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Old 07-02-2006, 11:23 AM   #1
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Hey Christians...

Why is it that when you go to church all you do is sing about how great and holy God is?

So "our father in heaven" wants to be reassured by all of us, over and over, how great he is? Is that really what he wants for his children?

I don't know about you, but I want my son to have the best out of life and achieve all his dreams. I don't want him sitting in front of me all the time telling me how great I am.

Maybe the Christian God has a really big inferiority complex or something.
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Old 07-02-2006, 11:26 AM   #2
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Having been an altar boy, I not only celebrated my love of god through song but also by playing pocket pool under my robe while on the altar. I think god appreciated that, and those naughty thoughts I had while spying girls in the crowd in their perrty Sunday outfits.
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Old 07-02-2006, 11:31 AM   #5
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how about some examples
If you've ever been to church, all the songs are about how great God is.

Examples:

God of wonders beyond our galaxy
You are holy, holy.
The universe declares your majesty
You are holy, holy.


And about every other "worship" song out there:

http://www.sing365.com/music/lyric.n...256DF200248A50

http://www.mixed-up.com/lyrics/worship/awesome-god/

http://www.mixed-up.com/lyrics/worsh...at-has-breath/

How boring!
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Old 07-02-2006, 11:32 AM   #6
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It's all about getting it up the ass from some priest
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Old 07-02-2006, 11:38 AM   #7
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If you've ever been to church, all the songs are about how great God is.

Examples:

God of wonders beyond our galaxy
You are holy, holy.
The universe declares your majesty
You are holy, holy.


And about every other "worship" song out there:

http://www.sing365.com/music/lyric.n...256DF200248A50

http://www.mixed-up.com/lyrics/worship/awesome-god/

http://www.mixed-up.com/lyrics/worsh...at-has-breath/

How boring!

That's funny, I used to go to church every Sunday, and I never heard of any of those songs.

However, I did find the lyrics to "Awesome God" (your second example) to be pretty amusing. Especially, "
Oh when He rolls up His sleeves He ain't just puttin' on the ritz,"

I would love to hear that one sung.
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Old 07-02-2006, 11:55 AM   #8
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Glorifying and worshipping Him, but why on earth would you ask this on this board?
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Glorifying and worshipping Him, but why on earth would you ask this on this board?
Glorifying and worshipping... that's my exact point. Do you want your kids doing that every day? Worshipping you and telling you how great you are? Seriously, now. How "great" can this almighty being be if he needs his "children" telling him how wonderful he is all the time?
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Tell us why you care so much.

Even if someone did come with a perfect explanation, you wouldnt care for it.
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Old 07-02-2006, 12:05 PM   #12
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Why would you ask that here, on the outside chance that any Christians frequent this God forsaken place?
Heres a tip, try posting on a board somewhere else if you wnat an honest answer.
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Why would you ask that here, on the outside chance that any Christians frequent this God forsaken place?
Heres a tip, try posting on a board somewhere else if you wnat an honest answer.

Good point. I know Donny has posted on some Christian boards in the past, how about posing the question there and reporting back the results?
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Glorifying and worshipping... that's my exact point. Do you want your kids doing that every day? Worshipping you and telling you how great you are? Seriously, now. How "great" can this almighty being be if he needs his "children" telling him how wonderful he is all the time?
Why are you intermixing one's relationship with God to their relationship with their child, your question is juvenile. I have always wondered why you make these threads on this board of all places, it appears you need some re affirmation of your non beliefs. If you really wanted to know this you'd pick up the phone and call your dad.
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Good point. I know Donny has posted on some Christian boards in the past, how about posing the question there and reporting back the results?
Just venting. As many know, I was raised in church. My dad is a retired pastor. This thread was started after I saw a commercial on TV this morning that was trying to sell "worship cds". The lyrics turn my stomach.
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Why are you intermixing one's relationship with God to their relationship with their child, your question is juvenile. I have always wondered why you make these threads on this board of all places, it appears you need some re affirmation of your non beliefs. If you really wanted to know this you'd pick up the phone and call your dad.
A few others on this board feel the same way. And is anything really off limits on GFY? I think not. Just take a look at the thread titles.
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God does not exist so it's all a waste of time. It's funny how they try to scare people by saying "If you do this and that you will go to hell" bla bla bla.. Look at earth today and tell me that we're not already in hell. Life is what you make of it. Not some invisible insecure old man that's never done anything to stop wars, hate, racism, greed, killng etc.. I live my life according to MY rules.. what I see as right and wrong. Not some stupid book of fiction that was written by MAN. HEll, if I'm going to believe some stupid book that was written by man I might as well just think that the Little Red Riding Hood story is real.
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A few others on this board feel the same way. And is anything really off limits on GFY? I think not. Just take a look at the thread titles.

