Crazy Idea I had last night. What do you think of this? - GoFuckYourself.com

Shap · 03-23-2011, 12:58 PM

I don't know about you guys but a lot of my success has come thanks to help and feedback I received from others. I remember when I started in this biz the leaders at the time were very helpful and instrumental in helping the new breed succeed. So I was thinking of an idea on how to help new or old people in the industry.

We create a site where once a week (or once a month) a site is chosen for the community to give feedback on. The site is listed and then the community provides feedback on it. We have thumbs up and thumbs down on comments so the site owner (and people reading it) can see what advice people agree with most and what advice they disagree with. That way bad feedback gets drowned out and good feedback rises to the top. So even if you don't have time to provide feedback you can contribute by voting on which feedback you agree with.

There could also be a separate section for developers, designers etc to offer their help. I know sometimes it's hard to know how to make the next steps to improve a site or who to go to to get help this could help.

I don't know what do you guys think? Good idea?

stever · 03-23-2011, 01:12 PM

cool idea bro

okok · 03-23-2011, 01:13 PM

You could deploy this as a Reddit community right NOW.

CYF · 03-23-2011, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by okok

You could deploy this as a Reddit community right NOW.

slashdot came to mind, with the moderation and meta-mod system. Plus the script is open sourced, not sure about reddit's script.

okok · 03-23-2011, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by CYF

slashdot came to mind, with the moderation and meta-mod system. Plus the script is open sourced, not sure about reddit's script.

Ah, I mean, just run it on reddit.com as an r/whatever community. That is a faster "now" than building something or installing code ;).

CashOnClick · 03-23-2011, 01:24 PM

Very similar in ways to the "buildathons" Rowdy used to do for years over at ANS before it shut down. And some weeks when the user participation was high there were some valuable lessons and advice to be had.... So yeah its a great idea... only potential problem is encouraging people to offer up good advice since the vast majority play there cards even closer to there chest these days...

blackmonsters · 03-23-2011, 01:27 PM

Good idea, but I think there would be a lot of trolling and hatorade and
confuse the site owner.

If you "hand picked" a site review panel then maybe that would work.

Wait:

Make a site where feedback can get a thumbs up or thumbs down count
from all webmasters/surfers and that will help point out the troll feedback and
highlight the best feedback.

will76 · 03-23-2011, 01:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shap

I don't know about you guys but a lot of my success has come thanks to help and feedback I received from others. I remember when I started in this biz the leaders at the time were very helpful and instrumental in helping the new breed succeed. So I was thinking of an idea on how to help new or old people in the industry.

We create a site where once a week (or once a month) a site is chosen for the community to give feedback on. The site is listed and then the community provides feedback on it. We have thumbs up and thumbs down on comments so the site owner (and people reading it) can see what advice people agree with most and what advice they disagree with. That way bad feedback gets drowned out and good feedback rises to the top. So even if you don't have time to provide feedback you can contribute by voting on which feedback you agree with.

There could also be a separate section for developers, designers etc to offer their help. I know sometimes it's hard to know how to make the next steps to improve a site or who to go to to get help this could help.

I don't know what do you guys think? Good idea?

When I first started posting on Ynot 8 years ago there was a lot of people who would post their site name and ask for feed back (site reviews). It seemed to go well in most cases and helped a lot of people out. However, occasionally you would get the person who really didn't want feedback, they just wanted praise and to be told it looked great.

"site reviews" were also a nice creative way to not spam the board but help get exposure and traffic to your new site.

I'd contribute with some feedback if anyone sets it up. No one helped me the first 4 years online, but I don't mind helping others who are receptive to it.

SGS · 03-23-2011, 01:58 PM

Sounds like an excellent idea and well worth running with.

troncarver · 03-23-2011, 02:07 PM

What you really need is a site where the b2c surfers rate the site,

not a bunch of broke b2b webmaster trolls who dont know what it takes to create a successful site anyway, and if they do they probably dont have a common yet elusive north american brown tailed surfers mindset

you need to provide the surfers with minimal direction and 1 to 2 tasks/end goals and give them a pop usability test at the end..

all for some incentive maybe throw some trialpay offers at them which they think they are receiving as part of the usability test and make them pay you to give you feedback

pornguy · 03-23-2011, 02:10 PM

I would think that it can also offer up a chance for someone to sabotage the competition.

Machete_ · 03-23-2011, 02:13 PM

Shit idea.

Far-L · 03-23-2011, 02:20 PM

Good idea but I do see a few hurdles...

1. Passwords to all the commentators/reviewers?

2. Intentionally misleading "sound" advice or criticism - might be overshadowed by the quality advice but who can judge that one way or another... especially in a case where what works for one site would fail another.

