RuthB

I love stories like this.

http://www.blackfive.net/main/2011/0...ated.html#more

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brassmonkey

there are no winners in war or religion. someone always ends up hurt.

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RuthB

True enough.

Personally I think it's nice to see that the people who have caused so much upset during the funerals of fallen soldiers were prevented from doing so this time.

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_Richard_

did the townsfolk burn bibles and effigies too?

Vendzilla

Well played!

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brassmonkey

people are into all kinds of crazy things.

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TripleXPrint

Awesome!

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18teens

I'm glad they stopped those idiotic fucks.

LeRoy

This industry needs "Good ole boys"

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marketsmart

you're a canadian, so you wouldnt understand things like honoring the brave fighting men of your country..

i pretty hard for a canadian to get killed in battle when all your troops do is wash the underwear and fetch drinks for the real soldiers (americans)...







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TripleXPrint

Hey, to be fair, the Canadian Army helped take Juno Beach during Operation Overlord in Normandy.

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RuthB

oh come on now marketsmart.. we Canadians have lost some of our soldiers in Afghanistan too.

We honour our heroes.

We're lucky that we don't have to be subjected to the same kind of disrespectful bullshit that the Westboro Baptists put American soldiers and their families through.

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spazlabz

Westboro Baptist Church has got to be the most entertaining group of folks I have ever seen, Their view of Christianity is so screwed it is laughable

however, the protests they hold at funerals is not funny at all and in spite of myself I admit I did a little fist pump when I read the line about one of them getting their ass waxed. Good find Ruth and thanks for sharing

Black All Through

I'm surprised that after all this time no one has actually shot these animals at a protest rally.
These are people that if wasted, you've seriously helped society.

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marketsmart

my comment was directed at richard in response to his comment...

canada always sends troops to fight with the US and even though most are drunk and illiterate, they still do the best they can... and the US appreciates the effort..




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GregE

Wrong state.

Besides, small town thinking isn't always small.

At least not on this side of the border anyway.

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_Richard_

i don't really care what your ignorance has to say about our armed forces

the point i was making was the population was trying to honour a fallen soldier who died protecting peoples freedom, and in extension, freedom of speech and the right to protest

as fucked up as it sounds, the very fact those people are allowed to protest in their retardly despicable way is, to me, the greatest honour of all

moeloubani

Canadian troops >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> American troops

Don't kid yourselves. Canadians are fighters, Americans soldiers are pussies in comparison.

Edit: Title should be 'Free speech crushed, legally'

Now they should do this to anyone protesting against the government or anything, just bring them into questioning and you'll never have a problem. You guys will cheer for that too, right?

How disgusting that a soldier goes to fight for freedom, and at his funeral the ultimate act of disrespect is carried out in the form of disallowing free speech there.

Barry-xlovecam

Bottom line, funerals should not be protest sites. Show a little empathy for the dead and their survivors.

_Richard_

i agree with you on a level of respect for the dead, but while we're on the subject of respect for the dead, without this protestor getting beaten senseless, would you know the name 'USMC Staff Sgt. Jason Rogers, 28'?

i personally wouldn't.

IllTestYourGirls

While I would love to watch these ass holes get beat, this story is nothing to cheer about. I know a few towns that would love to see porn producers get their asses kicked and detained by the police for fun.

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RuthB

I guess it's one of those double-edged swords

I come from a military family, so I hate hearing the crap these guys pull at military funerals. I believe it is wholly inappropriate to disturb anyone in their time of grief.

Freedom of speech is of course a good thing, but that doesn't mean people should be allowed to be abusive to others in order to express those opinions. Surely that encroaches on the freedom of those grieving, doesn't it?

What's wrong with a little responsibility when flexing those freedom of speech muscles?

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Vendzilla

I googled "canadian navy" on images and this was the first image

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think about that

Quentin

That's the purpose of "time, place and manner restrictions," which are, in fact, permitted under the Supreme Court's interpretation of the First Amendment.

By now, given how much publicity the Westboro Baptist brain trust has garnered for itself, all 50 states should have statutes on the books making it explicitly illegal to conduct their protests at the site of a funeral, and during the hours of the funeral. The Supreme Court has ruled such restrictions constitutional, and having them on the books affords law enforcement the chance to keep these schmucks in line in a way that doesn't result in criminal or civil liability for anyone who might be inclined to beat in a Westboro skull or two.

