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adultmobile · 06-22-2012, 03:25 PM

So a single gay porn producer it is more powerful to let feds freeze assets of porate site than SONY + EMI + UNIVERSAL + RIAA combined?

alias · 06-22-2012, 03:25 PM

Those gays don't fuck around.

DWB · 06-22-2012, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Barefootsies

After this move, you may have to bend over and let the Corbin Fisher gents take a a turn on your rump roast as a personal DWB "thank you" for a job well done. I am sure they would appreciate the gesture.

Blow job AND reach around is in order.

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Originally Posted by tabasco

1 down, several hundred to go

Just get the biggest ones with affiliate programs. If guys are not paid to load, the site won't grow to become a hassle. And besides, the ripple effect of Oron and Megaupload going down (especially when they hand Kim Dotcom his ass), will close a lot of the smaller ones up and make a lot of others be more responsible.

Having said that, if Kim Dotcom walks from all of that and everything is returned to him, that will be a green light for more lockers to do what they want.

DWB · 06-22-2012, 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by adultmobile

So a single gay porn producer it is more powerful to let feds freeze assets of porate site than SONY + EMI + UNIVERSAL + RIAA combined?

According to Damian, no one can succeed because the record industry failed. So the thought of one man doing all of this, simply doesn't compute and will still be impossible, followed be endless drivel about "show me this," and "prove that," and "it can't be done."

mikke · 06-22-2012, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by adultmobile

So a single gay porn producer it is more powerful to let feds freeze assets of porate site than SONY + EMI + UNIVERSAL + RIAA combined?

yes, because they are not gays..

hope we will see nice jump in sales

Kysersoze · 06-22-2012, 03:36 PM

Very nice!

DWB · 06-22-2012, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by mikke

hope we will see nice jump in sales

Wouldn't hold your breath on that one. But it is a step in the right direction, and that is what matters.

signupdamnit · 06-22-2012, 04:27 PM

I think I will let our little friends at the Digital Point forum know about this.

DWB · 06-22-2012, 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by signupdamnit

I think I will let our little friends at the Digital Point forum know about this.

What about all their hard work?

You are going to devastate them. Poor guys.

candyflip · 06-22-2012, 04:33 PM

The site is still up and operating for me. What's up with that, while the others are down?

seeric · 06-22-2012, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by XPays

all domain name roads lead through Virginia no matter what any foreign entity thinks

damn straight. we use it all the time.

NewNick · 06-22-2012, 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by **********

Holy shit!!!

Hey prince ...... Lets dig up that old thread again shall we !

Prick.

You won't believe how much business that lost for you. idiot.

Robbie · 06-22-2012, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by DWB

Ghard headed Damian who says nothing can be done internationally.

Just more proof that international borders are not going to protect you. Bank accounts frozen in Hong Kong due to a US law suit. Who'd a thunk it?

Clowns like damianj have no respect for our business because they aren't really in it to begin with.

Yes, as many of us who really are in this biz have been saying for a while....things are changing and stealing is coming to an end as far as making big money off it is concerned.

topnotch, standup guy · 06-22-2012, 05:14 PM

http://oron.com/ is still up

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adultmobile · 06-22-2012, 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by topnotch, standup guy

http://oron.com/ is still up

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Their hosting company do not know yet that next bill will not be paid (will it?), maybe someone to mail hosting company about frozen assets of the customer.

fris · 06-22-2012, 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by SiMpLe

this quote gave me wood

AdultKing · 06-22-2012, 05:55 PM

Theres a script called MirrorScript doing the rounds that will upload to 28+ file lockers, we've got a long way to go before we kill these all off.

Half man, Half Amazing · 06-22-2012, 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by AdultKing

Theres a script called MirrorScript doing the rounds that will upload to 28+ file lockers, we've got a long way to go before we kill these all off.

Most of which are irrelevant since they don't pay out thus don't attract the prolific uploaders, not to mention few people have or will buy premium accounts there.

