Hot or Not Nudism or Porn?

[Bladewire]

Anyone know who shot this?

Is it a porn fetish or just a nudism shot?

[Scott McD]

I'm expecting a basketball to pop out there any second now...

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by Scott McD

I'm expecting a basketball to pop out there any second now...

Yeah I'm thinking it's photoshopped. Getting the timing just right for this kind of content could be difficult, or maybe creating fake baby heads and stuffing them in for these shoots?

[yuu.design]

its photoshop

[InSexWeTrust]

This is a what the fuck moment for me

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by yuu

its photoshop

You have the skill to know this, I trust that you are right

[Bladewire]

So I've been researching this. Evidently it's related to a fetish called "cunt bursting" and also, guys getting off watching women in pain during childbirth, climatically at the point of crowning. Interesting

[SilentKnight]

Judging by the bad hairdos and fugly tattoos - the kid should have a great upbringing.

[L-Pink]

What does nudism have to do with that shot?

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by SilentKnight

Judging by the bad hairdos and fugly tattoos - the kid should have a great upbringing.

I don't see a child anywhere, am I missing something?

[pornmasta]

it's a new p*do niche: baby insertion

[Spunky]

That doesn't arouse me

[PaperstreetWinston]

whatever it is, its in bad taste

[pornmasta]

why does this guy needs to be naked ?

[RyuLion]

Originally Posted by pornmasta

it's a new p*do niche: baby insertion

You Sr. are fucking sick just for thinking of that..

[pornmasta]

Originally Posted by RyuLion

You Sr. are fucking sick just for thinking of that..

you are sick to think that i'm serious :p

[CPA-Rush]

so fucking disgusting

[plaster]

fuck off... stick to assholes which you enjoy

[EngineCash]

WTF??? I hope this is photoshop ...

[gebu]

You've ruined my day

[Manfap]

He's getting one last look before it's ruined forever.

[_Richard_]

[PornDiscounts-V]

Not my cunt of tea.

[SilentKnight]

Originally Posted by EngineCash

WTF??? I hope this is photoshop ...

Has to be shop'd.

For the kid to be crowning, her water would've broke - there'd be blood 'n goop everywhere. The sheets are totally dry under her. And judging by the high position of her stomach bulge, the baby hasn't even dropped into the birth canal.

Despite the poor taste...technically not a bad pshop job, tho.

[ErectMedia]

Don't mind pregnant but I'd definitely find another hole to insert.

[michael.kickass]

[SEXTANT]

is that baby head?

[ZeroHero]

OMG why i saw this today, damn it

[Diomed]

I can't belive this is a casual conversation.

Only here. I'm sorry, that makes me fucking sick.

I know it's photoshopped but Jesus? Nothing against the OP, but to me this is bannable shit.

I always thought the pregnant woman niche (without the baby hanging out) was fucked up to begin with. Like..there is an infant fetus in there wtf?

Not saying pregnant woman aren't beatiful.. Or a naked pregnant woman bothers me, but the way they are presented in sites like those is fucking grotesque.

[scarlettcontent]

Originally Posted by Diomed

I can't belive this is a casual conversation.

Only here. I'm sorry, that makes me fucking sick.

I know it's photoshopped but Jesus? Nothing against the OP, but to me this is bannable shit.

I always thought the pregnant woman niche (without the baby hanging out) was fucked up to begin with. Like..there is an infant fetus in there wtf?

Not saying pregnant woman aren't beatiful.. Or a naked pregnant woman bothers me, but the way they are presented in sites like those is fucking grotesque.

agreed .

[Bladewire]

The point is, to get you thinking, that's what art does, it moves you and makes you question what you perceive and interpret.

Is this porn or nudism?

If it's porn, where is the stimulation?

Typically when art disturbs somebody they'll reject it as not being a valid artistic expression ( to amateur, not the right lighting, context, etc.). The image is photoshopped, it is art, there is no stimulation of either partners genitals. There is no arousal.

I'm Gay so this image has no sexual value to me at all. I can't see how anyone would be turned on by this at all, or interpret it in any way as sexual. After I Googled the image, I learned how some straight men are turned on by this, which I found disturbing

[L-Pink]

Originally Posted by Bladewire

art

[ArabMistress]

Totally photoshopped!

[jimmycooper]

Originally Posted by Bladewire

The point is, to get you thinking, that's what art does, it moves you and makes you question what you perceive and interpret.

Is this porn or nudism?

If it's porn, where is the stimulation?

