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vdbucks · 10-27-2013, 12:15 AM

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Originally Posted by wpbulkeditor

So for heavens sake, lets stop debating? There will always be apple fanboys and pc fanboys. The product is as good as the person using it.

Exactly. May i add an analogy to that? Some people buy a BMW for the looks and status, others buy a car with basically the same "ingredients" made by BMW but with a different brand. It doesnt make the beamer owner stupid, or the b-brand owner smart. If they are both happy with their product isnt that whats important?

You are correct. And I never argued the point that one 'side' is better than the other. I simply presented the facts to those who think Macs are somehow magically superior to PC's when they have the exact same hardware inside. Some Mac owners cannot seem to accept that fact though, hence the "debate".

klinton · 10-27-2013, 12:55 AM

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Originally Posted by **********

Worst argument ever.

thx for pointing that out with way better argument

Why · 10-27-2013, 10:28 AM

i ordered a new macbook pro a couple days ago. honestly, as far as laptops go(which are much harder to build yourself then desktops) apple makes a very good product. a little expensive, yea, but so are high end Sony and Alienware laptops. You are not only buying a machine, you are buying into an echo system(OS), support, warranty, etc.

my main desktop machine runs windows 7, and honestly i feel a lot more productive on my mac, due to the way the OS is setup. which is why i opted to re-up on osx over windows. i can easily make up the cost difference, in productivity. i find that windows slows down and needs reinstalls and defragging(etc, etc) a lot more often then my mac. my macbook pro has lasted my four years now, without issue, and is still a pretty strong machine. no windows laptop ive owned compares, and ive had some very high end windows laptops in the past. as a developer, the very large developer community on OSX also makes for a lot of nice tools. as well as i can run a lot of unix commands on my mac, this makes computing/developing easier, unless of course i need to write code for windows.

$0.02

Evil1 · 10-27-2013, 03:39 PM

as a linux user: LOL at all you fuckups.

UniqueD · 10-28-2013, 03:54 AM

pimpmaster9000 · 10-28-2013, 05:17 AM

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Originally Posted by vdbucks

The Mac hardware is irrelevant. The components are all made by the same manufacturers that make PC parts.

Motherboards: Apple specific (Same way HP motherboards are) but last time i checked, made by FoxConn, who also makes PC motherboards. Same capacitors and components.
CPUs: Intel - Same exact CPU's found in Macs are found in PCs (or servers if using Xeon).
GPU: Intel/Nvidia/ATI - Same as above.
Ram - Same as above.
HDD/SSD -Same as above.

yes but apple slaps a high price and calls things "eye retina" and the hipsters get mommy and daddy to pay for it anyway...it does not matter that its the EXACT same shit

RandyRandy · 10-28-2013, 05:56 AM

[QUOTE=American Psycho;19848654]

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Originally Posted by kane

Exactly.
people who build computers underestimate just how difficult it is for somebody who has no clue what even a GB is.
Saying macs are expensive and you could build a chesper pc is like saying a Ferrari is expensive I could just build a fast car myself for less.

sure maybe that guy who is an expert mechanic can build a car and make it as fast as a Ferrari but the chances are it's not going to be as visually pleasing and it's going to take him a lot of time which most normal people who have money just go by the Ferrari which also happens to come with a logo saying Ferrari or a repair shop they can drop off repairs or support they call for help.

I know I can build PCs for a little bit cheaper but at the end of the day if I have to have my staff to do it it's just easier to buy a mac.

That said if I need a really fast machine im building a pc as a mac would cost a lot amd that savimg of $6k is worth it but not a few hundred on $3k machine.

But yea its also preferance .....but oh year in can run windows on my macs too when I need both os which I often do.

Its hard for any sane person to deny that macs are expemsive but its also hard to deny they are the best out of the Box computer on the market.

Not really. An expert car mechanic cannot realistically build a Ferrarai quality car from scratch - ok maybe he can, but it would be a years long project. On the other hand I'm no computer wiz (or any type of other wiz for that matter) and I can build out a great PC in a couple of hours. Picked up an i7 processor, high-end video card, motherbard, 16gb ram, dual drives (ssd and 1T hd), case, 23in flat panel and Windows 8 OEM for just under $1,100 - after rebates at MicroCenter in Newark. I have a great machine that burns thru video editing - and again - I'm no computer wiz. Just followed the instructions and watched a couple of YouTube videos.

