale? and the notion of evolution was encouraged by the devil.

Nope, I don?t see any global warming.

Nope, I don?t see any racism.

Planned Parenthood is a plot to kill black babies.

Ben Carson thinks that ?most? people, upon completing AP HISTORY, will want to join ISIS.

Ben Carson believes that it is admirable that at least ISIS is willing to die for what they believe.

Running for President, says Ben Carson, is sort of like being a soldier storming the beach at Normandy on D-DAY

Having one?s GUNS taken away is just as bad if not worse than being shot with a GUN.

Ben Carson believes that many gays are members of NAMBLA, the North American Man Boy Love Association.

Ben Carson would SURVIVE a mass SHOOTING by tackling the guy with the gun.

Ben Carson said that some terrorist would probably pay a million dollars for a container of ebola URINE.

Ben Carson believes that the VA scandal, which resulted in thousands of veterans waiting obscene amounts of time for medical care, was a ?gift from God? sent to teach us a lesson about bureaucracy.

Ben Carson is a devotee of W. CLEON SKOUSEN, a dead conspiracy theorist who believes that secret commies are controlling America.

SuckOnThis 11-06-2015 01:29 PM

Ben Carson Changes His Stabbing Story Again


After CNN looked into Ben Carson?s stabbing story and found nothing to back it up, Carson added a few new changes to the story. Previosly identified as an ROTC classmate named Bob, Carson now says it was a ?close relative,? and claims he used aliases in his books without telling anyone.

mlmleads 11-06-2015 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by crockett (Post 20626497)
I never trust polls.. It's way too easy to get the results you want by asking the right questions or polling certain areas and not others.

It's just like they tried to claim the polls showed the last 2 presidential elections would be neck and neck, which couldnt of been further from reality.

It's simple math.. Republicans do not have the numbers for nation wide elections.. Much less to win with a crazy Relgious guy. The only time Republicans do good nationally, is when Democrats stay home and don't vote, like in the last mid term.

You 'never trust polls' but you quote the media? LOL!

crockett 11-06-2015 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by OldJeff (Post 20627424)
No you solve it with immediate deportation, no amnesty, no bullshit, send them back.

It is also not our place to "invest" in other countries anymore than it is to police them.

I love how liberals think every answer is to throw money at it (which by the way is money taken from people since "government has no actual money)

That idea works so well with North Korea.. They shoot people trying to escape, they mine the boarders.. yes thousands of North Koreans flee to SK and China every year..

What makes you think deportation will do any good when they will just come right back, wall or no wall..

Don't be fooled by bs from politicians who say what you want to hear.

crockett 11-06-2015 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by mlmleads (Post 20627868)
You 'never trust polls' but you quote the media? LOL!

You can read a story from the media and face check it if you want. There is no fact checking these polls as it's all opinion based.

Trying to compare the 2 is very dumb as they aren't even close to the same..

TampaToker 11-06-2015 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by OldJeff (Post 20627424)
No you solve it with immediate deportation, no amnesty, no bullshit, send them back.

This will never happen the left wants the votes and the right wants the cheap labor. Both party had enough time and control to address this issue.

crockett 11-06-2015 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by TampaToker (Post 20627908)
This will never happen the left wants the votes and the right wants the cheap labor. Both party had enough time and control to address this issue.

No it will never happen because everything from the cost of bacon to houses would skyrocket because the farm and construction industries depend of cheap labor.

Added to this, social security would fail because politicians are busy spending everyone's SS money and letting illegals pay in because they will never get it paid back to them.

You are a fool if you think it's about votes.. illegals can't vote..

TCLGirls 11-06-2015 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by crockett (Post 20627924)
No it will never happen because everything from the cost of bacon to houses would skyrocket because the farm and construction industries depend of cheap labor.

Added to this, social security would fail because politicians are busy spending everyone's SS money and letting illegals pay in because they will never get it paid back to them.

You are a fool if you think it's about votes.. illegals can't vote..


