Mother whose son was killed by drunk driver charged with manslaughter - GoFuckYourself.com

MrMaxwell · 07-26-2011, 02:13 AM

So she gets off of a bus, and is jaywalking.. why? Because she doesn't want to go all the way up a long block through some dark scary shit and then all the way back down that same long block.. to get her kids home.

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/...XBhZ2U-;_ylv=3

I hope someone causes great harm to whoever let the drunk driver get off with six months and to whoever was on the panel that convicted this woman.

Justice, my balls.

seanchai · 07-26-2011, 02:27 AM

1. How the fuck does that guy get 6 months and not life?
2. What the fuck is jaywalking? I think the US is the only country in the world with that law. Everytime I get caught in the USA doing it, I turn on the Dick Van Dyke and get away with it.

ottopottomouse · 07-26-2011, 04:10 AM

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Originally Posted by seanchai

2. What the fuck is jaywalking?

Appears to just be crossing the road??

Phoenix · 07-26-2011, 06:24 AM

i feel for her sure...but teaching her kids to jaywalk is stupid
but here is an example i witnessed just yesterday

a father mother and two kids, one walking and one in a stroller...decided to cross...at the cross walk even, but they decided they had enough time to cross when it wasnt there turn.
so they start out, and then realise they are now standing in front of oncoming traffic.
they then have to run from oncoming cars...sure people are slowing down for them.
but their kid just learned it is ok to step out in front of oncoming cars

brilliant

Tom_PM · 07-26-2011, 06:48 AM

I see the article says the locals think you should just walk however far it is, so I guess they figure everything is just fine. All fair and balanced. 6 months for the killer, 2 years for the grieving mom. What a great place to live and raise a family.

AnimeFevers · 07-26-2011, 06:58 AM

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Originally Posted by ottopottomouse

Appears to just be crossing the road??

I never knew you could get in trouble for crossing the road...

Phoenix · 07-26-2011, 06:59 AM

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Originally Posted by PR_Tom

I see the article says the locals think you should just walk however far it is, so I guess they figure everything is just fine. All fair and balanced. 6 months for the killer, 2 years for the grieving mom. What a great place to live and raise a family.

i feel for her, but she was taking her kids across a crazy busy road it seems
not some little side street

Rochard · 07-26-2011, 07:15 AM

Jaywalking is when you cross the street without using the crosswalk:

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Jaywalking is an informal term commonly used in North America to refer to illegal or reckless pedestrian crossing of a roadway.

Pretty simple - you can't just cross a busy street where ever you want. There are laws about this. Cross a busy street recklessly and you get hit. In this case, the woman took her kids and just crossed the street.

Pretty fucked up that she got more than the drunk driver, but at the end of the day she is directly responsable for her child being hit.

sperbonzo · 07-26-2011, 07:18 AM

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Originally Posted by AnimeFevers

I never knew you could get in trouble for crossing the road...

When you cross the road the driver has a responsibility to stop and/or avoid hitting you.

By the same token you, as a pedestrian, have a responsibility to cross at a cross walk, and not in the middle of a busy street.

You can't hold drivers responsible if someone just walks out into traffic, or there would be total chaos on the roads.

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JamesGw · 07-26-2011, 08:03 AM

I think the drunk driver should have definitely gotten more. Both him and the mother contributed, although one was clearly doing more wrong than the other.

96ukssob · 07-26-2011, 08:46 AM

wow that is absolutely retarded

ajrocks · 07-26-2011, 08:47 AM

In Canada there are to guys that are getting 6 months house arrest for vehicular manslaughter of two women. They had been racing on city streets and caused a 7 car accident that lead to the deaths.

6 months house arrest? For the love of god.

bronco67 · 07-26-2011, 08:49 AM

I jaywalk right in front of cops in NYC, and they don't even look at me.