3. Seems like weeding out the spammy dime a dozen generic crap would be a major headache

4. I know it would be an altruistic enterprise... but where is the money in that?

Goodwill? In this business? I think we are all conditioned to be too paranoid...

ottopottomouse · 03-23-2011, 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by will76

However, occasionally you would get the person who really didn't want feedback, they just wanted praise and to be told it looked great.

I seem to encounter that sort of person more often than occasionally and it's only after they blow their top at any critiscism (even if it's mixed in with some praise) that you realise you've completely wasted your time

DWB · 03-23-2011, 03:00 PM

Great idea Shap, but I'd make sure those who are allowed to comment are actually IN the business. Otherwise you're going to have a bunch of haters and trolls in there doing what they do best.

alias · 03-23-2011, 03:11 PM

Too many haters dude.

Phoenix · 03-23-2011, 03:14 PM

could be good..worth it if you got your sites critiqued by peers.

id love to see the same type of site setup...for ubuntu support

say 200 techs to help with support who can be listed and contacted for consulting work.
for that they have to help people with their support issues relating to using ubuntu and non MS products on their pc's

totally free

JFK · 03-23-2011, 03:40 PM

it wont work, sorry .................

egonspengler3 · 03-23-2011, 03:44 PM

I'm down. I want feedback. Heck, that could easily just be another forum here... allow me to coin it's name... "Site Feeback". Am I good or what?

egon

Agent 488 · 03-23-2011, 03:46 PM

you should only be allowed to contribute if you've been to a show or have a big sig.

georgeyw · 03-23-2011, 04:06 PM

I have a site i'd love to do this with, however I think it would only lead to a whole gob of negativity.

It would be nice to be able to submit sites privately and have 'industry leaders' review it. Then at the same time what is to stop them from 'borrowing' the idea?

SZNY · 03-23-2011, 04:49 PM

I was trying to set something up but the reviewing and discussing was not yet implemented.

http://www.cashyourtraffic.com/billing/
http://www.cashyourtraffic.com/software/

Btw its a great idea especially to assist and help the newbies.

greg80 · 03-23-2011, 05:05 PM

Should be more dynamic, like a site every day, people need fresh content or they forget about the site

SZNY · 03-23-2011, 05:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by greg80

Should be more dynamic, like a site every day, people need fresh content or they forget about the site

Yeah I know, 1st intention was to create some directory index, FAQ and tips. Also have some other ideas but at this moment no time to finish it

pristine · 03-23-2011, 05:49 PM

william shapner

NaughtyRob · 03-23-2011, 05:50 PM

Very true.

Quote:

Originally Posted by greg80

Should be more dynamic, like a site every day, people need fresh content or they forget about the site

cherrylula · 03-23-2011, 06:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JFK

it wont work, sorry .................

yeah I was thinking this too. That's like free consulting. A positive idea, but that info is soooo valuable, no way I'd be rating other people with free help. Sorry but being honest.

maybe I'm wrong though and just not as helpful as Shap. lol

D Ghost · 03-23-2011, 06:47 PM

Interesting idea

will76 · 03-23-2011, 07:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cherrylula

yeah I was thinking this too. That's like free consulting. A positive idea, but that info is soooo valuable, no way I'd be rating other people with free help. Sorry but being honest.

maybe I'm wrong though and just not as helpful as Shap. lol

You are wrong. It was very common on Ynot, Cozy and a few other boards 5-8 years ago. It seemed like at least once every couple days someone was asking for a site review for a new site and lots of people would give valuable feed back. You don't see that happen much on GFY because there is a high troll to real people ratio here and a lot of people are probably too scared to post something new in fear of being made fun of.

vicki · 03-23-2011, 09:08 PM

Actually there was a very small board that ran very much like that ... It was run by Tom and called Tom's newbie boosters. Although it was a fairly small community of people, everyone posted for advice and got real, solid feedback from fellow webmasters.

The board is still active but has truly changed and now most of us old timers have wandered away to new ventures since Tom left.
Ironic as the 'true' originators/founders of the Phoenix Forum (and great friends of mine) were regulars there for many, many moons

OnanistsCash · 03-23-2011, 09:21 PM

Hey Shap! Nice to meet you, i'm about to launch my own program after a lot of work on the underground for a couple of years ... ( Yeap, years .... You know how this is ... ) so hopefully we can have some chat sometime ... Just let me tell you that i'm not sure what others actually say about you, lots of people saying lots of stupid things here so i only read seriously those i consider stand up guys ...