Mass deportation of illegals would severely damage the US economy. Agriculture, hospitality, and construction would all suffer.

Paul Markham 11-06-2015 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by bronco67 (Post 20626562)
Who's the idiot?


Americans are not subservient to the Government for paying for Private medical insurance, or even paying the government to pay the Private Medical sector for Health care. They're subservient to the Private Insurance and Healthcare Industry.

You can use the same analogy he does for all mandated insurance. Car insurance, employee, business liability, etc. He's an over paid surgeon making sure he stays over paid.

Ben Carson?s Scientific Ignorance.



He opens with a lie, many animals can do this. Just to differing degrees, the best were other hominids, followed by animals that have to hunt for food.

Ben Carson on Evolution. Evolution is so proven it's a wonder he has the gall to stand in front of people are argue otherwise. I stopped listening then as it's pointless to carry on.

His thinking is ruled by a minority discredited religious sect. He's clearly blinkered by it and further blinkered by the belief from the Bronze Age.

This is a man who might just get to command the largest and most deadly military in the existance, have his finger on the button and sit at the head of Government for the number one power in the World. Maybe not there when he leaves power, but there should he ever get elected.

The scariest thing is to see Republicans here defend him. He's clearly not going to win, and if the Republicans want to win the Presidency, they have to stop picking losers. They lost twice to a Black man, and now face losing to a women.

I say that as an Englishman whose PM is a muppet, and still streets ahead of anyone on the opposition benches.

Paul Markham 11-06-2015 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by MetaMan (Post 20626992)
Just because you're "taught this" is not a valid reasoning either.

There have been archaeologists who claim the dating of the pyramids are much older then the time of the great Egyptians. And that they were already built by the time the Egyptians found them.

Even archaeologists who have the same thinking as you argue the exact way they were built. So no you don't really know how they were "built".

I'm not saying Carson is even close to being right. But it is good to keep an open mind (again not saying he is right)

Was it used for tombs? Yes. But to speak like you know everything as fact is completely false.

So why did they not leave them hollow? Seems to me a man trying to be President would know how to use Google.

http://www.ancient-wisdom.com/Images...20features.jpg

Logically one would ask why the Egyptians were worshipping other gods, if it was the Jewish god doing all this great work. And why by the time Joseph appeared, the Egyptians had a long history of building pyramids. Because they believed if the Pharaoh went to the after life, they would follow.

The building of the pyramids is now very established fact. It wasn't slaves, they weren't forced to, they were well cared for and built the pyramids after the harvest had been gathered. All this is available through archeological records. Still Carson probably believes the world was created 6,000 years ago in 7 days. Because a priest said so.

He can only get away with statements like these because of the level of education of his target audience. It's not a question of "keeping an open mind". It's a fact of denying the truth.

MaDalton 11-06-2015 04:46 PM

i said it above, only 3% of a pyramid is hollow space

420 11-06-2015 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 20628051)
i said it above, only 3% of a pyramid is hollow space

Yes, of course, the grain must be kept well insulated from the desert sun.

MaDalton 11-06-2015 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by 420 (Post 20628063)
Yes, of course, the grain must be kept well insulated from the desert sun.

otherwise Joseph gets upset

crockett 11-06-2015 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 20628069)
otherwise Joseph gets upset

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh


Oh and btw TampaToker, my quote above was meant for the same guy you quoted. I was on my cell and quoted you by mistake.

crockett 11-06-2015 06:52 PM

I'm waiting for the Ben Carson "leftist Media" excuses for the reason all this stuff is coming out about him. It's no doubt he will try to explain away his dumbness with the liberal media excuses. :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Paul Markham 11-07-2015 01:46 AM

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Originally Posted by OldJeff (Post 20627424)
No you solve it with immediate deportation, no amnesty, no bullshit, send them back.

It is also not our place to "invest" in other countries anymore than it is to police them.

I love how liberals think every answer is to throw money at it (which by the way is money taken from people since "government has no actual money)

The way to solve illegal migration is to heavily fine anyone employing or housing them. Remove education for the children, healthcare is already practically of the table for anything other than accidents, no driving licenses. When I say fine I mean fine businesses so much they risk going bankrupt.

