Welcome to the GoFuckYourself.com - Adult Webmaster Forum forums.

You are currently viewing our boards as a guest which gives you limited access to view most discussions and access our other features. By joining our free community you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features. Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free so please, join our community today!

If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact us.

Post New Thread Reply

Register GFY Rules Calendar
Go Back   GoFuckYourself.com - Adult Webmaster Forum > >
Discuss what's fucking going on, and which programs are best and worst. One-time "program" announcements from "established" webmasters are allowed.

 
Thread Tools
Old 01-26-2014, 04:04 PM   #51
TheSquealer
BANNED
 
TheSquealer's Avatar
 
Industry Role:
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: In Your Head
Posts: 25,153
50 witless turds.

Quote:
Originally Posted by BFT3K View Post
Not grammatically, as "you're" is a contraction.

I laugh at you
Oh, my bad. For some reason I thought you were at least 18 years old. I see now that I was mistaken.
__________________
.
Yes, fewer illegal immigrants working equates to more job opportunities for American citizens.

Rochard

Last edited by TheSquealer; 01-26-2014 at 04:07 PM..
TheSquealer is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 01-26-2014, 04:09 PM   #52
Minte
Babemeister
 
Industry Role:
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: Madison
Posts: 7,081
Quote:
Originally Posted by BFT3K View Post
Please, pass it along.

Americans hate references to the American Revolution.

Americans don't but Homeland does.
__________________
You might not be as anonymous as you think you are.
Minte is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 01-26-2014, 04:14 PM   #53
Minte
Babemeister
 
Industry Role:
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: Madison
Posts: 7,081
Quote:
Originally Posted by kane View Post
What kind of business was in that building before? I wonder if the guy was paranoid or if he had done some things to piss some people off.
It was a large global manufacturing company that had 2 unions. Every other year there was a strike. Once and a while it got pretty angry. One year the company hired scabs to fill in and that didn't go real well. .
__________________
You might not be as anonymous as you think you are.
Minte is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 01-26-2014, 04:20 PM   #54
JFK
FUBAR the ORIGINATOR
 
JFK's Avatar
 
Industry Role:
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: FUBARLAND
Posts: 67,374
Quote:
Originally Posted by mineistaken View Post
This is GFY...
Thanks for noticing
__________________

FUBAR Webmasters - The FUBAR Times - FUBAR Webmasters Mobile - FUBARTV.XXX
For promo opps contact jfk at fubarwebmasters dot com
JFK is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 01-26-2014, 05:23 PM   #55
kane
Too lazy to set a custom title
 
kane's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: portland, OR
Posts: 20,684
Quote:
Originally Posted by Minte View Post
It was a large global manufacturing company that had 2 unions. Every other year there was a strike. Once and a while it got pretty angry. One year the company hired scabs to fill in and that didn't go real well. .
I could see how that kind of situation might have someone in fear. Union things, especially strikes where scabs get involved can get heated and people sometimes do irrational things.
kane is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 01-26-2014, 06:04 PM   #56
BlackCrayon
Too lazy to set a custom title
 
BlackCrayon's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Ottawa
Posts: 19,631
Quote:
Originally Posted by crucifissio View Post
people are not equal...life is not fair...but its not the rich mans fault this was my point...if you got dealt a bad pack of cards you are gonna have to work harder

I'm a 3rd world guy I know all about it ...retiring next year in my early early 40s despite all the odds...

people are not equal...some people will be poor no matter what and some will be rich no matter what...
you said they should be blaming their laziness rather than rich people. i just disagreed that it was so simple that people were just lazy. if you are living in the third world you could save and retire early making money online that would just be scraping by or an ok living for those of us in the first world. you might not be viewed as successful at all. that doesn't mean you didn't work your ass off for it just the same as some broke ass living in the projects from generations of welfare who worked their ass off just to become middle classs. they get no pats on the back, and are still viewed as losers and failures by as 12clicks so lovingly refers to them their "betters".
__________________
you don't know you're wearing a leash if you sit by the peg all day..

Last edited by BlackCrayon; 01-26-2014 at 06:06 PM..
BlackCrayon is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 01-26-2014, 06:08 PM   #57
mineistaken
See signature :)
 
mineistaken's Avatar
 
Industry Role:
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: ICQ 363 097 773
Posts: 29,656
Quote:
Originally Posted by BlackCrayon View Post
you said they should be blaming their laziness rather than rich people.
The fact that its not ONLY laziness (although environment reasons do not apply even to majority poor people) does not change the fact that he was mostly right.

In most cases its only laziness.
In some cases its laziness + environment reasons you mentioned.

