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Old 11-25-2019, 05:35 AM   #101
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Old 11-25-2019, 07:05 AM   #102
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i guess it depends on what videos you are selling and to whom you are marketing towards
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Old 11-25-2019, 08:42 AM   #103
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yes on the phillipines you can live with 500 dollar profit.
I used to live in Manila. Say no more. Thanks.
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Old 11-25-2019, 08:50 AM   #104
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yes on the phillipines you can live with 500 dollar profit.

but letīs calculate 1000 members a 20 dollar per month

this is 20.000 us

so now assume that after affiliate share and payment costs there are 8000 left.
from wich you have to pay servers, promo materials and a lot more - if you have a cheap
solution that will cost you another 1000. wich leaves you with 7000.
now assume that you have to update at least 3 videos per day to make it worth for a user and you buy for the price that paul tells you - if it is semi-exclusive you would pay around 50 us per scene. 50x80= 4000 - wich leaves you with 3000 profit.

this is not called biz.



why is that so important for you to know?
I am not here to compare dick length. But the people who know me know that I am doing well.



I am since 1997 in adult internet and since 1999 I also feed the families from my employees (most of them came because they could not do it alone)



I was running a big german membersite from 2000 til 2012.
the memberbase in the best times was around 13-16 k wich means that you need around 3000 to 4000 NEW PAYING members every month when you want to hold this number.
this makes it incredibly expensive because the costs of the infrastructure is a lot higher
and becomes fix costs. if you ever go down from this number of members you must shrink very fast or the costs will eat you.

in my market (wich is mainly the german speaking market) there have been a few VERY big affiliate system that was running hundreds of paysites each.
ALL of them are still HUGE companies with 9-digit yearly revenues - but not one of them is still doing the classic members areas - and they also know why.

there was sexmoney, there was partnercash there was cash4members and many many more - where are they?
ALL of them are still active but they do something else and do it with MUCH MORE success.

Back then and before, I made way more money out of content sites that I produced for probably a whole lot less. You know what you called peanuts. This is not about dick length (at least not on my end) but credibility since you are dissing small business, which, I am guessing made more than you. So that is all I needed to know when I read your advice posts.
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Old 11-25-2019, 09:16 AM   #105
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yes i explained you how much they turn over.
and it is a very simple logic.

if an employed media buyer costs 5000 dollar per month and he spends 100 k monthly and makes a 10% ROI - his boss will have a net ROI of around 3% wich would be around 3000 dollar.
if he have 100 such buyers (and there are companies with much more than that) he makes 300k but he would need to invest 10 million. do you really think that for someone who is able to invest 10 million 300k profit is a big deal?

if you think that this people do not exist than you should not explain us here how golden the times have been. a person with a monthly income of 300 K is NOT a superrich. he is upper middle class.
100 buyers each spending 100,000 dollar per month - = $600,000,000 per year on ad buying.

$600,000,000 buying traffic gets you 10,020,000,000 clicks @ $5 per 1,000.

Thommy's own figures exposes him as an arrogant liar if he can't name the firm spending this much on just buying ads.

Explain your logic Thommy, we all need to know.
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