This removes all financial benefits of them coming or anyone catering to their needs. The Republicans would never agree.

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Originally Posted by crockett (Post 20627924)
No it will never happen because everything from the cost of bacon to houses would skyrocket because the farm and construction industries depend of cheap labor.

Added to this, social security would fail because politicians are busy spending everyone's SS money and letting illegals pay in because they will never get it paid back to them.

You are a fool if you think it's about votes.. illegals can't vote..

The cost of housing would drop, with the law of supply and demand kicking in. Illegal migrants are renting houses.

But as you say businesses profit from cheap labour, making food too expensive for some to buy.

Paul Markham 11-07-2015 01:58 AM

What some Americans don't understand or see is how they come over to the rest of the World.

GWB is so intellectually challenged, if born in a poor family he would struggle to be a waiter. He lied over Iraq, and spent $billions and 100,000 of lives to remove the only kind of man capable of ruling in that region. The crisis there now is much GWB's fault.

Obama looked good at the start and has been blocked and stopped every chance the opposition got. Obamacare is a shameful compromise and when Carson says it's like slavery. Do Americans understand how that looks to countries where everyone pays the Government for Healthcare?

His thinking on Bronze Age myths is astonishing. He's now been exposed as a liar.

Palin was not such a joke over here as she was in the US. We were more scared she might win. She made GWB look like a genius.

Romney was no better, another gone with fringe religious beliefs. The rest of the world thought he was another person to be worried about.

If this was the track record of a county like Moldova, no one would care. As the Number One economy and military power in the World. We all deserve better.

$5 submissions 11-07-2015 11:18 AM

Thanks for clarifying that, OP.

I thought the pyramids were giant ashtrays.

I have seen the light thanks to this thread.

:)

dyna mo 11-07-2015 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 20628200)
What some Americans don't understand or see is how they come over to the rest of the World.

blah blah


We all deserve better.

what you don't understand is Americans do not elect our Presidents based on what you think you deserve from America.

Paul Markham 11-08-2015 12:51 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20628487)
what you don't understand is Americans do not elect our Presidents based on what you think you deserve from America.

What you don't understand is a bad or good leader is a bad or good leader for more reasons than the flag he stands under.

And it's not what I think that matters, it's what the rest of the world thinks that matters. And at the moment America is losing influence at that table.

Carson is a fool for thinking the bible is more than a lot of mythical stories and what people of the time thought would bring them power or influence. Carson has been exposed as a liar, so obviously not a person who really believes in the bible. He's trying to appeal to a section of the US electorate who are badly educated and worse still determined to stay that way.

Does this belief about the pyramids point to a lack of knowledge, willful neglect to educate himself, a lie, or all three?

People replying here that it's not known or open for debate, also have to be questioned on why they think it's not 100% proven what the pyramids were built for?

OldJeff 11-08-2015 05:53 AM

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Originally Posted by crockett (Post 20627924)

You are a fool if you think it's about votes.. illegals can't vote..

And they can't vote because they supply ID at the polls right ?

OldJeff 11-08-2015 05:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 20628198)
The way to solve illegal migration is to heavily fine anyone employing or housing them. Remove education for the children, healthcare is already practically of the table for anything other than accidents, no driving licenses. When I say fine I mean fine businesses so much they risk going bankrupt.

This removes all financial benefits of them coming or anyone catering to their needs. The Republicans would never agree.

The cost of housing would drop, with the law of supply and demand kicking in. Illegal migrants are renting houses.

But as you say businesses profit from cheap labour, making food too expensive for some to buy.

Some very good points there, except healthcare being off the table, there are a lot of places they can go and get treatment

bronco67 11-08-2015 06:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 20628901)
What you don't understand is a bad or good leader is a bad or good leader for more reasons than the flag he stands under.

And it's not what I think that matters, it's what the rest of the world thinks that matters. And at the moment America is losing influence at that table.

