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BFT3K 09-11-2015 09:59 AM

9/11 True or False?
 
Do you believe the official government account regarding 9/11 was TRUE or FALSE?



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hgrunnLcG9Q#t=213

DBS.US 09-11-2015 10:15 AM

That video sums in up just right:disgust

Rochard 09-11-2015 10:32 AM

Every year this comes up. Same old story.

It's very simple. Two large airplanes full of fuel sliced through two tall towers. The combination of the impacts, the fact that they sliced the support holding up the upper floors, and the resulting fire caused the supports to fail, causing the floors above to pancake down.

And every item the so called "truthers" come up with can be quickly dismissed.

PR_Glen 09-11-2015 10:36 AM

a better question is do you really believe that the government, or any governing body would disclose weaknesses, acts of incompetence or ever admit they don't know all the answers themselves along with all the full details?

j3rkules 09-11-2015 10:40 AM

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wehateporn 09-11-2015 10:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PR_Glen (Post 20576977)
a better question is do you really believe that the government, or any governing body would disclose weaknesses, acts of incompetence or ever admit they don't know all the answers themselves along with all the full details?

This is it, it would have to be covered up, it would take a revolution to bring out the truth :2 cents:

BFT3K 09-11-2015 10:46 AM

All stories are believable, if you want them to be...

https://img0.etsystatic.com/043/0/70...30876_hhze.jpg

Take religion, for example...

bronco67 09-11-2015 10:50 AM

It's not a matter of believing the government or not. It's about having common sense.

DBS.US 09-11-2015 10:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20576973)
Every year this comes up. Same old story.

It's very simple. Two large airplanes full of fuel sliced through two tall towers. The combination of the impacts, the fact that they sliced the support holding up the upper floors, and the resulting fire caused the supports to fail, causing the floors above to pancake down.

And every item the so called "truthers" come up with can be quickly dismissed.


Sly 09-11-2015 10:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BFT3K (Post 20576988)
All stories are believable, if you want them to be...

Take religion, for example...

Like Andy Dick, this statement swings both ways.

Rochard 09-11-2015 10:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DBS.US (Post 20576992)

I've watched all of the videos; This morning on Netflix I watched "9/11 Science And Conspiracy". It's the same shit over and over again. Every last one of these items can be quickly dismissed.

"There was bangs in the basement before the tower fell". YOU THINK? Fireballs traveled down elevator shafts and exploded in the lobby. Didn't entire elevators crash down into the basement? Wouldn't it be strange if there wasn't "loud bangs" in the basement that day?

Joshua G 09-11-2015 11:02 AM

if the next president lets ISIS run wild like obama is, there will be another 911 attack on USA guaranteed. already happened when clinton was taking BJs under the desk while osama declared war on us.

all of this is hilarys fault. :2 cents:

fitzmulti 09-11-2015 11:05 AM

This shit again?
Why didn't you just bump one of the other old ass threads?
Pathetic.

Sly 09-11-2015 11:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joshua G (Post 20577006)
if the next president lets ISIS run wild like obama is, there will be another 911 attack on USA guaranteed. already happened when clinton was taking BJs under the desk while osama declared war on us.

all of this is hilarys fault. :2 cents:

If only she would have sucked some D!

Miguel T 09-11-2015 11:11 AM

Oh no... not again :|

DBS.US 09-11-2015 11:19 AM

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wehateporn 09-11-2015 11:27 AM


MiamiBoyz 09-11-2015 11:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20576973)
Every year this comes up. Same old story.

It's very simple. Two large airplanes full of fuel sliced through two tall towers. The combination of the impacts, the fact that they sliced the support holding up the upper floors, and the resulting fire caused the supports to fail, causing the floors above to pancake down.

And every item the so called "truthers" come up with can be quickly dismissed.


Same "old story" because you can't change reality unless you simply make the choice to not see it!


Of course it's all "OLD NEWS"...because it's been out there for a decade and yet people like you want to keep their heads in the sand about it.

It's much too terrifying for most people to think that their own government would do something so evil and manipulative to them...much like a child who can not even entertain the idea that their parent is not actually there to protect them unconditionally.

Simple cognitive dissonance on a national scale.

billywatson 09-11-2015 11:32 AM

My only issue is what I call the "Payne Stewart argument": in '99, pro golfer Payne Stewart's private jet ran into problems, and (I'll leave technical details out), within 10 minutes, F-16's were scrambled to see what was going down and to accompany the jet until it ran out of fuel and crashed.

