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Old 01-26-2011, 07:33 AM   #51
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I guess since Obama didn't part the waters we will go back to the usual...worshipping Idols
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Old 01-26-2011, 07:41 AM   #52
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Obama spoke of a better educated American workforce. With the costs of higher education having skyrocketed in the past 10 years how are the working poor to afford any higher education for their children to elevate their future prosperity?

Government subsidies to pay for this costly education will never happen in sufficient quantity. Why should it anyway?

I am disappointed that the potential for "Internet College" and the savings that could be achieved was not brought up.

In all, just "lip service" to his proposed "reinventing of America" ? looks to me as business as usual in Washington DC ? more chicken in every pot and pass the donation plate ...
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Old 01-26-2011, 09:03 AM   #53
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Who cares what Obama says? He has proven himself to be a massive liar. He makes Bill Clinton look like an amateur prevaricator.

The economy won't improve until Obama is voted out of office.

This generation will hopefully have its Jimmy Carter/ Ronald Reagan moment, when the reins are handed over --and things instantly improve.
.. so true... That is why, instead, I replayed the State of the Union ( or Onion ) speech of Feb. 2003 : it is a perfect example of massive truth ....
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Old 01-26-2011, 09:26 AM   #54
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He said he wanted it repealed and such, so first steps. He has started implementing other programs already that are working that will hopefully replace No Child Left Behind.
link to where he said he wants to repeal it?
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Old 01-26-2011, 09:46 AM   #55
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Oh no deflation?! You mean poor people would actually be able to buy more with their money? That cant happen! We must inflate our money 20% so they can buy less! Why does the government hate poor people?
Do you have any examples of how poor people fared well in past deflations?

Poor people don't have liquidity now, so how do collapsing prices help them? How does even more unemployment help?

Also, why do you equate not wanting a deflationary collapse with hating poor people?
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Old 01-26-2011, 10:02 AM   #56
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Three Responses to Obama SOTU

Republican response
https://youtube.com/watch?v=kA4H8...layer_embedded

Tea Party Express Response
https://youtube.com/watch?v=1fRxO...layer_embedded

Libertarian Response
https://youtube.com/watch?v=YepUK...layer_embedded
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Old 01-26-2011, 10:21 AM   #57
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Obama is good at one liner speeches, it's like a series of quotes, one after another,Never looking at the camera in front of him, he can't look you in the eyes when he's lying. I liked the GOP response better, but not by much.

Barry said the same things he has always said, he wants more money to spend, I just keep remembering that Japan did 10 years of stimulus and it didn't work. And I'm still against raising the taxes on the top 2% to pay for Barry's ream, I mean dream.

Under Pelosi the country went 5.32 trillion deeper in debt, time to change the battle plan.

But his speech was aimed at those that still believe in unicorns, that Canadians are somehow qualified to discuss American politics and that putting 30 million people on entitlements for free healthcare will some how save money.

I do love that he AGAIN promised not to sign any bill with ear marks and he went on about American Exceptionalism when he bowed to how many country leaders in the last 2 years?

But hey the democrats and liberals are loving that his numbers are going up, forgetting that he's the leader by office, when the overall feeling of dread goes up for the government, Barry's numbers will go up, it's that they have a little more faith in the government, not Barry.
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Old 01-26-2011, 10:23 AM   #58
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link to where he said he wants to repeal it?
In his speech he said he wanted to replace it with his plan
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Old 01-26-2011, 12:56 PM   #59
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Obama is good at one liner speeches, it's like a series of quotes, one after another,Never looking at the camera in front of him, he can't look you in the eyes when he's lying. I liked the GOP response better, but not by much.

Barry said the same things he has always said, he wants more money to spend, I just keep remembering that Japan did 10 years of stimulus and it didn't work. And I'm still against raising the taxes on the top 2% to pay for Barry's ream, I mean dream.

Under Pelosi the country went 5.32 trillion deeper in debt, time to change the battle plan.

But his speech was aimed at those that still believe in unicorns, that Canadians are somehow qualified to discuss American politics and that putting 30 million people on entitlements for free healthcare will some how save money.

I do love that he AGAIN promised not to sign any bill with ear marks and he went on about American Exceptionalism when he bowed to how many country leaders in the last 2 years?

But hey the democrats and liberals are loving that his numbers are going up, forgetting that he's the leader by office, when the overall feeling of dread goes up for the government, Barry's numbers will go up, it's that they have a little more faith in the government, not Barry.
I like that he looks around and doesn't look at the camera like a brain dead drone... and I saw him look at the camera many times.

What does Pelosi have to do with any of this? And 5.32 trillion in debt, was not created by the Obama Administration - Obama's stimulus did not cost us very much, damn sure not 5.32 trillion.

The earmark subject is funny all around.. Left and Right - both sides scream against them, yet wont go for a bill if their earmarks aren't added in... Hello John MacCain - against in the public, yet for them in private! Earmarks aren't a bad thing fyi, it's just a buzz word.

