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Choker · 05-09-2011, 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Jack Sparrow

Here we go again.

Choker backing out, lame excuses about silly rules, twisting and dancing.

I think agent 488 is talking about 2 x 10k bets you lost and then went for the same twist and dance to get out of the bet.

I dont care to be honest.

I will take you premium traffic and send it to a FULL whitelabel, not just a domain/url redirect thingie. Surfers signup ON the site, and comeback TO that site if they want to login etc. So you can stick you whitelabel bullshit where the sun dont shine because it is just that: Another lame excuse!

The conditions where very clear, i dont mind how much you try to backpeddle out of it.

Stats will be posted. Fair enough for all to see.

Yeah the conditions were very clear, no whitelabels, send to 5 brokers at the same time to the same site.

ThatOtherGuy - BANNED FOR LIFE · 05-09-2011, 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by lazycash

No alienq, he means Mr. Frisky aka Jack Sparrow.

Cool thanks!

ErectMedia · 05-09-2011, 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by BCyber

Does streamate have to manually set you up a whitelabel? I didn't see anything about it in the affiliate program.

yep, mine does decent

Choker · 05-09-2011, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Dedi

Just a suggestion, but why don't both of yall just cut the public cat fight out and get back to work? Frisk, do what you tryin' to do to feel a lil important already and post the results (with proof) when you done so we can all flame you on why you fucked up by sending the wrong kind of traffic to the wrong pages and shit. Choke, save the excuses for later and just let the muh fucka buy your traffic and keep it movin' 'till he posts the results... then you can use your damn excuses.

My excuses? Lol

1. He agreed to buy from 5 different brokers at the same time, He's not.
2. He agreed to no whitelabels. He's sending to his own whitelabel site.

I agreed to a fair comparison test with me and 4 other brokers. This is not what he's doing , now is it? No skin off me teeth. He's buying $400 of traffic from me, his whitelabel looks like shit but hey I don't care, he's not even sending to a good page. He's actually sending to the worst page possible. He is purposly trying to NOT get signups so he can say look how shitty Chokers traffic is. Anyone who does not see this is blind.

barcodes · 05-09-2011, 05:02 PM

Here was the initial post made by choker.

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Originally Posted by Choker

I'm in a shit stirring mood so here goes.

I challenge all cam sites, especially the ones that always post here how great thier site converts. Here's the deal:

I will send 100k US,UK,CA,AU traffic to your site as a affiliate. There's no cost to you so the only excuse for not participating in this is that your site converts for shit.

To keep this fair and unbiased, someone else will signup for your program, so you won't know its me. This will be a new account.

When I get 5 cam sites onboard the traffic will start, all 5 sites will get the exact same traffic at the exact same time, so no excuses about day or time of day. In fact if I send a surfer to the first cam site today, he will not be sent to another cam for another 30 days. So your not gonna get the same recycled surfers.

I will post results in this thread. I ask that the cam sites that have the balls post here in this thread, as soon as 5 come forward I will begin the test. I also ask that you post here your best converting landing page, as once the test begins I will not change the landing page for any reason whatsoever. I'm going out on a limb here and putting my own money out there. So again, THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO EXCUSE FOR NOT PARTICIPATING IN THIS TEST.

And here is the original post, for those who missed it.
https://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=1019143

barcodes · 05-09-2011, 05:03 PM

Oh and this:

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Originally Posted by Choker

Well let me make a new rule right now, no white,black,orange,or purple labels lol, Seriously though no need for whitelabel sites for this.

After a while people started messing with him, challenging him etc. he initial post was for 4 or 5 companies.

Sorry to chime in and what not but I was eagerly awaiting the results for the initial contest for this reason.

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Originally Posted by Choker

The 5 biggest already buy from me and have no need to participate in this. This is aimed more at the cam sites that convert great but few people know of them.

helterskelter808 · 05-09-2011, 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Dedi

I'm pretty sure nobody here thinks they're going to get rich quick by sending brokered traffic to a white lable cam site.

Which makes this exercise all the more pointless.

Just Alex · 05-09-2011, 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Choker

My excuses? Lol

1. He agreed to buy from 5 different brokers at the same time, He's not.
2. He agreed to no whitelabels. He's sending to his own whitelabel site.

