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Old 01-30-2013, 12:42 PM   #1
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phoenix never a hotel room forum

Every year I got a room at Mission Palms or courtyard Marriot (been sold out for 2 months or so). Last year all was booked so I had to get a hotel and use taxis. It's a major inconvenience. Also the show seems to be more for gay companies than straight and it seems sponsor get occupancy of almost 100% of the hotel being at 2 hours after rooms went for sale they sold out.. There is only 2 hotels within walking distance and both sold out. I just feel out of the show and a NON attendee staying off campus. I love the phoenix forum. I been sponsoring Major dinner for almost 10 years at Maestros City Hall ( 1 of my favorite resturaunts in the world). It's the point too. Like I should have to beg for a room. Fuck it. I am kind of pissed.

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the ROOMS went for sale at 9am.. I was busy.. Called at 10:45 am...I didm;'t realize I was buying Justin beiber concert tickets!!
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lots of hotels within a 10 minute cab but yeah, always nice to be on the property
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The idea of a show is the venue is large enough to hold everyone so they can meet and mingle..The Mission Palms is obviously not big enough anymore...If the hotel isn't big enough set up the venue in an area of all walkable hotels. thats how most cities are. I guess Moral of Story is Congrats to gentleman who run the show in that they have done a great job but it's time to move the venue or limit sponsorships.
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I agree entirely. The hotel is a nice spot for a lot of reasons, but if it really sells out that quick and people like us can't get rooms (I tried calling immediately and wasted half my morning for nothing) and are forced to commute it's definitely off putting.
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Not to mention the fact that the hotel has an outdated phone system that can't handle all callers in the order they are received makes trying to book at room the day of a joke.
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Every year I got a room at Mission Palms or courtyard Marriot (been sold out for 2 months or so). Last year all was booked so I had to get a hotel and use taxis. It's a major inconvenience. Also the show seems to be more for gay companies than straight and it seems sponsor get occupancy of almost 100% of the hotel being at 2 hours after rooms went for sale they sold out.. There is only 2 hotels within walking distance and both sold out. I just feel out of the show and a NON attendee staying off campus. I love the phoenix forum. I been sponsoring Major dinner for almost 10 years at Maestros City Hall ( 1 of my favorite resturaunts in the world). It's the point too. Like I should have to beg for a room. Fuck it. I am kind of pissed.

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Thank you for having me at your dinner in Vegas. It was a pleasure to meet you. If you still need a room try http://www.alofttempe.com/.

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Not to mention the fact that the hotel has an outdated phone system that can't handle all callers in the order they are received makes trying to book at room the day of a joke.
Why do you think the phone system isn't distributing calls to the reservations dept in the order they are received?
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cause it's busy
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Thanks dear!! It was great to meet you...

There is beautiful hotels like the W 10 minutes away. I hear for next year they have a new 150 room hotel opening accross the street. So problems should be solved. I just hate the taxi bs. I will end of going...It's a great show...
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cause it's busy
If you get a busy, then the call was not received.

If 911 got as many calls at one time as TMP gets in the first hour, it would probably give you a busy signal as well. I was getting busy circuits as frequently as I got a busy signal. That has NOTHING to do with TMP or their phone system.
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Rent a car and stay at the 4Points on Rural Road. This is what I used to do for years.

Do some shopping, go to a hockey game, go golfing, etc..
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If you get a busy, then the call was not received.

If 911 got as many calls at one time as TMP gets in the first hour, it would probably give you a busy signal as well. I was getting busy circuits as frequently as I got a busy signal. That has NOTHING to do with TMP or their phone system.

I'm not talking about getting a busy signal straight off. The hotel answers, asks what you need. You say reservations and then they forward you to a busy line. Hang up and repeat a hundred times if you really want to try to get a room. Comcast in Chicago handles many more calls constantly than TMP handles during that one period, but they are able to put me in a queue where I wait. I'm willing to wait an hour if that's the demand, but the clown show of talking to the same receptionist every minute only to be transferred to a busy line is a joke.
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I'm not talking about getting a busy signal straight off. The hotel answers, asks what you need. You say reservations and then they forward you to a busy line. Hang up and repeat a hundred times if you really want to try to get a room. Comcast in Chicago handles many more calls constantly than TMP handles during that one period, but they are able to put me in a queue where I wait. I'm willing to wait an hour if that's the demand, but the clown show of talking to the same receptionist every minute only to be transferred to a busy line is a joke.
Then you were not calling the number that was given out. The number you were told to call was an 800 number that is automated and told you to press 1 to call about existing reservations and press 2 to make a new reservation.

And pretty sure Comcast needs a much larger system than a small hotel like TMP
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Its 1.3 miles away from Tempe Mission Palms and 4 miles away from Old Town Scottsdale. Plus TheLoft is a division of W Hotels
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There is beautiful hotels like the W 10 minutes away. I hear for next year they have a new 150 room hotel opening accross the street. So problems should be solved. I just hate the taxi bs. I will end of going...It's a great show...
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If you've attended and booked your own room before, then you would know that the rooms tend to sell out in under an hour. I was actually surprised it took so long for them to sell out this year compared to previous years. The Four Points down the road still had rooms as of this morning at a decent price.
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Every year I got a room at Mission Palms or courtyard Marriot (been sold out for 2 months or so). Last year all was booked so I had to get a hotel and use taxis. It's a major inconvenience. Also the show seems to be more for gay companies than straight and it seems sponsor get occupancy of almost 100% of the hotel being at 2 hours after rooms went for sale they sold out.. There is only 2 hotels within walking distance and both sold out. I just feel out of the show and a NON attendee staying off campus. I love the phoenix forum. I been sponsoring Major dinner for almost 10 years at Maestros City Hall ( 1 of my favorite resturaunts in the world). It's the point too. Like I should have to beg for a room. Fuck it. I am kind of pissed.