You don't have to kill every soldier on the other side, just enough of the generals and the others will surrender.

429mg · 06-22-2012, 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by baryl

Probably will never get to most of those "John Doe" uploaders but would be nice to bag one or two to set an example.

Corbin Fisher did this before, last year.

Barry-xlovecam · 06-22-2012, 07:08 PM

This has been coming for some time -- let's see how it plays out. The fact that the Hong Kong court froze assets of Oron's owners must be making some people very nervous ;)

Looks like someone might of rolled over (no pun intended) in a CYA manuver ...

seeandsee · 06-23-2012, 01:00 AM

what they are waiting for other file pirates?

martinsc · 06-23-2012, 01:03 AM

BIGTYMER · 06-23-2012, 01:15 AM

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Originally Posted by signupdamnit

I think I will let our little friends at the Digital Point forum know about this.

Bad day for them.

careerbuilder · 06-23-2012, 02:23 AM

lol at moron oh sorry oron

buhahaha

Nathan · 06-23-2012, 02:29 AM

Guys, although I love what Corbin fisher did, pls can you guys at least read the whole fuvking press release!!!!

The judge froze CASH assets and hard assets like servers and domains so they can not be MOVED!!! Nothing was seized! This is a precaution because the judge wants to make sure there are enough assets in case he has to act fast since the amount sued for is considerable. This is frozen until the first hearing where oron can argue why they should be unfrozen!

Until we see what happens at that hearing we will not know the future of oron and even if things remain frozen there is no reason to believe that oron.com will be shutdown anytime soon because of this lawsuit.

What we can hope for is that LeaseWeb sees this as enough of a legal risk to shut them down, but for now sadly I could not convince them they should act fast, and neither has ACIUF... We'll see if this lawsuit helps...

Pornbb is down for a completely different reason!

Nathan · 06-23-2012, 02:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam

This has been coming for some time -- let's see how it plays out. The fact that the Hong Kong court froze assets of Oron's owners must be making some people very nervous ;)

Looks like someone might of rolled over (no pun intended) in a CYA manuver ...

This is I think the biggest and most important achievement and will cause much more disruption in the scene if it gets well publicized...

mafia_man · 06-23-2012, 02:43 AM

How about closing gay-torrents.net?

Site is hosted in the US and has a clear link to companies here in the UK. Been online for years clearly floundering the law.

If you need some motivation...

TheDA · 06-23-2012, 02:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam

This has been coming for some time -- let's see how it plays out. The fact that the Hong Kong court froze assets of Oron's owners must be making some people very nervous ;)

Looks like someone might of rolled over (no pun intended) in a CYA manuver ...

Did they though. Are we likely to get any confirmation of this?

DWB · 06-23-2012, 03:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Half man, Half Amazing

You don't have to kill every soldier on the other side, just enough of the generals and the others will surrender.

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Originally Posted by Nathan

Guys, although I love what Corbin fisher did, pls can you guys at least read the whole fuvking press release!!!!

http://www.xbiz.com/news/150308

I'm glad you stepped in.

I was just reading about Pink Visual's lawsuit against Sluload.com and others. RK owns Slutload and Manwin recently merged with RK, so now Manwin is in the middle yet again of some scandalous shit where someone at Sluload (Manwin) is removing Pink Visual's watermarks and re-branding them.

Considering slutload was using digital finger printing, and now part of Manwin, how was this possible?

And I'm guessing it's probably based on your past settlement and their agreement to only speak of Manwin in a positive light, they did not mention "Manwin" anywhere in the new suit. I gotta hand it to you guys, you are playing a perfect hand. Never tarnish the Manwin brand. RK did it.

DWB · 06-23-2012, 03:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Nathan

This is I think the biggest and most important achievement and will cause much more disruption in the scene if it gets well publicized...

It is a huge achievement. The fact that they can put their hands on a Hong Kong bank is impressive.