What i do can tell you is that you are one of the few posters i regularily pay attention when they post something and indeed some of your posts are really helpful for starters or many times let me thinking on new things about where the market is going, etc

It was not long time ago when i read on a discussion about tube sites where you talked about how the online porn industry also growth like any other market and became a game of big companies and not any more of young boys on a garage doing 100/200k a year like a did from my garage a couple of years ago :P

Anyway, just wanted to express my respects as i consider you among that small list of posters that really are here willing to help others and not just fucking around or trying to make people mad. I insist, many times, many of your threads were very inspirational for me

Anyway, back to thread and stopping my -in love mode- i like the idea very much and i will be very happy of putting my entire program ( Paysite Tours and Affiliate Tools ) to get rated/hated/etc after official program launch ( which will be in two weeks more or less, will start recluting beta testers these days ;P )

Keep them coming bro! Honestly! Hope someday i could have people on this board talking about me how i'm talking about you LOL

Pd: I indeed have a, lets say, related idea for a mainstream site which is something no one still done, hopefully i will be able to launch/develop it after program launch ;P Nothing fancy, very stupid to develop, but i think its something everybody somehow talks about it all the time and still no one tried to make a site about it LOL

signupdamnit · 03-23-2011, 09:36 PM

It's not a bad idea. The key will likely be in getting people to participate on both ends. Hopefully people would truly try to help as opposed to merely plugging their own ventures. Whether it works out or not it is good to see someone focused on helping others within the industry.

03-23-2011, 12:58 PM	#1
Shap Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 8,313	Crazy Idea I had last night. What do you think of this? I don't know about you guys but a lot of my success has come thanks to help and feedback I received from others. I remember when I started in this biz the leaders at the time were very helpful and instrumental in helping the new breed succeed. So I was thinking of an idea on how to help new or old people in the industry. We create a site where once a week (or once a month) a site is chosen for the community to give feedback on. The site is listed and then the community provides feedback on it. We have thumbs up and thumbs down on comments so the site owner (and people reading it) can see what advice people agree with most and what advice they disagree with. That way bad feedback gets drowned out and good feedback rises to the top. So even if you don't have time to provide feedback you can contribute by voting on which feedback you agree with. There could also be a separate section for developers, designers etc to offer their help. I know sometimes it's hard to know how to make the next steps to improve a site or who to go to to get help this could help. I don't know what do you guys think? Good idea?

03-23-2011, 01:12 PM	#2
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03-23-2011, 01:24 PM	#6
CashOnClick Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 122	Very similar in ways to the "buildathons" Rowdy used to do for years over at ANS before it shut down. And some weeks when the user participation was high there were some valuable lessons and advice to be had.... So yeah its a great idea... only potential problem is encouraging people to offer up good advice since the vast majority play there cards even closer to there chest these days... __________________ Cash On Click \| Pornstar Mega Sites \| $25 PPS \| 60% / 60% REVS

03-23-2011, 01:27 PM	#7
blackmonsters Making PHP work Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: 🌎🌅🌈🌇 Posts: 20,294	Good idea, but I think there would be a lot of trolling and hatorade and confuse the site owner. If you "hand picked" a site review panel then maybe that would work. Wait: Make a site where feedback can get a thumbs up or thumbs down count from all webmasters/surfers and that will help point out the troll feedback and highlight the best feedback. __________________ Make Money with Porn

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SGS Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Mallorca - Nottingham Posts: 5,176	Sounds like an excellent idea and well worth running with. __________________ See sig...

03-23-2011, 01:13 PM	#3
okok Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: LA Posts: 502	You could deploy this as a Reddit community right NOW.

03-23-2011, 02:07 PM	#10
troncarver Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 1,584	What you really need is a site where the b2c surfers rate the site, not a bunch of broke b2b webmaster trolls who dont know what it takes to create a successful site anyway, and if they do they probably dont have a common yet elusive north american brown tailed surfers mindset you need to provide the surfers with minimal direction and 1 to 2 tasks/end goals and give them a pop usability test at the end.. all for some incentive maybe throw some trialpay offers at them which they think they are receiving as part of the usability test and make them pay you to give you feedback __________________ BADOINK.COM skype: troncarver

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03-23-2011, 02:13 PM	#12
Machete_ WINNING! Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 14,579	Shit idea.

03-23-2011, 02:20 PM	#13
Far-L Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Seattle Posts: 6,065	Good idea but I do see a few hurdles... 1. Passwords to all the commentators/reviewers? 2. Intentionally misleading "sound" advice or criticism - might be overshadowed by the quality advice but who can judge that one way or another... especially in a case where what works for one site would fail another. 3. Seems like weeding out the spammy dime a dozen generic crap would be a major headache 4. I know it would be an altruistic enterprise... but where is the money in that? Goodwill? In this business? I think we are all conditioned to be too paranoid... __________________ HomegrownCash.com, the affiliate program of Homegrown Video - The Largest Collection of Amateur XXX - Est. 1982. Contact - Email: farrell AT homegrownvideo D com Skype: hgfarl Newsweek Magazine - "Homegrown Video, the longest running series in the history of porn."

