LiLi

I am a camgirl. My friend sent me an email with a link telling me to check that out and get my video taken down. I am used to having my videos posted in porntubes and other sites of that nature, but what I wasn't expecting was that my full legal information was posted on the description of my video. All the videos I have ever made were published to the site with my legal information (name, address, phone number, old photobucket account, personal blog URL) on the description.

I look around the site and realize that even though it looks like a porntube, it is actually a site devoted to posting what they call "premium" videos of camgirls (videos that models sell) and recordings from live shows that the models do on their camsites. Sometimes they also share the model's legal information on the info section of the videos like they did with me.

So I try to look at their DMCA removal policy to get the videos taken down as most sites comply with it. But their DMCA policy is designed to cause even more damage to any naive models who might actually believe it. They want the model to take a picture of her face holding a fansign that reads "I AM LILI FOR xxxxxx.com" They ask to be sent this in order to "identify" the person, what a joke. Anon-ib used to have the same DMCA policy and they used these fansign pictures to further humiliate and dox camgirls on their board.



I told my DMCA agent to contact them anyway just to try to take it down. He sent a formal DMCA take down notice ten days ago, but they never replied. My agent tried to contact their hosting provider but it is a server located on the Seychelles that do not reply to emails.

So I tried to figure out how they keep this site running. This is a massive site. They have classified the videos by camsite so they are easy to browse or search, and they have thousands of videos. Which is a very expensive thing to do. Not everyone can keep something like this going because streaming video is very expensive. Guess who is picking up the tab?

Bongacams is. The banner on their site is a Bongacams banner. Bongacams is sponsoring this person, paying him to drive traffic to their site. So the owner of this illegal site is receiving money from Bongacams to doxx girls and steal their videos. If Bongacams wasn't paying this site money, he wouldnt be able to run his site. No serious sponsor would ever sponsor a site like this. Serious sponsors don't pay companies who engage in illegal activities.

Before anyone asks how I know that this is a Bongacams banner, check these two images:





Notice how the website has a category for each camsite (Camsoda, Naked.com, MFC, Chaturbate, etc) except for Bongacams. Since Bongacams is financing them they will hurt everyone except Bongacams models. And Bongacams doesn't seem to care. It looks like Bongacams is okay with this site's hurting the industry as long as it doesnt hurt them.

I am only posting this here after exhausting all other means. I contacted Bongacams support about this issue and they never replied. My DMCA agent contacted them five days ago and they didn't reply. I posted something similar in a camgirl forum and copied the Bongacams reps to the thread and they didn't reply. So I am posting this here now hoping that someone will give me an explanation of why they continue to finance a site of this nature when their activities are illegal and they are violating Bongacams ToS.

I am not about to share the name of the site with anyone here because my full name and other information is up there. But I am willing to give Bongacams the benefit of the doubt and assume that this was an honest mistake. If Bongacams wants to correct this they need to cancel his affiliate account and stop sponsoring him. His affiliate account number is: 300875 If Bongacams wants the URL of the website they can PM me here, I am sure they know the website I am talking about since they have to actually pay him, and they know where they are receiving traffic from, but PM me if there are any doubts.

If anyone is considering signing up for Bongacams affiliate program you should be very careful with your own information and what they do with your signups. I personally wouldn't trust a sponsor that is okay with their affiliates doing illegal activities and doxxing people in the industry.

brassmonkey

what?? you are saying they knowingly are breaking the law? i doubt they are. also you see the affiliate id right???

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j3rkules

I know this website. They post video webcam recording on their site. Honestly, there are thousands of sites like this one. Do not send them DMCA notice yourself, contact the cam site's model support with the links to the videos/pictures and ask them to take care of it for you. GL.

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LiLi

Camsite's DMCA agents are okay, but usually less efficient and dedicated than hiring your own agent which is what I have done. Since this site is hosted offshore and won't reply to DMCA emails, there is little that the camsite will do to help.

My problem with this particular site is not piracy, which I am more or less used to, but the fact that they posted my full legal information and did the same to other girls.

