ianmoone332000

Yeah it is crakrev im looking at the offer on. Noticed it when i signed up to push MFC again. Hopefully someone from crak will let us know

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Holy Damage

I think anything related to Webmasters vs. Model is a waste of time...
Take a look at ACF.... punker barbie is very active there, any model that has broke a nail got a proper support from them meanwhile... We, webmasters, are all fucked here

phman79

So i reported it and chaturbate’s response was thanks for your concern, report anything else that maybe an issue and that is still there,

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drexl

She is very active here too, only you don't see it. Hint: chaturbate banners.

Maybe the cam business is a waste of time (as an affiliate). I consider this business to be high risk. A few affiliates make a lot of money and lure the rest into believing they will make a ton also. The main issue is there is no traceability of the money flow. Of course the sponsors are in check in terms of revenue, at a high level. That's easy. But what happens to your traffic at a database level.

When one of my whales is gone, I am not thinking the guy has stopped spending. I am thinking WHERE has he gone!
I would pay to know lol

It is anecdotic but recently I noticed a blank line in my stats (another sponsor, NOT cb), I notified them of course. They came back to me saying they are aware of the issue and to rest assured that no data has been lost. They were never able to display that "not lost" data even after the system was back. That same sponsor: if I send 1000 visits, their dashboard shows 15.

At least Chaturbate has a near real time dashboard.

I still think cb is one of the best in the business (I wouldn't be here otherwise). If only they would speak to us though ...

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Shedevils

Confronting models over these issues and especially making personal attacks is hugely inappropriate and unproductive. Quoted from Twitter: "People will not care if you were wrong about something, but they will care if you had a bad attitude."

Holy Damage

I dont know where you saw in my post anything related to personal attacks

Maybe you are referring to when I call someone a cheater?... I dont think this is a personal attack anyway.
but, once a cheater, always a cheater...

Holy Damage

Don't get me wrong, CB is great.. them pay on time... Request Daily Payout is really a nice feature.... but I dont feel them care about affiliates like before...
All these issues lately with models trying to "steal" spenders is a big BS... and I really dont think things is going to anywhere better than this.... Its just the begin, is gonna be worse than this...

Shedevils

I'm not saying you yourself said anything, I am speaking in general.

Certainly some models had felt that they were being personally attacked. And when that happens everything is spun so that the facts don't matter anymore.

heiko0o

What a great way to make the folks feel bad for the "poor poor" Chaturbate models for being called out a cheater - We Webmasters are so bad to them, and they did nothing wrong but steal all our money - Hey no big deal right?

hahahahha

seriouslee

Naming (and blaming) girls would not be necessary if cb had someone who checks profiles and user lists (for bot accounts).

Yes, confronting and naming models is not good for the overall atmosphere but NOTHING happens without it.

I'm with you though, that the words used matter a lot. This is where megafapper completely went off the tracks and it backfired hard and made the situation worse for everyone.

megafapper

omg, I'm guilty in all the sins, lol!

I've just pointed to the cheaters, and wrote that cb has a very buggy system based on limiting! I just started active public attention to this problem! And problem still exists!
But situation is even worse - botted models doesn't have any limits, but many other - have.

Also I still sure that someone in cb support covers cheaters! I don't know why, but it looks too similar to corruption. Maybe its just a stupidity of someone, but corruption is more possible.

seriouslee

Empty rooms or girls who sit and wait with hundreds or thousands of viewers are back on cb. Seems like it's the price to pay to not piss off some top girls.

Brian mike

I think chaturbate is walking on eggs shell RIGHT NOW and is not a funny situation for Them Either.

- They Try to not pissed off the models by heavy repression/ change in rules etc..

- I think CB care about its affiliates and Models But have to be very careful to not create a negative vibe for the models on the platform
that could be Kiss of Death for CB with a Mass Moved to another site from all top models AKA the power of social media.

- Is cb hostage of the models now ? I think YES

- Is CB alone in this situation ? Probably not, any business that have employee whining on social media need to be careful about their decision.

Imagine that One wrong decision, and you got Many Mila will start doing Video and use their fan base to create something you and I dosent want to happen......

Something need to be done but Time will tell.

I have split my traffic to 6 Cam sponsors from now on, Cannot wait or want to know what will happen.

Cb have always been a good earner for us, Spenders from 2 - 3 years have been back spending again its great but sucks when you think the
" SUPPORT ME BY CREATING A BR_ " user name will soon steel them from us again

OF course this is my opinion

seriouslee

You called Mila fat and other things. You spoke about black and white lists with no proof and not even an explanation of how that could work. You gave Mila the fodder for her video and campaign and unlike you she has thousands of people who believe every word she says. You accused cb of cooperation, probably pissing cb off too.

Sorry, essentially you were not helpful at all. You played a very big part in making things worse again.

Learn how to communicate.

seriouslee

Spot on. I agree with everything you write. I'm also sure other platforms will have followed these developments too. Will this encourage myfreecams to touch their camscore? No way in hell will they do this now, the result would be one hundred videos on twitter by mfc girls how they are unfairly discriminated by the change.

