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Old 12-04-2010, 01:12 PM   #1
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Body scanners coming to trains, subways and boats.

Enjoy America!

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Old 12-04-2010, 01:14 PM   #2
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Probably much of the reason is business. If it's done only by the airlines many people will just avoid flying to the detriment of the airlines. But make it everywhere and people are more apt to accept it and it won't hurt the airlines as much.
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Old 12-04-2010, 01:26 PM   #3
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all will be left to do next is to put body scanner outside each and every door
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all will be left to do next is to put body scanner outside each and every door
Looking on the bright side, a new micro niche perhaps?
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Old 12-04-2010, 02:28 PM   #5
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That will help get the life expectancies right down which will sort out the pensions crisis
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Wouldn't it be easier if we all just had RFID chips installed into our skin and it would tell on us if it could detect any explosive device? ;-)

Don't worry, give it a few years and the people will BEG for them if it will make their life more convenient and it will cut back on scanning and groping.

Baby steps....
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Wouldn't it be easier if we all just had RFID chips installed into our skin and it would tell on us if it could detect any explosive device? ;-)

Don't worry, give it a few years and the people will BEG for them if it will make their life more convenient and it will cut back on scanning and groping.

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All this talk reminded of Megadeth's latest album "Endgame" ...

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Like the article says, who has to board the train to blow it up when there is tens of thousands of miles of exposed track?

Plus, anyone can run a boat full of explosives into the side of a ship. Didn't USS Cole teach us that?

This whole body scanner business is ridiculous.
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What company makes the body scanners? I want to buy it's stock
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Old 12-05-2010, 12:42 PM   #11
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Ask the head of tsa.......
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Old 12-05-2010, 12:55 PM   #13
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Like the article says, who has to board the train to blow it up when there is tens of thousands of miles of exposed track?
Same goes for blowing up an airplane. All you need is to be a minimum wage baggage handler, and you can put whatever the fuck you want on the plane.
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same goes for sinking a boat... but this shit will give enough people false security that it WILL come to be.
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i think it's great that america's government is preparing for widespread social unrest because they are aware of and helpless to stop the economy from disintegrating, and doing it under the guise of anti-terrorism in order not to create too much panic.

when the shit hits the fan next year you will be happy a police state has been set up over the last decade in order to maintain order.
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i think it's great that america's government is preparing for widespread social unrest because they are aware of and helpless to stop the economy from disintegrating, and doing it under the guise of anti-terrorism in order not to create too much panic.

when the shit hits the fan next year you will be happy a police state has been set up over the last decade in order to maintain order.
all we need now is for the Pre-Crime departments to be set up so we can start arresting people before they commit any unlawful acts.
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all we need now is for the Pre-Crime departments to be set up so we can start arresting people before they commit any unlawful acts.
Already done, kinda. Didn't you hear about the guys who got arrested for playing chess in a park? lol... what a world.
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If you created such a product, you would want to sell it everywhere as well.
What I don't like is that everything is sold on the basis of fear nowadays.
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Like the article says, who has to board the train to blow it up when there is tens of thousands of miles of exposed track?

Plus, anyone can run a boat full of explosives into the side of a ship. Didn't USS Cole teach us that?

This whole body scanner business is ridiculous.
Or shoot down a plane with a RPG rocket launcher as it takes off or lands. I know you can get dangerously close to many airports in some areas where the planes are so low flying over neighbor hoods you can hit them with fireworks.

In all reality, if some nut wants to commit mass murder, all they need to do is walk into a mall on a Saturday evening and detonate. Or worse, a school. What about blowing up the area outside security at the airport? Or a ball game? Or Sunday church?

If you gave me 20 or 30 Jihadist ready to die for the cause, I could bring any nation to its knees within 2 weeks.

All this leads me to believe there are only two options regarding all of this:

1) The terrorists are totally inept.

2) There is no such thing.

Which is it?
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the two best emotions to illicit when trying to control a population is fear and anger and they are using them as best they can. The general American populace is fearful and mad... all the time now. I do not think that the Government is doing it intentionally to control us. I think they are doing it to appear pro-active and to win votes. But put someone in the white house with bad (good) intentions and a compliant or partner congress and it makes for an Orwellian scenario that can be logically imagined to the extreme. I am loathe to admit it but right now I am afraid of my Government as an individual
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i think it's great that america's government is preparing for widespread social unrest because they are aware of and helpless to stop the economy from disintegrating, and doing it under the guise of anti-terrorism in order not to create too much panic.

when the shit hits the fan next year you will be happy a police state has been set up over the last decade in order to maintain order.
While I will not be happy of any police state, I do agree with you. This all may be to prepare the USA for the shit storm that is just starting to brew. Sooner or later the levy will break if things don't get turned around. It's a big IF but they have to be ready for it.