MetaMan · 07-26-2011, 08:50 AM

Ok i am sorry i do not agree with most people. Who's to say him being drunk caused the accident? no you shouldnt drive drunk. but if someone is J walking on a busy road where you dont expect pedestrians then there is no way to prove being drunk caused the deaths.

every fucking person on the road is hopped up on caffeine, high on meds, tired etc etc. its just how it is.

it was her actions that caused it. prove to me him being drunk caused it and we have a different story. it was 100% her fault.

_Richard_ · 07-26-2011, 09:08 AM

story is outrageous

Tom_PM · 07-26-2011, 09:48 AM

I think when the story was on tv yesterday they mentioned the man being on medication and having problems with his vision.

I wonder how many jaywalking tickets they issue where there is no accident?

L-Pink · 07-26-2011, 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by MetaMan

Ok i am sorry i do not agree with most people. Who's to say him being drunk caused the accident? no you shouldnt drive drunk. but if someone is J walking on a busy road where you dont expect pedestrians then there is no way to prove being drunk caused the deaths.

every fucking person on the road is hopped up on caffeine, high on meds, tired etc etc. its just how it is.

it was her actions that caused it. prove to me him being drunk caused it and we have a different story. it was 100% her fault.

There we go. Unpopular but the truth. The driver didn't hit them on the sidewalk did he? If that woman had not crossed the street that "drunk" driver would have driven right on by. The mother caused everything by not using the common sense adults are supposed to have.

Really, who the hell can't judge if it's safe to cross a street? But jail, no way she is suffering enough.
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lazycash · 07-26-2011, 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by MetaMan

Ok i am sorry i do not agree with most people. Who's to say him being drunk caused the accident? no you shouldnt drive drunk. but if someone is J walking on a busy road where you dont expect pedestrians then there is no way to prove being drunk caused the deaths.

every fucking person on the road is hopped up on caffeine, high on meds, tired etc etc. its just how it is.

it was her actions that caused it. prove to me him being drunk caused it and we have a different story. it was 100% her fault.

I agree, and I'm sure she was convicted because witnesses showed she was negligent by allowing her kids to dart out in the middle of traffic. Also, the thread title is not accurate, nowhere does it say the guy was "drunk". He admitted to having had drinks and being on medication the night of the incident, but because he fled the scene there's no way to know what his blood alcohol level was.

As a parent I can't imagine trying to cross a busy street and not restraining my child by holding their hand and crossing with them and certainly not crossing outside the crosswalk. She allows her first child to dart across the road without her, then watches as her second child follows shortly after and gets killed, you would have thought she would have at least restrained the second one before he ran out.

As a follow up to this story, she was not sentenced to any jail time, but received 12 months probation. http://www.cnn.com/2011/CRIME/07/26/...er.sentencing/

DWB · 07-26-2011, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by seanchai

1. How the fuck does that guy get 6 months and not life?
2. What the fuck is jaywalking? I think the US is the only country in the world with that law. Everytime I get caught in the USA doing it, I turn on the Dick Van Dyke and get away with it.

Last time I was in LA I got a jaywalking ticket in downtown LA at like 10pm while loading some gear into my jeep. My friend got one too. The police said we would be mailed a ticket, how much to pay and all of that.

Mine never came.

So I asked my friend if he got his, he said yes, it was a little over $100 and he paid it. I called whatever department at the time I had to call and they informed me that it was "optional" to actually mail anything to me and that I missed the pay date and I now owe the city $1000 and some change. For walking across the street, on an empty downtown street, at 10pm, and doing so not on the designated walking area which was about 20 feet from where I was actually walking.

Go figure. I can see why we're hated for our freedoms.

lazycash · 07-26-2011, 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by L-Pink

But jail, no way she is suffering enough.
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Yeah, looks like the court agreed and did the right thing, she only received 12 months probation and has to take a child safety class.

lazycash · 07-26-2011, 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by DWB

Last time I was in LA I got a jaywalking ticket in downtown LA at like 10pm while loading some gear into my jeep. My friend got one too. The police said we would be mailed a ticket, how much to pay and all of that.

Mine never came.

