Originally Posted by theking (Post 17044295)

Pigshit.

Originally Posted by onwebcam (Post 17044321)

It's well documented HISTORY

Originally Posted by theking (Post 17044332)

No...it is well documented pigshit.

Originally Posted by onwebcam (Post 17044177)

We all know most of it started in 1913 with the Federal Reserve but since then they have been working diligently. Up until WWI the US only had around 1 billion in national debt. After that war it jumped to somewhere around 25 billion and that was the nail in the coffin. In 1920 they passed the Sheppard-Towner Maternity Act to use people as collateral for the debt because your birth certificate is an actual bond. They did eventually let this act expire in 1929 (remember what happened in 1929?) but people continued to register their children believing it was what they had to do.

The Bureau of Census (Appraisals) undertook a bold new venture during the month of April, 1930. Over 100,000 persons were engaged in taking the census. At that time the usual questions regarding race, color, sex, age, occupation, whether married or single, and whether able to write were asked. In addition were such questions as the value of your home and whether owned or rented, whether you were the owner of a radio, and detailed questions regarding unemployment.5 This information was needed in order to assess a value on the chattels and collateral the Federal Reserve banks needed before loaning money to the soon to be bankrupt U.S. government.

The Under Secretary for Economic Affairs compiles all Census data and makes it available to those who are in need of it - such as banks seeking to determine how well a state or geographic area of people are able to collateralize a bond issue (loan) with their currently existing labor and property."

On the night of December 23, 1913 the United States Congress passed the Federal Reserve Act and thereby committed the greatest act of TREASON in history. It surrendered this nation's sovereignty and sold the American people into slavery to a cabal of arch-charlatan international bankers who proceeded to plunder, bankrupt, and conquer this nation with a money swindle.

The "money" the banks issue is merely bookkeeping entries. It cost them nothing and is not backed by their wealth, efforts, property, or risk. It is not redeemable except in more debt paper. The Federal Reserve Act forced us to pay compound interest on thin air. We now use worthless "notes" backed by our own credit that we cannot own and are made subject to compelled performance for the "privilege".

From 1913 until 1933, the United States paid the "interest" with more and more gold. The structured inevitability soon transpired: the Treasury was empty, the debt was greater than ever, and the United States declared bankruptcy. In exchange for using notes belonging to bankers who create them out of nothing on our own credit, we are forced to repay in substance (labor, property, land, businesses, resources, life in ever-increasing amounts. This may have been the greatest heist and fraud of all time.

When a government goes bankrupt, it loses its sovereignty. In 1933 the United States declared bankruptcy, as expressed in Roosevelt's Executive Orders 6073, 6102, 6111, and 6260, House Joint Resolution 192 of June 5, 1933, confirmed in Perry v. United States, (1935) 294 U.S. 330-381, 79 L.Ed 912, as well as 31 USC 5112, 5119, and 12 USC 95A. The bankrupt United States went into receivership, reorganized in favor of 115 creditors and new owners. In 1913, Congress turned over America... lock, stock and barrel to a handful of criminals whose avowed intent from the beginning was to plunder, bankrupt, conquer, and enslave the people of the United States of America.

On March 9, 1933 President Roosevelt called for the passing of The WAR POWERS ACT TITLE 12 USC. Section 95 (a) and 95 (b). This act declared all United States Citizens to be the enemy of the United States Government, and placed us under permanent Emergency Rule, bypassing Constitutional constraints on government.