Typically when art disturbs somebody they'll reject it as not being a valid artistic expression ( to amateur, not the right lighting, context, etc.). The image is photoshopped, it is art, there is no stimulation of either partners genitals. There is no arousal.

I'm Gay so this image has no sexual value to me at all. I can't see how anyone would be turned on by this at all, or interpret it in any way as sexual. After I Googled the image, I learned how some straight men are turned on by this, which I found disturbing

It's definitely someone's attempt at something. That much is certain.

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by L-Pink

Here are the two best descriptions of art vs. porn I could find at this early hour. Still on my first cup of joe. It seems at best, the image can be deemed improper art, but art nonetheless:

"Improper art, on the other hand, is kinetic. It moves you with desire, loathing or fear for the object represented. Consequently, it moves you to action. Thus you're not in aesthetic arrest. Art that moves you with desire towards an object, Joyce called pornographic." SOURCE

• Art is anything creative that has a message, meaning, rhyme or reason to it, and it is also meant to be appealing to the eye.
  
  
• Porn is any visual medium with the sole purpose of stimulating sexual thoughts, mainly through depicting sexual acts or gesture.
  
  SOURCE
  

[jimmycooper]

This is art. Show starts next week.

Tom of Finland: The Pleasure of Play

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by jimmycooper

It's definitely someone's attempt at something. That much is certain.

This is true!

Evidently some men are turned on at the pain a woman goes through when a baby is crowning her vagina. Who the fuck on earth would have ever thought that? Never entered my mind as stimulating or even in the realm of sex

[jimmycooper]

Originally Posted by Bladewire

This is true!

Evidently some men are turned on at the pain a woman goes through when a baby is crowning her vagina. Who the fuck on earth would have ever thought that? Never entered my mind as stimulating or even in the realm of sex

Yeah, there's definitely some weird fucking shit out there.

Also, in response to this here what you wrote...

"Typically when art disturbs somebody they'll reject it as not being a valid artistic expression ( to amateur, not the right lighting, context, etc.)"

One thing I think that many people in adult make the mistake of doing is confusing the art 'niche' with art.

To demonstrate, let's take a look at X-Art.

Login as an affiliate (just PM'd you my code) and check the promo galleries. Scroll all the way down to the bottom and then start slowly scrolling your way back up.

To me, it starts off as art (in the vain of like a Demarchelier or Testino) but then, to me, stops being art and becomes porn. I bet if guys here like Mutt or Pseudononomonous were to do the same, we would all probably estimate that change occurred at the same point in time. Obviously that point being right around the time when they started to focus more on hardcore content. But here's the funny thing. I think the change had less to do with the 'hardcore-ness' of the content and more to with a shift of their mindset while creating the content. After having some fun and experimenting with a few hardcore scenes here and there, mixed in with high-fashion photography type stuff, they saw an opportunity to bridge what had previously been a gap in the bridge between 'art nudes' and 'porn'. They saw a formula., then they took that formula, went 'all-in', and pretty much stopped producing the artistic caliber type content.

Whatever, though. There's nothing wrong with the occasional cash grab. it's just that in this particular instance, their passion for creating for the sake of creating and for the love of the creative process in and of itself was replaced with their passion for profit and it is precisely then when the art stopped and something else began. When the passion died. Art is passion.

Then sure enough some of the opportunistic formulaic types of the industry saw their success and tried to duplicate the x-art formula without realizing that the formula, while void of passion in it's current state, was at least birthed by passion. That's when all the generic type 'art' shit started saturating the market. It's like they were like, "OK, so this how we'll do it. We'll shoot a lot of scenes where the girls get fucked on either a Barcelona Couch or an MR Chaise Lounge, we'll put some Rothko canvas prints up on the wall, the girls wear what we perceive to be a classier type of fuck-wear, we'll shoot it all in 4G, each scene will have a Buddha Bar/Hotel Costes type ambience, and then we'll call it art, we'll tell the target it's art, we'll sell it as art, and then we'll make some mad fucking bank!"

Hahaha! Rarely is art so formulaic. Yeah, it can be at times, just not this time

Now, as far as the 'hardcore' part of the equation, again it all ties in to whether or not the creator has a passion for the creative process. Take John Stagliano for instance. He has a passion for ass. He is Buttman. And when it comes to the artistry of and appreciation of ass, he is the grand-daddy of ass lovers across the world. While I'm sure he's made a shitload of money over the years, I also get the impression that he would probably be creating the same type of stuff he's creating now even if only making a small fraction the money simply for the love of the process. While most in the art world (of which i'm very familiar) as well as most in the porn world what probably disagree, I consider him to be an artist simply because he does what artists do and he does it better than anyone else. He breaks molds. And when he feels like doing stuff which fits more into the category of what people consider to be 'artsy', he fucking kills it like no other. Fashionistas was truly a masterpiece.