Aside from doxxing though, when it comes to DMCA, the difference between this site and the "thousands sites like this one" is that every other site does comply with DMCA requests and take down your videos. There are only 2 sites that don't. And the other site doesn't engage in doxxing models.

The fact that my full information is up there and I have no way to take it down puts me at risk. Thousands of people pass by my room daily and now if they look up my model name in google, they know exactly where I live.

Smack dat

What the fuck is up with that chicks arm in the second image..

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in the motion " Watson "

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brassmonkey

show us the holiday special! you have toys and stuff??

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AdultKing

There is only one option open to you and that is to take legal action.

An offshore site that has no US connection other than the domain name registry is only vulnerable to losing that domain name.

The Digital Millennium Copyright Act does not apply outside of the United States except for very limited treaty and copyright convention arrangements between countries.

Unless you're prepared to pony up to take legal action there is little you can do.

LiLi

I am not here to ask for advice. I know exactly what I have to do and I am ready to do it. I cannot sue this site because I don't know the identity of the owner but I am prepared to take legal action against their sponsors for solicitation.

Since Bongacams doesn't seem to care about this issue and won't reply to my emails I have grounds to assume that they are okay with their affiliate behavior and are profiting from his illegal activities. Before taking this to court my lawyer is contacting Bongacams credit card processors: EPOCH and SEGPAY to let them know where Bongacam's traffic comes from, where they are obtaining the traffic whose cards Epoch and Segpay are supposed to process. They are both american companies and will be very interested to know this information.

The reason I am posting this here is to let everyone know what is going on. As affiliates to Bongacams you should care about whether or not they are a reliable company. If Bongacams doesn't care about their own Terms of Service, how can you trust them with your signups or your personal information? It is not a trustworthy company.

LatinaCamChat

Fuck off nig.ger

AdultKing

Snarky.

After spending years fighting piracy by targeting the payment methods of piracy related sites I can tell you it is highly unlikely to have a payment processor take action on the basis of a third party advertising relationship with a pirate site. Especially when there's vagaries surrounding the lawfulness of making recordings of live streaming and then publishing them in the domicile of the site involved.

The most effective course of action is via the domain registry of the offending site and attempting to have the domain forfeited, something not without it's challenges,

The Porn Nerd

She wasn't being snarky. She was being what so many men have a problem with as evidenced by some of the comments in this thread (not yours): an intelligent, powerful, secure woman who knows how to get things done. She doesn't need advice. I have no idea as to the merits of her claims but judging solely by the intelligence, focus and overall articulation of her argument I can tell she is a person to be taken seriously.

Having dated a pornstar who had her personal info posted on Porn Wikileaks and then had a stalker attempt to assualt her (only thwarted by her pulling her handgun on him and firing a warning shot) I am most sympathetic to models having their personal info exposed on the web. It does put a woman at risk in a major way and, being a feminist (I am very "pro chick") this infuriates me. Whatever the relationship to Bongacams I sincerely hope LiLi finds a way to get her info taken down.

Any GFY lawyers want to help her out?

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BIGTYMER

What's the sites url? I'd like to take a look.

Nitzer Ebb

I hope you choke on your own black cock.

Nitzer Ebb

Look at Cyrillic writing. Fucking Russians. Not surprising at all.

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LiLi

This website isn't just making and sharing recordings of live shows. They are publishing videos that camgirls make on their own and sell via sites like Manyvids. The camgirls own the full copyrights to the videos they shoot and sell themselves and reproducing them without the model's permission is a direct violation of DMCA laws. I don't know if credit card processors will do something against Bongacams, but I will still notify them of what is going on and they can do whatever they want with the information.

Mutt

I don't understand - where/how did this site get your personal information from?

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what site is that ?

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AdultKing

fair enough.

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freecartoonporn

what adultking said is correct.
credit card processors wont do anything against Bongacams

the only option you have is going after the domain name.

best wishes.