And in none cases its rich people.
mineistaken is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 01-26-2014, 06:16 PM   #58
12clicks
Too lazy to set a custom title
 
12clicks's Avatar
 
Industry Role:
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: God's right hand
Posts: 19,786
Quote:
Originally Posted by BlackCrayon View Post
you said they should be blaming their laziness rather than rich people. i just disagreed that it was so simple that people were just lazy. if you are living in the third world you could save and retire early making money online that would just be scraping by or an ok living for those of us in the first world. you might not be viewed as successful at all. that doesn't mean you didn't work your ass off for it just the same as some broke ass living in the projects from generations of welfare who worked their ass off just to become middle classs. they get no pats on the back, and are still viewed as losers and failures by as 12clicks so lovingly refers to them their "betters".
I was born into lower middle class.
Now I'm 1%
I don't care what your excuses are. You simply didn't work as hard as I did.
Period.
12clicks is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 01-26-2014, 07:05 PM   #59
Robbie
Leaner, Meaner, Faster
 
Robbie's Avatar
 
Industry Role:
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Vegas
Posts: 20,959
Quote:
Originally Posted by crockett View Post
It's funny that it's not hate to take from the poor, but it's hate if you take from the rich.
Who in the hell "takes" anything from the poor?

LO-motherfucking-L!

They are POOR. By definition they don't have anything to take.

Dude, your argument is so ridiculous. What in your life happened to make you analyze things this way? Maybe you just need to get out more and interact with people like I do. Your theories would change REAL quick.
__________________
-Robbie
ClaudiaMarie.Com
Robbie is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 01-27-2014, 02:28 AM   #60
slapass
Too lazy to set a custom title
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Earth
Posts: 14,622
I think it is crazy to think that we would have the same rich people and the same poor people if the US were to have changed rules with say Brazil or Congo. Certain environments reward certain behavior. Some environments are easier to excel in. There is a luck element to success. You have to make the money but then you have to keep it. Neither of these are as easy as they seem.
slapass is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 01-27-2014, 04:44 AM   #61
pimpmaster9000
Too lazy to set a custom title
 
pimpmaster9000's Avatar
 
Industry Role:
Join Date: Dec 2011
Posts: 26,732
Quote:
Originally Posted by BlackCrayon View Post
you said they should be blaming their laziness rather than rich people. i just disagreed that it was so simple that people were just lazy. if you are living in the third world you could save and retire early making money online that would just be scraping by or an ok living for those of us in the first world. you might not be viewed as successful at all. that doesn't mean you didn't work your ass off for it just the same as some broke ass living in the projects from generations of welfare who worked their ass off just to become middle classs. they get no pats on the back, and are still viewed as losers and failures by as 12clicks so lovingly refers to them their "betters".
but it IS that simple...you got dealt a bad pack of cards, there is no such thing as a re-deal, you will have to work harder than, say, the son of the prince of Brunei...

has nothing to do with 1st world or 3rd world...sure 1st world standards are better but your economy is 100x better...you would have to be a complete moron not to make it in your war free/ no sacntions/ tons of money economy...
pimpmaster9000 is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 01-27-2014, 07:11 AM   #62
BlackCrayon
Too lazy to set a custom title
 
BlackCrayon's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Ottawa
Posts: 19,631
Quote:
Originally Posted by crucifissio View Post
but it IS that simple...you got dealt a bad pack of cards, there is no such thing as a re-deal, you will have to work harder than, say, the son of the prince of Brunei...

has nothing to do with 1st world or 3rd world...sure 1st world standards are better but your economy is 100x better...you would have to be a complete moron not to make it in your war free/ no sacntions/ tons of money economy...
if you are making money online you are dealing with the same economy that we all are but your living expenses are much much lower. its much cheaper to retire in the third world than the first.

as for your pack of cards theory, i can agree but shouldn't success be evaluated more based on where you started rather than where you end up? for someone who started in the gutter and ended up middle class, that is a success story for them but not to richie rich who may of started with connections, start up money and paid education. to him success is on a much higher level but also easier to achieve. look at someone privileged like george bush jr. ran multiple businesses into the ground, still got to live the good life and then became president. if he had been born into a one room shack in the swamps of louisiana he'd probably still be there.
__________________
you don't know you're wearing a leash if you sit by the peg all day..

Last edited by BlackCrayon; 01-27-2014 at 07:15 AM..
BlackCrayon is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 01-27-2014, 07:16 AM   #63
BlackCrayon
Too lazy to set a custom title
 
BlackCrayon's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Ottawa
Posts: 19,631
Quote:
Originally Posted by 12clicks View Post
I was born into lower middle class.
Now I'm 1%
I don't care what your excuses are. You simply didn't work as hard as I did.
Period.
you worked smart more than you worked hard and exploited an opportunity. someone who works in the coal mines works harder than both of us but gets nothing for it.
__________________
you don't know you're wearing a leash if you sit by the peg all day..

Last edited by BlackCrayon; 01-27-2014 at 07:19 AM..
BlackCrayon is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 01-27-2014, 07:48 AM   #64
arock10
Confirmed User
 
arock10's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 6,218
So basically the hardest working person in the world is the wealthiest. The 85 richest people in the world work harder then the combined efforts of 3.5 billion people. That's some long nights at work

Or maybe poor doesn't equal lazy and hard working doesn't equal rich and you are all delusional and full of yourselves.
__________________
Sup
arock10 is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 01-27-2014, 08:07 AM   #65
tony286
lurker
 
tony286's Avatar
 
Industry Role:
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: atlanta
Posts: 57,021
Quote:
Originally Posted by arock10 View Post
So basically the hardest working person in the world is the wealthiest. The 85 richest people in the world work harder then the combined efforts of 3.5 billion people. That's some long nights at work

Or maybe poor doesn't equal lazy and hard working doesn't equal rich and you are all delusional and full of yourselves.
bingo
tony286 is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 01-27-2014, 08:24 AM   #66
Robbie
Leaner, Meaner, Faster
 
Robbie's Avatar
 
Industry Role:
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Vegas
Posts: 20,959
Quote:
Originally Posted by arock10 View Post
So basically the hardest working person in the world is the wealthiest. The 85 richest people in the world work harder then the combined efforts of 3.5 billion people. That's some long nights at work

Or maybe poor doesn't equal lazy and hard working doesn't equal rich and you are all delusional and full of yourselves.
Or maybe some people are smarter and more ambitious than other people. And they actively seek out opportunity and don't blow it when the chance comes their way.