As you are well aware, the whole purpose of setting up shell corps and holding companies is to protect your assets, which apparently didn't work in this case. That should make a lot of people's ass pucker.

Nathan · 06-23-2012, 03:14 AM

DWB, totally agree, as I said, the Hong Kong fact is the biggest thing here, the freezing of assets in the US for 1-2 week is likely going to not change much.

Regarding your post about how RK owns Slutload and what not...

1) I have not yet seen a press release about RK and Manwin completing a merger, have you?

2) I have not yet seen a press release stating what assets will be merged either, have you?

3) All I have seen is an article that did not come from us which states a filing in Austria which has to take place prior to any such acquisition or merger happening. PRIOR is the keyword here...

So no, you are completely wrong that Manwin is in the middle of some scandalous shit... first of all PV's lawsuit against Slutload is far from Scandalous, its just the same thing they've been doing for the past 2 or so years... nothing new. second, we have not, and will not be buying Slutload. We are not interested in the site, its not good enough in our opinion.

DWB · 06-23-2012, 03:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Nathan

DWB, totally agree, as I said, the Hong Kong fact is the biggest thing here, the freezing of assets in the US for 1-2 week is likely going to not change much.

Yea, my guess is all his cash is sitting in HK. I wouldn't be keeping it in the USA, that is for sure.

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Originally Posted by Nathan

Regarding your post about how RK owns Slutload and what not...

1) I have not yet seen a press release about RK and Manwin completing a merger, have you?

2) I have not yet seen a press release stating what assets will be merged either, have you?

3) All I have seen is an article that did not come from us which states a filing in Austria which has to take place prior to any such acquisition or merger happening. PRIOR is the keyword here...

So no, you are completely wrong that Manwin is in the middle of some scandalous shit... first of all PV's lawsuit against Slutload is far from Scandalous, its just the same thing they've been doing for the past 2 or so years... nothing new. second, we have not, and will not be buying Slutload. We are not interested in the site, its not good enough in our opinion.

I stand corrected. The release was to announce the merger notification, not the completion of a merger.

I guess I'll let you slide on this one.

Nathan · 06-23-2012, 03:30 AM

Thank you DWB ;)

Regarding HK... problem is its only up to 3 million.. FF Magnet I am sure has more than that.. A site like Oron likely makes around 500k-1m a month in profits, at least it has for the longest time... depends on how much they take out of the company each month I guess... So we'll see... it is at least relatively likely that FF Magnet still has enough cash available to pay their hosting and affiliate program for the next couple of weeks if not months...

I hope their lawyer sucks ass, or that I can convince certain people that losing the power cable to their racks is a good idea...

DWB · 06-23-2012, 03:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Nathan

Thank you DWB ;)

Regarding HK... problem is its only up to 3 million.. FF Magnet I am sure has more than that.. A site like Oron likely makes around 500k-1m a month in profits, at least it has for the longest time... depends on how much they take out of the company each month I guess... So we'll see... it is at least relatively likely that FF Magnet still has enough cash available to pay their hosting and affiliate program for the next couple of weeks if not months...

I hope their lawyer sucks ass, or that I can convince certain people that losing the power cable to their racks is a good idea...

Only speaking for myself, but if I was making 500k a month and doing so with that sort of a high risk business model, I would have various bank accounts under various companies, under varies nominee names, in several counties. Cyprus, Lichtenstein, Hong Kong, or where ever. I'd also have a lot of easy to sell tangible assets in the event my cash was frozen.

So you may be right, he may have plenty more sitting elsewhere. If he has 1/2 a brain, he would.

Nathan · 06-23-2012, 03:51 AM

Let's hope he only has 1/4th of a brain then ;)

scottybuzz · 06-23-2012, 04:01 AM

hey , im a little out of the loop. Side topic:

what happened to the mega upload guy? I see the site is still down :D but is he in jail, bail, free?