I agreed to a fair comparison test with me and 4 other brokers. This is not what he's doing , now is it? No skin off me teeth. He's buying $400 of traffic from me, his whitelabel looks like shit but hey I don't care, he's not even sending to a good page. He's actually sending to the worst page possible. He is purposly trying to NOT get signups so he can say look how shitty Chokers traffic is. Anyone who does not see this is blind.

Is he sending it to BBW models link? What site is he sending it to? Can we take a look?

Jakez · 05-09-2011, 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by theking

He clearly stated no whitelabel...and 5 brokers (including him) to been sent at the same time...end of story.

You need to send the traffic from all brokers at once, for example end of April conversions are amazing compared to May. So it is not a fair comparison if you send them one after the other.

Basically just spending $400 to have the right to say his traffic doesn't convert? lol

Hopefully Choker is still going through with his own test he initially started.

Choker · 05-09-2011, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Just Alex

Is he sending it to BBW models link? What site is he sending it to? Can we take a look?

http://www.myfreeporncams.com/

Choker · 05-09-2011, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Jakez

You need to send the traffic from all brokers at once, for example end of April conversions are amazing compared to May. So it is not a fair comparison if you send them one after the other.

Basically just spending $400 to have the right to say his traffic doesn't convert? lol

Hopefully Choker is still going through with his own test he initially started.

Exactly, not to mention he's not sending to the sort of page i recomended, on his teaser chat you can't chat with models unless you make a account. (yeah I know many cam site owners will defend this, but with bought traffic this converts for shit) Myfreecams sites is what converts good with this traffic. Not to mention the domain name is myfreeporncams.com so surfers are expecting a myfreecams sorta site, but they get a pay whitelabel isntead. Shows and proves how Frisky doesn't know his ass from a hole in the ground. And he's buying a niche that is not gonna work. It's his $400 he's spending.

B.Barnato · 05-09-2011, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Choker

Exactly, not to mention he's not sending to the sort of page i recomended, on his teaser chat you can't chat with models unless you make a account. (yeah I know many cam site owners will defend this, but with bought traffic this converts for shit) Myfreecams sites is what converts good with this traffic. Not to mention the domain name is myfreeporncams.com so surfers are expecting a myfreecams sorta site, but they get a pay whitelabel isntead. Shows and proves how Frisky doesn't know his ass from a hole in the ground. And he's buying a niche that is not gonna work. It's his $400 he's spending.

I think Frisky is truly clueless, I doubt he can afford to blow $400 just to make a point.

Considering that he claims to be a successful it took an extraordinary long time to scrape that money together...

Choker · 05-09-2011, 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by B.Barnato

I think Frisky is truly clueless, I doubt he can afford to blow $400 just to make a point.

Considering that he claims to be a successful it took an extraordinary long time to scrape that money together...

He would pawn whatever he has in his 1 bedroom studio in order to make a attempt to hurt my business. His hatred of me is that strong, I'm not joking here. He blames me for losing his page 1 spots on google which prolly cost him 6 figures in income. Now that I think about it, I can't really blame him for hating me that much.

carzygirls · 05-09-2011, 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Choker

He would pawn whatever he has in his 1 bedroom studio in order to make a attempt to hurt my business. His hatred of me is that strong, I'm not joking here. He blames me for losing his page 1 spots on google which prolly cost him 6 figures in income. Now that I think about it, I can't really blame him for hating me that much.

what did you do again to cost him those spots?

HardlinkSells · 05-09-2011, 06:46 PM

Did I win that 100 dollar contest?

HardlinkSells · 05-09-2011, 06:47 PM

I have to pay for a hooker and I really need the money.

lagcam · 05-09-2011, 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Choker

Exactly, not to mention he's not sending to the sort of page i recomended, on his teaser chat you can't chat with models unless you make a account. (yeah I know many cam site owners will defend this, but with bought traffic this converts for shit)......

I won't defend that, I actually agree with it.

Sign up before chat greatly reduces your chances of interesting somebody.

Supz · 05-09-2011, 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by ThatOtherGuy

Frisky? as in the late Fris?

That explain's everything.

Your april join date is obvious in this post. Unless you are just trolling.

Jack Sparrow = Frisky, (look at his sig)

Fris = Fris

Choker · 05-09-2011, 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by carzygirls

what did you do again to cost him those spots?