There isn't and delusion to that. I've seen it with my own two eyes as I've passed other people who had even MORE opportunity than I did. While they blew opportunities and wasted time...it was easy to walk right past them in the game of life simply by busting ass and being smarter.
__________________
-Robbie
ClaudiaMarie.Com
Robbie is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 01-27-2014, 08:38 AM   #67
Barefootsies
Choice is an Illusion
 
Barefootsies's Avatar
 
Industry Role:
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Land of Obama
Posts: 42,635
:2cents

Quote:
Originally Posted by Robbie View Post
Or maybe some people are smarter and more ambitious than other people. And they actively seek out opportunity and don't blow it when the chance comes their way.

There isn't and delusion to that. I've seen it with my own two eyes as I've passed other people who had even MORE opportunity than I did. While they blew opportunities and wasted time...it was easy to walk right past them in the game of life simply by busting ass and being smarter.
bingo
__________________
Should You Email Your Members?

Link1 | Link2 | Link3

Enough Said.

"Would you rather live like a king for a year or like a prince forever?"
Barefootsies is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 01-27-2014, 08:41 AM   #68
Robbie
Leaner, Meaner, Faster
 
Robbie's Avatar
 
Industry Role:
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Vegas
Posts: 20,959
Shit, just proofread what I wrote.

The sentence "There isn't AND delusion to that" should have said: "There isn't ANY delusion to that"
__________________
-Robbie
ClaudiaMarie.Com
Robbie is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 01-27-2014, 08:50 AM   #69
12clicks
Too lazy to set a custom title
 
12clicks's Avatar
 
Industry Role:
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: God's right hand
Posts: 19,786
Quote:
Originally Posted by BlackCrayon View Post
you worked smart more than you worked hard and exploited an opportunity. someone who works in the coal mines works harder than both of us but gets nothing for it.
sorry dopey, I spent 15 years as a roofer (and then worked another job at night)
I worked way harder than a coal miner and certainly harder than you.


You have no standing discussing hard work and what its benefits are.
12clicks is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 01-27-2014, 08:51 AM   #70
12clicks
Too lazy to set a custom title
 
12clicks's Avatar
 
Industry Role:
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: God's right hand
Posts: 19,786
Quote:
Originally Posted by arock10 View Post
So basically the hardest working person in the world is the wealthiest. The 85 richest people in the world work harder then the combined efforts of 3.5 billion people. That's some long nights at work

Or maybe poor doesn't equal lazy and hard working doesn't equal rich and you are all delusional and full of yourselves.
you'll always have an excuse for your failure. Successful people don't make excuses, they simply keep going.
12clicks is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 01-27-2014, 08:58 AM   #71
_Richard_
Too lazy to set a custom title
 
_Richard_'s Avatar
 
Industry Role:
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Earth
Posts: 30,989
Quote:
Originally Posted by BFT3K View Post
Not grammatically, as "you're" is a contraction.

I laugh at you
_Richard_ is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 01-27-2014, 09:15 AM   #72
Jel
Confirmed User
 
Jel's Avatar
 
Industry Role:
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 6,904
gov't (your mob as well us in the UK) are doing a sterling job, and I mean fucking outstanding job, of staving off scrutiny/pressure/anger/frustration from where it should be directed. It's genius.

get the public angry at the people who the gov't through their own decisions allow 'insert scenario here' to happen, whether it's colossal tax avoidance, immigration, housing, comparing brave soldiers and angelic nurses to football pros, and so on and so on.
Jel is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 01-27-2014, 09:17 AM   #73
arock10
Confirmed User
 
arock10's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 6,218
Quote:
Originally Posted by 12clicks View Post
you'll always have an excuse for your failure. Successful people don't make excuses, they simply keep going.
You are by far the most delusional one of them all. You worked as a roofer during the day and another job at night.

Why did you switch to running porn sites, cause clearly the roofing job + other job was waaay harder work then adding xsales going to flash game websites....
__________________
Sup
arock10 is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 01-27-2014, 09:19 AM   #74
BlackCrayon
Too lazy to set a custom title
 
BlackCrayon's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Ottawa
Posts: 19,631
Quote:
Originally Posted by 12clicks View Post
sorry dopey, I spent 15 years as a roofer (and then worked another job at night)
I worked way harder than a coal miner and certainly harder than you.