So I asked my friend if he got his, he said yes, it was a little over $100 and he paid it. I called whatever department at the time I had to call and they informed me that it was "optional" to actually mail anything to me and that I missed the pay date and I now owe the city $1000 and some change. For walking across the street, on an empty downtown street, at 10pm, and doing so not on the designated walking area which was about 20 feet from where I was actually walking.

Go figure. I can see why we're hated for our freedoms.

Please tell me you didn't pay the $1000.

John-ACWM · 07-26-2011, 10:23 AM

Sadly, it's one case form millions around the globe.

Tom_PM · 07-26-2011, 10:24 AM

I'm glad to see she got probation and no jail time.

DWB · 07-26-2011, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by lazycash

Please tell me you didn't pay the $1000.

No.

I found out about it like a week before I was leaving the country and I was closing up all of my USA loose ends. I told them I was leaving and would be more than happy to pay the original fine, or even double, but I wasn't paying $1000 and come next week I would be out of the country and they wouldn't get shit. They didn't budge. I left.

I've since checked to make sure I don't have a warrant on me and I don't, so piss on them and their $1000 jaywalking ticket.

Deej · 07-26-2011, 02:33 PM

Im going to go with that it is her fault. Sure perhaps the drugs hindered his reaction time, but the majority of blame falls on her. Should she get that sentence. No.

blackmonsters · 07-26-2011, 02:38 PM

I feel sorry for the mom for this reason :

People from smaller cities have absolutely no training in crossing the street
or walking in the street.

I know this to be a fact because I grew up in a small city and looked like a
fool as a pedestrian when I moved to LA.

I got a jay walking ticket within my first month.

People who live in the suburbs have to drive everywhere to do shopping, school and
work, because nothing is in walking distance of their homes.
They have very little experience walking in traffic.

This is actually taught in the schools, but where is the practice?

mountainmiester · 07-26-2011, 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by lazycash

I agree, and I'm sure she was convicted because witnesses showed she was negligent by allowing her kids to dart out in the middle of traffic. Also, the thread title is not accurate, nowhere does it say the guy was "drunk". He admitted to having had drinks and being on medication the night of the incident, but because he fled the scene there's no way to know what his blood alcohol level was.

As a parent I can't imagine trying to cross a busy street and not restraining my child by holding their hand and crossing with them and certainly not crossing outside the crosswalk. She allows her first child to dart across the road without her, then watches as her second child follows shortly after and gets killed, you would have thought she would have at least restrained the second one before he ran out.

As a follow up to this story, she was not sentenced to any jail time, but received 12 months probation. http://www.cnn.com/2011/CRIME/07/26/...er.sentencing/

I'd have to agree as well. We don't know all of the story as the press is notorious at doing this to create the 'buzz" they need. What I DO see here are two separate crimes and treated as such. Yes, drinking and driving is bad and even though we all do, we also all know it's bad and most wished we hadn't latter. But who is to say whether or not this child could have been saved if he had not been drinking.

But then again, there is the part of responsible parenting. You put your child in harm, even if that harm is someone acting outside the law, you still put your chile in harms way. In the end, could this child have been saved by not walking through traffic?

justinsain · 08-04-2011, 06:16 AM

Just saw on TV the the Judge in the Mom's case decided to give leniency and gave the Mom a choice at her sentencing.

She was given the choice of being convicted and serving six months of probation and performing community service OR having a retrial. The Judge gave her a week to give her decision.

So she got a new Lawyer and appeared on the Today Show this morning to announce that she will go to court again and prove her innocence. Keep in mind she was going to be sentenced something like three years in prison so she is taking a big risk.

Perhaps she thinks she will get a reality show or People Magazine cover

07-26-2011, 02:13 AM	#1
MrMaxwell Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 10,057	Mother whose son was killed by drunk driver charged with manslaughter So she gets off of a bus, and is jaywalking.. why? Because she doesn't want to go all the way up a long block through some dark scary shit and then all the way back down that same long block.. to get her kids home. http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/...XBhZ2U-;_ylv=3 I hope someone causes great harm to whoever let the drunk driver get off with six months and to whoever was on the panel that convicted this woman. Justice, my balls.