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JesseQuinn

gracias for posting this OP, and to PN for your comments as well

one suggestion: report the infringement to Google and Bing if you haven't done so already

https://support.google.com/legal/tro.../1114905?hl=en

select 'Websearch' then 'I have a legal issue that is not mentioned above' and then 'I have found content that may violate my copyright'

echoing those who wish ya luck with this

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Barry-xlovecam

I would be concerned with that mostly.
If true, that sounds like a hack (security compromise). That sort of data should never be in the public domain to be disclosed. That is like rule #1.

How do you think that data was disclosed?

Paul_BongaCash

Hi,

Thanks for pointing out the problem.

Earlier this morning, as soon as we read your email, we immediately took action based on your request.
There are no BongaCams promo on the website anymore.

As your letters were sent during the weekend we could not react faster to the situation.
Please allow our friendly support at least 1 business day for a response.

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j3rkules

Shame it took so long, but like they say better late than never.

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onwebcam

I agree. But based on what is disclosed I assume it's user gathered info.. If it just had name, address and phone I'd think a hack but with old accounts and such someone is updating db info as it's found. Ex-boyfriend, jealous girl and even paying customer submitted? I see lots of girls selling their numbers and I'd venture to guess most aren't using burner phones. Phone number in itself gives up all that info.. Also accepting paypal and other address revealing forms of payment is another way..

Alex CZ

I know this site and they are using our models videos as well.
Good to know that bonga cams closed their account, but they also use MFC on popunders and other cam banners.

rowan

Wild guess: if LiLi has/had a domain, perhaps it came from WHOIS history?

I'm trying to understand why on earth a website would feel the need to post this information. Bragging rights? Just takes one mentally unstable person to take things to a whole new level.

romeo22

you got your answer

NatalieK

did the personal info come from BongaCams?

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LiLi

Thank you very much for terminating his account.

Adraco

Where, exactly where does it say that BongaCams closed or terminated the account???

It only says that the ads do no longer appear on that site, as far as I can see.


@Paul, would you please care to elaborate on the issue?
Is the affiliate account closed and terminated or will the user continue to profit from this illicit act from all the users he has signed up until now???

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LiLi

The pop-under is Clickadu. I already contacted them as well and I am waiting for a reply.

ianmoone332000

Go on to a well known hacking forum, hire someone with good rep to leave the site in a pile of rubble. Thats what id do

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Alex CZ

That one is obvious, on first click. If I remember correctly MFC popup is when you stop or forward video. Could be in rotation or geo based but I clearly saw MFC popup there.

RandyRandy

What a waste of life this fucking jigaboo is.

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the real question.

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John_Galbani

Site provide contacts to gay model database? What name of site?

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Konda

They switched to a new sponsor now that Bonga canned them:

https://affiliates.flirt4free.com/


They also use Clickadu to monetize their traffic

Paul_BongaCash

We want to underline, that BongaCams NEVER reveal private details of the model to ANYONE.
And if you are a BongaCams model, you probably know, that BongaCams has a special Legal department, which is working on deleting model videos upon their requests for FREE.
BongaCams cares about models, that is why you should contact them in case you see,
that someone uses your videos without your permission.

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Securom

Stop lying.I couldn't find your personal info on this website and I never heard about you till this topic.And no interest to post your info,you're not president of USA u're just regular camwhore.

JesseQuinn

uh, I briefly checked out that site and found personal info for two separate cammers.

I think I spent all of 10 mins looking around to find that. why you'd choose to make your second post in two years an attack on the credibility of someone who is objectively telling the truth is beyond me.

Last time I checked we were all on the same side in terms of protecting our own work and wanting to work with peeps and companies that don't do shady ish.

re: the US prez crap, there are a ton of guys out there with way-skewed boundaries who want to collect as much info as they can. Luckily not the norm but a healthy subsection of overall cam clients and lurkers. If you don't see the risk in this you either have nothing to protect in terms of your private life or just don't care what happens to anyone who isn't you.

if solidarity with a peer (in terms of at minimum not talking shit when an issue is raised) is an alien concept to you, that's on you kid.

fwiw you're missing out

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Nitzer Ebb

Hello Russian scum

onwebcam

I guess we know who the site owner is now.