You have no standing discussing hard work and what its benefits are.
I apologize for not knowing your life story. I only know (some) of what you have done online. I doubt being a roofer for 15 had anything to do with your success online.
__________________
you don't know you're wearing a leash if you sit by the peg all day..
BlackCrayon is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 01-27-2014, 09:34 AM   #75
AsianDivaGirlsWebDude
Purveyor, Fine Asian Porn
 
AsianDivaGirlsWebDude's Avatar
 
Industry Role:
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: San Francisco Bay Area
Posts: 38,323


Quote:
If you believe that poverty is the domain of the comfortably poor, black, unemployed, unmotivated and uneducated among us, you have been sadly misled. Prepare to be astonished by numbers that tell a very different story.

In 2010 the Census Bureau reported that 1 in 6 Americans (15 percent) are poor, a rate that was held steady in 2011.

Even these statistics disguise the real poverty numbers. A sampling of the existing poverty thresholds - boundaries separating the officially "poor" from the "non-poor" - are as follows: $11,704 for one-person households where the adult is under 65; $10,788 for those where the adult is over 65; $15,504 for households with one adult and a child; $18,106 for two adults and one child; $22,811 for two adults and two children; $30,056 for two adults and 4 children.

1. The Bootstrap Myth

Negative assertions about the poor are in part a product of the American bootstrap myth:

Anyone who works hard enough in America will have a great life. And if you don't have a great life, then you lack the will, integrity or intelligence to succeed. These kinds of concepts are what the late Australian philosopher Val Plumwood called "conceptual weapons." They work together to structure a system of thought that distorts, oversimplifies and ultimately fosters ignorance about, and shame amongst, oppressed groups of people.

2. The Poor Are Unemployed

The bootstrap myth works together with the stereotype that all poor people are unemployed. This thinking gives rise to the conclusion that the best way to address poverty is to get everyone a job. But these fallacious assertions gloss over the glaring fact that many poor people are working.

The Census reported that, in 2010, 7 percent of those aged 16 and older who worked some or all of the year were in poverty. And the Department of Agriculture reported that 30 percent of households receiving food assistance had earnings in 2010; 41 percent of food aid beneficiaries lived in a household with earnings from a job. Nearly a quarter - 21.8 percent - of non-elderly adult food stamp recipients were employed.

Of course none of this is surprising to those who know from experience what it means to work for $8 an hour. Working for 40 hours a week at that rate yields a $17,000 annual salary. Increasingly these poverty-level-wage jobs (retail, fast-food, etc.) are the most abundantly available to Americans. But with so many people out of work, even those jobs are hard to come by. And just as being poor is a source of shame for many Americans, so is being out of work, or working a low-end, thus devalued, job.

Who on earth doesn't know that many working people are poor precisely because of poverty-level wages from a job? In the January 23, 2012 Republican primary debate in Tampa, Florida, Mitt Romney touted his work creating "middle-income" jobs through his companies, like Sports Authority and Staples.

We helped start Staples, for instance. It employs 90,000 people. These are middle-income people. There are entry-level jobs, too. I'm proud of the fact that we helped people around the country - Bright Horizons children centers, the Sports Authority, Steel Dynamics, a new steel company. These employ people, middle-income people.

In a September interview, Mitt Romney responded to ABC News host George Stephanopoulos's question, "Is $100,000 middle income," with the reply: "No, middle income is $200,000 to $250,000 or less."

Putting these assertions together, one must ask: How many workers at Sports Authority and Staples are actually earning more than $100,000, let alone $200,000 to $250,000?

The reality, as so many retail workers know all too well, is that the majority of employees at these companies earn poverty-level wages, and only a relative few climb into the ranks of management and even begin to approach this mythical "middle-income" status.

Some will say Romney's ignorance about the poor is unique. Think again: On January 5, 2012, then-Republican presidential candidate Newt Gingrich blended racist and classist stereotyping, when he told an audience that he believes "the African-American community should demand paychecks and not be satisfied with food stamps."

A few days earlier, on January 1, rival candidate, Rick Santorum had said that he did not "want to make black people's lives better by giving them somebody else's money; I want to give them the opportunity to go out and earn the money. And provide for themselves and their families." Both of these men's statements contain the logical implication that those receiving food assistance are not working.

3. Poor (i.e. lazy, uneducated etc.) Equals Black

You'll notice that Gingrich and Santorum exclusively concentrate on the black community's reception of food assistance. This not-so-subtle message is that black people are getting by on white America's dime. But the fact of the matter is that about 1 in 7 Americans are receiving food assistance, and most of them are white: 35.7 percent of head of households receiving food aid are white, 22 percent are African-American, and 10 percent are Hispanic.

This shows how racist and classist ideologies work together. Black and other people of color continue to be used as a symbol of impoverishment and all of its wretchedness: lazy, selfish, crude, ignorant, animalistic and so forth. Ben Adler writes that:

Veteran South Carolina politicos readily agree, off the record of course, that Gingrich is intentionally tapping into this long vein of racial animosity. In the years since the Civil Rights Act, white South Carolinians may have largely ceased pining for the days of segregated water fountains. And anyway no politician can call for returning to them. But they often resent African-Americans and social welfare programs that they view through a racial lens.

When politicians start declaring that they don't want to give black people welfare checks, but rather want to put them to work, poor whites have a decision to make: Challenge the lie that poor people are all lazy and not working, or direct their anger and frustration with their own conditions, all of the shame it brings them, at black people. Too often the latter is chosen.

