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Old 06-30-2011, 12:21 PM   #1
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All these CCBILL denial emails hurts in my eyes (picture)

Sales are jumping up and down these days like a rollercoaster.. and I really hate seeing all these lovely potential customers being denied from wanking off to all my stuff

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Old 06-30-2011, 12:25 PM   #2
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Do you cascade them to Epoch? It often helps and affiliates still get credit.
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Old 06-30-2011, 12:27 PM   #3
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same thing here, ccbill sales come in waves. its fucked up
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Old 06-30-2011, 12:29 PM   #4
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Sales are jumping up and down these days like a rollercoaster.. and I really hate seeing all these lovely potential customers being denied from wanking off to all my stuff
Could possibly be a lot of the same customers submitting multiple times. We would be happy to look those up for you and see if there is anything out of the ordinary going on. Can you shoot us over the account number you are seeing those on sir?

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I can't believe how many people use CCbill with no backup processor

CCBill has been known for years for their "waves" where they go in decline a lot and then scrub hardly anything cycles

Some people think it's because they're limited some way or another or ten other explanations

No site should NOT have backup processors in place
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Old 06-30-2011, 12:32 PM   #7
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I have been wanting to cascade to Epoch for quite some time but it's not possible as I am a canadian company. Is there any other secondary processors people would recommend that offer their service to canadians?
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So Epoch works with US and EU webmasters but not Canadians? Odd...
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Old 06-30-2011, 12:57 PM   #9
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Old 06-30-2011, 02:03 PM   #10
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Keep in mind that if the surfer goes blind they won't be buying again, so this is long term thinking!
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Old 06-30-2011, 02:05 PM   #11
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So Epoch works with US and EU webmasters but not Canadians? Odd...
Yeah I was very surprised by this also. Not very pleased.
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Old 06-30-2011, 03:09 PM   #12
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Old 06-30-2011, 03:11 PM   #13
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CCBILL is seriously working in mysterious ways

I just had 7 hours with not a single sale.. this hasnt happened in like 3 years.. then I make a test signup to make sure things are working.. and guess what.. 9 minutes after a real sale pops in... I've seen this behaviour 100 times before, soo freaking odd.

That being said.. I have made 100s of test signups before.. and had friends make them from all over the world, and they ALWAYS come through, they never get denied ever.

Just being sad here, move along.. sales sucks today and I shouldn't be checking stats at all
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Old 06-30-2011, 03:30 PM   #14
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I just had 7 hours with not a single sale.. this hasnt happened in like 3 years..

sales sucks today and I shouldn't be checking stats at all
The US is headed into a long holiday weekend with July 4th. It's not unusual to see a dip in traffic and sales.
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Old 06-30-2011, 03:35 PM   #15
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CCBILL is seriously working in mysterious ways

I just had 7 hours with not a single sale.. this hasnt happened in like 3 years.. then I make a test signup to make sure things are working.. and guess what.. 9 minutes after a real sale pops in... I've seen this behaviour 100 times before, soo freaking odd.

That being said.. I have made 100s of test signups before.. and had friends make them from all over the world, and they ALWAYS come through, they never get denied ever.

Just being sad here, move along.. sales sucks today and I shouldn't be checking stats at all
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Old 06-30-2011, 03:36 PM   #16
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CCBILL is seriously working in mysterious ways

I just had 7 hours with not a single sale.. this hasnt happened in like 3 years.. then I make a test signup to make sure things are working.. and guess what.. 9 minutes after a real sale pops in... I've seen this behaviour 100 times before, soo freaking odd.

That being said.. I have made 100s of test signups before.. and had friends make them from all over the world, and they ALWAYS come through, they never get denied ever.

Just being sad here, move along.. sales sucks today and I shouldn't be checking stats at all
Only One time have I ever had a test sale get declined. I think it was a Visa error, because I tried again later that day, and it worked...

I also see several declines from the same person before they get it right or go away.
CCBILL can NOT control the issue of Insufficient Funds. , or make the customer enter the right information..

Transaction Denied by Bank
Please check to ensure you entered your bank's routing number correctly.

I dont know what this one is, but I get this one a ton!
Card Declined at Pre-Auth SC..

Card Expired.

Transaction Denied by Bank.

You Have Submitted Too Many Times Recently.

You currently have a subscription and are unable to signup.