I made a death pool post on gfy predicting when his sites would get google bitchslapped. Some guys posted links to report him to google in that thread, my intention was not for anyone to report him to google. Eric closed the thread but not before warning me that I was breaking the rules, I guess Eric considered that thread me breaking the "inciting others to attack someone" rule. Thing is google had already started slapping his sites days before I made that post. Many said he was using xrumor. His excuse was that someone else used xrumer in order to get his sites google banned. LOL.

lazycash · 05-09-2011, 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Choker

Exactly, not to mention he's not sending to the sort of page i recomended, on his teaser chat you can't chat with models unless you make a account. (yeah I know many cam site owners will defend this, but with bought traffic this converts for shit) Myfreecams sites is what converts good with this traffic. Not to mention the domain name is myfreeporncams.com so surfers are expecting a myfreecams sorta site, but they get a pay whitelabel isntead. Shows and proves how Frisky doesn't know his ass from a hole in the ground. And he's buying a niche that is not gonna work. It's his $400 he's spending.

He probably won't have that domain too long, Leo of MFC protects his trademark as vigorously as anyone in the biz.

plsureking · 05-09-2011, 08:10 PM

i've tried all of the traffic vendors and choker converts the best.

in my experiments anyway..
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HardlinkSells · 05-09-2011, 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Choker

I made a death pool post on gfy predicting when his sites would get google bitchslapped. Some guys posted links to report him to google in that thread, my intention was not for anyone to report him to google. Eric closed the thread but not before warning me that I was breaking the rules, I guess Eric considered that thread me breaking the "inciting others to attack someone" rule. Thing is google had already started slapping his sites days before I made that post. Many said he was using xrumor. His excuse was that someone else used xrumer in order to get his sites google banned. LOL.

Did I win the 100 dollars? I need the money for a hooker.

Jakez · 05-09-2011, 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by lazycash

He probably won't have that domain too long, Leo of MFC protects his trademark as vigorously as anyone in the biz.

Looks like Choker has fucked him again.

carzygirls · 05-09-2011, 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Jakez

Looks like Choker has fucked him again.

lol... so funny if it happens

ThatOtherGuy - BANNED FOR LIFE · 05-09-2011, 08:20 PM

About sums this up.

CyberHustler · 05-09-2011, 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Choker

he's not even sending to a good page. He's actually sending to the worst page possible. He is purposly trying to NOT get signups so he can say look how shitty Chokers traffic is.

Of course that's what he's doing... that's what I said. My point is at least you're getting paid for this, so theres no reason in pointing out what he's doing yet till the money is officially spent and gone.

HardlinkSells · 05-09-2011, 08:58 PM

Hey I was curious if I won that 100 bucks, get back to me please

Choker · 05-09-2011, 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by HardlinkSells

Hey I was curious if I won that 100 bucks, get back to me please

You are refering to the deathpool thread?

HardlinkSells · 05-09-2011, 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Choker

You are refering to the deathpool thread?

Na, the more recent one. I think my reasoning was pretty good. It doesn't matter if it was closed

those hookers are expensive

Jack Sparrow · 05-10-2011, 12:14 AM

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Originally Posted by carzygirls

So do you buy from choker or no?

The reason frisky started this was because he believes he will receive 500,000 hits and not a single sale. Not a "honing" of landing pages and traffic should have converted a little better but not a fuckin' sale.

That is what firsky is sayin' and reason he started this.

No not really. The reason i started this was because choker was in a shitstirring mood calling out the camsiteowners for a test.

I then did the same thing. You can see the complete story in his thread, a link to that is posted somewhere above in this thread.

Im not expecting to get rich or make even a buck from it. Its just to show that if YOU call people out in this biz, someone can do the same exact thing with a service like choker.

The same day i posted THIS thread he starts building up his bullshit excuses about traffic, landingpages not being ok, whitelabels, the domain etc etc.

The whitelabel is a handmade customized full site from streamate. You think they are building these things, BY HAND, because they suck?

I asked you 4 TIMES to manage the buy and guide it choker, you have had your chance. Now its JUST like we expected huh, lots of complaining about traffic and landing pages. If you where so confident you would do better why not manage it? I know: You couldnt use that lame excuse if you did.

About sending it from 4-5 diff. brokers at the same time. That could have been better, but it shouldnt mean a difference between having 0 sales or 20 sales.