With the Erie R.R. v Tompkins case of 1938, the Supreme Court confirmed their success. We are now in an international private commercial jurisdiction in colorable admiralty-maritime under the Law Merchant. We have been conned and betrayed out of our sovereignty, rights, property, freedom, common law, Article III Courts, and

The Bill of Rights has been statutized into "civil rights" in commerce. You have destroyed the Republic. America has been stolen. We have been made slaves, i.e. permanent debtors, bankrupt, in legal incapacity, rendered commercial "persons," "residents," and corporate franchisees known as "citizens of the United States"

Since 1933 what is called the "United States Government" is a privately owned corporation of the Federal Reserve/International Monetary Fund. It is merely an instrument whereby the bankers administer their ongoing subjugation and plunder of what was once considered "the last great hope of human freedom." All "public servants," officials, Congressmen, politicians, judges, attorneys, law enforcement officers, States and their various agencies, etc., are the express agents of these foreign principals - see Foreign Agents Registration Act of 1938; 22 USC 286 et seq, 263A, 185G, 267J, 611(C) (ii) & (iii); Treasury Delegation Order #91 - who have stolen the country by clever, intentional, and unrelenting fraud, trickery, treachery, non-disclosure, miss-representation, intrigue, coercion, conspiracy, murder. If there is a greater tragedy in human history it is hard to know what it is.

An insidious aspect of this is that "officials" may think they are "public servants," are upholding the "law," or other hoaxes. In truth they are conscientiously and assiduously serving the archenemies of yourselves, your own rights, your fellow citizens, continued human rights, life, and freedom in general. YOU are seditiously administering the plunder, bankruptcy, conquest, destruction, dismantling, and elimination of your country. YOU are systematically defrauding, extorting, impoverishing, and injuring human life on the basis of crimes and lies of such magnitude, depth, and proportions as to be beyond human comprehension.

In the early 40's thanks to the Erie Railroad Co V. Tompkins decision they were able to create U.C.C. which is based on a mixture of Maritime/Admiralty/Roman law and how most laws (statutes) are written and enforced today.

In 1947 the "Bar" (British Accredited Registry) Treaty was signed.

"Effectively Tying the Bar Associations of the Respective Pan-American States Together and subverting our Constitution to United Nations International Law"

http://www.barefootsworld.net/bar1947.html

Now they believe they can sell this nation to foreign powers with the stroke of a pen by Executive Order 12803, April 30, 1992.









Domestic Definition of Genocide in United States -
USC Title 18 Section 1091
(a) Basic Offense.? Whoever, whether in time of peace or in time of war, in a circumstance described in subsection (d) and with the specific intent to destroy, in whole or in substantial part, a national, ethnic, racial, or religious group as such?
(1) kills members of that group;
(2) causes serious bodily injury to members of that group;
(3) causes the permanent impairment of the mental faculties of members of the group through drugs, torture, or similar techniques;
(4) subjects the group to conditions of life that are intended to cause the physical destruction of the group in whole or in part;
(5) imposes measures intended to prevent births within the group; or
(6) transfers by force children of the group to another group;
or attempts to do so, shall be punished as provided in subsection (b).

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 17043782)

one would think that kane would of learned by now not to even acknowledge onwebcam.

perfectly good thread turned into a train wreck.


thanks kane!

Originally Posted by kane (Post 17044574)

You can take any series of events through history, cut out the parts of them you want to take notice of and then piece them together to tell a story. That doesn't mean the story is true or real.

Originally Posted by kane (Post 17044579)

You would think so. I even had made not getting involved in Onwebcam's theories a New Years Resolution, but I was bored, couldn't sleep and kind of enjoy messing with him.

Originally Posted by kane (Post 17044574)

This is pretty much what I expected. A big write up with still ZERO proof. Please show me the exact text from the war powers act that makes US citizens enemies of the state. I do a quick search and see pretty much the same thing you have written here and yet no proof. They take one sentence from the thing and immediately make a statement of fact with little or no actual backup or proof of what it is. You can take anything you want out of context and make it sound like you want it to, that doesn't make it so.

You can take any series of events through history, cut out the parts of them you want to take notice of and then piece them together to tell a story. That doesn't mean the story is true or real.

So I ask again. Please post proof. Show me the original text from the act that makes US citizens enemies of the state.

I'm also still waiting on the proof that backs up your claim that if a person fails to get the required vaccines they will be declined insurance.

PS I had to edit out some of the quote because the board told me the overall post was too long.

