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Old 05-10-2011, 08:59 AM   #101
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What does it mean - not more, or not less than 500?
They have to reach at least 500 new sales, rebills not included.

When a new rep starts with us, we give them about 200 WMs from our database so they have a base to work with.
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Old 05-10-2011, 09:05 AM   #102
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They have to reach at least 500 new sales, rebills not included.

When a new rep starts with us, we give them about 200 WMs from our database so they have a base to work with.
Got it, thank you Kristin. The day will come and I send you my resume
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They have to reach at least 500 new sales, rebills not included.

When a new rep starts with us, we give them about 200 WMs from our database so they have a base to work with.
LOL, couldn't have made it a little easier for them could ya?

In all seriousness tho, a solid person in this industry with decent contacts can hit 500 sales a month in no time at all, it's only 17 sales a day.
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LOL, couldn't have made it a little easier for them could ya?

In all seriousness tho, a solid person in this industry with decent contacts can hit 500 sales a month in no time at all, it's only 17 sales a day.
you make it sound so easy
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LOL, couldn't have made it a little easier for them could ya?

In all seriousness tho, a solid person in this industry with decent contacts can hit 500 sales a month in no time at all, it's only 17 sales a day.
That's complete bullshit. Anyone in 2011 who can generate 500 new sales a month is a superstar.
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Old 05-10-2011, 01:56 PM   #107
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That's complete bullshit. Anyone in 2011 who can generate 500 new sales a month is a superstar.
Really? From a list of 200 webmasters??? Maybe you're in the wrong business.
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Really? From a list of 200 webmasters??? Maybe you're in the wrong business.
And yet porno bought my house and all my toys...

If those are 200 active webmasters with sites sending traffic, maybe. If they are cheap joins, maybe.

But I doubt it. I'm separating the bullshit from the business here --

Look around you at this industry. I'm not going to name names but I know people who had 5000 member sites that are happy if they do 10 sales a day today. I know people who had million dollar sites doing 100+ joins a day, who are lucky to do 25. I know people on this board with big personalities who have side jobs to pay the bills.

So if you can come up with 6000 new sales a year in 2011 you can write your own ticket.
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Old 05-10-2011, 02:41 PM   #109
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And yet porno bought my house and all my toys...

If those are 200 active webmasters with sites sending traffic, maybe. If they are cheap joins, maybe.

But I doubt it. I'm separating the bullshit from the business here --

Look around you at this industry. I'm not going to name names but I know people who had 5000 member sites that are happy if they do 10 sales a day today. I know people who had million dollar sites doing 100+ joins a day, who are lucky to do 25. I know people on this board with big personalities who have side jobs to pay the bills.

So if you can come up with 6000 new sales a year in 2011 you can write your own ticket.
One of my guy's commission last month was $6400, at $1/sale, you do the math.

You know you can hit me up and I'll take a screenshot to prove it to you too.
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Old 05-10-2011, 02:41 PM   #110
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Really? From a list of 200 webmasters??? Maybe you're in the wrong business.
The last time I could claim to bring in 500 sales was 2005.
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Old 05-10-2011, 02:43 PM   #111
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One of my guy's commission last month was $6400, at $1/sale, you do the math.

You know you can hit me up and I'll take a screenshot to prove it to you too.
I'm not arguing with you, I'm arguing with the people who say it's easy. But hell if you are handing out $6k checks maybe I should come to Tucson and intern.
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Old 05-10-2011, 02:43 PM   #112
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LOL, couldn't have made it a little easier for them could ya?

In all seriousness tho, a solid person in this industry with decent contacts can hit 500 sales a month in no time at all, it's only 17 sales a day.
Well, we baseline things. So if you get WM X who has 20 joins, you have to get him to send 21 before you get credit for it and you only get $1/sale past that baseline.

I've noticed the database isn't as good as it sounds. Those are old WMs who are on auto pilot. You got to be able to utilize your own contacts and have the balls to just cold hit up people.
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One of my guy's commission last month was $6400, at $1/sale, you do the math.

You know you can hit me up and I'll take a screenshot to prove it to you too.
Teach me.
For the love of god teach me.
I must understand how this is and master it.
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Old 05-10-2011, 02:45 PM   #114
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I'm not arguing with you, I'm arguing with the people who say it's easy. But hell if you are handing out $6k checks maybe I should come to Tucson and intern.
Okay phew, I don't like Jimmy arguments.

Seriously though, it isn't easy but it can be done. You can pretty much hit up one of the TB guys at any time and have one of us respond.

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I'm not joking either. As a sales rep, the first person you need to sell is ME! I'm hiring you!

So if you spell my name wrong, how the heck are you gonna do with clients? It's just a good indicator from the start.
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Okay phew, I don't like Jimmy arguments.

Seriously though, it isn't easy but it can be done. You can pretty much hit up one of the TB guys at any time and have one of us respond.

Bison Witches misses you.
I'm sure you're up to your ears in bitter ex-employees looking for the last seat on the gravy train, but I'd sure as hell love to know how you guys do the magic that you do.

