babeterminal

do you still use google for stats and se traffic?

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Averaged across my sites 71% of my SE traffic comes from Google.

Do I hate that? Yes, but that's the reality of search right now.

Interestingly overall search traffic from all the others has increased year on year since 2010.

babeterminal

yes i see what you mean, but that se traffic including bing do not go anywhere else after a 2sec visit, since i remove meta data i get more traffic going elsewhere on site

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What is "SE"? Is that "Search Engine"?

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yes

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CjTheFish

Yes of course. But Bing is slowly on the rise and proves to be one of the best SE's for adult content so I focus a lot of optimization on Bing now as well.

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alexistexasass

I hate that too but yes.
But the good thing about my traffic is, when someone come from google they stay in my site like forever.
I have 1U/10V (User-View).

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alexistexasass

I think niche can solve this problem.
but for sites like: xnxx and ... it's a big one.

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NichedPorn

Are there any other things that are better than this?

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romeo22

Analytics rocks

Nicky

Most def

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babeterminal

seems 247mg is coming over to the dark side we don't need these parasites bing yandex and that fucking china baduasscrap[every 2secs whole ip region blocked 20 more in cloudflare still comes keyword[3letters] keywordxyz keywordfgh ]

eveknows...................

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funny thing i am still making sales in hong kong lol maddness

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if you use wordpress remove google anal [keep the meta to compare ] and see foryourself

https://wordpress.org/plugins/wp-statistics/

and keep bing to compare there

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i removed pinrest meta i will be replacing them

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thommy

that´s because analytics is not counting the bots they already know that you possibly get from your traffic exchanges or other shit.

google is the number one when it comes on traffic (even when bing is really bringing a bit more now - but still not even in the near of comparable).

if you have a site with 2 sec visit it must be a REALLY horrible one.
if my own sites are going under 7 minutes i would push the alarm button.

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babeterminal

its gone up 80k in 12 months after that dip last august everyone felt.......... we dont need them , everyone saw a dip in traffic from google and bing not on my wp stats

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i can see your point in that my first 250,000 files are not adult ------------ saying that i had alot of problems with bots not listing and hot linking my content on sub domains

when i changed back to directories and blocked off the fhgs and vids not i only get traffic to where i want it to go as in humans [no se none] coming from tgps, like thehun, freeones etc etc

horrible maybe for a free loader wanting to rip images keeping se search from free content we offer puts a dent in torrents

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just an added point about wp blocks these now block of the images and text in google searches, it searches for any text it can read[if you have no description meta in header which i also removed may years ago]

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I'm a simple man... I use statcounter

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yes its a mess tho

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thommy

????

you don´t want to tell me that you make money with such a side ?
even my worst german site have a better alexa rank worldwide AND in US and there is not one english word to find on it.

I really don't want to attack or criticize you, please don´t misunderstand. but can you explain me HOW you can make money with such a page?

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babeterminal

whos looking to placate any of these fake shit bags alexa, google, bing etc etc

how about all the how much is this site worth should l believe them

criticize all you want thommy you seem to have alot of those

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Ferus

I use piwik (private instans) for everything (due to gdpr issues) running on docker in aws

babeterminal

https://matomo.org/
https://piwik.pro/

which one or both the same? post these will try later

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Matomo bought piwik about a year ago. You can test it using their hosted version

babeterminal

i brought these in 2004 when everyone was going directory crazy, 2 bucks submission per directory, was fun but no joy, viral traffic, paid emails, paidnsurfer clicking, automation killed it all when the great and powerful googleozzzzzzzzzz declared it fuckery

