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axel77 03-12-2021 12:39 PM

Piracy takedowns
 
A specific tube sites uploading content and ignoring take down notices. Any advice?

Ferus 03-12-2021 12:47 PM

https://www.pirat.io/

OneHungLo 03-12-2021 08:03 PM

Have you tried the host?

celandina 03-13-2021 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Ferus (Post 22832248)

They do not list costs. Any idea?

Ferus 03-13-2021 07:53 AM

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Originally Posted by celandina (Post 22832463)
They do not list costs. Any idea?

Depends on what service you want, you need to talk to them

Brian mike 03-13-2021 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by axel77 (Post 22832246)
A specific tube sites uploading content and ignoring take down notices. Any advice?

Try This Kevin Wright

PornDiscounts-V 03-13-2021 09:04 PM

Get a local guy to break the legs of the site owner. In many countries it can be done for as little as $250.

semiraga 03-13-2021 10:30 PM

https://support.google.com/legal/tro.../1114905?hl=en

hamiltonsteele 03-14-2021 06:18 AM

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Originally Posted by axel77 (Post 22832246)
A specific tube sites uploading content and ignoring take down notices. Any advice?

Start by contacting the host and if that's not possible then contact the registrar.

RycEric 03-14-2021 06:44 PM

Pirate ID – Unmask Pirates Without Litgation – [email protected]

:thumbsup:thumbsup

OneHungLo 03-14-2021 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by RycEric (Post 22832901)

Does this company subpoena the domain registry with the hopes the pirate registered the domain with a real name?

Have you used them? Website looks shifty.

RycEric 03-14-2021 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by OneHungLo (Post 22832905)
Does this company subpoena the domain registry with the hopes the pirate registered the domain with a real name?

Have you used them? Website looks shifty.

That's because I suck at web design. We've shut down a number of large sites. The ones who don't run off, avoid posting the content again. Most of the information comes from CloudFlare - where 90% of pirates sit now btw. They give you a beautiful package.. almost everything except the operator's (or operators') shoe size.

RyuLion 03-14-2021 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by RycEric (Post 22832928)
That's because I suck at web design. We've shut down a number of large sites. The ones who don't run off, avoid posting the content again. Most of the information comes from CloudFlare - where 90% of pirates sit now btw. They give you a beautiful package.. almost everything except the operator's (or operators') shoe size.

I would love to hear which large sites you've managed to shutdown.
90% of pirate what?

Are you talking about removeyourcontent.com ?

RycEric 03-14-2021 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by RyuLion (Post 22832945)
I would love to hear which large sites you've managed to shutdown.
90% of pirate what?

Are you talking about removeyourcontent.com ?

(Edit) 90% of pirate domains use Cloudflare. That's the largest repository of illegal and pirate domains on the planet.
If you know of a larger service provider, helping these guys stay online, please tell me.

I can tell you in private but I'm not disclosing them here and NO I am not. If you knew anything about subpoenas, you would know that they are for rights enforcement only.. not PR.

k0nr4d 03-15-2021 01:37 AM

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Originally Posted by RycEric (Post 22832928)
That's because I suck at web design. We've shut down a number of large sites. The ones who don't run off, avoid posting the content again. Most of the information comes from CloudFlare - where 90% of pirates sit now btw. They give you a beautiful package.. almost everything except the operator's (or operators') shoe size.

It seems like cloudflare could at most give you is the actual IP address of the server.

baodb 03-15-2021 01:44 AM

Cloudflare is a CDN/reverse proxy. They do not host content so I don't know what you mean with biggest pirate provider?

There are also several ways to get the true origin behind cloudflare without having to speak to them or getting it directly from cloudflare.

RycEric 03-15-2021 07:03 AM

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Originally Posted by k0nr4d (Post 22832962)
It seems like cloudflare could at most give you is the actual IP address of the server.

You get a lot more and if it's a paid account (most are especially on the big sites).. you will get ALL payment-related forms and details..Name, address, phone, emails, etc. Additionally, you get zone changes (other domains) and IP entry/exits logs dating back to day one.