Originally Posted by onwebcam (Post 17045000)

"Since March the 9th, 1933, the United States has been in a state of declared national emergency. Under the powers delegated by these statutes, the President may: seize property; organize and control the means of production; seize commodities; assign military forces abroad; institute martial law; seize and control all transportation and communication; regulate the operation of private enterprise; restrict travel; and... control the lives of all American citizens" Senate Report 93-549



12 USC 95(b) refers to the authority granted in the Act of October 6, 1917 (a/k/a The Trading with the Enemy Act or War Powers Act) which was "An Act to define, regulate, and punish trading with the enemy, and for other purposes". This Act originally excluded citizens of the United States, but in the Act of March 9, 1933, Section 2 amended this to include "any person within the United States or any place subject to the jurisdiction thereof". It was here that every American citizen literally became an enemy to the United States government under declaration.


http://freedom-school.com/truth/waract.htm

United States Congressional Record March 17, 1993 Vol. #33, page H-1303 Speaker- Representative James Traficant, Jr. (Ohio) addressing the House:

"Mr. Speaker, we are here now in chapter 11. Members of Congress are official trustees presiding over the greatest reorganization of any Bankrupt entity in world history, the U.S. Government. We are setting forth hopefully, a blueprint for our future. There are some who say it is a coroner's report that will lead to our demise."

United States Congressional Record May 4, 1992, page H 2891, Congressman and Chairman of the House of Representatives Committee on Banking, Finance and Urban Affairs (101st through 103rd Congresses), Representative Henry Gonzalez (Texas) speaking on "NATIONAL AND INTERNATIONAL THIEVERY IN HIGH PLACES" (See Record Entry):

"We are bankrupted. We are insolvent on every level of our national life, whether it is corporate, whether it is just plain you and I out there with the life of debt that we have all piled up, private debt, credit cards and what not, or whether it is the government. We are insolvent. How long will it take before that nasty mega-truth is conveyed?"

The remarks by Representative Gonzalez at http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?r102:H04MY2-37: are utterly damning.

United States Congressional Record January 19, 1976, page 240, Representative Marjorie S. Holt (Maryland):

"Mr. Speaker, many of us recently received a letter from the World Affairs Council of Philadelphia, inviting members of Congress to participate in a ceremonial signing of "A Declaration of Interdependence" on January 30 in Congress Hall, adjacent to Independence Hall in Philadelphia.

A number of Members of Congress have been invited to sign this document, lending their prestige to its theme, but I want the record to show my strong opposition to this declaration.

It calls for the surrender of our national sovereignty to international organizations. It declares that our economy should be regulated by international authorities. It proposes that we enter a "New World Order" that would redistribute the wealth created by the American people.

Mr. Speaker, this is an obscenity that defiles our Declaration of Independence, signed 200 years ago in Philadelphia. We fought a great Revolution for independence and individual liberty, but now it is proposed that we participate in a world socialist order.

Are we a proud and free people, or are we a carcass to be picked by the jackals of the world, who want to destroy us? When one cuts through the high-flown rhetoric of this "Declaration of Interdependence," one finds key phrases that tell the story.

For example, it states that 'The economy of all nations is a seamless web, and that no one nation can any longer effectively maintain its processes of production and monetary systems without recognizing the necessity for collaborative regulation by international authorities.' How do you like the idea of "international authorities" controlling our production and our monetary system, Mr. Speaker?

How could any American dedicated to our national independence and freedom tolerate such an idea? . . . America should never subject her fate to decisions by such an assembly, unless we long for national suicide. Instead, let us have independence and freedom . . . If we surrender our independence to a "new world order" . . . we will be betraying our historic ideals of freedom and self-government. Freedom and self-government are not outdated. The fathers of our Republic fought a revolution for those ideals, which are as valid today as they ever were. Let us not betray freedom by embracing slave masters; let us not betray self-government with world government; let us celebrate Jefferson and Madison, not Marx and Lenin."

http://www.barefootsworld.net/srwep.html

Originally Posted by kane (Post 17045226)

Still no text showing US citizens are considered enemies? Now it seems like you are, as normal, deflecting.