Im not following where you got all these new rules from choker, can you point me to it?

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Originally Posted by seeandsee

any results coming in? :D

Will take some time.

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Originally Posted by cam_girls

This side bet is all moot!

Frisky doesn't have a stand alone camgirls site.

Back to the original bet with 5 CamGirls sites!

And like everyone said, you'll need 500 days, not 5 days to isolate the revenue.

Or you can setup NATS on a Streamate W/L and do the tracking.

YOU dont have a stand alone camgirls site either then dumbwit.
I have the same whitelabel as you have on your site lol

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Originally Posted by Just Alex

So he said "no whitelabel" and all 5 brokers at the same time?
Whats so difficult there?

Im not even sure where he said that. I dont even care anymore, i had expected all these excuses. Doing it my way now.

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Originally Posted by Choker

Yeah the conditions were very clear, no whitelabels, send to 5 brokers at the same time to the same site.

In that other thread you changed the rules and added a bunch all the time.
Its my rules now

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Originally Posted by Choker

My excuses? Lol

1. He agreed to buy from 5 different brokers at the same time, He's not.
2. He agreed to no whitelabels. He's sending to his own whitelabel site.

I agreed to a fair comparison test with me and 4 other brokers. This is not what he's doing , now is it? No skin off me teeth. He's buying $400 of traffic from me, his whitelabel looks like shit but hey I don't care, he's not even sending to a good page. He's actually sending to the worst page possible. He is purposly trying to NOT get signups so he can say look how shitty Chokers traffic is. Anyone who does not see this is blind.

Like said, you had your chance to manage the buy: You didnt, with the purpose to come up with this lame excuse.

We can still change it though, you know better? Manage the buy! Come on, show your balls bro!

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Originally Posted by B.Barnato

I think Frisky is truly clueless, I doubt he can afford to blow $400 just to make a point.

Considering that he claims to be a successful it took an extraordinary long time to scrape that money together...

Uhm yes, sure.

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Originally Posted by Jakez

Looks like Choker has fucked him again.

Not at all. He didnt before, he didnt know. He just thinks he did. But if you want to share yourself with the choker support group be my guest. If i where you i would check the program owners that i still send traffic too.

carzygirls · 05-10-2011, 12:20 AM

@ frisky...

you are calling him out bc you bought traffic from him before and it didn't convert.

You are publicly buying traffic and it ....??

I think you should know at this stage of the game how it works... ya know

Jack Sparrow · 05-10-2011, 12:30 AM

Not following you.

I never bought his traffic before. I do know how it works, ive been doing this for the last 8-9 years. I know the outcome, but theres a lot of new people that dont.

Choker and all his so called friends (funny how most of them have fake nicks) can bs all day long about whats wrong with this test, my pages, my sites, my other sites, google bitchslappin and whatever. Funny how they are trying to derail a simple test with all sorts of bs.

Test goes like i said it would go.

ArsewithClass · 05-10-2011, 01:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Dedi

Not true... there are people out there who would be happy to share valuable info with others, especially on a forum where a "community" mindframe is fostered.

Plus, this isn't even a big deal. I'm pretty sure nobody here thinks they're going to get rich quick by sending brokered traffic to a white lable cam site.

Once the site is started its always quick to jump on the band wagon also...

So Dedi, I agree with you, a forum such as GFY should & can be used to chat about any ideas, its just hoping that the forum can work as a community to work positively and not against people. That way, maybe we all can earn & make good from ideas & the business

Jack Sparrow · 05-10-2011, 02:51 AM

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Originally Posted by ArsewithClass

Once the site is started its always quick to jump on the band wagon also...

So Dedi, I agree with you, a forum such as GFY should & can be used to chat about any ideas, its just hoping that the forum can work as a community to work positively and not against people. That way, maybe we all can earn & make good from ideas & the business

Amen to that.

seeandsee · 05-10-2011, 03:35 AM

We need more BIZ threads, traffic testing, tutorials, ideas etc... This thread got some wrong direction, but i hope somebody will make one BIG testing thread of traffic soon

Vjo · 05-10-2011, 04:08 AM

Frisky, respect for doing this test. You dont need Choker's approval or any approval from the other 4 brokers. Just do it. Your rules. Whatever rules. Who cares about rules.

Let's just see how heavy amounts of skim from 5 brokers do conversion wise to a cam site.

