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Old 04-05-2013, 08:44 PM   #51
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I tried it once when I was 15yrs old. That was in 1985.

I didnt care for it, so I never touched it again.
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Old 04-05-2013, 08:45 PM   #52
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well I have about 12k-14k in sofas you?
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For some people. It takes away anxiety...others it will put you into full blown panic attack pass the fuck out thinking you are having a heart attack mode.
Yep yep yep! This is what it does to me. It's been a running joke for a while whenever I'm around it because someone will always make a reference to a Usenet thread I started in '96 titled something like "I smoked weed and I think I'm dying" and the thread got over 20,000 replies over a 10+ year period.
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well I have about 12k-14k in sofas you?
Bah!!!

I have $12k - $14k in change in the cushions of my couches...





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Weed affects people in different ways. For some it makes them feel good and relaxed, for others it makes them feel like shit.
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Sativas or Indicas If you get anxiety try a relaxant instead. You can smoke to get high or relax just depends what your smoking their chief.
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Weed is horrible. I don't do well with any drugs. Probably a good thing I could never be a drug addict. I don't do well with alcohol either as you all have seen.

A few years ago my son had some friends visiting from out of province. They smoked some weed and one of the guys got so fucked up we had to take him to the hospital. They said he had schitzoprenia brought on from smoking the weed. He spent a week in the hospital here then was sent by ambulance back home. It was really bad.
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Weed is horrible. I don't do well with any drugs. Probably a good thing I could never be a drug addict. I don't do well with alcohol either as you all have seen.

A few years ago my son had some friends visiting from out of province. They smoked some weed and one of the guys got so fucked up we had to take him to the hospital. They said he had schitzoprenia brought on from smoking the weed. He spent a week in the hospital here then was sent by ambulance back home. It was really bad.
I've become schizophrenic from smoking weed.


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Weed affects people in different ways. For some it makes them feel good and relaxed, for others it makes them feel like shit.
I think the best advice would be not to smoke if your life is in a shit place. It just amplifies your self doubts.

Most of my income is freelance, and I try not to smoke when I'm between jobs.
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Yep yep yep! This is what it does to me. It's been a running joke for a while whenever I'm around it because someone will always make a reference to a Usenet thread I started in '96 titled something like "I smoked weed and I think I'm dying" and the thread got over 20,000 replies over a 10+ year period.
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And ofcourse lets ignore the tons of traffic deaths caused by behind stoned as fuck behind the wheel.
Facts stoners aren't interested in.
Yeah yeah now your reply will be show me some stats and i won't be able to find them because i don't think they keep track of such a thing anywhere.
But anybody with common sense (that excludes most stoners ofcourse) knows that this must happen a lot. Just like people who drive drunk.
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And ofcourse lets ignore the tons of traffic deaths caused by behind stoned as fuck behind the wheel.

Facts stoners aren't interested in.

Yeah yeah now your reply will be show me some stats and i won't be able to find them because i don't think they keep track of such a thing anywhere.

But anybody with common sense (that excludes most stoners ofcourse) knows that this must happen a lot. Just like people who drive drunk.




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Yup, now we get 10 replies from stoners how driving with being totally fucked up is extremely safe.
It's always the same bs with this group of people.
The sad part is that if anybody should know how weed can fuck you up to the point where you can barely stand on your legs anymore, it's a stoner. Funny enough the same group who ignores this or actually denies it.

I was gonna type that it's like they live in some kind of fantasy world. Well, it's actually quite true when you think of it.

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I've heard that for years, driving while stoned is okay and all of that. I don't buy it. When I tried that shit, I had to work real hard to make it over to somewhere to piss. Heh.

The last few years I'm hearing that some places in socal are even giving roadside tests for weed and drugs now. Some kind of eye test.

One thing I will say, though, some of the tests they use are fucked up. They should always be forced to also do a blood test. Always. I say allow people to take that if the pft says they're dirty... then, if they test goes against the person make them pay for it. If not, let the jurisdiction pay for it.
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if u cant handle weed ... SIT DOWN and watch cartoon network !
Hell you'd be surprised what the fuck I can handle

Tornado half a mile away windows blowing out = I'm all cool
Tire blowout at over 80mph sounds like a shotgun blast = I'm all cool
Hurricane coming and nowhere near shelter = I'm all cool
Tire blowout at over 90mph everyone else is screaming = I'm all cool
First day at an all black school half everyonese size = I'm all cool
Someone is coming over to collect money I don't have = I'm all cool
Ducking pot shots = I'm all cool

Hit some weed = I'm scared like a little girl and think I'm maintaining but pretty sure everyone can tell and wants to kill me
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And ofcourse lets ignore the tons of traffic deaths caused by behind stoned as fuck behind the wheel.
Facts stoners aren't interested in.
Yeah yeah now your reply will be show me some stats and i won't be able to find them because i don't think they keep track of such a thing anywhere.
But anybody with common sense (that excludes most stoners ofcourse) knows that this must happen a lot. Just like people who drive drunk.

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a more accurate abstract of the study:::::::

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Risk analysis studies to investigate the contribution of drugs to accident causation are limited. We have used a method based on establishing the responsibility of a driver to investigate the involvement of drugs other than alcohol in 1052 fatally injured drivers. The proportion of drivers deemed to be responsible in a drug-free group were compared to drivers with target drugs found in their blood stream.

Drugs (including alcohol) were detected in 49% of the drivers. Alcohol was detected in 36% of the cases, whilst drugs were detected in 22%. 13% had only drugs detected. The remaining 9% of the population involved a combination of drugs and alcohol. The order of prevalence of drugs were marijuana (112 cases), amphetamines and related stimulants (35), benzodiazepines (34) and opiates (34).