The way the first part reads it says "An Act to define, regulate, and punish trading with the enemy, and for other purposes" then it supposedly is amended to include citizens. So this would mean if a citizen trading with enemies could be punished. I still see nothing that says US citizens are now considered an enemy of the state. I do see a lot of congressmen saying a bunch of stuff, let's not forget that many of these people simply want to get re-elected and they say all kinds of stuff that has no truth behind it simply to fire up their base and get votes. And even if what they are saying is accurate I am not talking about bankruptcy, I simply want proof that the US citizens are enemies of the state.

So, I still wait. Please show me the text in the war act that states that US citizens are considered enemies of the state.

Originally Posted by onwebcam (Post 17045209)

And for I guess the last unanswered question.

"The committee?s official summary of the bill says: ?Authorizes a demonstration program to improve immunization coverage. Under this program, CDC will provide grants to states to improve immunization coverage of children, adolescents, and adults through the use of evidence-based interventions. States may use funds to implement interventions that are recommended by the Community Preventive Services Task Force, such as reminders or recalls for patients or providers, or home visits.?

http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/51115



The Federal Governments proposed mandatory health insurance will mean mandatory vaccinations/immunizations. The Center for Disease Control (CDC) says that for anyone who refuses to keep up-to-date vaccinations, under the new health reform, you will not be able to obtain any health care you may need until immunizations are current.

http://www.rense.com/general88/health.htm

For the kids it IS mandatory

The Health Care Reform Bill Establishes A Program Called No Child Left Unimmunized Against Influenza Which Will Use Elementary And Secondary Schools As Flu Vaccination Centers

http://organichealthadviser.com/arch...nation-centers

You see they don't make them mandatory in the bill itself for adults they leave it up to the CDC (you know the people who wanted to shoot everyone up with swine flu vaccines) and the insurance companies.. You know as well as I that ANY way the insurance company can refuse you care they WILL.

Now do your own goddamn research..

Originally Posted by onwebcam (Post 17045259)

You are trading with the enemy every day you use their money to do business. :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Originally Posted by WarChild (Post 17045227)

Quick question for onwebcam:

If you really don't want to be burdened by government and have clearly evil groups like the CDC, FDA, etc, etc influencing and restricting your life why don't you simply leave all the burdens of modern society behind and move yourself to tribal Africa?

It seems like it's the only logical thing for you to do really. Instead of having your life burdened so badly by "the man" you can make all your own rules and truly be the master of your own destiny. I'm sure you'll build a wonderful Eutopian society around yourself and not just get mowed over by savages.

Now granted you won't have as much time for internet research with the burdens of finding food and water, keeping your family safe from rape gangs and trying not to get murdered but hey at least you won't have to submit to the awful lifestyle supported by Western medicine.

Originally Posted by kane (Post 17045291)

So you are now saying that buy getting cash for work and spending it I am trading with the enemy? You aren't really serious about this are you?

Is there any part of your life that is not a conspiracy?

Originally Posted by onwebcam (Post 17045322)

None of my life is a conspiracy. But since there are A LOT of conspiracies going on around me I spend time unraveling those conspiratorial acts. Because quite frankly I'm sick and tired of the lies and deception..

I very serious.. The "legal tender" > debt note is just a small part of the grand scheme. Every dollar printed has to be borrowed by someone.. And the dollar in circulation could NEVER repay the total debt plus interest. Just know that you and your children are born with a debt attached to you. A debt which was created via printing ink on a piece of paper.. Plus interest.. Debt slave..

Originally Posted by kane (Post 17045416)

that doesn't make citizens enemies of the state.

Originally Posted by stickyfingerz (Post 17045419)

Why was it not a epidemic ?

Originally Posted by stickyfingerz (Post 17045419)

Regardless of all the poppy cock in this thread... what happened? Why was it not a epidemic ? All the scientists of gfy said it would happen and then we would all be sorry for not getting an unknown vaccine injected into ourselves and loved ones. pfft....:error

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 17045448)

it was never considered to be an epidemic or have the potential to be epidemic, it was and is considered pandemic.

big difference, one you seem to wax over.

