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Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life 08-07-2010 01:22 AM

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Originally Posted by theking (Post 17397265)
Pigshit.

that made my day.:2 cents:

Doug E 08-07-2010 02:09 AM

Good excuse for more military spending and filling the pockets of the defense industry. Just scare the paranoid retards into supporting it.

Flip the coin, is China scared the US will invade them? US has a major military presence patrolling outside Chinas waters, do they run around thinking their world is going to end at the hand of 300 million round eyes? What planet are people from where they think a full out war between China and US is possible? Don't want your carriers sunk don't float them so close, wouldn't happen anyway, it's a face thing. US would be fucking pissed if China propped up Cuba and had military bases in the Carribean with full carrier groups off the gulf coast. That's what China has, China isn't worried about it because they live in reality. Their missiles are a simple counterbalance saying 'hey, we're tired of you floating so smug in our traditional sphere of influence, back off a bit.'

This world is so intermingled through our economies the only countries that are targtets of war are the havenots where there's nothing to lose in bombing the shit out of them to fill the pockets of the industrialists and keep the generals blood lust met.

dyna mo 08-07-2010 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Overload (Post 17397030)
its not about you - but from what i heard the US owes china 300 BILLION $ ... that IS living on debts, no? :2 cents:

of course it's about me. i make up part of the credit system. if more people lived debt free, then less debt is owed to the creditor.

SallyRand 08-07-2010 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by _Richard_ (Post 17396944)
welcome to the watch list

Good!

My Dad was on the FBI's watch list during the latter years of the Viet Nam War, so it is just a case of daughter like Father!

I think he would be proud of me!

Sally.

SallyRand 08-09-2010 08:44 PM

Oh, Hell!



Thanks for looking.

Sally.

stillsexy 10-09-2010 12:53 PM

im not sure if u guys know the US has the largest gold reserve in the world... if the US defaults on all its debt, every US bond holders will suffer big time financially.... no one wants this to happen...

If the US does default, all the debt will be written off, not too bad. With that massive gold reserve, the US can have 2 options:
(1) trade gold for cheap craps from China
(2) launch the WW3, all countries freeze on their FX trade, everyone will trade gold for goods and weapons... the US could potentially emerge as the super nation once again...

PenisFace 10-09-2010 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by theking (Post 17397265)
Pigshit.

An elaborate, well thought out counter argument.








You dumbass.

buyandsell 10-09-2010 02:42 PM

can they not use those patriot missile things to shoot this piece of crap down?

alessergod 10-09-2010 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by SallyRand (Post 17395747)
So, keep the carriers 901 miles out.

Red China will not risk the kind of shit that could come down should it attack a US carrier force, especially if that carrier force is operating in the defense of or in copperation with South Korea's forces.

Commies they maybe; they are not stupid.

Sally.

Yep you are right they ain't stupid. But if they really wanted to fuck us all they have to do is dump alll the securities they hold and the economy would really tank.

alessergod 10-09-2010 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by SallyRand (Post 17396845)
Barack Hussein Obama hates the USA and will do anything to undermine its postion as a World power.

Sally.

The republicans are the ones who made the economic policies that made it cheaper to send jobs to china instead of keepong them here. Just look at all the corporations that have juge presences in China. So in essense we gave them the bucks to build their missles.

HeadPimp 10-09-2010 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 17395654)
40 years ago China was on the brink of a precipice. With famine, disease and an industry that could hardly function. In less than 40 years selling the West everything it can, we now have the Chinese leaders in a position to dictate to us. We need their money and they do as they please.

Which is exactly the reason they will not attack us. If we stopped importing Chinese products their economy would plummet like and old school lawn dart.

alessergod 10-09-2010 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by HeadPimp (Post 17592005)
Which is exactly the reason they will not attack us. If we stopped importing Chinese products their economy would plummet like and old school lawn dart.

:thumbsup

Maxi 10-09-2010 04:41 PM

Chinese can't do shit. The U.S is fighting 2 wars and they could still kick Chinas ass.

The U.S spends more money on its military then the rest of the world combined, they have the most powerful military in the world BY FAR. China will never be a superpower like the U.S.

I was actually neutral towards china until the recent drama they had with Japan, they showed how petty and butthurt they are over the ass kicking they got from Japan 70 years ago.

Japan really needs to drop the pacifist bullshit and remilitarize, because if china is a threat to anyone it's Japan.

A remilitarized Japan will put China in it's place, which is the T shirt factory of the world. No super power there, also people need to stop mentioning India among potential superpowers, what the fuck, they can't even put together a couple of buildings. Everybody's a fucking superpower these days.

directfiesta 10-09-2010 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Jesus H Christ (Post 17592012)
Wow, some of the posts here are just ignorant. First, we don't owe china anything.

lol ....

