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?I say we?re going to replace Obamacare, and I?m replacing it with my own plan,? Romney said. ?And even in Massachusetts, when I was governor, our plan there deals with preexisting conditions and with young people.? http://bostonglobe.com/news/politics...XyN/story.html

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"Romney: Insurance companies should be allowed to deny coverage for pre-existing conditions He also refused to back down from his opposition to the law?s ban on health care companies denying coverage to patients with pre-existing conditions." http://articles.nydailynews.com/2012...-coverage-plan

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" Pre-Existing Condition Insurance Plan: Massachusetts Eligible residents of Massachusetts can apply for coverage through the Pre-Existing Condition Insurance Plan program run by the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services." http://www.healthcare.gov/law/featur...e-plan/ma.html

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"The most disconcerting part about Romney?s rejection of health insurance for those with preexisting conditions is that his position, at least as he outlined it on Leno, is not only factually unfounded, but also made specifically to pander to an increasingly conservative Republican base. With the Republican presidential nomination still up in the air, Romney has been attempting to shift his image more to the right. However, in doing so, he has alienated moderates and the nearly 80 percent of Americans who believe that insurance companies should provide coverage to everyone, including those with preexisting conditions, according to a 2011 poll. " http://www.studlife.com/forum/staff-...tts-condition/

The American people are going to through this shit-heel under the bus and rightfully so. Or call him a bitch -- he changed his mind again ...

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Originally Posted by PR_Tom Ryan and Romney specifically refuse to lay out their tax plan as recently as yesterday on ABC's "This Week". Instead of saying what they plan, Ryan claimed they want to do it in a public way.. to which the host replied that's why I'm asking you here on a public program! lmfao.. I think they might be jerks..

Don't worry -- they have a plan. It is tricking down to you as I type

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham And the moment they can get out of paying they do.

Not true, I was able to get insurance through the state that is federally subsidized high risk for preexisting conditions they have paid out 95% of the time -- I had to supplement some surgical and Cardiologist bills with deductibles. My insurance costs in total are over $1,000 a month for just me ... I may have to pay $100K over the next 8 years to get to Medicare age -- better than dead I guess ...

People suggested I go on disability and let the government pay my medical expense but I have always paid my way and paid taxes for damn near 40 years now.

And Paul, treating cancers in the US health system might cost upwards of $250K in a short time -- sort of hard to write checks in that amount.

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Originally Posted by Robbie Wow! That's pretty damn good! Who are you with? I'm with Blue Cross/Blue Shield and it has only gone up and up over the last 4 years.

A Michigan state run federally subsidised preexsting high risk program. You have to be a basket case to apply -- it is up to $13,900 per person annually. Very expensive but no private insurer would cover me.

Maybe, in 2014 the premiums will go down some with federal subsidies but those will be income determined -- we'll see ... No free ride that is for sure. It is administered by Physician's Health Plan for non-profit hospital that contracted with the state.

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Originally Posted by Robbie Damn, your case is not the average one out there. Hope you're doing okay... What I personally would have like to have seen would have been Obama and the then Dem controlled House & Senate growing a set and making it a real single pay system. But that was just a pipe dream.

Thanks, yes for now anyway.

A single payer system is probably 20 years off. The high cost of healthcare -- and it is just not the wage costs but the research costs and infrastructure costs.

The rapidly developing field of nano-medicine has much promise. http://phys.org/nanotech-news/bio-medicine/ governmental funding in this basic research may be what can save our economy -- for certain extend our survival 10's of years.

It is all a matter of where we decide to spend our treasure and time on. So far, this century is off to a rocky start ... Being able to buy a new shiny toy is nice but to live better and in health is a nobler goal, but can be a costly one.

I am probably the exception to the rule, but when I read articles like this; Health insurance costs up 97% in 10 years: report http://articles.marketwatch.com/2012...alth-insurance there is a serious problem ...

The growth in healthcare costs has declined to 4% in the past year but this chart reflects the rise in government taxpayer paid healthcare costs being slowed down by the recent laws.

The cost of healthcare insurance is effecting the average workers standard of living. In my case; its cost would buy me a new luxury auto, etc.

Five of my cousins are doctors (3 medical doctors (specialists), 2 PhDs) and I am aware of their cost of schooling and in practice their cost of malpractice insurance and other ''business expenses.'' Still, they make bank but their educations cost astronomical amounts over the 13 to 15 years of college and internships, residencies, etc.

Point of the story, if you want to see a decrease in healthcare costs build more medical schools and train more qualified medical professionals. Right now, the supply and demand situation is manipulated to limit availability and support high costs.

Access to affordable healthcare is not a guaranteed constitutional right but in a developed country like the United States it is a human right.