Originally Posted by WarChild (Post 17045608)

As amazing as it is, I think PornoStar69 might actually be the most ridiculous and least intelligent poster here on GFY. That's hard to manage given we have JaneB and others here too.

Originally Posted by stickyfingerz (Post 17041222)

crickets.......

I thought the swine flu was the next black plague... what happened?

Originally Posted by will76 (Post 17045654)

Everyone took the vaccine so no one got it lol :winkwink:

Originally Posted by stickyfingerz (Post 17041222)

crickets.......

I thought the swine flu was the next black plague... what happened?

Originally Posted by kane (Post 17045288)

Every single one of those sources is from months ago before there was even a single bill or it has gone through rewrites and had actually become law.

Originally Posted by kane (Post 17045288)

When it comes to kids, there are certain shots that every kid must have before they are allowed to go to school (although I think there are exceptions when it comes to religion and some other reasons) so this is nothing new. It sounds like the bill will make it so that there would be money to help immunize kids that might not otherwise get them due to lack of money or living in remote places.

Originally Posted by kane (Post 17045288)

I won't argue that drug companies are always fighting to get more immunizations on the kids. The HPV immunization is a good example. That is not a something you can catch just by being in the same room with someone and shouldn't be required to go to school. This is more about the drug companies wanting money and less about the government trying to control the population and there is no real sign that these things will become required in the future because there are already fights over them taking place.

Originally Posted by kane (Post 17045288)

But when it comes to insurnace companies denying you coverage because you didn't get immunizations, you are just jumping to that conclusion. You have ZERO proof once again and you are just assuming it. you said earlier in this thread , "The best part is the our beloved leader and his fellow criminals just made it law in his sham of a health care reform bill if you aren't up to date on these "great" life ending vaccinations the private insurance company you are "forced" to buy can decline you care. This includes flu shots. Damned if you do damned if you don't, literally.." There is no proof of this and you admit that. So once again you are reading a few lines from the bill (or more likely reading a few lines that were taken out of context and put on a website) and you are jumping to conclusions because it all fits the big puzzle you are trying to assemble of a one world government.

Originally Posted by onwebcam (Post 17042831)

There was no pandemic it was a fraud and a conspiracy. Period.. Every President since 1933 has to declare a national emergency so they can continue the rule by secret dictatorship.. Now they are trying it on a World scale. Fool me once.. It's game over.. Liars, cheaters, and thieves you are protecting. Which makes you no better..

Originally Posted by BlackCrayon (Post 17045769)

i don't know about yourself but a lot of conspiracy types were it was manmade in a lab basically to 'thin out the herd' and that we hadn't see anything yet... now they are saying it was all a big fraud. surprise, surprise.

Originally Posted by onwebcam (Post 17045891)

They flu was man made, even traced back to it's developers.. The "scare" was an overblown fraud...

Originally Posted by GatorB (Post 17045736)

Um perhaps people got vaccinated so it didn't spread as bad. That's kind of the point of getting vaccinate you stupid dipshit piece of monkey dung dildofuck.

Your logic is like saying the polio vaccine is a failure because no one gets polio anymore. If Glenn Beck, Sean Hannity, Rush and O'Rielly said fucking your mom in the a ss is ok you'd be the first go go fuck your mom in the ass.

Don't you have dick to suck? I heard that's your new hobby.

Originally Posted by stickyfingerz (Post 17047301)

Yup always the same. They saved the day.... lol. What a shrill..

Ozone layer is going to give us all skin cancer get ready to wear space suits to go outside everyone... DON't USE Aquanet!!! opps nvm saved the day....

Deforestation... Oh noes.. not going to be anymore oxygen... we are all doomed.... oops nvm saved the day...

Soil erosion.. all topsoil headed towards ocean.... nvm saved the day... phew.

Acid rain... oh noes... its going to kill all the trees and plants and we will end up wearing special suits when it rains..... oh noes... nvm saved the day... phew.