Carson is a fool for thinking the bible is more than a lot of mythical stories and what people of the time thought would bring them power or influence. Carson has been exposed as a liar, so obviously not a person who really believes in the bible. He's trying to appeal to a section of the US electorate who are badly educated and worse still determined to stay that way.

Does this belief about the pyramids point to a lack of knowledge, willful neglect to educate himself, a lie, or all three?

People replying here that it's not known or open for debate, also have to be questioned on why they think it's not 100% proven what the pyramids were built for?

I know it's funny. The pharaohs actually existed.

...vs characters from a fairy tale book. I can't believe there's even a semi-debate over who built the pyramids and what they were used for. Massive facepalm.

dyna mo 11-08-2015 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 20628901)
What you don't understand is a bad or good leader is a bad or good leader for more reasons than the flag he stands under.

And it's not what I think that matters, it's what the rest of the world thinks that matters. And at the moment America is losing influence at that table.

Carson is a fool for thinking the bible is more than a lot of mythical stories and what people of the time thought would bring them power or influence. Carson has been exposed as a liar, so obviously not a person who really believes in the bible. He's trying to appeal to a section of the US electorate who are badly educated and worse still determined to stay that way.

Does this belief about the pyramids point to a lack of knowledge, willful neglect to educate himself, a lie, or all three?

People replying here that it's not known or open for debate, also have to be questioned on why they think it's not 100% proven what the pyramids were built for?

you're the one that hasn't figured out it's not about what America can do for you.

and you also haven't figured out people choose on their on volition to run for president. you think you deserve better than ben carson, then elect better officials yourself in your country and stop relying on the USA and stop thinking you deserve something from America, you do not.

crockett 11-08-2015 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 20628198)
The way to solve illegal migration is to heavily fine anyone employing or housing them. Remove education for the children, healthcare is already practically of the table for anything other than accidents, no driving licenses. When I say fine I mean fine businesses so much they risk going bankrupt.

This removes all financial benefits of them coming or anyone catering to their needs. The Republicans would never agree.

The cost of housing would drop, with the law of supply and demand kicking in. Illegal migrants are renting houses.

But as you say businesses profit from cheap labour, making food too expensive for some to buy.

Illegal migrants might cause prices to rise in some areas but not everywhere. Sure if you are talking LA or South FLbut country wide they have very little effect.. However they do provide cheap labor a snot just illegals but even legal South Americans work very cheap.

MaDalton 11-08-2015 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20629044)
... and stop relying on the USA and stop thinking you deserve something from America, you do not.

deal - once American presidents stop meddling in places where they don't belong, which in return sends millions of refugees over here instead of the US where they would belong

when your actions affect half of the planet, half of the planet has a close look on who you elect as leader

dyna mo 11-08-2015 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 20629089)
deal - once American presidents stop meddling in places where they don't belong, which in return sends millions of refugees over here instead of the US where they would belong

when your actions affect half of the planet, half of the planet has a close look on who you elect as leader

wrong.

if you have a problem with your country, you need to elect better leaders there, not here. if your country wasn't so weak and needy, then there wouldn't be a power vacuum that allows USA hegemony there.

you're trying to blame the USA for Merkel's decisions on civil war refugees, wrong again.

dyna mo 11-08-2015 09:30 AM

it cracks me up how foreigners blame everything bad on USA, nothing good ever comes from AMerica and on top of that think they deserve something from America.

hahahahahahah. right.

directfiesta 11-08-2015 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 20629089)
deal - once American presidents stop meddling in places where they don't belong, which in return sends millions of refugees over here instead of the US where they would belong

when your actions affect half of the planet, half of the planet has a close look on who you elect as leader

right :thumbsup

pimpmaster9000 11-08-2015 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by SuckOnThis (Post 20627849)
Ben Carson believes that many gays are members of NAMBLA, the North American Man Boy Love Association.

nambla actually exists?!?! :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

holy shit I thought it was just south park having some fun LOL...I am stunned LOL

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

crockett 11-08-2015 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by OldJeff (Post 20628958)
And they can't vote because they supply ID at the polls right ?