Ferus 03-15-2021 07:06 AM

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Originally Posted by RycEric (Post 22833020)
You get a lot more and if it's a paid account (most are especially on the big sites).. you will get ALL payment-related forms and details..Name, address, phone, emails, etc. Additionally, you get zone changes (other domains) and IP entry/exits logs dating back to day one.

https://i.imgur.com/p4VJHkd.png

RycEric 03-15-2021 07:07 AM

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Originally Posted by baodb (Post 22832963)
Cloudflare is a CDN/reverse proxy. They do not host content so I don't know what you mean with biggest pirate provider?

There are also several ways to get the true origin behind cloudflare without having to speak to them or getting it directly from cloudflare.

Yes, they are a provider. I didn't say they were a host.
https://www.copyright.gov/dmca-directory/ (Provider)

Indeed there are, however, you will won't get billing details and any relevant whois since most of it is faked. If you are faking billing, you are smarter than the average bear.
Domaintools historical has basically been wiped now do to GDPR.

RycEric 03-15-2021 07:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Ferus (Post 22833022)

I've been here for over 10 years, why would I have any reason to bullshit? :1orglaugh
https://torrentfreak.com/after-henta...inexus-210206/

TheLegacy 03-15-2021 07:12 AM

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Originally Posted by RycEric (Post 22833020)
You get a lot more and if it's a paid account (most are especially on the big sites).. you will get ALL payment-related forms and details..Name, address, phone, emails, etc. Additionally, you get zone changes (other domains) and IP entry/exits logs dating back to day one.

Very impressed with your knowledge - will keep your site and contact info for future reference and recommendations. Thank you.

RycEric 03-15-2021 07:24 AM

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Originally Posted by TheLegacy (Post 22833028)
Very impressed with your knowledge - will keep your site and contact info for future reference and recommendations. Thank you.

Thanks Robert! :thumbsup

Ferus 03-15-2021 07:26 AM

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Originally Posted by RycEric (Post 22833027)
why would I have any reason to bullshit? :1orglaugh

It's not my job to speculate "why" you would make such claims, but I do know Cloudflare would not "just" disclose the information you mentioned, based on unchallendgend claims by third-party representatives.

You might have repeated that story to yourself for the last 1o years, so you have started to belive in it yourself, but that dont make it the truth.

Disclosing it without first providing notice and the opportunity to consent, is against the privacy laws where Cloudflare, Inc. is based.

celandina 03-15-2021 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by RycEric (Post 22832901)

Funny, I would love to see how a subpoena would work in Moldova or Albania :1orglaugh

celandina 03-15-2021 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by RycEric (Post 22833020)
You get a lot more and if it's a paid account (most are especially on the big sites).. you will get ALL payment-related forms and details..Name, address, phone, emails, etc. Additionally, you get zone changes (other domains) and IP entry/exits logs dating back to day one.

Actual cut and paste:

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Matthew (Cloudflare Trust & Safety)

May 22, 2020, 10:54:10 AM GMT+1

Hello,

Nameservers do not indicate where a website is hosted, the website doesn't resolve to an IP address controlled by us. We cannot remove content from an IP address which doesn't belong to us.
Claoudflare will do jack shit :2 cents:

celandina 03-15-2021 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Ferus (Post 22832466)
Depends on what service you want, you need to talk to them

Even a hooker posts her rates , so no thanks :2 cents:

RycEric 03-15-2021 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by celandina (Post 22833056)
Actual cut and paste:

Claoudflare will do jack shit :2 cents:

Yes... good.. good.. Let the hate Flo0000ow through you. :winkwink:
I know what I'm doing. If I can help you, please feel free to contact.

RycEric 03-15-2021 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Ferus (Post 22833032)
It's not my job to speculate "why" you would make such claims, but I do know Cloudflare would not "just" disclose the information you mentioned, based on unchallendgend claims by third-party representatives.

You might have repeated that story to yourself for the last 1o years, so you have started to belive in it yourself, but that dont make it the truth.

Disclosing it without first providing notice and the opportunity to consent, is against the privacy laws where Cloudflare, Inc. is based.

A subpoena is a court order my friend. If I can help, contact me and let's chat.

OneHungLo 03-15-2021 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by celandina (Post 22833056)
Actual cut and paste:



Claoudflare will do jack shit :2 cents:

I think what he's saying is, if someone is using Ccloudflare's paid service, a subpoena will force them to turn over all the information they have for that customer.

celandina 03-16-2021 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by OneHungLo (Post 22833142)
I think what he's saying is, if someone is using Ccloudflare's paid service, a subpoena will force them to turn over all the information they have for that customer.