It so happens that Mississippi has precisely such a law in place already, at §97-35-18 of its state code. In fact, given when this statute was passed (2007) my strong hunch is that it was written in direct response to previous demonstrations by the Westboro group. At any rate, under that law, the Westboro assholes would not have been permitted closer than 1000 away from the funeral, and would not have been permitted to demonstrate within an hour of the start or end of the services.

In other words, because the Westboro cretins generally follow such laws during their 'protests' (as they did in the demonstration that gave rise to Snyder v. Phelps) their asinine little rally would have taken place a little over a football field's length away from the cemetery, and more than an hour before/after the funeral was conducted. I'm sure it would still be very upsetting for a lot of people who witnessed it, but it would have been reasonably possible for family members and friends of the deceased to avoid exposure to the rally.

Don't get me wrong; I am as repulsed by these insane pricks as much as the next guy, and I probably wouldn't have been so philosophical about it if they had shown their despicable faces at my brother's funeral.... but intimidating or harassing them into silence is not the answer. It's not that I'm not going to lose any sleep over a Westboro Baptist taking a well-deserved beating, but as a matter of public policy, it's not something I want to see encouraged or celebrated, either.

Ultimately, this sort of thing is only going to result in the Westboro jackasses being rewarded, really; rewarded with more attention, more basis for painting themselves as the aggrieved party in a potential harassment lawsuit, and more sense of importance than they should ever feel.

So yes, fuck them and the imbecilic horse they rode in on.... but let's not risk martyring their stupid asses in the process.

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moeloubani

So when people disagree with someone expressing freedom of speech violence is a good way to solve the problem? I can't believe people are okay with that.

The person who beat the Westboro person should have been charged to the full extent of the law. The fact that they didn't and that the police seem to be complicit in denying constitutional freedoms is concerning at best and a criminal matter for the FBI at worst.

You should be more concerned that people who are angry that you are producing porn will decide to take the same route and choose physical violence as a way to stop you. You are promoting that type of behavior after all.

CYF

Here's his funeral procession as viewed from the cop car dash cam. People lined up for miles

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marketsmart

let me know how you feel when its your family member being honored...


there are exceptions to every rule and as much as i believe in freedom of speech, this is one of those cases that i think the constitution should be rewritten to bannish such behavior..

and using pornography as a scapegoat to justify freedom of speech is a weak comparison..

if polled, i think you would find that the general populous has no problem with porn..

likewise, the majority of americans do have an issue with what the wesboro church is doing..

case and thread now closed...

winning, duh....






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Vendzilla

Abraham Lincoln once said, "Any nation that does not honor its heroes will not long endure."

Westboro church should be used for target practice, at least with paintball guns loaded with frozen paintballs

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moeloubani

lol

If you think the constitution should be rewritten then you and your fellow Americans who are so against what these guys are doing should get together and make an amendment to it. Ask your congressmen to enact laws so that they can't do it.

But saying that you are for random people just taking the law into their own hands and brutally beating someone for exercising their rights as an American is stupid. Who decides who is allowed to go out and beat someone up because they don't like what they say? You've already made it clear that you don't believe the law should be the deciding factor, so what should it be? The community majority? So in a community where people hate porn you are all for the people ganging up and beating the shit out of any porn producer there even if it's against the law?

People like you is the reason there is law. Unfortunately those same people (ie: you) don't seem to be able to grasp the concept of society and the way it works.

If you knew ANYTHING about what free speech really is then you wouldn't have made such a misinformed post. Freedom of speech isn't there to protect the popular - it's there to protect the unpopular. Go back and do some learning about what you think you 'know' and then come back and try to argue against me. Otherwise stick to things you know and do yourself a huge favor and bite your tongue/finger when you see me post lest I embarrass you again like this.

wdsguy

Can't trust law enforcement in the south. Nothing to be proud of. This is why I avoid small towns in the US when traveling as you never know what will happen to ya.

marketsmart

i dont agree with the beating, but i do agree with the other tactics used...

and if YOU knew anything about the history of the westboro church then you would know that the leader is nothing but a media attention whore..

and yes, i do think the people should push their congress people to ratify the constitution to make it against the law to protest at funerals..

if these people want to hold a protest in the same town as the funeral then i have no problem with that, but they should not be allowed to invade the funeral of a fallen soldier just to garner some media attention..

again, if you had a relative that lost his life in battle, you would feel differently, but it's apparent that you come from a long ling of pussies or draft dodgers...