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Old 06-30-2011, 03:49 PM   #17
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Old 06-30-2011, 03:56 PM   #18
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You make a lot of fucking cash then. Wonder how the sale's are looking.
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How many of those denials are from the same customer trying over and over again?
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Canadians cannot join the Illuminati for obvious reasons...
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These denials are less then 5% of total sales and many of them are the same person trying multiple times.

About 20% of these denials ended up getting approved.

June/July is yearly summer slowdown and the 3 day 4th of July weekend is here so it will typically stay slow for little while now.

Has anyone tried a holiday related promo to boost sales? I have


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Old 06-30-2011, 09:28 PM   #23
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I have been wanting to cascade to Epoch for quite some time but it's not possible as I am a canadian company. Is there any other secondary processors people would recommend that offer their service to canadians?
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Another ridiculous thread filled with useless comments by people who should know better.


CCBill (or any processor) is not the one responsible for selling subscriptions to your own website. YOU ARE. If your sales drop off, you easily have 10 different things you should be checking before automatically blaming the billing processor.

Before starting a stupid thread like this that does nothing but piss off the people at CCBill WHO WORK FOR YOU, why don't you run your own credit card on your own site and see what happens instead?

If your card is good, CCBill will charge it. If your card is max'ed out, late, or a credit risk, CCBill will refuse it. If your card is good but CCBill refuses it, CALL YOUR REP at CCBill and ask them what is wrong. They are always standing by to take your calls or didn't you know that?

Did it even occur to you that the declines might be there for your own protection?

Seriously people many of you have been at this game long enough to know better. There are always peaks and valleys in sales and any time you think something is wrong, you talk to the people you work with to figure out a solution. Shit threads like this only keep the costs of processing high. And you wonder why they charge 14.5%.
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I can't believe how many people use CCbill with no backup processor

CCBill has been known for years for their "waves" where they go in decline a lot and then scrub hardly anything cycles

Some people think it's because they're limited some way or another or ten other explanations

No site should NOT have backup processors in place
I use to see this type of thing way too often back in the days with ClickCash.

Sure some of them are valid denials, but when your sales come in waves it's like someone turns the light green and the transactions get processed. I wandered if this was CC themselves, but surely it was their processors.

Any reason why people do see those very real "waves" of approvals? Always wanted to know.
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Did it even occur to you that the declines might be there for your own protection?

Seriously people many of you have been at this game long enough to know better.
Did it ever occur to you that ccbill actually does prevent sales from going through?
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Hey email me i have something that will make you a shitload with ccbill ;)
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Only One time have I ever had a test sale get declined. I think it was a Visa error, because I tried again later that day, and it worked...

I also see several declines from the same person before they get it right or go away.
CCBILL can NOT control the issue of Insufficient Funds. , or make the customer enter the right information..

Transaction Denied by Bank
Please check to ensure you entered your bank's routing number correctly.

I dont know what this one is, but I get this one a ton!
Card Declined at Pre-Auth SC..

Card Expired.

Transaction Denied by Bank.

You Have Submitted Too Many Times Recently.

You currently have a subscription and are unable to signup.

Invalid Credit Card Provided.
We would be happy to go over your declines with you and help explain them at anytime.
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Only One time have I ever had a test sale get declined. I think it was a Visa error, because I tried again later that day, and it worked...

I also see several declines from the same person before they get it right or go away.
CCBILL can NOT control the issue of Insufficient Funds. , or make the customer enter the right information..

Transaction Denied by Bank
Please check to ensure you entered your bank's routing number correctly.

I dont know what this one is, but I get this one a ton!
Card Declined at Pre-Auth SC..

Card Expired.

Transaction Denied by Bank.

You Have Submitted Too Many Times Recently.

You currently have a subscription and are unable to signup.

Invalid Credit Card Provided.
not a bad job of listing the denial types we have become all to familiar with but I might mention that you forgot one type of decline and if I may be so kind as to add it to your list in hopes of enlightening the gfy community

You are receiving this email to let you know that xxxxxxxxxx attempted to subscribe to account xxxxxxxxxxx and was declined due to Transaction Declined.


On a side note I brewed a cup of my own coffee this morning and did not have to wait for an APPROVAL to drink my cup of coffee.
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Sales are jumping up and down these days like a rollercoaster.. and I really hate seeing all these lovely potential customers being denied from wanking off to all my stuff

I generally email these denied surfers weekly: stating why they got declined, the steps to get approved, etc to get their membership. CCBill makes it very easy to see which of these surfers got approved when they tried a 2nd, 3rd or even 4th time.

Just because they were denied initially, doesn't mean they're a lost sale.
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No no Shap - YOU email ME. LOL
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