To register to vote you have to have a social security card and an ID. To vote you need your voters ID card..


You right wingers love to build up this make believe idea that illegals go to the polls to vote. They don't and can't, but it doesn't stop you morons from lying about it..


Meanwhile it's been shown that election software is very easily manipulated to change vote counts yet you don't give a shit about that..


Anyway as I predicted.. Ben Carson blames the media for reporting about the dumb shit he says..

Election 2016: Ben Carson blames scrutiny on people threatened by his candidacy - CBS News

2MuchMark 11-08-2015 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20629094)
it cracks me up how foreigners blame everything bad on USA, nothing good ever comes from AMerica and on top of that think they deserve something from America.

hahahahahahah. right.

That's not true. I'm Canadian, and I think the US has tons and tons of cool things going on. You've got tons of smart people, tons of cool people, tons of entertaining people, etc. What freaks Canadians out about Americans is how they seem to be so close to throwing it all way by voting for know-nothings like Carson.

marlboroack 11-08-2015 08:39 PM

What a waste of time lol

DonJon69 11-09-2015 09:18 PM

Everyone knows it was aliens that built the pyramids. Duhhh

midfinger 11-09-2015 09:47 PM

I'm really stating to get upset at the misuse of the word theory. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_method he presented a Hypothesis. One that has been proven incorrect. I wont be voting for him.

Paul Markham 11-10-2015 04:46 AM

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Originally Posted by crockett (Post 20629086)
Illegal migrants might cause prices to rise in some areas but not everywhere. Sure if you are talking LA or South FL but country wide they have very little effect.. However they do provide cheap labor a snot just illegals but even legal South Americans work very cheap.

I see your point. In places where very few live, there are no property prices rising. But they get to enjoy the benefits of cheaper food.

The problem is deeper than that. There's a break even point of a person who contributes to the economy and one that costs the economy money. People on minimum wage are costing the economy money in what the government needs to pay out to provide services for them. Education, health, policing, benefits, etc.

America with it's low tax theory, just borrows more and more. Blaming the government for over spending, to meet the bills. Americans create for themselves.

Ever thought it might be better to pay more for the goods and not pay less at the counter and run up huge debts for your grand children?

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Originally Posted by OldJeff (Post 20628959)
Some very good points there, except healthcare being off the table, there are a lot of places they can go and get treatment

Paid for by taxes or borrowing.

Paul Markham 11-10-2015 04:55 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20629044)
you're the one that hasn't figured out it's not about what America can do for you.

and you also haven't figured out people choose on their on volition to run for president. you think you deserve better than ben carson, then elect better officials yourself in your country and stop relying on the USA and stop thinking you deserve something from America, you do not.

You really don't understand. It's not what America can do for me, it's what America can do to the rest of the world.

Like the recent markets crash because an American President thought it was cool to let people who couldn't afford a mortgage, have one. Or take us to an illegal war, that increased the problems in the ME today.

Stop thinking the US has no detrimental effect on any other country. You do owe us that much.

As for better leaders, we all need that. The UK has a wimp as PM and he's way better than the guy leading the opposition, and Merkel is a danger to the living standards of Europeans.

Paul Markham 11-10-2015 05:07 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20629090)
wrong.

if you have a problem with your country, you need to elect better leaders there, not here. if your country wasn't so weak and needy, then there wouldn't be a power vacuum that allows USA hegemony there.

you're trying to blame the USA for Merkel's decisions on civil war refugees, wrong again.

No way. We blame the war in Syria on Bush who took us to an illegal war so he could get his hands on oil and money.

Removing Saddam created the problems we now face in the region. Blair was an idiot for going with Bush, but Bush would have gone anyway and more Americans would died.

Do you think for one minute Saddam/Iran would allow Iran/Saddam to build a Nuclear reactor? Either one would bomb the other to stop it.


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