Chinese missile could shift Pacific power balance
 

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100805/...carrier_killer

President Hu Jintao Reviews Chinese Troops [China's National Day, Chinese Military Parade 2009]
https://youtube.com/watch?v=JRTTH5HW6GQ

http://s2.blomedia.pl/gadzetomania.p...ng-feng-21.jpg

Never forget it's COMMUNIST China.


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what? no.. we have ZE BEST DEFENSES

I hope they put a base in Cancun, Mexico.

Serves us yanks right.

40 years ago China was on the brink of a precipice. With famine, disease and an industry that could hardly function. In less than 40 years selling the West everything it can, we now have the Chinese leaders in a position to dictate to us. We need their money and they do as they please.

So, keep the carriers 901 miles out.

Red China will not risk the kind of shit that could come down should it attack a US carrier force, especially if that carrier force is operating in the defense of or in copperation with South Korea's forces.

Commies they maybe; they are not stupid.

Sally.

or they could attack, push out south korea and leave japan as the last democratic power in the region

if there was a time to officially attack the united states, that time would definitely be now

Assuming it is just posturing is a mistake.

oh noes... the chinks are going to hurl dongs at us...

the US would nuke the shit out of those slopes if they ever struck one of our carriers..

of course, they would nuke us right back...



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The Red Chinese really have nothing of significance with which to "nuke us back".

ICBM Inventory:

"Chinese Designations Western Designations Range [km] IOC inventory
DF-3 [none] 10,000 cancelled --
DF-5 CSS-4 13,000 1981 20
DF-6 [none] 15,000 cancelled --
DF-22 DF-14 8,000 cancelled --
DF-31 (DF-31A) CSS-X-9 7,250 ? 2003 0
DF-41 CSS-X-10 11,270 2010 0

Nuke inventory:

There is considerable uncertainly in published estimates of the size of the Chinese nuclear weapons stockpile. In the late 1980s it was generally held that China was the world's third-largest nuclear power, possessing a small but credible nuclear deterrent force of 225 to 300 nuclear weapons. Other estimates of the country's production capacities suggested that by the end of 1970 China had fabricated around 200 nuclear weapons, a number which could have increased to 875 by 1980. With an average annual production of 75 nuclear weapons during the 1980s, some estimates suggest that by the mid-1990s the Chinese nuclear industry had produced around 2,000 nuclear weapons for ballistic missiles, bombers, artillery projectiles and landmines.

Source:

globalsecurity.org

Sally.

nobody is using nukes till people are about to lose power.. using a nuke would result in global condemnation and the abrupt end to any sort of political reliability

exactly why china gave north korea a nuke, but that's my guess

are you in Cancun?

when china adopted a market economy it ceased being communist. hth

lol I love Americans.

I'd like to see one of those up against a phalanx cannon

Ah, now I see why they are building $30 million stadiums for free all over the Caribbean.

While they're building above ground, they're probably building below ground as well...

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that article says the missle goes at 10x the speed of sound.

HAHAHAHA !

Americans are so cute :)

China OWNS you, and whether you like it or not you need China more than China needs you. Notice how you are taking every possible step not to anger China while still managing to save face ... its pretty to watch.

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hardly.

you obviously don't understand the buyer/seller relationship.

You obviously are failing to factor in debt.

that debt is worthless, you know that right?

Can you explain that ?

Are you suggesting you guys can just "not pay China back" ?? I hear that a lot from Americans.

Damm thats some show of force in that video

The trouble with that big US carrier is its gonna cost way more to maintain and use than those Chinese Missles

I'm sure the carrier groups are scared shitless.

http://militarytimes.com/blogs/scoop...10/04/CIWS.jpg

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I hope China becomes the top dog so when any country is in trouble or needs a little cash they will go to the chinese instead of where they go now. America sucks until you need their help.

China doesn't need a bomb to bring down the US. They just need to start cashing in all the IOU's and collapse the economy. Then they'll all just eat eachother like rats...

Yep, sad but true and SCARY i might add ! :Oh crap

i mean the reason they buy our debt is 2-fold.

1. they have to put their moeny somewhere, u.s t-bills are historically THE place to do that and continue to be, China gets favorable worldwide credit ratings etc from this as well.

2. by buying our t-bills, the added cash adds to the u.s. overall credit pool, allowing americans to buy more chinese made shit on credit.

but if push came to shove, the u.s. could not pay out on those t-bills if china tried to dump them, *cash* them and it will be that way for a long time, prolly forever. they are worthless in that respect, the action of buying them simply perpetuates the credit system.

both sides need both sides, in fact, i'd wager china needs us slightly more but that's besides the point. the real cash money comes from consumer goods bought/sold daily. we are china's biggest customer. would you fuck your best (by far) customer in the ass if the majority of your worth is based on them? of course not.

Curious if this is going to change the 90,000 member downsize of the US Navy? 55,000 have already been sent home.

here's a better explanation than mine-

"Over the past two decades, the United States and China have developed a special relationship based on the safety of U.S. debt. In essence, the United States gives China access to the wealthiest consumer market in the world, which in turn soaks up China’s massive output of consumer goods. This not only provides income for Chinese exporters, but also helps ensure social stability in China by providing employment — which is Beijing’s primary economic policy goal. China in turn invests its large trade surpluses, earned in U.S. dollars, into U.S. Treasury debt (e.g., 30-year bonds or 10-year notes). This allows China to store its earnings in one of the largest and most liquid financial markets in the world, without needing to convert between currencies. Meanwhile, the recycling of surpluses into Treasury instruments helps to bankroll continued U.S. spending. It is vendor financing on a global scale."

Barack Hussein Obama hates the USA and will do anything to undermine its postion as a World power.

Sally.

Obama is making missiles for the Chinese now. That bastard!!!!

welcome to the watch list

Lol ... and the 'no fly' list ;)

simply put: if china decides to stop giving money to the US you can close doors :2 cents: no more weapons, no more credit, no more living on debts - how wud ya cope with that? CHIMERICA IS THE TRUTH and without china the US wud fall like a dead man :2 cents:

Even if it could, why would China destroy it's best customer? The U.S. is the biggest whale of a customer ever.

Oh I never meant to suggest there wouldn't be rather serious consequences for China. Even if they dumped their US bonds before they matured, they would take a gigantic financial hit and yes their number 1 customer would pretty much be wiped off the financial map and unable to buy anything.

Though Chinese are more capable of living in poverty if circumstance dictated it, and they do have a TON of other customers who would definitely keep buying. The US on the other hand would have a totally worthless dollar, and suffer post war German levels of hyperinflation .. it would pretty much be the end of the US as we know it.. and we all know Americans have never had to deal with true poverty.

America isn't going to attack China, and while China will prod the US from time to time, they aren't gonna attack you guys either. In 10 years they will be the world superpower anyway, and they know to just sit back and wait. America is digging its own grave ... that free trade agreement didn't work out too well for the US unfortunately.

America is quickly becoming that popular jock in high-school who fucked half the cheerleaders and now, 10+ years later, sports a beer gut, has a shit job selling insurance, lives for weekends, and won't shut up about what a badass he was back in the day and still claims he can kick your ass.

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