Let's not have 2 week threads on the other 4 brokers before the test.

Just do it man. Prove you can afford the $2000 to the doubters and prove you dont care about losing some money as well as dont care about using your money to educate the public.

This is really the bottom line of why this test has never been done before and will never be done imo. Tho I would love to see it and you WILL be the man if you do it.

Or just do $400 at a time to one broker if you like. That is still a good test. Or do $200 to 5 brokers. ($1000) That should be enough. Your money, your rules.

Vjo · 05-10-2011, 04:55 AM

Shit, get in with a confident payop, send to their site. Kick ass. Become Joe Affils main man,

establish lifelong good will with Joe Affil and said payop

get a nice kickback from said payop (maybe yourself) win win win

Or... lose money. But maybe not. That is really the question here. Will the price of skim hold up?

There is plenty for sale so it aint like there will be a run on the skim market if you kick ass. Obviously it is not selling that well thus, the writing is already on the wall... skim is basicly overpriced and prob you will lose 50%+ of your investment.

I'm from Missouri. Show me.

Just Alex · 05-10-2011, 05:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Jack Sparrow

No not really. The reason i started this was because choker was in a shitstirring mood calling out the camsiteowners for a test.

I then did the same thing. You can see the complete story in his thread, a link to that is posted somewhere above in this thread.

Im not expecting to get rich or make even a buck from it. Its just to show that if YOU call people out in this biz, someone can do the same exact thing with a service like choker.

The same day i posted THIS thread he starts building up his bullshit excuses about traffic, landingpages not being ok, whitelabels, the domain etc etc.

The whitelabel is a handmade customized full site from streamate. You think they are building these things, BY HAND, because they suck?

I asked you 4 TIMES to manage the buy and guide it choker, you have had your chance. Now its JUST like we expected huh, lots of complaining about traffic and landing pages. If you where so confident you would do better why not manage it? I know: You couldnt use that lame excuse if you did.

About sending it from 4-5 diff. brokers at the same time. That could have been better, but it shouldnt mean a difference between having 0 sales or 20 sales.

Im not following where you got all these new rules from choker, can you point me to it?

Will take some time.

YOU dont have a stand alone camgirls site either then dumbwit.
I have the same whitelabel as you have on your site lol

Im not even sure where he said that. I dont even care anymore, i had expected all these excuses. Doing it my way now.

In that other thread you changed the rules and added a bunch all the time.
Its my rules now

Like said, you had your chance to manage the buy: You didnt, with the purpose to come up with this lame excuse.

We can still change it though, you know better? Manage the buy! Come on, show your balls bro!

Uhm yes, sure.

Not at all. He didnt before, he didnt know. He just thinks he did. But if you want to share yourself with the choker support group be my guest. If i where you i would check the program owners that i still send traffic too.

So whats the point of doing this if you're doing it half-assed way anyway?
Based on the quote above he said "all 5 brokers at the same time, same site and no while label sites"

Vjo · 05-10-2011, 05:32 AM

The problem is noone can make a profit direct to pay or cam (or any) sites off skim or they could do as I said and grab this biz by the balls and say..

"Check these stats, look how well my site converted my $1000 of skim from these 5 brokers. ($200 each)"

Boom! They are the next Fantasyman.

But it never happens.

Django · 05-10-2011, 06:25 AM

Jack Sparrow · 05-10-2011, 06:28 AM

Alex: its my rules now and its more then a viable test.
No matter what they say. 100k premium usa only traffic.

End of story.

CurrentlySober · 05-10-2011, 07:02 AM

I'm glad that I just like poo...

All this other stuff is like, er, really, well, *complicated*...

CyberHustler · 05-10-2011, 07:07 AM

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Originally Posted by CurrentlySober

I'm glad that I just like poo...

All this other stuff is like, er, really, well, *complicated*...

I thought you got off the poo?

2MuchMark · 05-10-2011, 07:30 AM

Choker clearly said "No White Labels", so sorry Jack but you are out. You too, cam_girls.

I'm interested in giving this experiment a try and have sent a note to Choker letting him know.

It would be nice if all the NOISE could be kept down. (Then again, this is GFY, so..) I think this is a really valid experiment. If we can keep the insults and fighting down and instead concentrate on the details and parameters of the experiment, there might be some good stuff to learn here.

