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Old 03-06-2016, 01:52 PM   #1
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yes or no - can people change?

whay say you...& if yes, how long does it take to stick?

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Can they change? Yes.

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i've seen many change but most of the time it takes near death to do it.

Total asshole has heart attack is now nicest most helpful guy I know.

Guy beats cancer now loves everyone and lost ton of weight.

Also seen changes for the worse. It is rare to see a change for no reason.

Now a slut is a slut so don't go trying to change a slut lol
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yes one can be violent and later in life be peaceful. moses was a convicted murder. turned around 360
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yes one can be violent and later in life be peaceful. moses was a convicted murder. turned around 360
moses? lol you mean turned around after 360 years old?
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moses? lol you mean turned around after 360 years old?
Think he meant to say did a 180 and turned his life around but he is a fucking retard and said 360.
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Think he meant to say did a 180 and turned his life around but he is a fucking retard and said 360.
180 is a half circle. you want a full circle bryan. look up the meaning of a spiritual circle
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who you are is not static and changes from second to second and is influenced by everything around you from every conversation you have to every piece of stimulus from your environment.

If you are asking if people can make major behavioral changes, the answer is obviously yes. I can turn you into a murderer, i can torture you to psychosis, i can convince you to join a cult and slowly turn you into a completely different person with different values. For the most part, a person cannot make major and quick positive changes in who they are without wanting to and without making a focused and persistent effort to do so.
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180 is a half circle. you want a full circle bryan. look up the meaning of a spiritual circle
360 degrees takes you back to where you started, dip shit.
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who you are is not static and changes from second to second and is influenced by everything around you from every conversation you have to every piece of stimulus from your environment.

If you are asking if people can make major behavioral changes, the answer is obviously yes. I can turn you into a murderer, i can torture you to psychosis, i can convince you to join a cult and slowly turn you into a completely different person with different values. For the most part, a person cannot make major and quick positive changes in who they are without wanting to and without making a focused and persistent effort to do so.
Is it possible to stop being a sociopath? I'm asking for a friend.
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whay say you...& if yes, how long does it take to stick?

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Is it possible to stop being a sociopath? I'm asking for a friend.
Sociopaths rarely get help in large part, because they think they are awesome and have extremely inflated views of themselves, their abilities and status etc.


Imagine telling Jordon Befort from The Wolf of Wall Street that he needs to get therapy, so he can care about people, understand their needs and stop being so narcissistic and predatory .... and then explain that the end result will be a 65k a year salary, a mini van and a 150k house in the middle of nowhere.... i'd love to pick the brain of the person that could sell that one.
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whay say you...& if yes, how long does it take to stick?

people absolutely can't change

they are wired (programmed with particular sets of genes to always act in a certain way) from the birth

they can pretend, or be forced for a time, but will always gravitate back to the original programming
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Sociopaths rarely get help in large part, because they think they are awesome and have extremely inflated views of themselves, their abilities and status etc.


Imagine telling Jordon Befort from The Wolf of Wall Street that he needs to get therapy, so he can care about people, understand their needs and stop being so narcissistic and predatory .... and then explain that the end result will be a 65k a year salary, a mini van and a 150k house in the middle of nowhere.... i'd love to pick the brain of the person that could sell that one.
Haha! Yeah that person would have to be an even bigger sociopath.

Regarding your first point I think what made the Ari Gold therapy sessions so fascinating was the fact that he was only there because his wife forced him to go. He was trapped. I sympathized.







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Haha! Yeah that person would have to be an even bigger sociopath.

Regarding your first point I think what made the Ari Gold therapy sessions so fascinating was the fact that he was only there because his wife forced him to go. He was trapped. I sympathized.
I love his scenes - he really picks it up in season 4 and it always makes me laugh.

Some of those scenes are definitely classics.
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only thing constant in life is change

people do change.

they do not like to change due to established level of comfort and stability. remove that and see what happens.
other than that, as mentioned above, one can change if they want to and apply some determination

with people's environment or life-style changes, person's behavior will adopt, over time that may reflect on their character too. everything is relative and conditional, that goes to change itself as well.
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I love his scenes - he really picks it up in season 4 and it always makes me laugh.

Some of those scenes are definitely classics.
dude, have you seen Whiplash? I finally saw it a few weeks ago. It was fucking awesome and I have a feeling it would be right up your alley.



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If you are asking if people can make major behavioral changes, the answer is obviously yes. I can turn you into a murderer, i can torture you to psychosis, i can convince you to join a cult and slowly turn you into a completely different person with different values. For the most part, a person cannot make major and quick positive changes in who they are without wanting to and without making a focused and persistent effort to do so.
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only thing constant in life is change

people do change.

they do not like to change due to established level of comfort and stability. remove that and see what happens.
other than that, as mentioned above, one can change if they want to and apply some determination

with people's environment or life-style changes, person's behavior will adopt, over time that may reflect on their character too. everything is relative and conditional, that goes to change itself as well.
great comments. they say GFY is dead? some pretty smart fucking people surf this place.

i wanna change something. years & years are passing & i do not do it. ruining my life. im too comfortable. lazy. i need an external force to force me, like a boot camp. today i dont know where this force will come from. obviously it must come from within if it does not come from without. i am a great writer, planner, thinker. terrible do-er. this must change. i will be so amazing if i can cross the bridge to working hard. i have a great website & nobody knows, cause i dont make it better. my best content is unpublished & ive gotten so lazy i wont even post it. its 1 year to the day, my last update. its crazy.

/end of sulking.
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great comments. they say GFY is dead? some pretty smart fucking people surf this place.

i wanna change something. years & years are passing & i do not do it. ruining my life. im too comfortable. lazy. i need an external force to force me, like a boot camp. today i dont know where this force will come from. obviously it must come from within if it does not come from without. i am a great writer, planner, thinker. terrible do-er. this must change. i will be so amazing if i can cross the bridge to working hard. i have a great website & nobody knows, cause i dont make it better. my best content is unpublished & ive gotten so lazy i wont even post it. its 1 year to the day, my last update. its crazy.

/end of sulking.
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people absolutely can't change

they are wired (programmed with particular sets of genes to always act in a certain way) from the birth

they can pretend, or be forced for a time, but will always gravitate back to the original programming
what can be programmed can be re-programmed

regarding genes, even one's thoughts and mood effect how genes develop - they always adopt and everything effects them.
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great comments. they say GFY is dead? some pretty smart fucking people surf this place.
You want these answers to be true, so you subconciously agree, gravitate to them.

Stop lying to yourself.

You were born a useless piece of shit and nothing can change that fact. But it wasn't your fault, you didn't ask for it. Just bad luck.

Things have been the same all this time. Why would they magically change now? Think about it. It's only going to get worse.
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