Tips For Alta Vista:
Alta Vistais a tough search engine to get listed towards the top. Alta Vista does take advantage of META Tags when indexing a Web site.
One thing to consider when choosing your keywords for Alta Vista is that Alta Vista uses stop words. Stop words are words that Alta Vista feels are too common. These stop words are always changing, but to give you an example simply search Alta Vista on the keyword "the". You will notice NO results will be displayed because this is obviously a common word. You will then see at the bottom of the results page that Alta Vista has "ignored" the keyword "the".
Our biggest tip for Alta Vista is to check your keywords before using them in your META Tags. Check your spelling and try to use the words or phrases you think someone would type in to get to your Web site.
General Information:
The Alta Vista search engine starts by spidering the Web page you submitted with its spider Scooter. Scooter may take up to three months to spider and index your entire site, but will usually index your submitted Web page within a day or two. Your best bet is to submit your pages manually at the rate of no more than 30 per week. However, when you submit your 50th page under one subdirectory you will trigger a "spam alert" and you will be visited by human eyes at Alta Vista - be very careful to avoid the appearance of spam. We also suggest you do not resubmit the same page twice in one day.
The Alta Vista indexer gives higher priority for keywords located in submit Tags (TITLE Tags and META Tags). A higher priority is given for keywords that are located near the top of the page. Alta Vista also gives a tad higher ranking for keywords appearing closer to each other on the page text. It adds up the occurrences of the keywords in the page for higher scoring. If the META Description Tag is not present, it indexes the first 150 characters or so of the Web page as the page description.
Alta Vista will index both the Keywords and Description META Tag fields as words! So it is up to you how your page is indexed. These words are case sensitive, so build your page accordingly.
Alta Vista and Inktomi have been swapping "we are the biggest" boasts over the last year. Alta Vista has been the sentimental favorite of the pocket protector crowd for quite awhile because Alta Vista allows the searcher much more advanced query building than that of HotBot (Inktomi). Alta Vista was created out of a research project at Digital Equipment Corporations Research Laboratories in Palo Alto California USA.
Alta Vista also supplies a link to the Looksmart directory service and gets a major link on "no results found" from Looksmart. It is the only search engine to index in multiple languages and multiple character sets with on-the-fly translation. It can determine the character set of a page even if a Web author has failed to indicated it, which commonly happens.
Rankings Priority Rundown:
1. Keyword or phrase appearing in TITLE
2. Keyword or phrase appearing in META Tags
3. Keyword or phrase appearing near the top of page
4. Individual keywords appear close together
- Document date of origin: Touch higher for the oldest pages.
- Document length. Longer documents tend to do better.
- site linkage bonus: NONE.
Special Tips:
There are also a couple of "human" eyes from Alta Vista that will visit your site once you reach 100 urls submitted or 50 urls under any one subdirectory of a domain. These will read from the Alta Vista digital domain but will be Mozilla browsers of unknown configuration. If you get visited by these browsers - you are being checked out by a human to make sure you are not spamming the Alta Vista index and to compare the Scooter retrieved page with Mozilla retrieved page (not a concern with our Robot Tools program).
* WARNING *: If the robot retrieved Web page does not match the Mozilla retrieved page, your entire site can be black listed by Alta Vista. (many search engines are starting to use this technique).
We have found that submissions are limited to 5 pages per day, and after that, they may be ignored.
Our Evaluation:
(Summary. strong points, weaknesses, criticism, recommendations to users etc.)
Alta Vista seems to be a powerful search engine. Possibility to limit searches to certain fields is an advance same as boolean and proximity operators. Online manual is extensive. Query structures are not limited, but in certain situations we have doubted performance in complex search statements. Harvesting program Scooter doesn't seem to index sites very deeply. Sometimes Alta Vista drops pages from it's index and after a while they reappear. You can get different results from simultaneous, exactly same searches. Mirror sites databases are different from the main site. We feel this search is best used for finding abstract out of the way information. Alta Vista usually indexes too much and therefore the results are somewhat cluttered with non relevant results.

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Tips For Excite:
We wish we could give you tips for Excite, but they have been taken over by Overture (the pay per click search engine) in December 2001. For archive purposes we will keep this page here for the time being.
Excite does not take advantage of META Tags, they do however look at the words in the TITLE of your document. Excite may take as long as 4 weeks to index your Web site, so be patient and check often. As with most search engines, make sure your page uses the relevant keywords someone may use to find your site.
Exite only reads the content of your Web page and only reads so much of it. Pay close attention to the information in the top 1/3 of your Web page. Excite claims to follow all links and recommends you only submit your home page. We found this to be false. Excite will only index a few or your Web pages and will rarely traverse through directories. Even after submitting several pages, Excite only index about 10 pages out of a total of 50 submissions.
General Information:
The Excite indexer uses an in depth indexing algorithm to determine keyword relevance. The spider Architext, supposedly traverses the site and indexes the data found on the pages. The indexer attempts to summarize the site by selecting the most relevant sentence for the summary. Excite re-spiders the page about once every two weeks, but lately we have not seen this. Excite also serves as the WebCrawler spider. Excite was created by Architext Software Inc.
Excite does not use META Tags. The indexer looks for complete, full bodied, punctuated sentences and attempts to determine dominant themes on a page (it's about 50% accurate). It may help to place a sentence with some quotes in it at the very top of your main page. Be as concise as possible at the top of your first page. A good rule of thumb is to take your most important 5-6 keywords and write as short as possible sentence including those keywords and put it at the top of your first page.
Rankings Priority Rundown:
1. Keywords appearing in TITLE
2. Keywords appearing frequently
3. Keywords that appear in the same order
4. Length of URL. (shorter URLs rank much higher)
5. Excite uses link popularity as part of its ranking method. It can tell which of the pages in its index have a lot of links pointing at them. These pages are given a slight boost during ranking, since a page with many links to it is probably well-regarded on the Internet
6. $$, the more you give them, the higher your ranking
Special Tips:
1. Put a starter paragraph on your main page that includes all your major keywords and a very brief description of the site.
2. Point countless links back to your main page.
3. Put up "walls" between your different subjects and submit the main pages from your various sub-sites. Don't make links between subjects or Excite will run it altogether.
4. Possibly run a CGI program to detect the Excite spider and dynamically remove links that cross boundaries between your subjects.
5. Make single pixel width/height images that are hrefs to your main index page. All of your sub pages get indexed and the Excite spider counts on finding links to your main page to detect the entry point - so feed it what it wants without interfering with your content.
6. Once you get a decent listing on Excite - don't mess with it!
Our Evaluation:
(Summary. strong points, weaknesses, criticism, recommendations to users etc.)
Excite has made a lot of changes in the last year. It seems that keyword searching is basic, but they do provide some Boolean operators. It is not at all transparent how the search is done. There is neither information about the words really used for the query nor about the retrieved numbers for each search word. This search engine is better used for those looking for relatively simple content.
The search method used by Excite is a statistical one. It seems that the search expansion is not done dynamically but that terms which often appear near others (co-occurrence) are grouped together in the database. It seems too that these related terms do not exist for unusual search terms. This allows you to search for common words but not for uncommon (where it would be most needed).
Some important features are missing: Stemming and query expansion are automatically done, it can not be changed actively. Important information like document size or date of indexing the site is missing and no real power searching is available (search by site, domain, links etc.).