I'm staying on this side of the world for a while.
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Wondering why Al Qaeda has never attacked Israel even though they supposedly have people working everywhere around it and have attacked pretty much every other country at least once. Isn't Israel their #1 enemy? Weird.
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the way this is going soon people will be snitching on their neighbours..people will disappear on made up charges

there is an old story about stalin
stalin couldnt find his favourite pipe one day, so he told his internal security about it, and an official investigation was launched....well soon after Stalin found his pipe, he had put it in a different drawer then normal, so when he told his security about it...they replied, but sir...3 people have already confessed to the crime

its coming...history is always repeated sadly
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AKA racial profiling. Stop that black guy - he's probably going to commit a crime if he hasn't already!
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America sucks.
Canada isn't far behind, Amp. Our airport security is run by our government (since 2002), and there's a bit of a mess about public servants groping young girls going around the news right now. Out of court settlements = my tax dollars at work. Don't ask for your government to take over security - it won't improve the situation.

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$2.2 billion Canadian taxpayers pay (its an old article, too - its worse now) for airport security in a pissant country like Canada. Pissant = small population and small taxpayer base. Its a heavy fucking per-capita tax burden with next to no benefits.

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All those crazy "conspiracy theorist" don't seem so crazy now do they? They have been warning of this for years.

Welcome to the New World Order bitches!

For those who STILL can't see what's coming down, you will soon.
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I really don't see this happening in a metro. Do you have any idea the amount of people who use a metro/subway system everyday? the amount of time it would take to go through the scanners/body checks would be foooooking nuts.
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Or shoot down a plane with a RPG rocket launcher as it takes off or lands. I know you can get dangerously close to many airports in some areas where the planes are so low flying over neighbor hoods you can hit them with fireworks.

In all reality, if some nut wants to commit mass murder, all they need to do is walk into a mall on a Saturday evening and detonate. Or worse, a school. What about blowing up the area outside security at the airport? Or a ball game? Or Sunday church?

If you gave me 20 or 30 Jihadist ready to die for the cause, I could bring any nation to its knees within 2 weeks.

All this leads me to believe there are only two options regarding all of this:

1) The terrorists are totally inept.

2) There is no such thing.

Which is it?
I would go for fwys overpasses and bridges... when traffic stops completly people will make things change
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sad thing is that brainwashed people who follow the government like sheep are all for it and are just digging their own graves with a big smile.
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freedom to fascism

btw: won't be long before they're doing the same in the EU.
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Didnt you guys see the coup?

Dont ya remember when those planes hit the world trade center.

What do you think the patriot act was about. Protecting people?

lols...
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Didnt you guys see the coup?

Dont ya remember when those planes hit the world trade center.

What do you think the patriot act was about. Protecting people?

lols...
What a remarkable feat that the USA Patriot Act (containing 340 pages, and amending more than 50 current federal statutes) was submitted to Congress September 24th, just 13 days after the attack.

..Just enough time to take the pre-written bill off the shelf, blow the dust off, and submit it to Congress.

It's also incredibly coincidental how two of the Senators who attempted to slow passage of the bill, Patrick Leahy and Senate Majority Leader Tom Daschle, were targeted with letters containing weaponized anthrax delivered to their offices on October 9th.

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I would react. But i am afraid. I need an Esta travelform and when Big Brother reads this i am afraid i am not able to fly to the USA. I have visitied wikileaks.nl and i think they see all ip's that visited that site. When i fill in the ESTA forms they can connect both my ip numbers. I dont want a glass dildo in my ass so they can take a look if i smuggle or carry bombs. The company name 'RapeScan' sounds a little bit scary.

I have a laptop with me. Maybe wikileaks is in the explorer cache and than i will be prosecuted for traveling with classified documents.
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i heard sometime early next year they will also have these in grocery stores, malls and sports arenas.

By Oct 2011 they will make each American purchase one to put in your home to ensure you are not carrying any explosives devices into your car
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Or shoot down a plane with a RPG rocket launcher as it takes off or lands. I know you can get dangerously close to many airports in some areas where the planes are so low flying over neighbor hoods you can hit them with fireworks.

In all reality, if some nut wants to commit mass murder, all they need to do is walk into a mall on a Saturday evening and detonate. Or worse, a school. What about blowing up the area outside security at the airport? Or a ball game? Or Sunday church?

If you gave me 20 or 30 Jihadist ready to die for the cause, I could bring any nation to its knees within 2 weeks.

All this leads me to believe there are only two options regarding all of this:

1) The terrorists are totally inept.

2) There is no such thing.

Which is it?
There is nothing to stop them and nothing to protect us. Period. An oil tanker into a gas station would do it, not to mention an oil tanker into an oil tank farm... We drive past one off the freeway and I swear if someone wanted to they could fly through the chain link fence and bam.

But it's getting to the point where it doesn't bother us any more. A shooter at a mall? Happens all the time. (Gunman set my local mall on fire last month and burned half of it down.) Gonna derail a train? These items might be in the news for a day or two, but otherwise no big deal already.

Sad really.
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Pretty soon it will be malls and movie theaters....
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i heard sometime early next year they will also have these in grocery stores, malls and sports arenas.

By Oct 2011 they will make each American purchase one to put in your home to ensure you are not carrying any explosives devices into your car


Sad thing is, people reading this thread will believe you!
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