This is "horizontal hostility," when oppressed groups turn on other disadvantaged groups rather than address the root causes of inequality. But these interlocking systems of inequality don't just hurt people of color. They also undermine the interests of poor conservative whites. When dominant culture promotes stereotypes that degrade the poor, it creates a rush to the exits of self-identifying as poor. This "internalized oppression" prevents the unification of the poor to realize common claims to dignity despite economic impoverishment.

By identifying poverty with people of color, the powerful manipulate those poor whites who are either outright racists or who unconsciously fear identification with the stereotyped character of non-whites. Though aimed at people of color, the thinking that suggests the poor lack respectable work ethic and virtuous moral character becomes a conceptual lever that functions to induce shame that makes the poor easier to manipulate.[12] This is why dominant culture works so hard to identify scapegoats (black people, undocumented workers, feminists, LGBTQ folks) to channel anger and self-hatred.
Cont'd...



ADG
AsianDivaGirlsWebDude is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 01-27-2014, 09:40 AM   #76
TheSquealer
BANNED
 
TheSquealer's Avatar
 
Industry Role:
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: In Your Head
Posts: 25,153
You guys crack me up. There is a great reason none of you are coaches.

If you had a pro football team to manage, all we'd hear is:

1) the field is not fair
2) the rules are not fair
3) the uniforms are not fair
4) the shoes are not fair
5) the stadium is not fair
6) the fans aren't fair
7) budgets aren't fair
8) losing is not our fault
9) keeping score is not fair

etc etc etc etc etc.

In the meantime, those great coaches on other teams will still be there, wondering what the fuck you are talking about as they work diligently to bring the best out of each and every player... and choosing players who want to be champions... that have a great work ethic, that are great team players and that all want to win.

They will work harder.
They will work longer.
They will sacrifice more.
They will play harder to win.

They will beat you every single time because they understand that difference between success and failure lies primarily about how bad you want it and how hard you are going to work for it.
__________________
.
Yes, fewer illegal immigrants working equates to more job opportunities for American citizens.

Rochard
TheSquealer is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 01-27-2014, 09:48 AM   #77
arock10
Confirmed User
 
arock10's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 6,218
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheSquealer View Post
You guys crack me up. There is a great reason none of you are coaches.

If you had a pro football team to manage, all we'd hear is:

1) the field is not fair
2) the rules are not fair
3) the uniforms are not fair
4) the shoes are not fair
5) the stadium is not fair
6) the fans aren't fair
7) budgets aren't fair
8) losing is not our fault
9) keeping score is not fair

etc etc etc etc etc.

In the meantime, those great coaches on other teams will still be there, wondering what the fuck you are talking about as they work diligently to bring the best out of each and every player... and choosing players who want to be champions... that have a great work ethic, that are great team players and that all want to win.

They will work harder.
They will work longer.
They will sacrifice more.
They will play harder to win.

They will beat you every single time because they understand that difference between success and failure lies primarily about how bad you want it and how hard you are going to work for it.
Ok so if I fielded a team of 10 year olds that was the hardest working team of football players (18hrs a day of practice everyday) led by the best coach there is, they would beat a top nfl team that only practices 8 hrs a day?

Cause hard work automatically means you are the best. Right coach?
__________________
Sup
arock10 is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 01-27-2014, 09:51 AM   #78
TheSquealer
BANNED
 
TheSquealer's Avatar
 
Industry Role:
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: In Your Head
Posts: 25,153
Quote:
Originally Posted by arock10 View Post
Ok so if I fielded a team of 10 year olds that was the hardest working team of football players (18hrs a day of practice everyday) led by the best coach there is, they would beat a top nfl team that only practices 8 hrs a day?

Cause hard work automatically means you are the best. Right coach?
We're not talking about 10 year olds. We're talking about grown ass men acting like 10 year olds by droning on and on about how everything is someone else's fault and NOTHING is their own.
__________________
.
Yes, fewer illegal immigrants working equates to more job opportunities for American citizens.

Rochard
TheSquealer is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 01-27-2014, 09:53 AM   #79
Robbie
Leaner, Meaner, Faster
 
Robbie's Avatar
 
Industry Role:
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Vegas
Posts: 20,959
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jel View Post
gov't (your mob as well us in the UK) are doing a sterling job, and I mean fucking outstanding job, of staving off scrutiny/pressure/anger/frustration from where it should be directed. It's genius.

get the public angry at the people who the gov't through their own decisions allow 'insert scenario here' to happen, whether it's colossal tax avoidance, immigration, housing, comparing brave soldiers and angelic nurses to football pros, and so on and so on.
QFT. I am shocked that more people don't realize WHO is really fucking things up and have been for decades: The Govt.
__________________
-Robbie
ClaudiaMarie.Com
Robbie is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 01-27-2014, 09:56 AM   #80
arock10
Confirmed User
 
arock10's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 6,218
Quote:
Originally Posted by Robbie View Post
QFT. I am shocked that more people don't realize WHO is really fucking things up and have been for decades: The Govt.
The government that is run by private money in the form of lobbyists and unlimited political contributions...