Drivers in whom only opiates were detected had an odd's ratio of 2.4, whilst marijuana cases provided a relative risk of 0.6. Drivers in whom stimulants were detected gave an odd's ratio of 1.4 whilst benzodiazepines gave an odd's ratio of 1.0. By contrast the odd's ratio for alcohol was 6.8.

Drivers with higher than therapeutic concentrations detected represented 22 drivers (2.1%). Most of these drivers were found to be culpable. Multiple drug cases also tended to be culpable. The culpability rate in this group was 89% compared to 70% in drug-free drivers.

These data show that only a small proportion of impaired drivers are drug effected, the remainder being impaired by alcohol. The relative risk for psychoactive drugs is also not uniform, with marijuana use providing the least effect on risk, whilst opiate use seems to provide the largest increase in risk compared to the other drug groups studied.
http://casr.adelaide.edu.au/t95/paper/s16p6.html
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It was of some interest that cannabis tended to show a negative effect on relative risk when other drug groups showed an increase. This phenomenon has also been seen elsewhere [Terhune et al, 1992; Williams et al, 1985]. The most likley reason probably relates to the over compensation of marijuana-using drivers on their driving skills. Over compensation may be caused simply by slowing down and avoiding adverse driving situations. These observations do not seem to be related to whether delta-9-THC or 11-carboxy-THC are measured in blood [Terhune et al, 1992; Williams et al, 1985].
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Amazing what stoners will do to defend their drugs.
EVERY goddamn weed junkie out there knows that weed will totally fuck you up and not one of them has the guts to say driving while being stoned is completely stupid.

Nope, because weed is some kind of miracle drug and NOTHING bad can ever be caused by it. NOTHING.
If you talk with a stoner long enough he will get to the point where he will claim that driving while stoned actually is less dangerous than driving sober.

That kind of behaviour is just so fucking sad.

I can't stand stoners.

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I'm about as hardcore a stoner as you can get, and I don't smoke and drive.
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a search pulled up the study that pic references, so i posted the actual results of the study. maybe the researchers are stoners, who knows, but the results are published.
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I wasn't connecting with you on this until you mentioned watching the clock.

I didn't do anything at all until advanced years and then really just to find out what the fuss was about. Of course, I go thirty some years totally sober and then feel like I am being punished and have a horrible experience with anxiety and particularly time alteration. I am a control freak when it comes to my own mental skills and not being able to control my mind fully was really uncomfortable for me.

That time thing happened my first few times but not from the actual smoking but for other forms of ingestion. The first time was a gel cap and I put that down as one of the worst nights of my life. Second time it was from something with caramel involved. Eventually, I put together that I react really badly to delivery through oils type deliveries. I mean really badly.
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I have found, in my life, that driving under the influence of legal, over the counter allergy pills, is likely the most dangerous and impaired condition of all.
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I have found, in my life, that driving under the influence of legal, over the counter allergy pills, is likely the most dangerous and impaired condition of all.
I've found that driving around Niagara Falls during (asian) tourist season is the most dangerous.
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anything can be OK in moderation ... nothing that impairs you is OK to do and drive.... is it OK to get fucked up at home yes .. ok to get fucked up behind the wheel NO... it's very simple reallyI don't need or care to read stats on it
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I know...



Dirty F, with his inflammatory troll "Weed Junkie" rhetoric, is the only one claiming in this thread that cannabis users think that nothing bad can happen from using marijuana, or that many/most cannabis users smoke and drive while impaired by marijuana.

Most of the pro-pot crowd in this thread seem to sound quite rational and responsible.

Measuring the effects of marijuana on an individual is more difficult than measuring the clear impact of alcohol on motor skills, decision-making, etc., since cannabis impacts different people vastly differently (as this thread has indicated).

Further complicating the matter is the fact that cannabis can remain detectable long after it has been consumed. You can be shit-faced, fall down drunk one day, and the next day easily pass a test for alcohol, whereas if you consume even a moderate amount of cannabis, it can be detectable for a month or longer - for those of us who consume cannabis on a regular basis, it will show up on a drug test even if we are completely sober/unimpaired by cannabis.

Clearly some additional research and refinement in driving laws should accompany cannabis legalization.

As for myself, I am well aware of the negative aspects of smoking in general, so I try to educate my fellow stoners at every opportunity about safer methods for consuming cannabis, such as vaporization and edibles.

This thread is definitely more interesting/entertaining while you are high...



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It was just an educated guess at an approximation of the smell.
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I have found, in my life, that driving under the influence of legal, over the counter allergy pills, is likely the most dangerous and impaired condition of all.
Benydril (allergy pill) and nytol (sleeping pill) are the exact same thing. I take it all the time or I go into non stop sneazing fits. It makes you really lethargic which sucks cause its hard to work like that but I'm used to it.

I tried a prescribed steroid nasal spray and it worked great I loved it until I got the worst yeast infection ever from it. I had it in my mouth, throat, vaginal. I was off work for weeks with that.

Back to the benydril. The non drowsy shit like Claritin doesn't work for me.
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you can ALWAYS spot a weed smoker....their fucking car is filthy
Funny sterotype, but highly inaccurate.

Most of the people i know who smoke weed seem to go into a frenzy of activity; cleaning, gardening, etc, after they smoke.

Then again, I don't hang with Slackers. Their cars would be filthy whether they smoke weed or not.
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