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BareBacked 03-27-2013 05:25 PM

Investing in Bit Coins
 
What is the best way to get in?
:2 cents:

2013 03-27-2013 05:25 PM

you gotta be straight

Penny24Seven 03-27-2013 05:28 PM

go back in time a year from now and buy them

CAHEK 03-27-2013 05:30 PM

Investing in Virtual Money ? :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Chris 03-27-2013 05:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brian837 (Post 19549146)
go back in time a year from now and buy them

why a year ago? what was it last week this time? 50?

if you got in when namecheap announced you've doubled your money.


easiest way is to fund a mtgox account and buy that way but mtgox verification que is like 8,000 deep

- Jesus Christ - 03-27-2013 05:32 PM

If there was an easy way to get in the price would be stupid high right now. Mt. Gox has a verification backlog of over 4000 and you'd have to use some kind of script to hammer coinbase's API if you went that route. Even then you are limited to 10 Coins a day.

Also... hello bitcoin haters. You're gonna feel REALLY fucking dumb in the next 10 years.

BareBacked 03-27-2013 05:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris (Post 19549151)
why a year ago? what was it last week this time? 50?

if you got in when namecheap announced you've doubled your money.


easiest way is to fund a mtgox account and buy that way but mtgox verification que is like 8,000 deep

So there is no way I can just buy it online today ?

AdultPornMasta 03-27-2013 05:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BareBacked (Post 19549143)
What is the best way to get in?
:2 cents:

Buy a Jalpeno and start mining.

http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/n...prospector.jpg

:2 cents:

seeandsee 03-27-2013 05:48 PM

Ok price almost doubled now, who sold it all and made 100% ROI in few weeks?

CYF 03-27-2013 05:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BareBacked (Post 19549159)
So there is no way I can just buy it online today ?

You can buy anytime you want from another person.

AllAboutCams 03-27-2013 05:55 PM

Easy but them on ebay know when you get your account approved transfer them

Dirty F 03-27-2013 06:02 PM

Funny how the same haters are in all the Bitcoin threads.
Must suck to see people double their money in 2 weeks time :1orglaugh

Chris 03-27-2013 06:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BareBacked (Post 19549159)
So there is no way I can just buy it online today ?

no real way to instantly buy with a credit card or anything online right now

unless you find someone who takes paypal

best bet is going to google and find some bitcoin forums or reddit.com/r/bitcoin and post saying wanting to buy bitcoin for paypal
but you will pay a premium

AdultPornMasta 03-27-2013 06:10 PM

If you are buying Bitcoins, you are doin' it wrong.

:2 cents:

Dirty F 03-27-2013 06:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris (Post 19549193)
no real way to instantly buy with a credit card or anything online right now

unless you find someone who takes paypal

best bet is going to google and find some bitcoin forums or reddit.com/r/bitcoin and post saying wanting to buy bitcoin for paypal
but you will pay a premium

If i can buy them online on a Dutch site instantly then there must be options like that for other countries as well right?

Chris 03-27-2013 06:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dirty F (Post 19549197)
If i can buy them online on a Dutch site instantly then there must be options like that for other countries as well right?

I personally am not looking but everyone ive seen that has been looking for a site to use just a straight credit card to buy coin has not found one yet

edit: ive seen sites like http://www.buybitcoin.com/Bitcoins--...rency_p_8.html but the price they list is actually lower than the cost of BTC .. doesnt give me alot of faith in the site actually delivering

Dirty F 03-27-2013 06:25 PM

And this? https://bitinstant.com/
Just found it. Haven't read the details though.

AdultPornMasta 03-27-2013 06:35 PM

http://howdoyoubuybitcoins.com/in/united-states/

You should be mining though....................................

:2 cents:

Chris 03-27-2013 06:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dirty F (Post 19549204)
And this? https://bitinstant.com/
Just found it. Haven't read the details though.

No you have to use one of the approved services that you have to get verified with aswell and then do a bank transfer or find one that does a cc transfer and then transfer to mtgox or one of the others


Quote:

Originally Posted by AdultPornMasta (Post 19549211)
http://howdoyoubuybitcoins.com/in/united-states/

You should be mining though....................................

:2 cents:

Not everyone wants to spend a grand or so on a mining machine to mine a few dollars a day

AdultPornMasta 03-27-2013 06:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris (Post 19549212)
No you have to use one of the approved services that you have to get verified with aswell and then do a bank transfer or find one that does a cc transfer and then transfer to mtgox or one of the others



Not everyone wants to spend a grand or so on a mining machine to mine a few dollars a day

You about a numbskull.