03-23-2011, 03:00 PM	#15
DWB Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Encrypted. Access denied. Posts: 31,779	Great idea Shap, but I'd make sure those who are allowed to comment are actually IN the business. Otherwise you're going to have a bunch of haters and trolls in there doing what they do best.

03-23-2011, 03:11 PM	#16
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03-23-2011, 03:14 PM	#17
Phoenix BACON BACON BACON Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Poems everybody, the laddie fancies himself a poet Posts: 35,457	could be good..worth it if you got your sites critiqued by peers. id love to see the same type of site setup...for ubuntu support say 200 techs to help with support who can be listed and contacted for consulting work. for that they have to help people with their support issues relating to using ubuntu and non MS products on their pc's totally free __________________ Skype Phoenixskype1 Telegram PhoenixBrad https://quantads.io

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03-23-2011, 03:44 PM	#19
egonspengler3 Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 77	I'm down. I want feedback. Heck, that could easily just be another forum here... allow me to coin it's name... "Site Feeback". Am I good or what? egon __________________ email/icq: ...@... http://www.prettybabetube.com

03-23-2011, 03:46 PM	#20
Agent 488 Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 22,511	you should only be allowed to contribute if you've been to a show or have a big sig.

03-23-2011, 04:06 PM	#21
georgeyw 58008 53773 Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Australia Posts: 9,864	I have a site i'd love to do this with, however I think it would only lead to a whole gob of negativity. It would be nice to be able to submit sites privately and have 'industry leaders' review it. Then at the same time what is to stop them from 'borrowing' the idea?

03-23-2011, 04:49 PM	#22
SZNY SZNY Industry Role: Join Date: May 2004 Location: Sexy Republic Posts: 2,800	I was trying to set something up but the reviewing and discussing was not yet implemented. http://www.cashyourtraffic.com/billing/ http://www.cashyourtraffic.com/software/ Btw its a great idea especially to assist and help the newbies. __________________ Telegram: sandroanthonio Last edited by SZNY; 03-23-2011 at 04:52 PM..

03-23-2011, 05:05 PM	#23
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03-23-2011, 05:49 PM	#25
pristine So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 1,176	william shapner

03-23-2011, 06:47 PM	#28
D Ghost null Industry Role: Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 9,820	Interesting idea

03-23-2011, 09:08 PM	#30
vicki Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Deep in the heart o' Texas Posts: 1,478	Actually there was a very small board that ran very much like that ... It was run by Tom and called Tom's newbie boosters. Although it was a fairly small community of people, everyone posted for advice and got real, solid feedback from fellow webmasters. The board is still active but has truly changed and now most of us old timers have wandered away to new ventures since Tom left. Ironic as the 'true' originators/founders of the Phoenix Forum (and great friends of mine) were regulars there for many, many moons __________________ If at first you do succeed - try to hide your astonishment. HR merchant accounts from 3.45% solid biz since 98 victoriakozub AT gmail.com skype: victoria.kozub \| ICQ: 74296746

03-23-2011, 09:21 PM	#31
OnanistsCash Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 183	Hey Shap! Nice to meet you, i'm about to launch my own program after a lot of work on the underground for a couple of years ... ( Yeap, years .... You know how this is ... ) so hopefully we can have some chat sometime ... Just let me tell you that i'm not sure what others actually say about you, lots of people saying lots of stupid things here so i only read seriously those i consider stand up guys ... What i do can tell you is that you are one of the few posters i regularily pay attention when they post something and indeed some of your posts are really helpful for starters or many times let me thinking on new things about where the market is going, etc It was not long time ago when i read on a discussion about tube sites where you talked about how the online porn industry also growth like any other market and became a game of big companies and not any more of young boys on a garage doing 100/200k a year like a did from my garage a couple of years ago :P Anyway, just wanted to express my respects as i consider you among that small list of posters that really are here willing to help others and not just fucking around or trying to make people mad. I insist, many times, many of your threads were very inspirational for me Anyway, back to thread and stopping my -in love mode- i like the idea very much and i will be very happy of putting my entire program ( Paysite Tours and Affiliate Tools ) to get rated/hated/etc after official program launch ( which will be in two weeks more or less, will start recluting beta testers these days ;P ) Keep them coming bro! Honestly! Hope someday i could have people on this board talking about me how i'm talking about you LOL Pd: I indeed have a, lets say, related idea for a mainstream site which is something no one still done, hopefully i will be able to launch/develop it after program launch ;P Nothing fancy, very stupid to develop, but i think its something everybody somehow talks about it all the time and still no one tried to make a site about it LOL Last edited by OnanistsCash; 03-23-2011 at 09:26 PM..

03-23-2011, 09:36 PM	#32
signupdamnit Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 6,697	It's not a bad idea. The key will likely be in getting people to participate on both ends. Hopefully people would truly try to help as opposed to merely plugging their own ventures. Whether it works out or not it is good to see someone focused on helping others within the industry.