How do commercial airliners, two years later, pull 180's and head back to major urban areas after being in the air for 45+ minutes and not one single jet is dispatched?

wehateporn 09-11-2015 11:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MiamiBoyz (Post 20577044)

Same "old story" because you can't change reality unless you simply make the choice to not see it!


Of course it's all "OLD NEWS"...because it's been out there for a decade and yet people like you want to keep their heads in the sand about it.

It's much too terrifying for most people to think that their own government would do something so evil and manipulative to them...much like a child who can not even entertain the idea that their parent is not actually there to protect them unconditionally.

Simple cognitive dissonance on a national scale.

You've summed that up rather well indeed :thumbsup

Sly 09-11-2015 12:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by billywatson (Post 20577046)
My only issue is what I call the "Payne Stewart argument": in '99, pro golfer Payne Stewart's private jet ran into problems, and (I'll leave technical details out), within 10 minutes, F-16's were scrambled to see what was going down and to accompany the jet until it ran out of fuel and crashed.

How do commercial airliners, two years later, pull 180's and head back to major urban areas after being in the air for 45+ minutes and not one single jet is dispatched?

I remember when this happened but don't know the full details of that flight, but this is talking about an hour and 20 minutes. It's also saying that there was failure to respond.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Payne_Stewart#Death

The pilot did not respond to air traffic controllers, an hour and 20 minutes later they were being escorted.

Rob 09-11-2015 12:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by billywatson (Post 20577046)
My only issue is what I call the "Payne Stewart argument": in '99, pro golfer Payne Stewart's private jet ran into problems, and (I'll leave technical details out), within 10 minutes, F-16's were scrambled to see what was going down and to accompany the jet until it ran out of fuel and crashed.

How do commercial airliners, two years later, pull 180's and head back to major urban areas after being in the air for 45+ minutes and not one single jet is dispatched?

To add to this, both United Flight 175 and American Air Flight 11 intersected directly over Stewart Air National Guard Base at nearly the exact same time. This is AFTER the transponders were turned off and a "hijack" was declared by the NTSB. They both flew over an Air National Guard base where they have planes and probably equipment to shoot down planes. Why didn't they do something then?

The evidence is quite damning and if you watch some of the documentaries, it's pretty damn obvious this wasn't done by some whack job terrorists. Who did it? We will probably never know, but it wasn't who they said it was, that's for damn sure. And I'm about the furthest you can get from a "Conspiracy Theorist". I'm just a critical thinker and don't accept what they try to spoon feed me.

Social cognitive dissonance is right, to a degree I've never, or most people here have ever witnessed. I've seen people damn near get into fist fights defending the government story. Even though anyone with half a brain can see right through it.

Rochard 09-11-2015 12:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MiamiBoyz (Post 20577044)

Same "old story" because you can't change reality unless you simply make the choice to not see it!


Of course it's all "OLD NEWS"...because it's been out there for a decade and yet people like you want to keep their heads in the sand about it.

It's much too terrifying for most people to think that their own government would do something so evil and manipulative to them...much like a child who can not even entertain the idea that their parent is not actually there to protect them unconditionally.

Simple cognitive dissonance on a national scale.

I've read everything and researched everything. I must have a dozen books about this. I have a physical copy of the 9/11 Commission report and so many others. There is NOTHING that cannot be explained by simple common sense.

"But why did WTC7 fall? It wasn't even hit". REALLY? Two large towers fell right in front of WTC. Just for a moment let's set aside the fact that this was like two strong earthquakes back to back.... They couldn't in or or out of WTC7 because there was so much debris that it completely blocked the exists on the sides closest to the two towers that fell. Hundreds of millions of tons of debris just fell at the foot of WTC7, pushing it completely off it's foundation. When the towers fell, they pretty much destroyed the entire side of WTC7. From the pictures it looks perfectly normal, but the pictures and video are from the far side because no one was on top of the debris taking pictures of the damage.

BFT3K 09-11-2015 02:31 PM

This one was just published (uploaded) today...



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3xgjxJwedA

wehateporn 09-11-2015 02:35 PM

I've been noticing quite a few non-"Conspiracy Theorist" critical thinkers like yourself coming onboard the 9/11 Truth movement in the last couple of years

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob (Post 20577085)
To add to this, both United Flight 175 and American Air Flight 11 intersected directly over Stewart Air National Guard Base at nearly the exact same time. This is AFTER the transponders were turned off and a "hijack" was declared by the NTSB. They both flew over an Air National Guard base where they have planes and probably equipment to shoot down planes. Why didn't they do something then?

