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Hypo · 10-21-2001, 01:40 AM

I have had 52 signups to my sponsor in 6 days, but most of them trials. On a 50% partnership that does not earn me much. Do you think if there had been no trial just full memberships that would have earned me more money from the fewer webmasters who signed up? Any experience with this?

Yas · 10-21-2001, 02:36 AM

Damn,
I didn't know that webmaster buy memberships too

Anyway in my own experience - it depends very much on the sponsor - if their site is good those you will have a lot of signups even if no trial is offered or good % of from trial to regular membership, if their site sucks then those trials are not worth shit

Hypo · 10-21-2001, 02:44 AM

I think the site is above average, but the surfers look like they leach the content in 3 days and move on. Plus I think the my custom tour is what sells the sites more, so they would buy even if there was no trial. Of course, it would cut by around 60-70% but still the profit would be more. Any sponsor does that from you - remove the trial option for your surfers exclusively somehow?

P.S. Did I say webmasters? Ahahahhaha!

Yas · 10-21-2001, 02:54 AM

Hmmmmm... leach the whole content of a paysite in the tiral period - now that's what I call jerking off

Have you entered the members area of the site you are advertising?
When using a partnership program, I always signup for the sites I'm going to advertise and see what's inside. If I see a lot of upsells inside or a lot of that "premium member" bulshit I know that not many surfers will stay as members, cos I know I wouldn't

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Scoobs · 10-21-2001, 03:51 AM

Well...

I have only ever seen 1 partnership program that converts just as well (if not better) without trials. That is Drunkslut, and I found that it rocked when they changed the price down and took trials away from the signup page.

It is pretty hard to say with other sponsors... It depends on what the sponsor is and how niche it is.

Freeway · 10-21-2001, 04:03 AM

I am aginst the trial big time. 29.95 for 2 months should be min.

deluxe · 10-21-2001, 06:47 AM

Lightspeed does very well even though they only offer the trials in the exit window. I make a lot of full membership sales and I think that for about every 2-3 memberships I also sell an exit trial.

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Hypo · 10-21-2001, 08:53 AM

That sounds like a good idea. Offer a full membership, but if he leaves, show a trial popup.

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aleck · 10-21-2001, 12:47 PM

ask ur sponsor to make a special link for u without a trial popping out a trial one in a console. it's not that hard and if u making 50+ sales in 6 days ur sponsor is more likely to help u... // it can be better for 'em, that's partnership, right

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Clownbarf · 10-21-2001, 06:27 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Hypo:
P.S. Did I say webmasters? Ahahahhaha!

NO!! You've found me out!

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SykkBoy · 10-21-2001, 08:37 PM

We're going to phase our trials out as well..been testing some of the new sites without trials and not really seeing much of a difference in signup ratios, yet making more money ;)

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tenletters · 10-21-2001, 08:43 PM

I am a webmaster that is also a member of an adult site.

Been a member for over a year now.

UnseenWorld · 10-21-2001, 08:53 PM

If you have a good site with unique and constantly updated content, trials can bring people in to discover the wonders of belonging. If you have a site with static content that is just average or worse, of course you'll lose the trials. The whole point of the trial is to PROVE that a full membership is justified. Of course, even with a great site, you'll probably only keep a small percentage of the trial members, but all it takes is a small percentage over time to add up eventually to a pretty big membership base.

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Absolut · 10-21-2001, 09:10 PM

Well my experience says it's all about human psychology.

When they sign for trial, they keep these three days in their minds trying to get as much content as they can and leave for another trial and another paysite.

I believe niche sites with unique content and constant updates shoudn not have a trial membership unless and untill they are really expensive. Everything up to 29.95 is ok without trials.

So i'm with Wizzo, without trials good paysite makes much more money.

It's very difficult to go without trials in mainstream though, it's already standard there.

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10-21-2001, 01:40 AM	#1
Hypo So Fucking Banned Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 1,104	Trials - a good idea? I have had 52 signups to my sponsor in 6 days, but most of them trials. On a 50% partnership that does not earn me much. Do you think if there had been no trial just full memberships that would have earned me more money from the fewer webmasters who signed up? Any experience with this?