It was also a communication disaster on the side of cb. As far as i know, they only admitted that they even changed their algorithm AFTER Mila's "discrimination" video. Why the secrecy? Backfired completely.

megafapper

seriouslee You want to say, that if the cheater on the first place, we can't say anything bad about she? Or maybe she stopped to be a cheater?
A have a few questions: Are you webmaster or model?
Or you are webmaster that promoted top botted models? Or you are model used bot for the first place?

Why you call cheaters as top models? They are cheaters! They receive most of followers using cheating technics. And each day they get the first places using bots they get more real followers, and in the future they will be some kind of "top" model. Because always will be a fappers that fap on the first place - its some kind of celebrity fapping.

I don't care about middle of the page. Most convert did on real top rooms, first places.
The main used cb codes are based on top/best converting room. And when the cheaters always on the first places conversion drops.

I'm out. All this whining here is useless, because even if webmasters starts to clear cheaters, than webmasters have already lost.

Good luck everybody!

BigFurry

If some models have referred members too, surely they should care about other models stealing their referred users too?

It's not really an affiliates vs. models thing.

Brian mike

You got a very good point

CB is Victim of their success and now need to run the site like it was in the Stock market
Every move they will do in future will get Social media attention from the models.

I would like to be in CB shoes for the income but would hate it so much to deal with all those drama queen aka Models on a daily basis
CB admin/ Owners deserved their Millions monthly

I have operated a little while ago an escort Travelling Agency For 20 years and Those Women " DRAMA queen " have make me Quit kind of
And there was no social media at that time LOL imagine now how that would be .... No thanks lol

seriouslee

Can't you read, idiot? One very important thing in communicating is the choice of words and you surely pissed everybody off by the choice of your words. Also you skip past the part how Mila took your words and used them against you. Again, poor communication from your side and it could have been expected. You were even told here to mind your tone and keep it civilized here several times by different members, you didn't listen.

Even though English will not be your mother tongue, never wrong to think about how your words will sound to the receiving party. Will they sound aggressive or will they sound reasonable and like someone I wanna work with?

Also if you think our sign ups will only spend on the girls from the best converting rooms, you are wrong. So the places under the top row affect our earnings too.

ianmoone332000

Something i pointed out to Mila when i had a chat with her. Models should be just as angry as webmasters when they see other models doing this as they are stealing from them too

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seriouslee

https://chaturbate.com/sweet_ary


*** BECOME A MEMBER BY SIGNING UP WITH MY LINK (the black banner "Click here to sign up-chat for free" or the link below) CREATING A NEW USERNAME and every tokens you spend on CB (no matter if is in my room or other rooms), will help me so much!
If you really want TO SUPPORT ME with 20% of the money you spend on CB, SIGN UP with MY LINK:

As a logged in member (that means you already HAVE an account), you get this message the moment you enter the chat room and it is repeated every few minutes:

"Welcome (member name)! BECOME A MEMBER BY SIGNING UP WITH MY LINK (the black banner "Click here to sign up-chat for free" or the link below) CREATING A NEW USERNAME and every tokens you spend on CB (no matter if is in my room or other rooms), will help me so much! If you really want TO SUPPORT ME, not the CB itself with 20% of the money you spend, SIGN UP with MY LINK: https://chaturbate.com/in/?track=default &tour;=LQps&campaign;=J0CWW&room;=sweet_ar y THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR SUPPORTING ME THIS WAY TOO!

Definitely and obviously targets existing members too.

Brian mike

You can find and block on your custom WL all those bio listed in that designer profile:
https://chaturbate.com/hallowin90/ he have design 64 bio LOL Jesus christ

AllAboutCams

When is the create new username bullshit going to stop i know it can be tracking but some must get lost in the process.

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drexl

The question is: why wouldn't she do it..

Though Steve from Chaturbate here said this wasn't permitted so I suppose she can be reported.
If someone is in touch with them, please let us know and don't forget to ask about reassigning the money back to the original affiliates.

What a mess

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drexl

It can only stop if cb's management want it to stop. Simple.

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pornuploader

Since 24 April my sign ups have suddenly dropped by the half, Does anyone else here experience same thing ?

PornGrowsOnTrees

My sign-ups are fine. But rev is down a little. I see another model blocking signup button - model name : /xgoogle/

AllAboutCams

Blocking sign up button does not matter as you have them allreaddy via the cookie.

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zhenyoung

My sign-ups are fine. But rev dropped by the half.

sarettah

Some days my sign ups are up and some days they are down.

Some days my sales are down and some days they are up.

.

cybermike

You can't explain that

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Andreweb

This period sales were at least ok!

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sarettah

The seasons they go round and round
and the painted ponies go up and down.
we're captive on a carousel of time.....