The evidence is quite damning and if you watch some of the documentaries, it's pretty damn obvious this wasn't done by some whack job terrorists. Who did it? We will probably never know, but it wasn't who they said it was, that's for damn sure. And I'm about the furthest you can get from a "Conspiracy Theorist". I'm just a critical thinker and don't accept what they try to spoon feed me.

Social cognitive dissonance is right, to a degree I've never, or most people here have ever witnessed. I've seen people damn near get into fist fights defending the government story. Even though anyone with half a brain can see right through it.


Tdash 09-11-2015 03:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20577099)
I've read everything and researched everything. I must have a dozen books about this. I have a physical copy of the 9/11 Commission report and so many others. There is NOTHING that cannot be explained by simple common sense.

"But why did WTC7 fall? It wasn't even hit". REALLY? Two large towers fell right in front of WTC. Just for a moment let's set aside the fact that this was like two strong earthquakes back to back.... They couldn't in or or out of WTC7 because there was so much debris that it completely blocked the exists on the sides closest to the two towers that fell. Hundreds of millions of tons of debris just fell at the foot of WTC7, pushing it completely off it's foundation. When the towers fell, they pretty much destroyed the entire side of WTC7. From the pictures it looks perfectly normal, but the pictures and video are from the far side because no one was on top of the debris taking pictures of the damage.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh
wow you're a dumb fuck.

wehateporn 09-11-2015 03:54 PM

Billboard in New York now


DBS.US 09-11-2015 04:39 PM


Relic 09-11-2015 05:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20577099)
I've read everything and researched everything. I must have a dozen books about this. I have a physical copy of the 9/11 Commission report and so many others. There is NOTHING that cannot be explained by simple common sense.

"But why did WTC7 fall? It wasn't even hit". REALLY? Two large towers fell right in front of WTC. Just for a moment let's set aside the fact that this was like two strong earthquakes back to back.... They couldn't in or or out of WTC7 because there was so much debris that it completely blocked the exists on the sides closest to the two towers that fell. Hundreds of millions of tons of debris just fell at the foot of WTC7, pushing it completely off it's foundation. When the towers fell, they pretty much destroyed the entire side of WTC7. From the pictures it looks perfectly normal, but the pictures and video are from the far side because no one was on top of the debris taking pictures of the damage.

Quote:

Agent Smith: Why isn't this serum working?
Agent Brown: Perhaps we're asking the wrong questions.
Agent Smith: Leave me with him. Now.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Squib

huey 09-12-2015 06:31 AM

Any one that thinks building 7 did not have help coming down are true sheep.

Relic 09-13-2015 12:35 AM

A never ending row.

klinton 09-13-2015 12:46 AM

many theories...could be also that ben laden was "allowed" to do that by US government to later exploit that fact with war on terror and more control and wars (and money for some people, and for others - fear mongering)

simply- they knew whats gonna happen and they allowed it to happen

StinkyPink 09-13-2015 03:26 AM

Lets just say that before 9/11 there is no way Americans would have let the Bush administration get away with signing the patriot act. So they had to do what they had to do.

MiamiBoyz 09-13-2015 04:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StinkyPink (Post 20578242)
Lets just say that before 9/11 there is no way Americans would have let the Bush administration get away with signing the patriot act. So they had to do what they had to do.

:thumbsup:thumbsup

abreu 09-13-2015 04:51 AM

I advise to watch documentary movie "Zero: An Investigation Into 9/11" by Giulietto Chiesa. I think you'll find a lot of answers there

Serge Litehead 09-13-2015 06:42 AM

and then year and a half later we went in to Iraq on a premise of weapons of mass destruction.

the hits of invading Iraq were planted yearly on right after 9/11

2MuchMark 09-13-2015 10:35 AM

I think that George W Bush and Dick Cheeney are war criminals that deserve to spend the rest of their days in prison for the incredible amount of lies they spewed out of their fucking mouths back then (and still do today), but I still don't think any of the buildings fell because of controlled demolition.

EngineCash 09-14-2015 01:06 AM

Same story again... It is logical and many people can believe that the USA did this by themselves, because they needed a reason to go in open war with the muslim world for the oil of course... To sad, for all the victims.... :(

kane 09-14-2015 02:14 AM

Allow me to ask this question. If you are a US citizen and you really, truly believe that the US government was behind the 9/11 attacks why do you still live in this country? If I found out beyond any doubt that the US government killed over 3,500 of its citizens so they could start a war and pass some laws I would leave. I don't delude myself into thinking I would leave tomorrow, but I would begin the process of moving to a country that doesn't wage war against its own citizens.

XMaster 09-14-2015 02:28 AM

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