10-21-2001, 02:36 AM	#2
Yas Registered User Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 33	Damn, I didn't know that webmaster buy memberships too Anyway in my own experience - it depends very much on the sponsor - if their site is good those you will have a lot of signups even if no trial is offered or good % of from trial to regular membership, if their site sucks then those trials are not worth shit

10-21-2001, 02:44 AM	#3
Hypo So Fucking Banned Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 1,104	I think the site is above average, but the surfers look like they leach the content in 3 days and move on. Plus I think the my custom tour is what sells the sites more, so they would buy even if there was no trial. Of course, it would cut by around 60-70% but still the profit would be more. Any sponsor does that from you - remove the trial option for your surfers exclusively somehow? P.S. Did I say webmasters? Ahahahhaha!

10-21-2001, 02:54 AM	#4
Yas Registered User Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 33	Hmmmmm... leach the whole content of a paysite in the tiral period - now that's what I call jerking off Have you entered the members area of the site you are advertising? When using a partnership program, I always signup for the sites I'm going to advertise and see what's inside. If I see a lot of upsells inside or a lot of that "premium member" bulshit I know that not many surfers will stay as members, cos I know I wouldn't ------------------ Free Hardcore Sexxx links Webmasters submit your sites and movie galleries here for fresh traffic

10-21-2001, 03:51 AM	#5
Scoobs Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Out back Posts: 492	Well... I have only ever seen 1 partnership program that converts just as well (if not better) without trials. That is Drunkslut, and I found that it rocked when they changed the price down and took trials away from the signup page. It is pretty hard to say with other sponsors... It depends on what the sponsor is and how niche it is.

10-21-2001, 04:03 AM	#6
Freeway Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: EU Posts: 441	I am aginst the trial big time. 29.95 for 2 months should be min.

10-21-2001, 06:47 AM	#7
deluxe Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 1,434	Lightspeed does very well even though they only offer the trials in the exit window. I make a lot of full membership sales and I think that for about every 2-3 memberships I also sell an exit trial. ------------------ RaptorLabs Design Studio RaptorLabs Design Studio offering HQ paysite designs for $1099, delivery within days, unique designs guaranteed. Boost your paysite performance today!! Join4Ever Webmaster program - Join now! 77717734

10-21-2001, 08:53 AM	#8
Hypo So Fucking Banned Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 1,104	That sounds like a good idea. Offer a full membership, but if he leaves, show a trial popup.

10-21-2001, 11:57 AM	#9
Wizzo 2011 GFY Hall of Fame! Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Back in Texas! Posts: 15,224	Our experience drunkslut shows you MAKE a hell of alot more without the trial... ------------------ Don't Fuck Yourself, get paid 71%... JOIN CASHTOUR

10-21-2001, 12:47 PM	#10
aleck Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 940	ask ur sponsor to make a special link for u without a trial popping out a trial one in a console. it's not that hard and if u making 50+ sales in 6 days ur sponsor is more likely to help u... // it can be better for 'em, that's partnership, right ------------------ PlatinumBucks - amazing conversions, 65% recurring or $30+ per signup BigPenis - $30 per signup from lifetime membership

10-21-2001, 08:37 PM	#12
SykkBoy Jesus loves bacon Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Sin City, Motherfucker Posts: 19,969	We're going to phase our trials out as well..been testing some of the new sites without trials and not really seeing much of a difference in signup ratios, yet making more money ;) ------------------ Evil is as evil does http://www.darkdollars.com

10-21-2001, 08:43 PM	#13
tenletters Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: the deep south Posts: 2,079	I am a webmaster that is also a member of an adult site. Been a member for over a year now.

10-21-2001, 08:53 PM	#14
UnseenWorld Confirmed User Join Date: May 2001 Location: Portland, OR, USA Posts: 5,279	If you have a good site with unique and constantly updated content, trials can bring people in to discover the wonders of belonging. If you have a site with static content that is just average or worse, of course you'll lose the trials. The whole point of the trial is to PROVE that a full membership is justified. Of course, even with a great site, you'll probably only keep a small percentage of the trial members, but all it takes is a small percentage over time to add up eventually to a pretty big membership base. ------------------ Check out the new teen/young woman content at Wonders of the Unseen World

10-21-2001, 09:10 PM	#15
Absolut Confirmed User Join Date: May 2001 Location: Europe Posts: 109	Well my experience says it's all about human psychology. When they sign for trial, they keep these three days in their minds trying to get as much content as they can and leave for another trial and another paysite. I believe niche sites with unique content and constant updates shoudn not have a trial membership unless and untill they are really expensive. Everything up to 29.95 is ok without trials. So i'm with Wizzo, without trials good paysite makes much more money. It's very difficult to go without trials in mainstream though, it's already standard there. ------------------ www.ferrocash.com Great niche sites to promote! [This message has been edited by Absolut (edited 10-21-2001).]