07-26-2011, 06:24 AM	#4
Phoenix BACON BACON BACON Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Poems everybody, the laddie fancies himself a poet Posts: 35,457	i feel for her sure...but teaching her kids to jaywalk is stupid but here is an example i witnessed just yesterday a father mother and two kids, one walking and one in a stroller...decided to cross...at the cross walk even, but they decided they had enough time to cross when it wasnt there turn. so they start out, and then realise they are now standing in front of oncoming traffic. they then have to run from oncoming cars...sure people are slowing down for them. but their kid just learned it is ok to step out in front of oncoming cars brilliant __________________ Skype Phoenixskype1 Telegram PhoenixBrad https://quantads.io

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Tom_PM Porn Meister Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 16,443	I see the article says the locals think you should just walk however far it is, so I guess they figure everything is just fine. All fair and balanced. 6 months for the killer, 2 years for the grieving mom. What a great place to live and raise a family. __________________ 43-922-863 Shut up and play your guitar.

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07-26-2011, 02:27 AM	#2
seanchai A Grooby Guy Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 397	1. How the fuck does that guy get 6 months and not life? 2. What the fuck is jaywalking? I think the US is the only country in the world with that law. Everytime I get caught in the USA doing it, I turn on the Dick Van Dyke and get away with it.

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bronco67 Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 29,032	I jaywalk right in front of cops in NYC, and they don't even look at me. __________________

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MetaMan I AM WEB 2.0 Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 28,682	Ok i am sorry i do not agree with most people. Who's to say him being drunk caused the accident? no you shouldnt drive drunk. but if someone is J walking on a busy road where you dont expect pedestrians then there is no way to prove being drunk caused the deaths. every fucking person on the road is hopped up on caffeine, high on meds, tired etc etc. its just how it is. it was her actions that caused it. prove to me him being drunk caused it and we have a different story. it was 100% her fault.

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_Richard_ Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Earth Posts: 30,989	story is outrageous

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Tom_PM Porn Meister Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 16,443	I think when the story was on tv yesterday they mentioned the man being on medication and having problems with his vision. I wonder how many jaywalking tickets they issue where there is no accident? __________________ 43-922-863 Shut up and play your guitar.

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Tom_PM Porn Meister Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 16,443	I'm glad to see she got probation and no jail time. __________________ 43-922-863 Shut up and play your guitar.

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Deej I make pixels work Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: I live here... Posts: 24,386	Im going to go with that it is her fault. Sure perhaps the drugs hindered his reaction time, but the majority of blame falls on her. Should she get that sentence. No. __________________ Deej's Designs n' What Not Hit me up for Design, CSS & Photo Retouching Icq#30096880

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blackmonsters Making PHP work Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: 🌎🌅🌈🌇 Posts: 20,409	I feel sorry for the mom for this reason : People from smaller cities have absolutely no training in crossing the street or walking in the street. I know this to be a fact because I grew up in a small city and looked like a fool as a pedestrian when I moved to LA. I got a jay walking ticket within my first month. People who live in the suburbs have to drive everywhere to do shopping, school and work, because nothing is in walking distance of their homes. They have very little experience walking in traffic. This is actually taught in the schools, but where is the practice? __________________ Make Money with Porn

08-04-2011, 06:16 AM	#28
justinsain Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 3,374	Just saw on TV the the Judge in the Mom's case decided to give leniency and gave the Mom a choice at her sentencing. She was given the choice of being convicted and serving six months of probation and performing community service OR having a retrial. The Judge gave her a week to give her decision. So she got a new Lawyer and appeared on the Today Show this morning to announce that she will go to court again and prove her innocence. Keep in mind she was going to be sentenced something like three years in prison so she is taking a big risk. Perhaps she thinks she will get a reality show or People Magazine cover