Hmmm, I guess 25 K retainer up front :2 cents: If it was that easy there would be NO piracy.:2 cents::2 cents:

baodb 03-16-2021 09:11 AM

I too would like to see proof that it is economically viable to get customer information out of CloudFlare for piracy cases. I don't doubt it can be done, but at scale and in a way where it makes financial sense? I would be shocked if so...

SpicyM 03-16-2021 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by RycEric (Post 22833020)
You get a lot more and if it's a paid account (most are especially on the big sites).. you will get ALL payment-related forms and details..Name, address, phone, emails, etc. Additionally, you get zone changes (other domains) and IP entry/exits logs dating back to day one.

Ok, we can get the info... then what?

SpicyM 03-16-2021 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by baodb (Post 22833453)
I too would like to see proof that it is economically viable to get customer information out of CloudFlare for piracy cases. I don't doubt it can be done, but at scale and in a way where it makes financial sense? I would be shocked if so...


In Europe, you can file a criminal complaint for piracy. It's totally free :winkwink:

SpicyM 03-16-2021 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by celandina (Post 22833423)
Hmmm, I guess 25 K retainer up front :2 cents: If it was that easy there would be NO piracy.:2 cents::2 cents:

Having a lawyer send an official letter with notice to the site owner would prolly not cost more than 500€. The question is, if it's still worth it and what is the possible outcome. He may just delete the scenes and that's it. If he doesn't delete them, then what? Filing a criminal complaint could be effective - but you don't need a lawyer for that.

SpicyM 03-16-2021 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by axel77 (Post 22832246)
A specific tube sites uploading content and ignoring take down notices. Any advice?

Where are you from?

Contact the domain registrant using the email addy in their whois, as that one must be correct (if it is not correct, contact the domain registrar) and request them to remove all your content with a simple warning that if they fail to do so you will file a criminal complaint for piracy. If they ignore that, try getting his hosting company info from Cloud Flare and email them with the same warning. If they ignore that, file a criminal complaint.

Companies can be held liable, so if they ignore piracy, they can face criminal charges.

baodb 03-16-2021 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by SpicyM (Post 22833456)
In Europe, you can file a criminal complaint for piracy. It's totally free :winkwink:

Yeah, I think you can do that everywhere in the world. The question is what does the police with your complaint, how long will they take to do anything and then how will cloudflare react to it should it ever come to them.

If I run to the police in Europe because I am losing money on a leaked content every day, what do you think are the chances a US company will take down content/give me information any acceptable timeframe/at all?

JesseQuinn 03-16-2021 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by RycEric (Post 22832901)
removeyourcontent.com

I had to check my email history as this was years ago but your company helped me out -for free- when I was dealing with a pirate issue and was kinda new to all this

knew your biz name was familiar. y'all helped me solve the issue and actually provided me with info I've passed on to dozens of peeps over the years

Tony was his name, the dude who was so helpful to me

+1 for your company. and thank you =)

OneHungLo 03-16-2021 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by celandina (Post 22833423)
Hmmm, I guess 25 K retainer up front :2 cents: If it was that easy there would be NO piracy.:2 cents::2 cents:

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Originally Posted by baodb (Post 22833453)
I too would like to see proof that it is economically viable to get customer information out of CloudFlare for piracy cases. I don't doubt it can be done, but at scale and in a way where it makes financial sense? I would be shocked if so...

Eric could you give us some ballpark figures to get this information? And what would be the next step once you've obtained it if they are not based in the US?

RycEric 03-16-2021 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by SpicyM (Post 22833456)
In Europe, you can file a criminal complaint for piracy. It's totally free :winkwink:

Thanks, this does not involve law enforcement (unless you get the results and want it too). Also, law enforcement will not help adult in the US. The FBI told me, unless it involves "guns or drugs, we don't have the resources."
they said it's also "not good PR" for them ;)

RycEric 03-16-2021 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by JesseQuinn (Post 22833511)
I had to check my email history as this was years ago but your company helped me out -for free- when I was dealing with a pirate issue and was kinda new to all this

knew your biz name was familiar. y'all helped me solve the issue and actually provided me with info I've passed on to dozens of peeps over the years

Tony was his name, the dude who was so helpful to me

+1 for your company. and thank you =)

Thanks! Tony is still with me ;) He's contracting but definitely on the team :thumbsup


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