So is it the government or the private corporations and wealthy individuals that want you to think its the government's fault ;)
__________________
Sup
arock10 is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 01-27-2014, 09:57 AM   #81
TheSquealer
BANNED
 
TheSquealer's Avatar
 
Industry Role:
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: In Your Head
Posts: 25,153
I've done nothing but sacrifice in my life for the things I wanted. I was working 16 hrs a day, 7 days a week for a long time. When I was finally drawing mid 7 figures a year as a result of that very hard work, suddenly people who weren't willing to dedicate themselves and sacrifice were acting like I owed them, like I was just lucky and like I had little to do with my own success.

That's a real shame.

When I was a child, success was admired. Success was something to aspire to. Now it's just excuses and blame.... And "of course, he cheated"

You guys would never tell your child everyday "you can't succeed and you can't be what you want" but you have zero qualms about broadcasting that message, loud and clear, 24/7 to the rest of society and it's obviously a corrosive and destructive thing to do and hurts everyone,

Last edited by TheSquealer; 01-27-2014 at 09:58 AM..
TheSquealer is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 01-27-2014, 09:58 AM   #82
12clicks
Too lazy to set a custom title
 
12clicks's Avatar
 
Industry Role:
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: God's right hand
Posts: 19,786
Quote:
Originally Posted by BlackCrayon View Post
I apologize for not knowing your life story. I only know (some) of what you have done online. I doubt being a roofer for 15 had anything to do with your success online.
My roofing biz was successful too
12clicks is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 01-27-2014, 09:58 AM   #83
dyna mo
The People's Post
 
dyna mo's Avatar
 
Industry Role:
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: invisible 7-11
Posts: 64,785
Quote:
Originally Posted by arock10 View Post
So basically the hardest working person in the world is the wealthiest. The 85 richest people in the world work harder then the combined efforts of 3.5 billion people. That's some long nights at work

Or maybe poor doesn't equal lazy and hard working doesn't equal rich and you are all delusional and full of yourselves.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Robbie View Post
Or maybe some people are smarter and more ambitious than other people. And they actively seek out opportunity and don't blow it when the chance comes their way.

There isn't and delusion to that. I've seen it with my own two eyes as I've passed other people who had even MORE opportunity than I did. While they blew opportunities and wasted time...it was easy to walk right past them in the game of life simply by busting ass and being smarter.

He does have a point, 4 of the wealthiest on that list are Waltons. They inherited their wealth.

Also, luck play a part in many stories of success.
dyna mo is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 01-27-2014, 09:58 AM   #84
BFT3K
Too lazy to set a custom title
 
BFT3K's Avatar
 
Industry Role:
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Narnia
Posts: 10,764
Here in the US In the 1950s and 1960s it generally required one worker (usually the Dad) to work one 40 hour job, to buy a house and a car, pay all the bills, put the kids through school, and retire, often with a pension.

Two of my uncles were barbers, right off the boat, and both purchased 2 family homes, for example.

If you don't think that the "American Dream" is dead, you are not facing reality.
BFT3K is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 01-27-2014, 09:59 AM   #85
woj
<&(©¿©)&>
 
woj's Avatar
 
Industry Role:
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Chicago
Posts: 47,882
Quote:
Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude View Post

Cont'd...



ADG
"If you believe that poverty is the domain of the comfortably poor, black, unemployed, unmotivated and uneducated among us, you have been sadly misled. Prepare to be astonished by numbers that tell a very different story.

In 2010 the Census Bureau reported that 1 in 6 Americans (15 percent) are poor, a rate that was held steady in 2011. "

they make it sound like they worked out something brilliant.... but really it's a pointless, captain obvious statement... when looking at statistics, 1 in 6 of anything will fit into some undesirable group... (for example: 1 in 6 of Americans are short)

yea, I'm really "astonished" that 1/6 fall into arbitrarily picked income group...
__________________
Custom Software Development, email: woj#at#wojfun#.#com to discuss details or skype: wojl2000 or gchat: wojfun or telegram: wojl2000
Affiliate program tools: Hosted Galleries Manager Banner Manager Video Manager
Wordpress Affiliate Plugin Pic/Movie of the Day Fansign Generator Zip Manager
woj is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 01-27-2014, 09:59 AM   #86
12clicks
Too lazy to set a custom title
 
12clicks's Avatar
 
Industry Role:
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: God's right hand
Posts: 19,786
Quote:
Originally Posted by arock10 View Post
You are by far the most delusional one of them all. You worked as a roofer during the day and another job at night.

Why did you switch to running porn sites, cause clearly the roofing job + other job was waaay harder work then adding xsales going to flash game websites....
Odd, you'd think if my business was so easy, more of you at the bottom could do it
12clicks is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 01-27-2014, 10:01 AM   #87
_Richard_
Too lazy to set a custom title
 
_Richard_'s Avatar
 
Industry Role:
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Earth
Posts: 30,989
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheSquealer View Post
I've done nothing but sacrifice in my life for the things I wanted. I was working 16 hrs a day, 7 days a week for a long time. When I was finally drawing mid 7 figures a year as a result of that very hard work, suddenly people who weren't willing to dedicate themselves and sacrifice were acting like I owed them, like I was just lucky and like I had little to do with my own success.