Paul Markham · 06-23-2012, 05:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Nathan

Guys, although I love what Corbin fisher did, pls can you guys at least read the whole fuvking press release!!!!

The judge froze CASH assets and hard assets like servers and domains so they can not be MOVED!!! Nothing was seized! This is a precaution because the judge wants to make sure there are enough assets in case he has to act fast since the amount sued for is considerable. This is frozen until the first hearing where oron can argue why they should be unfrozen!

Until we see what happens at that hearing we will not know the future of oron and even if things remain frozen there is no reason to believe that oron.com will be shutdown anytime soon because of this lawsuit.

What we can hope for is that LeaseWeb sees this as enough of a legal risk to shut them down, but for now sadly I could not convince them they should act fast, and neither has ACIUF... We'll see if this lawsuit helps...

Pornbb is down for a completely different reason!

What is Manwin doing that compares with what Corbin Fisher and Zero Tolerance are doing to fight piracy?

Slappin Fish · 06-23-2012, 05:16 AM

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Originally Posted by topnotch, standup guy

http://oron.com/ is still up

.

Yep but pornbb.org and other sites they run are down.

Hank_Heartland · 06-23-2012, 05:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Nathan

Thank you DWB ;)

Regarding HK... problem is its only up to 3 million.. FF Magnet I am sure has more than that.. A site like Oron likely makes around 500k-1m a month in profits, at least it has for the longest time... depends on how much they take out of the company each month I guess... So we'll see... it is at least relatively likely that FF Magnet still has enough cash available to pay their hosting and affiliate program for the next couple of weeks if not months...

I hope their lawyer sucks ass, or that I can convince certain people that losing the power cable to their racks is a good idea...

Let's not forget that the 3rd party processors in this are also ordered to hold funds to them...we are talking alot more than the $3 mil in HK they won't have available

Paul Markham · 06-23-2012, 06:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Hank_Heartland

Let's not forget that the 3rd party processors in this are also ordered to hold funds to them...we are talking alot more than the $3 mil in HK they won't have available

This has so many benefits for those taking action, the cost might even be well worth it.

1. As you say it clearly shows these people doing the uploading they're not going to get left alone.

2. It also puts file servers on not notice not to fuck with the plaintiffs. Forget a court deciding yes or no. They don't want this problem down the line. They will do their utmost to avoid it. This might even provide a loop hole in their DMCA protection. So these companies will get their content less pirated on these sites and others.

3. It also deprives many of an income for a few weeks or months. Uploading and spamming it around piracy forums is their job. They have bills to pay.

4. Processors are dragged in. Do they want to be fighting these fights over and over or just drop these guys?

5. It clearly shows the weak points. The money flow.

6. PR. It's telling the customers and affiliates of these companies we will fuck with those that fuck with us.

7. So much nicer than bending over to these ass rapers and just blurting out excuses or saying nothing when asked a direct question.

BIGTYMER · 06-23-2012, 06:30 AM

And the fleas have moved to RapidGator.

RycEric · 06-23-2012, 06:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nathan

Guys, although I love what Corbin fisher did, pls can you guys at least read the whole fuvking press release!!!!

The judge froze CASH assets and hard assets like servers and domains so they can not be MOVED!!! Nothing was seized! This is a precaution because the judge wants to make sure there are enough assets in case he has to act fast since the amount sued for is considerable. This is frozen until the first hearing where oron can argue why they should be unfrozen!

Until we see what happens at that hearing we will not know the future of oron and even if things remain frozen there is no reason to believe that oron.com will be shutdown anytime soon because of this lawsuit.

What we can hope for is that LeaseWeb sees this as enough of a legal risk to shut them down, but for now sadly I could not convince them they should act fast, and neither has ACIUF... We'll see if this lawsuit helps...

Pornbb is down for a completely different reason!

Let's not forget who threw the first punch (some time ago) without ANY lawyers and without ANY big studio money. We did via PP.