Jakez · 05-10-2011, 11:22 AM

He's not going to manage the buy because you hardly followed any of the guidelines, so he's going to do exactly what you figured (and rightly so) and say that you had a horrible setup and that's why it didn't convert. He's not going to manage something outside his rules because he thinks it will fail based on the setup and not the traffic source, so why would he manage it?

The rules were pretty simple and plain IMO, if you didn't see where he said no whitelabels and send from all brokers at once well then that's your bad not anyone elses, it was easily said more than once. If you want to shut him up then you'll have to follow the rules (even if they're his) you both initially agreed to and then he will manage the traffic and you can hopefully get what you want. However the way this has went everyones views are still going to be skewed. Don't be mad that I am sticking up for the side which I think is correct, like I've always done, I'm not on anyones side and never was lol.

If you just wanted to post a test of 100k of his traffic you should have said that in the first place, 100k is plenty and if NOTHING comes from it then I agree it has to be some pretty shit traffic, but at least attempt to set it up to make sales and take Chokers advice about the landing page and whatnot. But you aren't new to promoting cams as far as I know so maybe that is the best way that has worked for you? Then again why would you want to make his traffic look good? Which brings us back to the original point, if you think his traffic is so shitty then follow the rules so he can manage it and there will be no excuses.

Either way we were all waiting for a much different test. If you want to post a test of 100k from Choker that's fine, but it was supposed to be 5 brokers at once to a non-white label and same landing page for all. That would prove how Choker compares to other brokers. If there were sales from the other brokers traffic and none from Chokers then you'd have him by the balls, but just testing a big chunk of his traffic it could still be ruled out as a bad setup. Anyways I'll still be waiting for the results.

Just Alex · 05-10-2011, 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Jack Sparrow

Alex: its my rules now and its more then a viable test.
No matter what they say. 100k premium usa only traffic.

End of story.

Meaning you are not doing what was agreed upon and wasting time. So you'll get one sign-up and then what? You going to start running around telling people his traffic blows?

barcodes · 05-10-2011, 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Jakez

Either way we were all waiting for a much different test. If you want to post a test of 100k from Choker that's fine, but it was supposed to be 5 brokers at once to a non-white label and same landing page for all. That would prove how Choker compares to other brokers. If there were sales from the other brokers traffic and none from Chokers then you'd have him by the balls, but just testing a big chunk of his traffic it could still be ruled out as a bad setup. Anyways I'll still be waiting for the results.

I copied his original post from his old thread above. To my understanding, he was going to sign up to 5 willing cam sites (non white label) and send 20k of us, eu, ae, whatever traffic to an afiliate link created through a third party for each company, then report which cam site converted the best. It's been a while and maybe the initial contest was changed, but i think that was the initial reason for the cam contest.

Internet User · 05-10-2011, 11:49 AM

Choker, why do you even bother with this assclown?

Everyone knows Frisky is just a loser with a big mouth.

Jack Sparrow · 05-10-2011, 11:54 AM

Jakez: he wasnt going to manage the traffic no matter what.
He said that from the beginning.

You should by all means stand by the side you think is right, i didnt have the intention to push you somewhere.

The so called whitelabel excuse people are using here is utter bullshit. The wl i have from streamate is exactly like the originals, ONsite no cheap bullshit but manually made ON tge domain. There is no excuse why i cloudnt send it there. None. Ask any camsite program owner or any big traffic site owner. These kinda wl's work perfectly fine with real premium traffic. Hell they even work with shitty tube traffic.

The traffic is sold by brokers to affiliates just like that for $4/k without pointers, guidance or management, just like in chokers system.

Its the traffic webmasters that dont know anything buy. Its traffic veterans try. Its what brokers make money from.

They advertise it as premium, then lets see how it goes.

But these excuses about bullshit rules, ridiculous.

It doesnt matter if o send it from 5 or 100 brokers at once. The difference should never be huge. Litlle factors counted in, it could never mean a difference in 1 sale on 100,000 US surfers or 100 sales. You will never get a flawless test. But this can hardly be called halfassed because its not following the exact bs rules choker makes up.

Dont like it? Fine then just ignore the results.

Its my test, my rules now.

Jack Sparrow · 05-10-2011, 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Internet User

Choker, why do you even bother with this assclown?