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Tips For Google:
Google is a tough search engine to get listed in because they use their own proprietary PageRank(TM) system which requires a link from another page to your submitted page before they will add it to their index.
General Information:
Google was founded in 1998 by Larry Page and Sergey Brin, two Stanford Ph.D. candidates, who developed a technologically advanced method for finding information on the Internet. Google's concept is a solid one, but one with flaws (not much different than other full text search engines). In many ways Google is playing catch up to sites like Hotbot or Alta Vista in regards to full text search. Some of these problems we will discuss below. The best thing about Google is the vast number of URLs included in their index (about 1.6 billion).

On June 26, 2000 Yahoo! and Google announced they have entered into an agreement that makes Google Yahoo!'s default full text search results provider. Under the agreement, Google will provide its underlying Web search engine to serve as a complement to Yahoo!'s popular Web directory and navigational guide.

The database that Google licenses to Yahoo! is not the same size: it's smaller than the Google.com database. It does not contain links to cached versions of pages. To demonstrate this point we have included the two links below to Yahoo! and Google with results for the search term "apples":

YAHOO

And the exact same search on:

GOOGLE

These two pages contain the EXACT same search, but with two completely different totals reported. In fact after careful research you'll find the results on each site are different. Yahoo! uses Google's database to supply "fall-through" content (material not in Yahoo's own directories).

On February 12, 2001 Google Inc. announced that it has acquired Deja.com's Usenet Discussion Service. This acquisition provides Google with Deja's entire Usenet archive (dating back to 1995).

On September 10, 2001 Jim Reese, chief operations engineer at Google told us they have around 10,000 Linux Red Hat clustered servers. Most of the maintenance tools used are simple Shell and Perl scripts and Python. Google has chosen to run its own customized version of Red Hat Linux instead of Windows(of course) or Unix. Google claims to index more than 1,000 pages per second. Most of Google's search and retrieval system is written in C and C++.

Google's search is used in more than 30 countries by clients including Yahoo!, Virgin.net, Netscape's Netcenter portal as well as others. Most recently they are providing AT&T Wireless Subscribers ability to use their search engine.

Google utilizes the Open Directory Project database as its Web Directory [http://directory.google.com].

Google uses their own developed full text ranking system called PageRank(TM). PageRank relies on the uniquely democratic nature of the web by using its vast link structure as an indicator of an individual page's value. In essence, Google interprets a link from page A to page B as a vote, by page A, for page B. But, Google looks at more than the sheer volume of votes, or links a page receives; it also analyzes the page that casts the vote. Votes cast by pages that are themselves "important" (or popular to describe what's really being done) weigh more heavily and help to make other pages "important."

Popular sites receive a higher PageRank, which Google remembers each time it conducts a search. Google combines PageRank with text-matching techniques to find pages that are both popular and relevant to your search. Google goes far beyond the number of times a term appears on a page and examines all aspects of the page's content (and the content of the pages linking to it) to determine if it's a good match for your query.

Rankings Priority Rundown:
1. Popular page(s) linking to your submitted page (the more popular the better)
2. Keyword or phrase appearing in TITLE
3. The keywords used from the linking page
4. Individual keywords appear close together
5. Individual keywords appear in large fonts
6. Individual keywords appear in BOLD fonts
7. Individual keywords appear in ALT Tags
8. Individual keywords appear in the URL
9. Keyword or phrase appearing near the top of page
Special Tips:
Google ignores both the META Keywords and META Description Tags. Google uses what they call a "snippet" to describe the contents of the page in the search results, instead of what most search engines use, the contents of the META Description Tag.

The number of pages and the popularity of those pages linking to your Web page affects your PageRank score with Google. Google considers the <A HREF="http://your_page.com/">anchor text</A> of a link in determining the page's score. When Google considers the text of the page they are not only considering what the author wrote, but they are also considering what the other people wrote when they linked to that Web page.

With this in mind, what about people who link to your site using inappropriate keywords? Could this hurt your rankings?

It might not hurt you, but... what if others on the Net link to your pages using inappropriate text? Let's say hundreds of pages decided to place a link on their Web page that looked like this:

<A HREF="http://your_page.com/">Child Pornography</A>

Your page could actually become number 1 for the search term "child pornography". Is that what you want? This is only one small flaw found in Google's PageRank technology.

Google is suppose to take this into account when investigating the anchor text and "should not" adversely impact your rankings under Google's algorithm. A link from an unrelated Web site does not harm the site's term ranking for the terms you expect to be listed for. That being said, it does matter what text was used to describe the link to your site. It won't hurt your ranking if a person uses inappropriate text when linking. All it's suppose to do is increase your ranking for those inappropriately used words like the example shown above.

The link popularity concept is not beneficial to Google's visitors. It's a great idea, but this can be easily exploited by those that fool the Google index into thinking a page is popular.

So how do you fool Google into thinking your site is popular?

It's actually quite easy. The first thing you have to do is create a search engine friendly Web page. Keep in mind Google's optimization when doing so. Use a very descriptive TITLE, bold and large font text on the page and HTML such as <H1>text</H1>. Then make sure you give the page a keyword name like "apple_pie.html" (ie, for the keyword "apple pie"). Don't use stylesheets to adjust your font sizes or bold attributes. Instead you should hard code these fonts and bold attributes to get a better ranking with Google.