CIVMatt · 10-28-2013, 06:02 AM

I have a 15" Macbook Pro Retina with 16g ram & 1g video ram and it's hands down the best computer I've ever owned and blows away any top shelf PC I've ever had.

vdbucks · 10-28-2013, 06:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Evil1

as a linux user: LOL at all you fuckups.

As an OS X (Unix, Linux' daddy) on a PC user: Got Photoshop? Premiere Pro?

:P

vdbucks · 10-28-2013, 06:23 AM

[QUOTE=RandyRandy;19850478]

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Originally Posted by American Psycho

Not really. An expert car mechanic cannot realistically build a Ferrarai quality car from scratch - ok maybe he can, but it would be a years long project. On the other hand I'm no computer wiz (or any type of other wiz for that matter) and I can build out a great PC in a couple of hours. Picked up an i7 processor, high-end video card, motherbard, 16gb ram, dual drives (ssd and 1T hd), case, 23in flat panel and Windows 8 OEM for just under $1,100 - after rebates at MicroCenter in Newark. I have a great machine that burns thru video editing - and again - I'm no computer wiz. Just followed the instructions and watched a couple of YouTube videos.

Ding ding ding.

Some people act like "building your own computer" means designing the motherboard and shit, lol. Some people are just ignorant I guess...

Brad Mitchell · 10-28-2013, 07:32 AM

I think I'm about ready to make the switch. Might as well just go all the way and synchronize my digital life. If not a new Apple, it's tempting to go back to my Sony Vaio netbook that only weighs 2.5lbs.

Does anyone know if I can get a dual HDMI output from a a MacBook in 2440x resolution or better? 30 inch monitors.

Brad

Why · 10-28-2013, 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Brad Mitchell

I think I'm about ready to make the switch. Might as well just go all the way and synchronize my digital life. If not a new Apple, it's tempting to go back to my Sony Vaio netbook that only weighs 2.5lbs.

Does anyone know if I can get a dual HDMI output from a a MacBook in 2440x resolution or better? 30 inch monitors.

Brad

i have twin 27s and it works just fine. for the older macbooks(2009ish) you need a Matroc DualHead2Go - DP edition. not sure if its needed on the new version or if osx can push that on its own. will update you next week when my new one gets here and i cross that bridge... but yes, its possible, one way or another.

BlazeMaker · 11-07-2013, 09:29 AM

I have a hackingtosh equivalent in specs to a Macbook pro 15", except it has better components for half the cost. It has never failed in 2 years of constant use Win 7 and OSX. OSX is used to keep customers who are Mac fans happy. There is no real advantage at all. The end product is the same no matter what platform it was produced on.
One of the guys I work with has a Macbook pro used mainly for audio. Totally crashed twice (every 12 months) and needed hard drive replaced each time.

Anyone who thinks Macs are superior in either hardware or software are fooling themselves. Macs are expensive fashion accessories.

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BlazeMaker Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 62	I have a hackingtosh equivalent in specs to a Macbook pro 15", except it has better components for half the cost. It has never failed in 2 years of constant use Win 7 and OSX. OSX is used to keep customers who are Mac fans happy. There is no real advantage at all. The end product is the same no matter what platform it was produced on. One of the guys I work with has a Macbook pro used mainly for audio. Totally crashed twice (every 12 months) and needed hard drive replaced each time. Anyone who thinks Macs are superior in either hardware or software are fooling themselves. Macs are expensive fashion accessories. __________________ Custom video content creation in HD, 4K stereoscopic 3D

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Why MFBA Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: PNW Posts: 7,230	i ordered a new macbook pro a couple days ago. honestly, as far as laptops go(which are much harder to build yourself then desktops) apple makes a very good product. a little expensive, yea, but so are high end Sony and Alienware laptops. You are not only buying a machine, you are buying into an echo system(OS), support, warranty, etc. my main desktop machine runs windows 7, and honestly i feel a lot more productive on my mac, due to the way the OS is setup. which is why i opted to re-up on osx over windows. i can easily make up the cost difference, in productivity. i find that windows slows down and needs reinstalls and defragging(etc, etc) a lot more often then my mac. my macbook pro has lasted my four years now, without issue, and is still a pretty strong machine. no windows laptop ive owned compares, and ive had some very high end windows laptops in the past. as a developer, the very large developer community on OSX also makes for a lot of nice tools. as well as i can run a lot of unix commands on my mac, this makes computing/developing easier, unless of course i need to write code for windows. $0.02

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