That's a real shame.

When I was a child, success was admired. Success was something to aspire to. Now it's just excuses and blame.... And "of course, he cheated"

You guys would never tell your child everyday "you can't succeed and you can't be what you want" but you have zero qualms about broadcasting that message, loud and clear, 24/7 to the rest of society and it's obviously a corrosive and destructive thing to do and hurts everyone,
who.. are you talking to with this post? You appear to just be rambling on about your childhood
_Richard_ is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 01-27-2014, 10:02 AM   #88
arock10
Confirmed User
 
arock10's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 6,218
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheSquealer View Post
We're not talking about 10 year olds. We're talking about grown ass men acting like 10 year olds by droning on and on about how everything is someone else's fault and NOTHING is their own.
I'm literally talking about hard working 10 year olds. Who cares if they are only 10 and small. They are hard working, so that is all they need to succeed at anything... right?

Just like this short asian kid in middle school who lives next door that plays basketball every day. Since he plays basketball every day there is no reason why he shouldn't be the best basketball player in the world since he is so hard working.
__________________
Sup
arock10 is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 01-27-2014, 10:03 AM   #89
BlackCrayon
Too lazy to set a custom title
 
BlackCrayon's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Ottawa
Posts: 19,631
Quote:
Originally Posted by 12clicks View Post
My roofing biz was successful too
That's good but i doubt you're the guy on the roof. Typically successful roofing businesses hire people to do the dirty work.
__________________
you don't know you're wearing a leash if you sit by the peg all day..
BlackCrayon is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 01-27-2014, 10:03 AM   #90
dyna mo
The People's Post
 
dyna mo's Avatar
 
Industry Role:
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: invisible 7-11
Posts: 64,785
Quote:
Originally Posted by BFT3K View Post
Here in the US In the 1950s and 1960s it generally required one worker (usually the Dad) to work one 40 hour job, to buy a house and a car, pay all the bills, put the kids through school, and retire, often with a pension.

Two of my uncles were barbers, right off the boat, and both purchased 2 family homes, for example.

If you don't think that the "American Dream" is dead, you are not facing reality.
more sarcasm?
dyna mo is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 01-27-2014, 10:04 AM   #91
Robbie
Leaner, Meaner, Faster
 
Robbie's Avatar
 
Industry Role:
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Vegas
Posts: 20,959
Quote:
Originally Posted by arock10 View Post
The government that is run by private money in the form of lobbyists and unlimited political contributions...

So is it the government or the private corporations and wealthy individuals that want you to think its the government's fault ;)
I just totally disagree with that.

The govt. DWARFS every "big" corporation in the world put together in terms of money. And it spends more in a week than the entire worth of a guy like Warren Buffet

I don't know about you...but I find it hard to "run" something with my money when that something (the govt. in this case) has enough money to buy and sell EVERY corporation on Earth several times over.

As I've said many, many times...you can not buy what is not for sale.
If the govt. weren't inherently corrupt and full of lifetime/career politicians who are lining their pockets and the pockets of their friends and cronies...then our country would be in much better shape.

I don't blame any businessman for trying to get on the playing field by buying influence.

But these days it's more like extortion by the govt.
If you DON'T pay...then you will be shut down. And the ones who DO pay get to play the game and make money.

I know it's a different viewpoint than the one you see (that business is the bad guy and govt. is being used)...but I think of it like this:
The Govt. decides who "wins" and who "loses". And ONLY the govt. has that power. If one oil company doesn't pay the extortion fee...that's fine! Another one will and the one that didn't gets punished.

Plus, the last time I checked...we don't vote for business owners and corporations to run the country. We vote for representatives who are supposed to make sure that bad things don't happen.

I'm putting the blame right where it belongs: On lifetime/career bureaucrats who are destroying our country.
__________________
-Robbie
ClaudiaMarie.Com

Last edited by Robbie; 01-27-2014 at 10:06 AM..
Robbie is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 01-27-2014, 10:06 AM   #92
TheSquealer
BANNED
 
TheSquealer's Avatar
 
Industry Role:
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: In Your Head
Posts: 25,153
Children are not adults. Children are not responsible for their behavior and decisions and the outcomes of their decisions.. Their brains aren't even developed to the point that they can fully understand the concepts you are taking about... So no, it's not even remotely close to being the same. That's why children are treated as children until the age of 18.
__________________
.
Yes, fewer illegal immigrants working equates to more job opportunities for American citizens.

Rochard
TheSquealer is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 01-27-2014, 10:07 AM   #93
Sly
Let's do some business!
 