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Now go to Google and search out every single Guestbook page you can find. Make sure the results presented by Google is for an actual Guestbook (the one that shows the submissions). Now right click on the TITLE displayed by Google's results for the Guestbook you want to visit and open a new browser window (it makes this process easier). Once on the Guestbook page, submit your own URL. Keep in mind that Google will consider the anchor text (the title of the entry in the Guestbook linking to your page) to be VERY relevant. After submitting to this Guestbook make sure you see your freshly added listing. If you do, go to Google's ADD URL page and submit the URL of the Guestbook. Do this with as many Guestbooks and FFA sites you can find.

Because we used Google to search out these Guestbooks and because we created our own link on the Guestbook page, you'll get a lot of PageRank points!

Google does not encourage Web page submissions. Google feels that the best way to get an accurate score is when they discover a page all on the links because then they can calculate the PageRank. Google feels that submission is not necessary because a quality site will be found without it. But Google does offer Web site owners an opportunity to submit their sites, but don't bother submitting if your site is so new that no one links to it. Google might still spider your site, but it won't be added to the database until someone else links to it. Think of this like a country club. If you know someone you get in, otherwise you don't.

A tremendous amount of poor sites have tons of links to them, while many excellent and new sites have little or no links to their Web site. New sites will find this concept difficult to overcome.

Google indicates that even one external link starts a Web site on the road to being found in Google.

Google has recently begun to crawl and index dynamically generated Web sites. Crawling dynamic pages is fairly new to Google's service and it's still a work in progress. Google realizes that crawling these types of pages is dangerous in that dynamic pages are generated on the fly, leaving the potential to get caught up in an infinite space of page generation (there is the potential that a search engine spider could get caught in a recursive trap, indexing thousands of years of calendar months by continuing to follow the "next month" for example). Although Google is approaching dynamic pages slowly and cautiously, they are now included in the Google database and that's good news for many authors.

A more recent factor that has been added to the Google algorithm looks at your page's HTML. Factors such as what section the word appears within the page, the size of the font, and the use of bold text affect the ranking of a Web page. Words in tiny font are considered less important in their ranking formula. In addition, words in the title and heading sections, and words in large font and in bold are given higher rank consideration. Again most of these techniques have been used for years with search engines such as Alta Vista Hotbot (Inktomi), Excite and others.

Our Evaluation:
(Summary. strong points, weaknesses, criticism, recommendations to users etc.)
At the present time the Google index is reported to be refreshed about once every month, but our research indicates 6 weeks to be the average.

Google only crawls and makes searchable the first 110k of a page. Long documents may have substantial content invisible to Google.

If everything worked on Google as they claim (except for the requirement of a page to be linked to before it is indexed), Google would be the best search engine out there. For most users, Google finds what they are looking for much easier than other full text search engines because Google uses a different technology to locate matches and actually helps the user who is less search savvy find what they are looking for. Power users may find Google to not live up to full text searching. Instead Google will return what it "thinks" a searcher wants rather than return results based on exactly what the power searcher requested. This will usually frustrate the power user.

Unlike many other search engines, Google only produces results that match all of your search terms (well not really), either in the text of the page or in the text of the "links pointing to the page" (ie, PageRank).

PageRank contains major flaws in that Google may be missing the "new" sites that have valuable information people are searching for, but you won't find this information on Google because it's new and there are no links to the information. so the site will not be listed.

Google also analyzes the proximity of those terms within the page. Google prioritizes results according to how closely your individual search terms appear and favors results that have your search terms near each other. So just because you searched a specific phrase, Google may (and often does) return results for any pages where these words are close to each other.

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Instead of using the META Description Tag, Google uses a "snippet" to describe what the page is about. Snippets often don't tell you enough about the page. Ignoring the Description META Tag for determining the relevancy of a page is fine, but utilizing the META Description Tag may provide more meaningful information than their little snippet does. Most Web authors use the META Description Tag for what it was designed for and if all search engines did not include the META Description for ranking purposes, we would then have a more meaningful description. We have to admit that some authors use the META Keywords Tag inappropriately.

Google has no case sensitive searching. Using either lower or upper case returns the same results. From a Web developer's point of view this is great, but from a searcher's point of view this can be extremely frustrating.

Google ignores common words and characters such as "where" and "how", as well as certain single digits and single letters, because they tend to slow down your search without improving the results.

The concept of using stop words is great because if you searched on the term "apple" and a hundred billion URLs in Google's index contained that word, it would in my opinion be a worthless search. But Google's stop words are hard coded words and these stop words are included with every single search you perform including phrase searching. So if you go to Google and search on the phrase:

"this and that"

You would not be presented with any results. Any other full text search engine will perform this search because the phrase "this and that" is NOT the same as if you were to enter each keyword separately. This is now a "phrase" and should not be considered separate keywords. It is true that Google allows you to search this type of phrase. To do this a searcher would have to enter the following query instead:

"+this +and +that"

Google treats each word in your phrase as a separate word rather than as a group (phrase) of words like other major full text search engines do. And if you don't know Google's stop words list (nobody does), then it may take several searches before you've actually entered a search phrase that Google will accept and actually search every word in the phrase (even though it may not return a page with that phrase).

The search phrase "+this +and +that" returned about 183,000 URLs in Google which is NOT very much considering Google's index is larger than 1.6 billion URLs! And if you look closely at the results you will find quite a few of the returned results do NOT contain the phrase "this and that". That's because Google uses "proximity" calculations instead of returning the results the searcher asked for. Proximity in this case means that if Google can find all the words contained in this phrase somewhat close to each other in the document, then Google feels that it is a valid hit. Again, this is fine for the Web page author, but not usually good for the searcher and certainly not for the power user.