How many other President / Leaders shook Obama's hand, when that isn't custom for them to do so? Oh, almost all of them? EXACTLY!

He has his own numbers, and congress has numbers, and nobody trusts the Gov - damn sure not because of a few Republicans making it in.

If Obama's numbers are going up, it's because he continues to deliver on what he promised. You may not like the truth, but the fact is Obama has broken very few promises - he has actually done much of what he said he would do or at least tried to do it.

You haven't had a president that you could predict his path in 40 years... he's damn near walked the exact line he said he would.
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Old 01-26-2011, 01:02 PM   #60
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Obama is good at one liner speeches, it's like a series of quote.
Actually, I'd say he's far more coherent than the previous guy that was in his shoes. That guy either had a stuttering problem, or was too stupid to string an idea into a coherent sentence.
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Old 01-26-2011, 01:16 PM   #61
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I like that he looks around and doesn't look at the camera like a brain dead drone... and I saw him look at the camera many times.
Yeah, when he took a breathe and looked away from his precious teleprompters
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What does Pelosi have to do with any of this? And 5.32 trillion in debt, was not created by the Obama Administration - Obama's stimulus did not cost us very much, damn sure not 5.32 trillion.
This has been going on for 4 years, the last two under Barry, and he wants more money
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The earmark subject is funny all around.. Left and Right - both sides scream against them, yet wont go for a bill if their earmarks aren't added in... Hello John MacCain - against in the public, yet for them in private! Earmarks aren't a bad thing fyi, it's just a buzz word.
I was making the comment on that because the House already promised he wouldn't get any bill with an earmark on it, so Barry takes advantage of that, which he promised 2 years ago and BROKE. So now we'll see if the GOP will honor their promise, unlike the president
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How many other President / Leaders shook Obama's hand, when that isn't custom for them to do so? Oh, almost all of them? EXACTLY!
LOL, so you're saying you can't shake the hands of the POTUS if you are against his politics?
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He has his own numbers, and congress has numbers, and nobody trusts the Gov - damn sure not because of a few Republicans making it in.

If Obama's numbers are going up, it's because he continues to deliver on what he promised. You may not like the truth, but the fact is Obama has broken very few promises - he has actually done much of what he said he would do or at least tried to do it.

You haven't had a president that you could predict his path in 40 years... he's damn near walked the exact line he said he would.
I guess you forgot the votes in November, what did he call it? a shellacking? Pretty much means people want a different path, but hey, I got something for you!



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Actually, I'd say he's far more coherent than the previous guy that was in his shoes. That guy either had a stuttering problem, or was too stupid to string an idea into a coherent sentence.
He's polished with his teleprompters, I'll give him that, but whats more important, a speech giver, or a leader? We haven't had a good leader in decades.
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Old 01-26-2011, 01:22 PM   #62
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He's polished with his teleprompters, I'll give him that, but whats more important, a speech giver, or a leader? We haven't had a good leader in decades.
Ohhh, you've had lots of excellent leaders over the past few decades. They just don't like common folk like you and me, and don't appear on the news shows. Read my post in the first page of this thread.
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Yeah, when he took a breathe and looked away from his precious teleprompters
You're giving him shit about him reading off a Teleprompter? Vs... memorizing it, you would rather he waste his time memorizing all these speeches vs. just reading them? Really....?


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This has been going on for 4 years, the last two under Barry, and he wants more money
you mean 6 years, when the Republicans signed the largest Medicare increase in history, largest spending increase ever? Hell if you're going to include those 4, you should back up 4 more years when everything was really sky rocketing.

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I was making the comment on that because the House already promised he wouldn't get any bill with an earmark on it, so Barry takes advantage of that, which he promised 2 years ago and BROKE. So now we'll see if the GOP will honor their promise, unlike the president
That's called getting screwed over.. The Rep's & Dem's wouldn't sign, agree, pass and would filibuster anything that didn't have the earmarks THEY forced in. YOUR people YOU voted in, FORCED IN!

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LOL, so you're saying you can't shake the hands of the POTUS if you are against his politics?
Not if you want to get anything done... maybe that's why he's done so much.


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I guess you forgot the votes in November, what did he call it? a shellacking? Pretty much means people want a different path, but hey, I got something for you!
You truly think that Nov means the Country is tired of Obama's Policies? Hahahahahaha. Come on, please tell me you're kidding.

This flip was normal, predicted and happens almost every single mid term in history.. EXACTLY like it did.


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He's polished with his teleprompters, I'll give him that, but whats more important, a speech giver, or a leader? We haven't had a good leader in decades.
A great speech giver is more important... they're all leaders, as good as you'll ever get...


Oh yeah, please tell me you don't think President Reagan was a "leader" over a good speech giver... he sucked as a President, but he could speak like no other President up to his time - and he 'helped' move walls with his words.... WORDS.

Don't discredit Obama because he speaks well - that goes a long ways in LEADING!
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