Do your homework.

:2 cents:

Chris 03-27-2013 06:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdultPornMasta (Post 19549216)
You about a numbskull.

Do your homework.

:2 cents:

you figured me out ;/

tell me why a random guy who wants to buy a few coins should just buy a mining rig rather than just buy the coin outright?

If i bought $500 worth of coin last week at 50$ each i would of had 10 coins. Today those 10 coins are worth 890.... i would not of had to "mine" anything. i would of not had to buy a computer. I would of not had to use up electricity

instead of calling me a "numbskull" educate me ...thats what I'm here for...

Konda 03-27-2013 09:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris (Post 19549198)
everyone ive seen that has been looking for a site to use just a straight credit card to buy coin has not found one yet

You usually can't buy BitCoins with creditcards, it's too risky, because if the card was stolen or the user does a chargeback there is no way to get the funds back.
So no one wants to take a risk. Their might be some that are willing to take the risk, but the will charge huge fees and usually don't last long.

The easiest it to just do a bank transfer.

NiXXiN 03-27-2013 09:22 PM

best and easiest way is make a mtgox account, also join freenode and join some of the bitcoin rooms, they sell in there and they can be verified as legit sellers with a selling history. i buy mine privately and sell mine on mtgox.

NiXXiN 03-27-2013 09:23 PM

dont buy an avalon or butterfly labs mining rigs, once they start to roll them out its going to make mining them insanly diffilcult to get ahold of any blocks to mine. just buy a shitload in one day and sell it in 2 days, keep doing that.

dyna mo 03-27-2013 09:26 PM

in the u.s., absolutely follow Chris's advices in this thread-

every transaction is done at mtgox.

and also make sure you move your purchases into a safe offline wallet with all security codes written down and stored in a safe way.

mayabong 03-27-2013 09:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 19549313)
in the u.s., absolutely follow Chris's advices in this thread-

every transaction is done at mtgox.

and also make sure you move your purchases into a safe offline wallet with all security codes written down and stored in a safe way.

If you are in the US, try coinbase. You link your bank account and they take it out. You dont get the coins for a few days but you get at the price you ordered them for.

You can also try Bitfloor where you deposit cash into a BOA branch.

You can also try http://localbitcoins.com

Deputy Chief Command 03-27-2013 09:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by - Jesus Christ - (Post 19549156)

Also... hello bitcoin haters. You're gonna feel REALLY fucking dumb in the next 10 years.

I think it is a risky investment. The way the gov. works they want a piece of everything. They are like the mafia. If bitcoin is to really blow up and become huge the gov will need to be awarded a piece of the business

If the gov can't get this piece they will make it illegal. Thats how it works :2 cents:

dyna mo 03-27-2013 09:50 PM

i would also take advice from mayabong on this as valid.

:-)

this thread addressed my only rules when i decided to start playing with bitcoins

1. every transaction will go through mtgox, it has vc backing and backed by silicon valley bank, in part, giving it legitimacy in my mind, translation, comfort.

2. always always always clear bitcoins out of the online account. always.

3. have fun!

mayabong 03-27-2013 09:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 19549331)
i would also take advice from mayabong on this as valid.

:-)

this thread addressed my only rules when i decided to start playing with bitcoins

1. every transaction will go through mtgox, it has vc backing and backed by silicon valley bank, in part, giving it legitimacy in my mind, translation, comfort.

2. always always always clear bitcoins out of the online account. always.

3. have fun!

Yes never leave your bitcoins with a 3rd party. I learned that the hard way when coinbase had a glitch last week. Never lost any coins but couldn't use them for 5 days.

Blockchain.info is supposedly pretty secure as long as you back up your wallet from there (its easy). If anyone ever hacked into blockchain.info all they would see is an encrypted wallet and wont be able to access your bitcoins

Dirty F 03-27-2013 10:37 PM

The site where i buy my coins ran out!

Emil 03-28-2013 03:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CAHEK (Post 19549148)
Investing in Virtual Money ? :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Most currencies are virtual, but you're too stupid to realize that.

DWB 03-28-2013 04:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Emil (Post 19549556)
Most currencies are virtual, but you're too stupid to realize that.