Stop words on other major search engines like Alta Vista are generated dynamically. Here's an example of how Alta Vista dynamically generates it's stop words:

Let's say it's day one for Alta Vista. They just launched their search engine with NO entries in the index. They receive a URL addition and that entire document contained the following:

Apple pie is good eating

Now you go to Alta Vista and search on the keyword "apple". Alta Vista will return NO results because the word "apple" is contained in 100% of all URLs indexed (only one at this point). Alta Vista considered "apple" to be a stop word if 60% or greater of the documents indexed contained that word (60% is a hypothetical number used for this example). But later another page was added to their index with the following text:

Cherry pie is good tasting

Now when a searcher searches on "apple" he will be presented with results. But if that searcher searched on the word "pie", Alta Vista would return NO results because "pie" was found in 100% of all URLs indexed. Now one more URL was added to their index and it contained the following:

Blueberry pie is an excellent desert

The words "Apple", "Cherry", "Blueberry", "an", "eating", "tasting" and "desert" would all be relevant search terms because they appear in less than 60% of all documents indexed. The words "pie", "is" and "good" would be considered stop words in this example because they are found in 60% or more of all indexed documents.

With Google being one of the largest full text search engine on the Web, it makes little sense that Google would hard code stop words. Dynamically generated stop words would be perfect for Google.

Of course Google as well as other major full text search engines will allow you to search using stop words simply by placing a "+" in front of that word.

Google's advanced link search is broken....

If you want to search out pages that link to a specific Web site (very important for Web site optimization and submission) you would enter the following search term:

link:Scrub The Web Search Engine - Submit URL - Seo Directory

That will return all pages that link to this domain. At the bottom of the search results Google gives you the opportunity to search for a specific term found on any of these pages that link to this domain. Click on the link (next to the search box at the bottom of the page), that reads "Search within results". Now type in your search terms. In this example we will use the search term "meta tag" and hit the "Search within results" button. This will then return zero results, but it should return hundreds or even thousands.

Google may or may NOT follow the Standard Robot Exclusion (ie, robots.txt). We have found that Google can visit a Web page on a site and follow that link to your site and index that page even if on your site you include that page in your robots.txt (or in the Robots META Tag).

We know of this problem because we have repeatedly requested Google remove pages from their index that we have requested robots NOT index in our robots.txt file. In this file (created way back in 1996) we explicitly tell ALL robots to NOT index anything found in our /cgi-bin/ directory:

# for use by all robots
User-agent: *
Disallow: /cgi-bin/

We do this because it makes no sense for a robot to visit our dynamically generated Web pages. We also do this so that a robot doesn't get "caught up in an infinite space" just as Google themselves realize can happen. A robot can run wild in circumstances like this and can actually bring down a server in no time. To show you what Google has indexed that we have repeatedly requested they remove (for several months now)

Pretty stupid isn't it.

Google's believes their PageRank rating system makes Google virtually immune to spam because even if a Web page makes it into Google's database by using unethical methods, there is very little chance it will receive a high PageRank rating. However we have shown you ways to manipulate Google's PageRank system by generating as many links to your site as possible. Links alone does not make a page become relevant to a search query, but it can boost your PageRank.

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Tips For HotBot:
Hot Bot takes full advantage of META Tags within your HTML code. Try to use unique words or phrases as your keywords since HotBot will score the words higher in their relevancy rating. Be sure to use descriptive words in your TITLE and META Description Tags and use them often. As with other search engines be sure that the words you use in your META Keyword Tags are words that someone would type in to find your Web site.
Our biggest tip for HotBot is to submit and wait. It seems HotBot can take as long as 3 months to index you. Even after indexing you it doesn't mean you will be listed there next month. You must keep checking their database for your URLs.
General Information:
Even though HotBot does use Inktomi, it will rank and prioritize results to its own suiting.
HotBot now uses Direct Hit technology. Direct Hit uses Site Linkage as a factor. However its number one attribute is click thrus. Direct hit sets in the background reading click thrus to sites (the number of times a site is selected in a search). It then simply prioritizes them according to the number of clicks under an individual keyword. This has the overall effect of promoting high level ".com" sites over smaller sites. Within the month that HotBot has installed Direct Hit, tests have shown that 9 out of 10 sites returned in most results are high level .com sites (the sites that can afford all the promo gimicks and link spam techniques). This is true whether you click on the "DirectHit" option or not. Basically, HotBot is in it for the money and is in the process of building a corporate search engine only.
Rankings Priority Rundown:
1. Click Thrus to your site from HotBot's search results listings
2. Site Linkage - a major factor. (based on faulty - stupid logic)
3. Keyword or phrase appearing in the TITLE
4. Keyword or phrase appearing in the META Tags
5. Keyword or phrase appearing near the top of page
6. Keywords that appear in the BODY
1. First the search selects a subset of the sites containing all your keywords and does a simple ranking based on items 3-6 above.
2. Next it counts the linkages to your site from other sites. The top 100 returned results are then rearranged according to that linkage factor.
3. Lastly, it takes the top 20 sites and ranks them by the click thrus that HotBot has registered. If you click on the "DirectHit" option on the search results page, then it becomes a pure click thru ranking.
Special Tips:
At their core, the major search engines use what we call the location/frequency method of determining relevancy. For example, search for "bill clinton," and most will return pages primarily ranked by where and how often those words appear in each document.
To be more specific, a page titled "Bill Clinton's Life" is likely to be considered more relevant than others where the TITLE Tag doesn't mention the US president's name. That's an example of how the location of a term can be important. Similarly, a page that repeatedly mentions Bill Clinton probably will get more of a boost than a page with only one reference.
We're grossly over simplifying the process, of course. Location and frequency are not the only factors used. Each search engine has a blend of techniques that go into their algorithms. But location and frequency have tended to be the dominant factors. HotBot seems to break all these basic rules.
Our Evaluation:
(Summary. strong points, weaknesses, criticism, recommendations to users etc.)
HotBot provides many expanded search options which are easily selected from the search screen without knowing any special syntax. They have good and detailed help pages and FAQ. The interface is a bit graphic rich and takes a long time to load. You can use Boolean operators such as "+" and "-" even though they don't mention it.
Unless your site is popular and people click on it often, your site won't have much of a chance with HotBot's new Site Linkage algorithm. We wonder how new sites will ever get a fair shake at HotBot. Our suggestion is don't link people to HotBot as you will only be adding to the confusion!