That's all for now.

[jimmycooper]

More art.



Jean-Paul Goude showed us his sexy drawings - naughty "doodles" stashed away in his carnets intimes. Also around that time, Mats Gustafson showed us a couple of the first male nudes he had ever done. And so the idea for our next issue was born. To us, the brown corrugated box sleeve held shut by a black elastic band represented a certain rawness and reminded us of those raunchy magazines that arrive in the mail in a plain brown-paper envelope. Mats also provided the "illustrated" writing for the cover. (We did not realize that he had also drawn the logos for Interview and Mirabella.) Inside, the credits were written out on a rickety old typewriter. They say sex sells, and EROTICA flew out of the stores (after Issue 1, it is the hardest issue to come by). In printing Steven Meisel's anatomical close-up we came to an important realization. Namely, that Visionaire was here to print things that no other publication would. We were worried that some of the material might shock our printers until we found out that they had dealt in hard-core pornography. Compared to what they were used to seeing, our stuff was nothing.

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by jimmycooper

Yeah, there's definitely some weird fucking shit out there.

Also, in response to this here what you wrote...

"Typically when art disturbs somebody they'll reject it as not being a valid artistic expression ( to amateur, not the right lighting, context, etc.)"

One thing I think that many people in adult make the mistake of doing is confusing the art 'niche' with art.

To demonstrate, let's take a look at X-Art.

Login as an affiliate (just PM'd you my code) and check the promo galleries. Scroll all the way down to the bottom and then start slowly scrolling your way back up.

To me, it starts off as art (in the vain of like a Demarchelier or Testino) but then, to me, stops being art and becomes porn. I bet if guys here like Mutt or Pseudononomonous were to do the same, we would all probably estimate that change occurred at the same point in time. Obviously that point being right around the time when they started to focus more on hardcore content. But here's the funny thing. I think the change had less to do with the 'hardcore-ness' of the content and more to with a shift of their mindset while creating the content. After having some fun and experimenting with a few hardcore scenes here and there, mixed in with high-fashion photography type stuff, they saw an opportunity to bridge what had previously been a gap in the bridge between 'art nudes' and 'porn'. They saw a formula., then they took that formula, went 'all-in', and pretty much stopped producing the artistic caliber type content.

Whatever, though. There's nothing wrong with the occasional cash grab. it's just that in this particular instance, their passion for creating for the sake of creating and for the love of the creative process in and of itself was replaced with their passion for profit and it is precisely then when the art stopped and something else began. When the passion died. Art is passion.

Then sure enough some of the opportunistic formulaic types of the industry saw their success and tried to duplicate the x-art formula without realizing that the formula, while void of passion in it's current state, was at least birthed by passion. That's when all the generic type 'art' shit started saturating the market. It's like they were like, "OK, so this how we'll do it. We'll shoot a lot of scenes where the girls get fucked on either a Barcelona Couch or an MR Chaise Lounge, we'll put some Rothko canvas prints up on the wall, the girls wear what we perceive to be a classier type of fuck-wear, we'll shoot it all in 4G, each scene will have a Buddha Bar/Hotel Costes type ambience, and then we'll call it art, we'll tell the target it's art, we'll sell it as art, and then we'll make some mad fucking bank!"

Hahaha! Rarely is art so formulaic. Yeah, it can be at times, just not this time

Now, as far as the 'hardcore' part of the equation, again it all ties in to whether or not the creator has a passion for the creative process. Take John Stagliano for instance. He has a passion for ass. He is Buttman. And when it comes to the artistry of and appreciation of ass, he is the grand-daddy of ass lovers across the world. While I'm sure he's made a shitload of money over the years, I also get the impression that he would probably be creating the same type of stuff he's creating now even if only making a small fraction the money simply for the love of the process. While most in the art world (of which i'm very familiar) as well as most in the porn world what probably disagree, I consider him to be an artist simply because he does what artists do and he does it better than anyone else. He breaks molds. And when he feels like doing stuff which fits more into the category of what people consider to be 'artsy', he fucking kills it like no other. Fashionistas was truly a masterpiece.

That's all for now.

Yeah I love the X-Art stuff, always have just beautiful, but yeah more over the borderline when it turns to the hardcore stuff.

People see what they want to see. Hard core religious nuts see things in a way most people don't. Total horndogs see things in a way most wont, anything is a turn on to those guys!

I replied to your PM ;)