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TripleXPrint

For those crying about the Freedom of Speech, blah blah blah. There's these things I like to call common sense and common decency. You have the right to free speech, but when you abuse that right to spread hate, then you ain't showing much of either. How does protesting a dead soldier's funeral prove anything other than a way to get attention. Stand behind the free speech shield all you want...that's just fucked up. What would people say if the KKK protested at a young black man's funeral? Holding signs saying, "God hates hahahahahahas" and "Your boy is burning in hell!".

It's just plain tasteless and lacking of common sense and common decency. The WBC is nothing more than a couple of cultist attention whores.

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SallyRand

I think you mean "AMEND", not "ratify" the Constitution.

The Constitution was RATIFIED a couple of hundred years ago.

It has been AMENDED a number of times since then.

You suggest that the FIRST AMENDMENT be essentially eliminated because of a few assholes.

Not good.

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SmokeyTheBear

watch your tongue son..

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moeloubani

Yes, free speech DOES give them the right to do what they like. If what they are doing is illegal it's another story but you seem to understand free speech as a thing to give to people that we like but take away from people that we hate. It doesn't work that way.

Who else do you think we should charge with treason? Anyone who is against the war? Anyone who criticizes the government? Anyone who speaks out against any law or policy? Don't be so naive as to fall into the trap of a police state all to shut some people up that you could just ignore anyways.

Luckily there IS free speech and it DOES give them the right to say those things. What people DON'T have the right to do is to go up and physically injure these people. What people DON'T have the right to do is to go out of their way to intentionally allow crimes to happen against them and look the other way. That's ILLEGAL and what they are doing is LEGAL. You DO have the right to go out in public and do whatever you want as long as it is legal. If that action makes someone upset it DOESN'T matter. Making someone upset isn't ILLEGAL it is LEGAL and therefore is allowed. You don't want to be upset? Look away. But as long as what they are doing is legal then it makes no difference who they upset, they should be protected by the law and they should be allowed to do what they do in peace.

@marketsmart

Funny how you say you are against these people insulting dead soldiers and then you go ahead and insult Canadian soldiers as if they haven't died so you guys could sit back 100s of miles away filming Britney Spears videos. Real classy, loser.

LiveDose

I'm surprised none of those 'church' members has taken a bullet yet.

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Rangermoore

As a person who has fought for this country and seen many young men killed, I feel that free speech allows westboro baptist church to say and protest anywhere they feel they need to. I DO NOT agree with their message but it MUST be protected. If we start inhibiting those that we disagree with then we are no better than those that choose to make hurtful speeches and protests. As Larry Flint said " Freedom of speech is for the people that you hate not for the ones you like"

I know there are many that disagree with my position on this. To those folks I say " It is YOUR RIGHT to disagree, I and many other brave men & women gave that right to you. Freedom of speech & expression are free because of it.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=hT5ZsK9_5yY

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As long as it is those FUCKING CUNTS at westboro, I'm good with that.

JFK

Well said

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marlboroack

Hmm, that isn't very nice.

MrMaxwell

You don't read too well.

Try again;

" As far as free speech goes.. anyone has it, no matter how much I or anyone doesn't like their message. But that doesn't give them the right to harass a private party at such a tragic time. "

PR_Glen

you're right, they should have been there to yell chants of baby killer and war monger and whatever the hell else they can call him.. hey maybe they can call his mother a fat ass and his uncle a moron during the funeral services as well. That will help 'celebrate' the dead...

mocking the dead during a service should be an arrestable offense period, has nothing to do with freedom of speech. Especially when it doesn't exist in the purist form by any means anyway.

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_Richard_

sigh.....

_Richard_

so out of curiosity, you think that beating those church goers up was a good idea?