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Tips For Lycos:
Lycos is another one of those search engines after the big bucks. Their network includes HotBot.com, Tripod.com, Angelfire.com, MyTime.com and a bunch more.
Lycos does look at your META Tags, but places more weight in the full text of your document. You should place Keywords at the start of your page. Are you using a lot of punctuation in your document? This may be part of the reason you're not showing up where you think you should. Lycos is punctuation intolerant. Don't use punctuation in the URL either. This is a guaranteed way not to be indexed by Lycos.
You may submit more than one URL from your site as long as the URLs represent distinct Web pages. Multiple pages that contain the same content will not be added.
General Information:
Around since May 1994, Lycos is one of the oldest of the major search engines. It began as a project at Carnegie Mellon University. The name Lycos comes from the Latin for "wolf spider."
Lycos lists sites in two main ways. There are search engine listings, and there is an associated directory called "Web Guides". Sites are automatically listed in these using technology from WiseWire, a company Lycos acquired in early 1998.
Lycos also runs a rating service called Top 5%. These are reviews of what's best on the Web. Reviews can be browsed or searched, and they can be sorted by review date, content, design, overall experience or alphabetical order.
Top 5% was originally called Point. Point was an independent company and one of the oldest Web rating services. It launched in 1995 and aimed to list what its editors considered to be the top 5% of all Web sites. Lycos acquired the service and later changed the name.
Rankings Priority Rundown:
1. Lycos looks for pages that mention these words early on, rather than far down in some sub-section of the site.
2. Higher priority for keywords that appear in the page TITLE
3. Higher priority for keywords that are closer to the top of the page
4. Higher priority for the number of sites linking to you
Special Tips:
The Lycos spider T-Rex will index more than one URL from your site as long as the URLs represent distinct Web pages. Multiple pages that contain the same content will not be added. The Lycos spider will try to travel through links contained in the Web page you submit. A good rule of thumb is to count on the Spider traveling down one level from the page you submit.
Lycos indexes META Tags, but they are just more text on the page to Lycos. Searches are case insensitive. It will use image ALT Tags.
Our Evaluation:
(Summary. strong points, weaknesses, criticism, recommendations to users etc.)
Lycos offers much additional material around their Internet search system. They put their emphasis on all the junk (advertisers), with information on preselected topics, suggestions, commercial information and advertisments, which raises the question of objectivity.
They offer relatively few advanced search options (no full boolean search, no limitation to specific fields, no support of search improvement). They give insufficient information about the service, like size and content of the database. The interface is relatively unclear. There is a mixture of different offers, advertisment etc. The database does not seem to be very up-to-date.

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Tips For WebCrawler:
We wish we could give you tips for WebCrawler, but they have been taken over by Overture (the pay per click search engine) in December 2001. For archive purposes we will keep this page here for the time being.
Webcrawler adds new listings to their database every 2 to 3 weeks. If your site is not showing up in the first 200 it may be because your page has not yet been added to their database. WebCrawler does not take advantage of META Tags. Make sure that the keywords you are using are words that someone would type in to find your site.
General Information:
WebCrawler opened to the public on April 20, 1994. It was started as a research project at the University of Washington. America Online purchased it in March 1995 and was the online service's preferred search engine until November 1996. That was when Excite, a WebCrawler competitor, acquired the service. Excite runs WebCrawler as an independent search engine. WebCrawler has an associated directory of reviewed sites, WebCrawler Select.
Although WebCrawler is owned and used by Excite it still tailors the results via its own engine and indexer.
Rankings Priority Rundown:
1. Keyword or phrase appearing in TITLE
2. Keywords appearing frequently
3. WebCrawler computes the relevance score for a particular document by considering how many times the terms in your search occur in that document.
4. The more frequent the keyword is present in the document, the more relevant
5. Another consideration is how unique to the document a given search word is. If the word occurs in only a few documents, its occurrence in a particular document makes it more relevant.
Special Tips:
• Your TITLE is the most important item for indexing. WebCrawler will only display 60 characters of your TITLE Tag
• Put a starter paragraph on your main page that includes all your major keywords and a very brief description of the site.
• Make single pixel width/height images that are hrefs to your main index page. All of your sub pages get indexed and the WebCrawler ( Excite ) spider counts on finding links to your main page to detect the entry point - so feed it what it wants without interfering with your content.
• Once you get a decent listing on Excite/WebCrawler - don't mess with it!
Our Evaluation:
(Summary. strong points, weaknesses, criticism, recommendations to users etc.)
By default no descriptions are given for the results which makes it hard to decide if the site listed is relevant. They do however have a link on results pages that will allow you to retrieve the summaries of these sites. Basically WebCrawler is not much different than Excite.