(Joni Mitchell)

What goes up must come down
Spinnin' wheel got to go 'round
Talkin' 'bout your troubles it's a cryin' sin
Ride a painted pony let the spinnin' wheel spin

(Blood, Sweat and Tears)


That's life (that's life) that's what people say
You're riding high in April
Shot down in May
But I know I'm gonna change that tune
When I'm back on top, back on top in June

(Sung by Frank Sinatra - Written by Kay and Gordon)



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drexl

I had 4 times more signups in January, and 5 times more signups in February & March.

Must be a Spring thing, looking forward to Summer ...

On the bright side I still had sales!

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AllAboutCams

My sign ups are wa better but sales are very low

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drexl

way better than what? very low compared to what?

I took 4 consecutive months and it shows there's a drop in my signups:

JAN x4
FEB x5
MAR x5
APR x1

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seriouslee

As bad as cb can be, it can be worse. Had a look at the top mfc rooms today. Basically girls sitting around advertising their latest videos. There is one room (arrybelle) who just sits and does nothing and has one to max three (!!!) users in the room. How can you market such shit?

oce520

guys, report this slut please.

https://chaturbate.com/ocicat/

About Me:
BECOME SPECIAL OCICAT FAN, BY SIGNING UP WITH THIS LINK AGAIN, AND CREAT A USERNAME FOR ME INCLUDING OCI OR CAT, WARM AN OCICATS HEART. THANKYOU SO MUCH FOR SUPPORTING ME LIKE THIS TOO.

SIGN OUT, CLICK THIS LINK AND CREAT YOUR NEW PROFILE MADE JUST FOR ME

https://chaturbate.com/in/?track=default &tour;=LQps&campaign;=4Dw6x&room;=ocicat

special ocicat members:

ocicr4y
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PornGrowsOnTrees

Does anyone know the exact codes to add banner ads on the main whitelabel? Was going to test some stuff for extra money. But I can't seem to figure it out.

Only place I can put one is homepage Intro which is a weird spot. And if I try using css everything comes back with syntax error. But I did see a few main whitelabel with header, side and footer banners so I think it is possible. The footer one is fine for me but I can't seem to add any on the right side or header.

drexl

You should be able to grab the code they use.

Search for:

That's what they put in the intro.

And the css:

I didn't try it myself but I imagine you will have a clickable image in the intro, maybe in a div. And the css should have some simple rules to center it, and position it at the top.

You can post the wl link if you want.

I don't know if it will work well for what you want since there is a delay after the click, imposed by the cb.

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seriouslee

https://chaturbate.com/thejoshow

"please clear browser cookies"...

Holy Damage

meanwhile... If a model broke her nail... chaturbate has a proper support for this

oce520

Example 3:
A user on CB already has an account and decides to make a new one using a broadcasters link. The user is already tied with an affiliate and all future accounts will be credited to the original person to refer them to Chaturbate regardless of what link is used.

I tried visit a affiliate link and signup a new account through my white label, the signup count didnt seem to show up on the stats so i dont know about this example

drexl

punker barbie raised good points. It gives us a starting point for discussion.

What she states is true but it doesn't cover all cases.

It doesn't take into account scenarios involving whitelabels: cookies aren't shared with chaturbate.com therefore a performer link will plant the first chaturbate cookie at the expanse of the original referrer.

Some smart asses ask customers to clear cookies which invalid the "cookies aren't overridden EVER" statement.

example 3 needs to be verified: what ties a user to an affiliate?
in the case of a user with no email (most likely the tie is username. Then re-registering loses the affiliate)

in the case of a user with email but no paying method (tie with username+email)

in the case of a paying customer (possibly, a combination of username, email and encrypted payment method).

If this is how it works I am happy enough, It is as good as it gets. Real lifetime. But we still have the issue of whitelabels and broadcasters asking to clear cookies. I still think those "Register with me link" are a distraction from the main function: these links have a 20s delay during which a customer is tempted to navigate away, whereas with the main button he would go to the join page instantly.


Q: oce520, did you register with an email that was used with your previous account? did you verify your email?

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Holy Damage

Now we have double banners as a standard


room1



room2

drexl

https://chaturbate.com/threefundivas/
https://chaturbate.com/lilith_petite/

Good catch Holy Damage! They even moved the double banner on top of the default SIGN UP button which encroach on the core functionality of the site -> report



Before someone comes back again parroting with "it doesn't matter because I planted my cookie": it is interesting to note that one of these offenders is planting a cookie against her whitelabel's domain thus screwing both cb referrers and wl referrers.

Beside, you are limiting the conversion rate by going there:



... instead of there:




It is also interesting to note that those identical buttons are positioned exactly at the same coordinates. Like it was mentioned before, the problem may come from the designer of the bios.

Affiliate links are for driving traffic towards a website. Placing affiliate links on the destination website is an aberration.

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magneto664

Wait a minute did chaturbate no not take down already some domains with trademark
i see:



Yes i know is a CHATURBA - but I remember when i start deal with webcams i send support question with also was a some kind of CHATURBA mix in domain name and they told me don't do this. also I remember how TM work. those domain are easy to take down with

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PornGrowsOnTrees

increase of free signups but revenue is really low for me past 4 days.

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