Everyone knows Frisky is just a loser with a big mouth.

Thats why i do biz with the big boys on a daily basis and you need to hide behind a fake nick, right?

Lol

05-09-2011, 08:10 PM	#71
plsureking bored Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Metaverse Posts: 4,703	i've tried all of the traffic vendors and choker converts the best. in my experiments anyway.. . __________________ #

05-10-2011, 03:35 AM	#85
seeandsee Check SIG! Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Europe (Skype: gojkoas) Posts: 50,945	We need more BIZ threads, traffic testing, tutorials, ideas etc... This thread got some wrong direction, but i hope somebody will make one BIG testing thread of traffic soon __________________ BUY MY SIG - 50$/Year Contact here

05-10-2011, 04:08 AM	#86
Vjo So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Happy 4th of July :) Posts: 6,082	Frisky, respect for doing this test. You dont need Choker's approval or any approval from the other 4 brokers. Just do it. Your rules. Whatever rules. Who cares about rules. Let's just see how heavy amounts of skim from 5 brokers do conversion wise to a cam site. Let's not have 2 week threads on the other 4 brokers before the test. Just do it man. Prove you can afford the $2000 to the doubters and prove you dont care about losing some money as well as dont care about using your money to educate the public. This is really the bottom line of why this test has never been done before and will never be done imo. Tho I would love to see it and you WILL be the man if you do it. Or just do $400 at a time to one broker if you like. That is still a good test. Or do $200 to 5 brokers. ($1000) That should be enough. Your money, your rules. Last edited by Vjo; 05-10-2011 at 04:19 AM..

05-10-2011, 04:55 AM	#87
Vjo So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Happy 4th of July :) Posts: 6,082	Shit, get in with a confident payop, send to their site. Kick ass. Become Joe Affils main man, establish lifelong good will with Joe Affil and said payop get a nice kickback from said payop (maybe yourself) win win win Or... lose money. But maybe not. That is really the question here. Will the price of skim hold up? There is plenty for sale so it aint like there will be a run on the skim market if you kick ass. Obviously it is not selling that well thus, the writing is already on the wall... skim is basicly overpriced and prob you will lose 50%+ of your investment. I'm from Missouri. Show me. Last edited by Vjo; 05-10-2011 at 04:58 AM..

05-10-2011, 05:32 AM	#89
Vjo So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Happy 4th of July :) Posts: 6,082	The problem is noone can make a profit direct to pay or cam (or any) sites off skim or they could do as I said and grab this biz by the balls and say.. "Check these stats, look how well my site converted my $1000 of skim from these 5 brokers. ($200 each)" Boom! They are the next Fantasyman. But it never happens. Last edited by Vjo; 05-10-2011 at 05:39 AM..

05-09-2011, 06:46 PM	#65
HardlinkSells Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 991	Did I win that 100 dollar contest?

05-09-2011, 06:47 PM	#66
HardlinkSells Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 991	I have to pay for a hooker and I really need the money.

05-09-2011, 08:20 PM	#75
ThatOtherGuy - BANNED FOR LIFE So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 1,241	About sums this up.

05-09-2011, 08:58 PM	#77
HardlinkSells Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 991	Hey I was curious if I won that 100 bucks, get back to me please

05-10-2011, 12:20 AM	#81
carzygirls So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 857	@ frisky... you are calling him out bc you bought traffic from him before and it didn't convert. You are publicly buying traffic and it ....?? I think you should know at this stage of the game how it works... ya know

05-10-2011, 12:30 AM	#82
Jack Sparrow Almost goners.. Industry Role: Join Date: May 2008 Location: Netherlands Posts: 11,420	Not following you. I never bought his traffic before. I do know how it works, ive been doing this for the last 8-9 years. I know the outcome, but theres a lot of new people that dont. Choker and all his so called friends (funny how most of them have fake nicks) can bs all day long about whats wrong with this test, my pages, my sites, my other sites, google bitchslappin and whatever. Funny how they are trying to derail a simple test with all sorts of bs. Test goes like i said it would go.

05-10-2011, 06:25 AM	#90
Django So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 2,578

05-10-2011, 06:28 AM	#91
Jack Sparrow Almost goners.. Industry Role: Join Date: May 2008 Location: Netherlands Posts: 11,420	Alex: its my rules now and its more then a viable test. No matter what they say. 100k premium usa only traffic. End of story.