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Tips For Yahoo!:
Yahoo is one of the hardest search engines to get listed at and one of the most important. One thing to remember in trying to get listed with Yahoo! is that they are very selective. They will not index just anyone. A Web site must be both unique in content and fall within their directory structure. Yahoo! is not a search engine, they are a search directory. One of the most important things to remember when trying to index your Web site with Yahoo! is that relevancy to your site is based on the Title and Comments that you give them. Try to use words people would use to find your Web site both in your Title and Comments.
General Information:
Around since late 1994, Yahoo! is the oldest major Web site directory. Yahoo! is well-known, well-used and well-respected. Yahoo's traffic increased to more than 1.1 billion page views per day on average during March 2001, increasing more than 22 percent from page views served during December 2000. Yahoo is a very important search engine to be listed on.
Because Yahoo! is a directory based on user submissions, it may not have some sites in its catalog that a crawler might find from searching the Web each day. If a search of Yahoo!'s catalog doesn't turn up any useful links, users may then wish to consult with a real search engine.
Yahoo! operates under the Microsoft concept that you don't have be good, you just have to be first and the biggest. Their database is terrible with dead and decaying links that are 2-3 years old and out-of-date - their choices for inclusion are notoriously some of the worst particular sites on the Net under that category.
Yahoo!'s strength and success as a guide comes from humans. Unlike the search engines, Yahoo! does not spider Web sites to build listings automatically, using technology. Instead, human editors provide the brain power and intuition needed to classify the Web's many offerings.
Through this human effort, Yahoo! has become the de-facto Dewey Decimal System for categorizing Web sites. If you are looking for something, you'll usually find a relevant subject in Yahoo! that lists Web resources, but chances are it's not really worth your efforts.
Unfortunately, humans are also Yahoo!'s weakness. As submissions increase, the guide must either bring on new editors to process listings, let the backlog grow or simply accept a smaller percentage of listings as in the past.
Currently, it's the third choice that is being followed. A smaller percentage is getting in.
However, below are some known things that can increase your chances of getting listed on Yahoo!.
Rankings Priority Rundown:
1. $$, the more you give them, the higher your ranking.
2. Keywords appearing in TITLE (user submitted TITLE).
3. Listings are sorted alphabetical by title (in most all cases).
Special Tips:
1. Entry level pages on a domain have the highest chance of getting listed.
2. Some have suggested that Yahoo! is now a business directory only and new listings are almost required to have a base level domain.
3. Regional Entries. Sites that use the regional (city/country) Yahoo! sites have a higher chance of getting listed.
4. All of the major free hosted sites have been banned. (Tripod, Geocites, Xoom)
5. Pitching a fit. Yahoo! will occasionally respond to aggressive critical email.
6. Email response is almost non existent. - If you can find their voice mail number - use it.
Our Evaluation:
(Summary. strong points, weaknesses, criticism, recommendations to users etc.)
Yahoo! search is one of the most well known, but lacks an up-to-date database. Since many sites are announced by the creators there are a lot of commercial sites in the database. The precision of the hits is often high. The information about the documents is very poor, only the title and a short comment is available. Also the information about the service and the search help is relatively poor. Yahoo!! offerers some additional services which are very interesting (hourly updated headlines, weather and regional information is Yahoo!'s strong points.