Anyway I'd only move back for the pie case at Congress:

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At one point we had five products and 140 employees that occupied to the max both buildings. We trimmed huge and canned all but the mobile and we are stronger since we narrowed our focus.
Yep i gotta agree with you on that Kristin. A very wise friend of mine told me that a while ago... Trying to do everything well like the Brazzers and RK guys do is almost impossible unless you have unlimited amount of resources at your disposal. It's better to just pick out a few specific niches that you UNDERSTAND and do really well and focus on them.
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So if you can come up with 6000 new sales a year in 2011 you can write your own ticket.
I guess I better have a chat with PR_Dave then about increasing my salary. I have Ad buys that are doing 17 sales a day without much day to day work. I just monitor CTR's and swap out banners when it gets below a certain level.
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And yet porno bought my house and all my toys...

If those are 200 active webmasters with sites sending traffic, maybe. If they are cheap joins, maybe.

But I doubt it. I'm separating the bullshit from the business here --

Look around you at this industry. I'm not going to name names but I know people who had 5000 member sites that are happy if they do 10 sales a day today. I know people who had million dollar sites doing 100+ joins a day, who are lucky to do 25. I know people on this board with big personalities who have side jobs to pay the bills.

So if you can come up with 6000 new sales a year in 2011 you can write your own ticket.
??? Are you kidding me? There are a lot of programs will aff reps doing that.
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I love how one mention of affiliate manager in a gfy thread and it instantly gets 2 pages. I understand how their can be some tension between affiliate managers and traffic generating webmasters but its really unjust. It's always the same people in the threads with the same comments. Affiliate managers get treated worse than the the .xxx people, Chris Mallick and the zango people on a good day.
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LOL, couldn't have made it a little easier for them could ya?

In all seriousness tho, a solid person in this industry with decent contacts can hit 500 sales a month in no time at all, it's only 17 sales a day.
someone would actually have to be doing completely NOTHING to do 17 joins a day
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And yet porno bought my house and all my toys...

If those are 200 active webmasters with sites sending traffic, maybe. If they are cheap joins, maybe.

But I doubt it. I'm separating the bullshit from the business here --

Look around you at this industry. I'm not going to name names but I know people who had 5000 member sites that are happy if they do 10 sales a day today. I know people who had million dollar sites doing 100+ joins a day, who are lucky to do 25. I know people on this board with big personalities who have side jobs to pay the bills.

So if you can come up with 6000 new sales a year in 2011 you can write your own ticket.
lmao I brought in 15000+ sales in April, yes 500+ a day
thats just me, not to mention our other sales rockstars like tam, danny & winston
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I'm sure you're up to your ears in bitter ex-employees looking for the last seat on the gravy train, but I'd sure as hell love to know how you guys do the magic that you do.

Anyway I'd only move back for the pie case at Congress:
Not to step on Kristin's or Ross's nuts here but you also have to consider some of the webmasters we are working with in our programs as well. One good webmaster can reach that mark easily--even these days. So with 200 active ones...

What separates Ross from most of us is he can generate good numbers from thin air practically so that makes him invaluable to us because of it.

Except for that fake accent, its' getting old, he really grew up in Cleveland...
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someone would actually have to be doing completely NOTHING to do 17 joins a day
I think a lot of people in our industry believe what everyone else is saying. Thread after thread on GFY about low sales and people just give up. I guess a lot of them are not used to working 10 hours a day to generate good sales.
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lmao I brought in 15000+ sales in April, yes 500+ a day
thats just me, not to mention our other sales rockstars like tam, danny & winston
To be fair, you also have 5 million programs with 20 million sites under you to work with. ;-)
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I think a lot of people in our industry believe what everyone else is saying. Thread after thread on GFY about low sales and people just give up. I guess a lot of them are not used to working 10 hours a day to generate good sales.
Hey bud, yeah I understand that there's webmaster out there suffering I wish I could help them all....

As a sales person in this industry its almost impossible to do 17 joins a day with all these webmasters out there

There's so many more joins out there... I dont think too many people understand that
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Except for that fake accent, its' getting old, he really grew up in Cleveland...
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Yeah what gives? Fuckers!
I agree. We should be making fun of your kilt.
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Old 05-11-2011, 06:57 AM   #142
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Jimmy - ill have to respectfully disagree with you on this.

500 sales a month is VERY easy for a good webmaster these days. Even within my industry its very possible for a single webmaster to do that
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Old 05-11-2011, 06:21 PM   #143
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any webmasters that read this thread, I certainly know how to make you a lot of money.. 1 email will work we'll take it from there
start by paying the ones that are owed money form the SOBV sites you guys "purchased"
that ll be a good start eh?
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22k? I got my first job in adult 13 years ago at 35k ;). But, I also believe in "prove yourself in 60 days or move on" ..

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Ding! Ding! Ding!

I start my affiliate guys at $22k plus commission. If you have experience, good contacts, good rep we will always work with the person to find a happy salary for both parties. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't.

We also provide health, dental and vision insurance, 401k, FSA, Vacation/PTO, and iPads.

Commission is $1 per join with a monthly quota of 500 sales. My guys blow this out of the water, so there is still plenty of money to be made as a rep.

That's why I never got the constant job jumping, Sly and Nadya have been with us for four years and I don't think plan on leaving any time soon. I hope not at least.
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Old 10-04-2011, 07:14 PM   #145
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I have been reading this thread today and think I'd bump this lol.

I'm still looking for two new sales reps to bring in new sales and bring back old affiliates .
I have few candidates that I need to get back to.

Like Kristin said, we can also give the old affiliates for them to start.

Jay and Brandon are still my two main guys and are focusing on different verticals right now, but we still think there are affiliates out there who haven't worked with us.

Oh, the new positions are good with remote too. Hit me up ;)
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