05-10-2011, 07:02 AM	#92
CurrentlySober Too lazy to wipe my ass Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: A Public Bathroom Posts: 38,589	I'm glad that I just like poo... All this other stuff is like, er, really, well, complicated... __________________ My AI Handywork... My Dream Gal... XXX 👁️ 👍️ 💩

05-10-2011, 07:30 AM	#94
2MuchMark Videochat Solutions Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 48,956	Choker clearly said "No White Labels", so sorry Jack but you are out. You too, cam_girls. I'm interested in giving this experiment a try and have sent a note to Choker letting him know. It would be nice if all the NOISE could be kept down. (Then again, this is GFY, so..) I think this is a really valid experiment. If we can keep the insults and fighting down and instead concentrate on the details and parameters of the experiment, there might be some good stuff to learn here. __________________ Custom Coding \| Videochat Solutions \| Age Verification \| IT Help & Support www.2Much.net

05-10-2011, 11:22 AM	#95
Jakez Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: oddfuturewolfgangkillthemall!!!!!!! Posts: 5,656	He's not going to manage the buy because you hardly followed any of the guidelines, so he's going to do exactly what you figured (and rightly so) and say that you had a horrible setup and that's why it didn't convert. He's not going to manage something outside his rules because he thinks it will fail based on the setup and not the traffic source, so why would he manage it? The rules were pretty simple and plain IMO, if you didn't see where he said no whitelabels and send from all brokers at once well then that's your bad not anyone elses, it was easily said more than once. If you want to shut him up then you'll have to follow the rules (even if they're his) you both initially agreed to and then he will manage the traffic and you can hopefully get what you want. However the way this has went everyones views are still going to be skewed. Don't be mad that I am sticking up for the side which I think is correct, like I've always done, I'm not on anyones side and never was lol. If you just wanted to post a test of 100k of his traffic you should have said that in the first place, 100k is plenty and if NOTHING comes from it then I agree it has to be some pretty shit traffic, but at least attempt to set it up to make sales and take Chokers advice about the landing page and whatnot. But you aren't new to promoting cams as far as I know so maybe that is the best way that has worked for you? Then again why would you want to make his traffic look good? Which brings us back to the original point, if you think his traffic is so shitty then follow the rules so he can manage it and there will be no excuses. Either way we were all waiting for a much different test. If you want to post a test of 100k from Choker that's fine, but it was supposed to be 5 brokers at once to a non-white label and same landing page for all. That would prove how Choker compares to other brokers. If there were sales from the other brokers traffic and none from Chokers then you'd have him by the balls, but just testing a big chunk of his traffic it could still be ruled out as a bad setup. Anyways I'll still be waiting for the results. __________________ [email protected] - jakezdumb - 573689400 Killuminati

05-10-2011, 11:49 AM	#98
Internet User So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: May 2011 Location: New York Posts: 544	Choker, why do you even bother with this assclown? Everyone knows Frisky is just a loser with a big mouth.

05-10-2011, 11:54 AM	#99
Jack Sparrow Almost goners.. Industry Role: Join Date: May 2008 Location: Netherlands Posts: 11,420	Jakez: he wasnt going to manage the traffic no matter what. He said that from the beginning. You should by all means stand by the side you think is right, i didnt have the intention to push you somewhere. The so called whitelabel excuse people are using here is utter bullshit. The wl i have from streamate is exactly like the originals, ONsite no cheap bullshit but manually made ON tge domain. There is no excuse why i cloudnt send it there. None. Ask any camsite program owner or any big traffic site owner. These kinda wl's work perfectly fine with real premium traffic. Hell they even work with shitty tube traffic. The traffic is sold by brokers to affiliates just like that for $4/k without pointers, guidance or management, just like in chokers system. Its the traffic webmasters that dont know anything buy. Its traffic veterans try. Its what brokers make money from. They advertise it as premium, then lets see how it goes. But these excuses about bullshit rules, ridiculous. It doesnt matter if o send it from 5 or 100 brokers at once. The difference should never be huge. Litlle factors counted in, it could never mean a difference in 1 sale on 100,000 US surfers or 100 sales. You will never get a flawless test. But this can hardly be called halfassed because its not following the exact bs rules choker makes up. Dont like it? Fine then just ignore the results. Its my test, my rules now.