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The ODP:
So what is ODP? ODP is short for the Open Directory Project. ODP's are based mainly on human-generated directories rather than computer-created indexes (robots).
Some of the top search sites on the Net -- The Open Directory Project powers the core directory services for the Web's largest and most popular search engines and portals, including Netscape Search, AOL Search, Google, Lycos, HotBot, DirectHit, and hundreds of others -- are all using human-generated directories (ODP). ODP makes use of the knowledge of thousands of volunteers who categorized subjects in which they have a deep understanding.
The idea: Someone who breeds tropical fish is likely to know the best fish-breeding sites, and someone who rebuilds Harley-Davidsons would best organize motorcycle sites.
Net Volunteerism:
The work is done by volunteers on the Net using the collaborative model known as "open source" (the sharing of information).
The ODP (using the slogan "Humans Do It Better,") has continued to grow over the last couple of years. In January of 2002, the project had cataloged 3,113,007 sites. Now, its 43,695 volunteers have created more than 451,860 categories.
The OPD shift has been somewhat invisible to most Web users. Over the past two years, a series of purchases and strategic alliances radically altered the playing field, though often without changing the Web addresses involved. So, even if you've depended on one site for years, you might not realize the results you're getting today aren't the same ones you would have gotten in 1998.
With all those alliances, there's almost no such thing as a pure search site using only one method anymore. Almost all sites today are hybrid, incorporating results from different search engines and methods and ranking them based on the site's own system.
Go to the MSN Search page and you're using LookSmart and Inktomi. Netscape is Open Directory and Google. AltaVista is LookSmart, Ask Jeeves and Open Directory, plus AltaVista technology. Lycos is Open Directory and Direct Hit, plus the Lycos spider. Even Yahoo!, with the largest human-generated directory, defaults to Google if there's nothing relevant in their directory index.
How Good Are They?:
Surfers don't necessarily want everything cataloged and cataloged search engines don't necessarily return relevant results. People go to search engines looking for information. Those who understand the advanced techniques of full text search engines would rather have the search engines leave the searching up to them. Let's face it, many of us are looking for that needle in a hay stack when we use these search engines. Most popular sites don't mean most information or information you want. I personally hate catalogs and I rarely use them if at all. Catalogs usually place results randomly or alphabetically and not by relevance.
Full text search engines will never die off. The most popular of all search engines (Yahoo!), realizes this and that's why they provide you with a choice or at least a combination. You can't get popular if you can't get indexed and many of us have unique products and services which don't quite fit the ODP. And because you have little or no control over placement, you MUST concentrate on the robots to fill this void.
What's Bad About the ODP?:
The worse thing about the ODP is that these indexes are created by humans. These humans are your competitors. As long as your competition controls the index you would like to be listed on, you're not going to get listed. The other thing that's bad about the ODP and sites like them is that because they are controlled by humans, the listings are only as good as the human maintaining the directory.
Getting Listed in the ODP:
Listen closely... Do NOT submit to any ODP until you have a completed Web site. Sites that indicate "Under Contruction" don't have a chance of being listed. This doesn't mean you have to fully complete your Web site. All it means is don't show that it is under contruction. If you are like most of us, your Web site is never completed. But having links to pages that don't exist or to pages that are under contruction will surely be dismissed.
Remember what we said above. "ODP makes use of the knowledge of thousands of volunteers who categorized subjects in which they have a deep understanding." So this means those that will visit your site are considered very knowledgeable for the category you submitted to. If you can't impress them you probably won't get listed. If you don't have much content you probably won't get listed either. If you're just selling and not providing valuable information, you may find it very hard getting listed in the ODP. Let's face it, we are all sick and tired of seeing these "Get Rich Quick" and the "Lose 10 lbs a Minute" Web sites that don't provide any valuable content.
It can take from several weeks to several months to get listed in an ODP. You have to be patient and persistent. You have to have good quality content to be listed in an ODP.
We suggest you first submit your root domain (ie, Scrub The Web Search Engine - Submit URL - Seo Directory). Any other link has a lot harder time getting listed. Free Web sites or ISP domains (ie, http://www.some_isp.com/clients/~jerry/) will find it very hard to get listed as well.
The Best Way to Submit to an ODP:
We suggest you visit the Open Directory Project.This is a one stop submission. First you start your navigation as if you were your potential visitor (customer, client, etc.). Once you find the category you believe you should be located in, click on the "add URL" link at the top of the page. This one submission will get you indexed with all the big boys who use the ODP. Before actually making the submission, look at the other listings in this category. How are they being displayed? This may help you decide what is the best way to contruct your TITLE.
Pay close attention to your TITLE and Description. Your TITLE should be short and sweet and describe what the site is all about. Your description should provide a bit more detail, but it too should be short (about 20 words max). Take your time developing your TITLE and Description because it's almost impossible to change this later. Don't try to cheat by using a TITLE like "AAA Place on the Web" because that's a dead givaway. The TITLE and Description you choose should be the same as is found on the Web page (or at least very close).

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direct submission urls 2004

http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/ukie/express/splash.html

https://www.allbusiness.com/comregis...n/register.jsp

aeiwi.comÂ*-&nbspThis website is for sale!Â*-&nbspae iwi Resources and Information.

Page not found - Marchex

http://www.alltheweb.com/add_url.php

http://www.asiakeys.com/Register.asp

http://www.contractorguide.com/Ineedhits/submit.asp

http://www.directhit.com/util/addurl.html

http://www.entireweb.com/addurl.html

http://www.exactseek.com/add.html

http://www.freeonweb.com/cgi-bin/mai...nge%20Networks

http://gamblingseek.com/cgi-bin/addurl.cgi

http://www.google.com/addurl.html

http://hotbot.lycos.com/addurl.asp

http://www.jayde.com/cgi-bin/addurl.cgi

http://www.infospace.com/info/users/....htm?ran=23940

http://humorseek.com/cgi-bin/addurl.cgi

http://mixcat.com/addurl.html

http://www.netsearch.org/addurl.html

http://www.musreview.com/addurl.html

http://www.northernlight.com/docs/regurl_help.html

http://www.oneseek.com/addtochain.htm

http://omnisearch.comstart.com/add.cgi

http://primefind.net/add-a-site.html

http://rex.skyline.net/add/

http://www.powersearch.com/ActionItems/addurl.asp

http://primemedical.net/addurl1.htm

http://www.scrubtheweb.com/cgi-bin/addurl.cgi

http://www.searchit.com/addurl.htm

http://www.searchhippo.com/addlink.php

http://texas.searchking.com/bin/add_url.cgi

http://www.smallbusiness.com/sb/user...mode1/pageMain

http://www.submit-one.com/links.html

http://www.splatsearch.com/submit.html

http://www.surfgopher.com/addurl.htm

http://www.thecia.ie/links/

http://www.truesearch.com/addurl

http://travellerseek.com/cgi-bin/addurl.cgi

http://www.webratings.net/add.asp

http://www.whatuseek.com/addurl.shtml

http://www.where2go.com/binn/su.w2g?function=form

http://www.dxpnet.com/riot/submit.asp

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Traffic yes, analytics and wmt just the first month on new sites.
Then as little information as possible to google.

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webmaster tools please let this thread know if the new layout with what they let individuals see who are not roped into adwords, ARE WE ALL SEEING THE SAME PAID OR NOT

i know wordpress analytics can be weighty but if you deactivate it, so it doesnt bring up all stats and live visitors when you login as admin etc etc,,, it still tracks so activate it check a few things out every week/month

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