So I chose to take a mortgage at Premium Bank, but I do not owe them anything ..... ????

... lol .... :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

directfiesta 10-09-2010 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Maxi (Post 17592087)
Chinese can't do shit. The U.S is fighting 2 wars and they could still kick Chinas ass.

The U.S spends more money on its military then the rest of the world combined, they have the most powerful military in the world BY FAR. China will never be a superpower like the U.S.

I was actually neutral towards china until the recent drama they had with Japan, they showed how petty and butthurt they are over the ass kicking they got from Japan 70 years ago.

Japan really needs to drop the pacifist bullshit and remilitarize, because if china is a threat to anyone it's Japan.

A remilitarized Japan will put China in it's place, which is the T shirt factory of the world. No super power there, also people need to stop mentioning India among potential superpowers, what the fuck, they can't even put together a couple of buildings. Everybody's a fucking superpower these days.

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alessergod 10-09-2010 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Jesus H Christ (Post 17592137)
........... do you know how to read?.... Did we go to China and ask them to buy our TB? ...retard.

As I understand it nobody said they did. But irregardless, the owner of TBill is holder of a debt guaranteed by the government of the US.

alessergod 10-09-2010 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Jesus H Christ (Post 17592167)
Dept?............more like an investment. They get paid on the interest or penalized if they cash out early. Meaning, if you bought stock in a company would you tell your friends and family that this company owes you money?.........

Second, if the US is such a shitty market why would they invest/risk 28% of their countries profit in another market besides their own?...would you?

I didn't say it was a shitty market. But it is still a debt the treasury owes someone. Sure if the owner holds til maturity they get the valuer of the bill plus the interest. If the holder cashes out early yes they may take a hit depending on how it is traded. But in either case who owes the money to them. That's right, the US Treasury.

alessergod 10-09-2010 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Jesus H Christ (Post 17592182)
well here is where the confusion is and let me explain it in simple terms. If you "invest" in a country or company you have an option to cash out at anytime regardless. That's called an investment. Now, if the country or company goes broke and your investment is gone, then they "owe" you money. In Short, China still has an option.

I have a few hundred Canadian dollars laying around from my last fishing trip..in your thinking, I could say the country of Canada owes me money.:2 cents:

Fuck, ok as i said, china has an investment yes but the US Treasury sold the bonds and must pay on demand, That is one reason the Fuckin Teabagger are complaining the deficit is so high. And what makes up the deficit? Debt owed by the Treasury. And who does the Treasury owe this debt to? The Fucking Bill Holder, whether they collect now or later the Treasury is in hock for the amount of said Bill. Only way they wouldn't owe the orignal holder is if that holder sells to someone else. Then they are in hock to the new owner. I am not disagreeing that China sees it as an investment but the only reason the TBills are sold are to raise funds for the government to operate and are sold with the promise the holder to be paid back.

directfiesta 10-09-2010 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Jesus H Christ (Post 17592167)
Dept?............more like an investment. They get paid on the interest or penalized if they cash out early. Meaning, if you bought stock in a company would you tell your friends and family that this company owes you money?.........

Second, if the US is such a shitty market why would they invest/risk 28% of their countries profit in another market besides their own?...would you?

The US did not sell party of the treasury... they borrowed money and gave TB ... I will abstain from calling you names ... no point ....

" We did not force them ... " ... lol .....

Note to myself : call visa tomorrow as they sent me pre-approved cards ..I did not ask for them .. so I owe them nothing ... :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Jesus Christ !!!! :Oh crap

theking 10-09-2010 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Jesus H Christ (Post 17592393)
have another drink..

With him you don't know if it is drinking or just some of his ignorance that he frequently displays.

SallyRand 10-09-2010 09:44 PM

My 1000th post on GFY is to thank to HELL AND GONE for whoever left me positive rep for my postings in this thread! I cannot see who left it but I know you are out there!

Thanks again!

Sally.

ThunderBalls 10-10-2010 12:02 AM

And in the 80's Japan owned half the country, look how that turned out.

Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life 10-10-2010 01:02 AM

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Originally Posted by SallyRand (Post 17397673)
Good!

My Dad was on the FBI's watch list during the latter years of the Viet Nam War, so it is just a case of daughter like Father!

I think he would be proud of me!

Sally.

Was your daddy also your granddaddy? Maybe brother? :2 cents:

charlie g 10-10-2010 01:25 AM

This sounds like pig shit to me too. China owns 800bil in us treasuries.... Japan almost as much ~link~. You do realize that we have spent 3 trillion in bailout/stimulus and pledged a total of 11 trillion ~link~?

The Chinese cant do shit with their lousy 800billion...we can print that for them in a few days.


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