Sly's Avatar
 
Industry Role:
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Austin, TX
Posts: 31,319
Quote:
Originally Posted by BlackCrayon View Post
That's good but i doubt you're the guy on the roof. Typically successful roofing businesses hire people to do the dirty work.
Is it your contention that he just woke up one day and randomly owned a roofing business?
__________________
Vacares - Web Hosting, Domains, O365, Security & More - Paxum and BTC Accepted

Windows VPS now available - 3 months free for GFY members - 3 slots available
Great for TSS, Nifty Stats, remote work, virtual assistants, etc.
Click here for more details.
Sly is online now   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 01-27-2014, 10:07 AM   #94
BFT3K
Too lazy to set a custom title
 
BFT3K's Avatar
 
Industry Role:
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Narnia
Posts: 10,764
Quote:
Originally Posted by dyna mo View Post
more sarcasm?
Nope, that time I was referencing historical reality.
BFT3K is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 01-27-2014, 10:08 AM   #95
arock10
Confirmed User
 
arock10's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 6,218
Quote:
Originally Posted by 12clicks View Post
Odd, you'd think if my business was so easy, more of you at the bottom could do it
I'm sorry you had to work hard for 15 years doing two jobs. Clearly you should've been smarter at your approach to things.
__________________
Sup
arock10 is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 01-27-2014, 10:09 AM   #96
TheSquealer
BANNED
 
TheSquealer's Avatar
 
Industry Role:
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: In Your Head
Posts: 25,153
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sly View Post
Is it your contention that he just woke up one day and randomly owned a roofing business?
You clearly don't understand how business works. You wake up one day and just decide to cheat and steal and exploit others and money starts tumbling in. Hard work and sacrifice has nothing to do with it at all. That's what they are all trying to tell you!
__________________
.
Yes, fewer illegal immigrants working equates to more job opportunities for American citizens.

Rochard
TheSquealer is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 01-27-2014, 10:09 AM   #97
blackmonsters
Making PHP work
 
blackmonsters's Avatar
 
Industry Role:
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: 🌎🌅🌈🌇
Posts: 20,442
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheSquealer View Post
You guys crack me up. There is a great reason none of you are coaches.

If you had a pro football team to manage, all we'd hear is:

1) the field is not fair
2) the rules are not fair
3) the uniforms are not fair
4) the shoes are not fair
5) the stadium is not fair
6) the fans aren't fair
7) budgets aren't fair
8) losing is not our fault
9) keeping score is not fair

etc etc etc etc etc.

In the meantime, those great coaches on other teams will still be there, wondering what the fuck you are talking about as they work diligently to bring the best out of each and every player... and choosing players who want to be champions... that have a great work ethic, that are great team players and that all want to win.

They will work harder.
They will work longer.
They will sacrifice more.
They will play harder to win.

They will beat you every single time because they understand that difference between success and failure lies primarily about how bad you want it and how hard you are going to work for it.
But if I am rich I will buy up all the football fields and you won't have a fucking place to play.

__________________
Make Money with Porn
blackmonsters is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 01-27-2014, 10:10 AM   #98
dyna mo
The People's Post
 
dyna mo's Avatar
 
Industry Role:
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: invisible 7-11
Posts: 64,785
Quote:
Originally Posted by BFT3K View Post
Nope, that time I was referencing historical reality.
Then going by the definition of the American dream, several people in this thread are proving you are incorrect.
dyna mo is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 01-27-2014, 10:10 AM   #99
arock10
Confirmed User
 
arock10's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 6,218
Quote:
Originally Posted by Robbie View Post
I just totally disagree with that.

The govt. DWARFS every "big" corporation in the world put together in terms of money. And it spends more in a week than the entire worth of a guy like Warren Buffet

I don't know about you...but I find it hard to "run" something with my money when that something (the govt. in this case) has enough money to buy and sell EVERY corporation on Earth several times over.

As I've said many, many times...you can not buy what is not for sale.
If the govt. weren't inherently corrupt and full of lifetime/career politicians who are lining their pockets and the pockets of their friends and cronies...then our country would be in much better shape.

I don't blame any businessman for trying to get on the playing field by buying influence.

But these days it's more like extortion by the govt.
If you DON'T pay...then you will be shut down. And the ones who DO pay get to play the game and make money.

I know it's a different viewpoint than the one you see (that business is the bad guy and govt. is being used)...but I think of it like this:
The Govt. decides who "wins" and who "loses". And ONLY the govt. has that power. If one oil company doesn't pay the extortion fee...that's fine! Another one will and the one that didn't gets punished.

Plus, the last time I checked...we don't vote for business owners and corporations to run the country. We vote for representatives who are supposed to make sure that bad things don't happen.

I'm putting the blame right where it belongs: On lifetime/career bureaucrats who are destroying our country.
How do you get elected without all that private money funding your election? Sure there is exceptions, but you have to make lots of promises to private interests to get there...
__________________
Sup
arock10 is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 01-27-2014, 10:10 AM   #100
TheSquealer
BANNED
 
TheSquealer's Avatar
 
Industry Role:
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: In Your Head
Posts: 25,153
Quote:
Originally Posted by arock10 View Post
I'm sorry you had to work hard for 15 years doing two jobs. Clearly you should've been smarter at your approach to things.
So now he worked hard,... But only because he is dumb.

Interesting take on the bulk of society and almost all small business owners.
__________________
.
Yes, fewer illegal immigrants working equates to more job opportunities for American citizens.

Rochard
TheSquealer is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Post New Thread Reply
Go Back   GoFuckYourself.com - Adult Webmaster Forum > >

Bookmarks



Advertising inquiries - marketing at gfy dot com

Contact Admin - Advertise - GFY Rules - Top

©2000-, AI Media Network Inc



Powered by vBulletin
Copyright © 2000- Jelsoft Enterprises Limited.