They are fiat, which if you want to split hairs could mean the same thing, but saying "virtual" it usually means online. To go a step further, using the USD for example, it is even worse than fiat because it is actually debt. So people who save USD are essentially saving IOU notes. Nothing more. USD savers are losers, literally.

At least bitcoin isn't debt. It may be fiat, but if they can ever work out the illegal use aspect of it so govs and banks won't shut it down, as silly as it sounds, putting money in bitcoins makes more sense than saving US dollars, providing you still have internet access in the morning and a hacker didn't wipe you out while you are sleeping. Short term bitcoin will make a lot of money, no doubt about it. Long term, I just don't see how it will last, because the fact it supposedly is not regulated (even though there will only ever be 21 million of them), is the exact reason banks and governments may want to dispose of it. Looking back through history, anything they can not tax or control, they make illegal.

If the owner of bitcoin had any real long term goals, he would be getting some heavy duty lobbyist in Washington right now to help ensure the survival of it. Otherwise it's a coin toss.

dyna mo 03-28-2013 04:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DWB (Post 19549598)
They are fiat, which if you want to split hairs could mean the same thing, but saying "virtual" it usually means online. To go a step further, using the USD for example, it is even worse than fiat because it is actually debt. So people who save USD are essentially saving IOU notes. Nothing more. USD savers are losers, literally.

At least bitcoin isn't debt. It may be fiat, but if they can ever work out the illegal use aspect of it so govs and banks won't shut it down, as silly as it sounds, putting money in bitcoins makes more sense than saving US dollars, providing you still have internet access in the morning and a hacker didn't wipe you out while you are sleeping. Short term bitcoin will make a lot of money, no doubt about it. Long term, I just don't see how it will last, because the fact it supposedly is not regulated (even though there will only ever be 21 million of them), is the exact reason banks and governments may want to dispose of it. Looking back through history, anything they can not tax or control, they make illegal.

If the owner of bitcoin had any real long term goals, he would be getting some heavy duty lobbyist in Washington right now to help ensure the survival of it. Otherwise it's a coin toss.


buying debt is safer than buying equity. always has been. the bond market.

DWB 03-28-2013 05:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 19549606)
buying debt is safer than buying equity. always has been. the bond market.

Government bonds / Tbills are for sure better, no doubt about it! I'm talking about USD vs Bitcoin long term and savings. Of course I'm also hypothetically speaking as if bitcoin makes it long term, which I personally don't think it will.

dyna mo 03-28-2013 05:51 AM

oh i see, you mentioned "saving usd" which i thought to mean as buying savings bonds/buying usd.

- Jesus Christ - 03-28-2013 05:55 AM


Penny24Seven 03-28-2013 06:08 AM

im no hater. I have many from a long time ago, I just think they are going to crash sooner or later. I'm holding till 400 unless I hear different

marlboroack 03-28-2013 07:48 AM

A lot of hidden bitcoin sellers burred deep down within' the internet. Download the browser Tor and do some searches on black market shit.. You'll find a lot of people w bitcoins there. If you buy enough I'm sure they will open a Paxum account.

mayabong 03-28-2013 08:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DWB (Post 19549598)
They are fiat, which if you want to split hairs could mean the same thing, but saying "virtual" it usually means online. To go a step further, using the USD for example, it is even worse than fiat because it is actually debt. So people who save USD are essentially saving IOU notes. Nothing more. USD savers are losers, literally.

At least bitcoin isn't debt. It may be fiat, but if they can ever work out the illegal use aspect of it so govs and banks won't shut it down, as silly as it sounds, putting money in bitcoins makes more sense than saving US dollars, providing you still have internet access in the morning and a hacker didn't wipe you out while you are sleeping. Short term bitcoin will make a lot of money, no doubt about it. Long term, I just don't see how it will last, because the fact it supposedly is not regulated (even though there will only ever be 21 million of them), is the exact reason banks and governments may want to dispose of it. Looking back through history, anything they can not tax or control, they make illegal.

If the owner of bitcoin had any real long term goals, he would be getting some heavy duty lobbyist in Washington right now to help ensure the survival of it. Otherwise it's a coin toss.

There is no bitcoin owner

Dirty F 03-28-2013 08:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brian837 (Post 19549665)
im no hater. I have many from a long time ago, I just think they are going to crash sooner or later. I'm holding till 400 unless I hear different

If you have many already then why did you say you would buy 10k in coins to see what they will do? Doesn't make much sense eh?


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