Barefootsies · 06-23-2012, 07:04 AM

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Originally Posted by RycEric

Let's not forget who threw the first punch (some time ago) without ANY lawyers and without ANY big studio money. We did via PP.

We'll nominate you for a GFY or XBIZ award for your shining achievements chief.

RycEric · 06-23-2012, 07:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Barefootsies

We'll nominate you for a GFY or XBIZ award for your shining achievements chief.

Thanks.. but we don't run any stolen content tube sites or buy drinks at shows, thus, already disqualified.

nikki99 · 06-23-2012, 07:31 AM

http://www.baja-opcionez.com/ is down

Harmon · 06-23-2012, 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by nikki99

http://www.baja-opcionez.com/ is down

working here

MaDalton · 06-23-2012, 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by nikki99

http://www.baja-opcionez.com/ is down

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Originally Posted by Harmon

working here

http://bitshare.com/premium.html

working here too, but none of the paypal links work?

only the "handy pay" link for me, which is once again provided by micropayment.de

DWB · 06-23-2012, 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by RycEric

Thanks.. but we don't run any stolen content tube sites or buy drinks at shows, thus, already disqualified.

Nautilus · 06-23-2012, 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton

http://bitshare.com/premium.html

working here too, but none of the paypal links work?

Yes paypal links do not work. Wow.

DBS.US · 06-23-2012, 09:58 AM

The gays have the biggest balls

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Nathan Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 3,108	Guys, although I love what Corbin fisher did, pls can you guys at least read the whole fuvking press release!!!! The judge froze CASH assets and hard assets like servers and domains so they can not be MOVED!!! Nothing was seized! This is a precaution because the judge wants to make sure there are enough assets in case he has to act fast since the amount sued for is considerable. This is frozen until the first hearing where oron can argue why they should be unfrozen! Until we see what happens at that hearing we will not know the future of oron and even if things remain frozen there is no reason to believe that oron.com will be shutdown anytime soon because of this lawsuit. What we can hope for is that LeaseWeb sees this as enough of a legal risk to shut them down, but for now sadly I could not convince them they should act fast, and neither has ACIUF... We'll see if this lawsuit helps... Pornbb is down for a completely different reason! __________________ "Think about it a little more and you'll agree with me, because you're smart and I'm right." - Charlie Munger

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Nathan Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 3,108	DWB, totally agree, as I said, the Hong Kong fact is the biggest thing here, the freezing of assets in the US for 1-2 week is likely going to not change much. Regarding your post about how RK owns Slutload and what not... 1) I have not yet seen a press release about RK and Manwin completing a merger, have you? 2) I have not yet seen a press release stating what assets will be merged either, have you? 3) All I have seen is an article that did not come from us which states a filing in Austria which has to take place prior to any such acquisition or merger happening. PRIOR is the keyword here... So no, you are completely wrong that Manwin is in the middle of some scandalous shit... first of all PV's lawsuit against Slutload is far from Scandalous, its just the same thing they've been doing for the past 2 or so years... nothing new. second, we have not, and will not be buying Slutload. We are not interested in the site, its not good enough in our opinion. __________________ "Think about it a little more and you'll agree with me, because you're smart and I'm right." - Charlie Munger

06-23-2012, 03:30 AM	#83
Nathan Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 3,108	Thank you DWB ;) Regarding HK... problem is its only up to 3 million.. FF Magnet I am sure has more than that.. A site like Oron likely makes around 500k-1m a month in profits, at least it has for the longest time... depends on how much they take out of the company each month I guess... So we'll see... it is at least relatively likely that FF Magnet still has enough cash available to pay their hosting and affiliate program for the next couple of weeks if not months... I hope their lawyer sucks ass, or that I can convince certain people that losing the power cable to their racks is a good idea... __________________ "Think about it a little more and you'll agree with me, because you're smart and I'm right." - Charlie Munger

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