THE BIRD FLU!! Oh noes we are all going to die... pandemic... err... nvm its ok now... saved the day...

GLOBAL WARMING!!.... nvm its climate change, that only sort of changes... and now we are actually cooling down a bit... that is all part of global warming... nvm... well... keep minding a bit as we try to change current day events to fit our "climate change" mold... lol Savin the day woot!...

Swine flu? Pfft we knocked that fucker out with vaccines... ya fuck ya... pfft..

You all that believe all the shit handed to you need to get a primrose path tattooed on your asses... :1orglaugh

And gatorb you so hurt ma feewins... awws...:1orglaugh

Originally Posted by stickyfingerz (Post 17047301)

Yup always the same. They saved the day.... lol. What a shrill..

Ozone layer is going to give us all skin cancer get ready to wear space suits to go outside everyone... DON't USE Aquanet!!! opps nvm saved the day....

Deforestation... Oh noes.. not going to be anymore oxygen... we are all doomed.... oops nvm saved the day...

Soil erosion.. all topsoil headed towards ocean.... nvm saved the day... phew.

Acid rain... oh noes... its going to kill all the trees and plants and we will end up wearing special suits when it rains..... oh noes... nvm saved the day... phew.

THE BIRD FLU!! Oh noes we are all going to die... pandemic... err... nvm its ok now... saved the day...

GLOBAL WARMING!!.... nvm its climate change, that only sort of changes... and now we are actually cooling down a bit... that is all part of global warming... nvm... well... keep minding a bit as we try to change current day events to fit our "climate change" mold... lol Savin the day woot!...

Swine flu? Pfft we knocked that fucker out with vaccines... ya fuck ya... pfft..

You all that believe all the shit handed to you need to get a primrose path tattooed on your asses... :1orglaugh

And gatorb you so hurt ma feewins... awws...:1orglaugh

Originally Posted by pocketkangaroo (Post 17047347)

Ehhhh, when you get sick I'm sure you head to the doctor or hospital. You see, it's easy to be "LOL SCYENSE SUKS!" when it doesn't impact your life directly. When it does, you pray at the alter of science. Just like all the creationists who want those drugs when they are diagnosed with something although the science behind it is based on evolutionary science.

Originally Posted by pocketkangaroo (Post 17047369)

I think the overreaction to the flu was more about the media then it was about the government. There wasn't a lot going on in the world at the time and the flu story brought in big ratings (as any alarmist news does). So maybe they have to sit on some vaccines and maybe they put a lot of resources in it. But when it comes to health issues, I'd rather be safe than sorry. We took the passive approach when it came to HIV and AIDS and it cost a lot of innocent people their lives.

I don't see how this is any different than security for terrorism. I don't consider ramping up airport, port or whatever other security to be a waste of money because a ton of people didn't get killed by terrorists.

Originally Posted by Babaganoosh (Post 17042597)

Originally Posted by Babaganoosh (Post 17042648)

You replied 7 minutes after I posted. The video is over 16 minutes long. You didn't watch it. As I suspected you've already got your mind made up so any kind of reason, logic or attempts to educate you are in vain. You're willfully ignorant which is the worst kind of ignorance.

Originally Posted by Babaganoosh (Post 17047902)

Stop. Common sense has no place in this thread. Let the loonies fight amongst themselves.

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 17047750)

saddest post in this thread right here-

Originally Posted by stickyfingerz (Post 17048057)

If you people don't see how you are led around by the nose hairs so do it. lol

Originally Posted by Martin (Post 17042232)

I was happy to hear that more then half the SF shots here in Canada didn't get used. The Gov was trying to sell them off to Mexico last I heard.

Originally Posted by stickyfingerz (Post 17048057)

Saddest post eh? Well all those things happened, and everyone of them was supposed to change life as we know it. It did not even come close. If you people don't see how you are led around by the nose hairs so do it. lol

And btw PK. When I goto the doctor its for actual issues that aren't overblown media stories. lol