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So Howard,after 10 years, is my invite still in the mail for "City Hall" ?
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Don't a bunch of rooms always magically open up as the show approaches?
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magically I tell you !!
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Yeap, people cancel before the cutoff date or just cancel that extra room they reserved so they don't get charged..
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If 911 got as many calls at one time as TMP gets in the first hour, it would probably give you a busy signal as well. I was getting busy circuits as frequently as I got a busy signal. That has NOTHING to do with TMP or their phone system.
actually it does
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Dont think i'd go and stay out of the show hotel tbh but loads of people cancel when theyre about to be charged so get on the list
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So Howard,after 10 years, is my invite still in the mail for "City Hall" ?
Now I feel guilty. Noted. I owe someone a ribeye....,
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Even though I got a room I completely agree with you, time for a larger venue one would think. The staff at the mission palms is always very accommodating, well not so much the gastapo security that will throw you out if your badge isn't front and center at all hours.

What burns my ass (because I'm a cheap heeb) is the so called group rate is about $90 higher per night than the usual rate. Little bit of a fucking imo, yet I pay it and go year after year. /rant ;-)
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I don't care what number I called. If they can't help me out and route me to the proper place that is bad service on the hotel. Lloyd, you can defend them all you want but I was on the phone and you were not. The shit was ridiculous.
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I don't care what number I called. If they can't help me out and route me to the proper place that is bad service on the hotel. Lloyd, you can defend them all you want but I was on the phone and you were not. The shit was ridiculous.
I was on the phone, fighting for spot with everyone else. Calling a different number to try and avoid the line is the same as trying to drive there to make reservations at the desk; they don't allow it.
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I was on the phone, fighting for spot with everyone else. Calling a different number to try and avoid the line is the same as trying to drive there to make reservations at the desk; they don't allow it.
Now you are assuming me calling their normal number was trying to avoid the line? I was stuck home while my computer was being repaired. I called their normal line because that is what I found. Do you have a problem with me all of a sudden?

I spoke with Kathi today. I'm cool with The Phoenix Forum. I had a terrible experience with the Mission Palms service today. All facts.
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Now you are assuming me calling their normal number was trying to avoid the line? I was stuck home while my computer was being repaired. I called their normal line because that is what I found. Do you have a problem with me all of a sudden?
Not at all; just I am looking at it from their perspective. Looking forward to seeing you in Tempe.
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Ok just making sure. Seemed like you had it in for me today. I just had a shitty day in general.

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I just made a reservation a few days ago at the Loft. It looks lovely and it's just over a mile away.

To be honest, I prefer to stay off site. Sometimes it's good to just get away for a bit.

The rooms are only $119 plus tax there btw.
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It's 2013... what's with the busy signals? They can book rooms up online in order of request and require at least a non-refundable deposit.
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Old 02-01-2013, 08:10 AM   #42
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I was on the phone, fighting for spot with everyone else. Calling a different number to try and avoid the line is the same as trying to drive there to make reservations at the desk; they don't allow it.
i dont even know why im wasting my time reading this thread, but reading your posts is just agonizing and extremely annoying.
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Old 02-01-2013, 09:26 AM   #43
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How many years did you work at the phone company?
if the lines aren't available, one can't call. That is in the control of the hotel
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Old 02-01-2013, 09:42 AM   #44
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i dont even know why im wasting my time reading this thread,
neither do I. a surfer who's not going to the show. unemployment leaves you with too much time on your hands.
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Old 02-01-2013, 09:48 AM   #45
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It's 2013... what's with the busy signals? They can book rooms up online in order of request and require at least a non-refundable deposit.
If we all hit an online reservation system at the same rate we hit the phone line when the rooms become open to book, it wouldn't last long.
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Old 02-01-2013, 09:53 AM   #46
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neither do I. a surfer who's not going to the show. unemployment leaves you with too much time on your hands.
I miss you! Hopefully we can have some more laughs over wings this year!
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Haven't gone in 2 years and I'm not going this year either.

The whole point of the Phoenix Forum was to be on property. If you can't do that, it kinda sucks.

Also the local authorities have started clamping down on the nudity, etc. so it's not as much fun as it used to be.

I live in Vegas. I see no reason to spend an entire half a day TRYING to get a room so I can drive down to Phoenix? lol

If I want to party I can just do it right here in Vegas. Phoenix is like the last place I would go.

But yeah, if it were easier to get a room and everyone could be on property like the AVN summer show in Florida was...then I would drive down to Phoenix for a few days.

Just not gonna do it if I can't stay at the host hotel and everyone else isn't staying on property as well. That was the whole point of the Phoenix Forum because it made it a nice little networking show.
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I'm gunna bring a tent and camp on the big hill up behind the pool.
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Thanks Howard, I may not be able to make it , but its the thought that counts
No worries JFK I will take your spot
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Haven't gone in 2 years and I'm not going this year either.

The whole point of the Phoenix Forum was to be on property. If you can't do that, it kinda sucks.

Also the local authorities have started clamping down on the nudity, etc. so it's not as much fun as it used to be.

I live in Vegas. I see no reason to spend an entire half a day TRYING to get a room so I can drive down to Phoenix? lol

If I want to party I can just do it right here in Vegas. Phoenix is like the last place I would go.

But yeah, if it were easier to get a room and everyone could be on property like the AVN summer show in Florida was...then I would drive down to Phoenix for a few days.

Just not gonna do it if I can't stay at the host hotel and everyone else isn't staying on property as well. That was the whole point of the Phoenix Forum because it made it a nice little networking show.
I can validate Robbie's unique situation.
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