Again, my question was why are you intermixing worshipping God with how your son treats you, they are independent. Sure I can look at some of the the other ignorant threads, but i had put you above the trolls.
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Thats what Christanity is all about. The priest telling everyone they are sinners while he takes the alter boy back into the confessional for some anal adventures. Christianity is the most hypocrasy-filled religion I have ever encountered in my life. Its a joke, a fraud and a complete waste of money.
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None of them go to church (Christian but no catholic I guess).
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Again, my question was why are you intermixing worshipping God with how your son treats you, they are independent. Sure I can look at some of the the other ignorant threads, but i had put you above the trolls.
God is supposed to be our "father". And he is supposed to be a perfect father. He is the role model men are supposed to emulate in their own relationships with their own children.

My point is that such a perfect "father" doesn't need his "children" telling him how great he is all the time. I, a very imperfect person, would never ask my son to "praise" me. Rather, the other way around would be more likely.

What's sad is that I have to point this out.
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Thats what Christanity is all about. The priest telling everyone they are sinners while he takes the alter boy back into the confessional for some anal adventures. Christianity is the most hypocrasy-filled religion I have ever encountered in my life. Its a joke, a fraud and a complete waste of money.
Anyone making such posts has either been on the receiving end of a priest's cock or has no idea what the fuck they are talking about.

Religion isn't inherently bad. Actually, many religions do a lot of good on this planet. It's the few humans in a group that cause the rest of the group they belong to to have a bad image. Granted any group taking a "fundamentalist" approach to their religion has a greater concentration of "bad" individuals, but again, that boils down to a few hundred thousand out of billions.
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A few others on this board feel the same way. And is anything really off limits on GFY? I think not. Just take a look at the thread titles.
Nope, nothings off topic and no doubt many here were brought up in the church as was I. It was what taught me right from wrong among other things but the guilt was overwhelming and just had to move on.

As to why the boring ass songs, "humillity" before God
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Thats what Christanity is all about. The priest telling everyone they are sinners while he takes the alter boy back into the confessional for some anal adventures. Christianity is the most hypocrasy-filled religion I have ever encountered in my life. Its a joke, a fraud and a complete waste of money.
But you have to separate Christians from Catholic. They are not the same.
Christians = born again wheras as Catholics are not.

There is no molestation in a non-denominational/fundamentalist church. Notice it was priests in the Caholic church.
As close as we got to that was Jim Bakker with Jesica Hahn and Jimmy Swaggert
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God is supposed to be our "father". And he is supposed to be a perfect father. He is the role model men are supposed to emulate in their own relationships with their own children.

My point is that such a perfect "father" doesn't need his "children" telling him how great he is all the time. I, a very imperfect person, would never ask my son to "praise" me. Rather, the other way around would be more likely.

What's sad is that I have to point this out.
Has God ever asked people to praise him? I don't think so. It's more man choosing to.
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To call God the "Father" is a metaphor that helps people shape their relationship with him. It's a guideline, a rough behavioral mold. No one knows the mind of God, though many claim to. It is absurd even to try. All that people do in church, they do for themselves, not for God.



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Has God ever asked people to praise him? I don't think so. It's more man choosing to.
According to the Bible (Luke 19:40) if we fail to praise Him, the very rocks will cry out. That was said by Jesus himself. Jesus, supposedly, spoke for God.

Sounds like someone has a complex to me.

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God is supposed to be our "father". And he is supposed to be a perfect father. He is the role model men are supposed to emulate in their own relationships with their own children.

My point is that such a perfect "father" doesn't need his "children" telling him how great he is all the time. I, a very imperfect person, would never ask my son to "praise" me. Rather, the other way around would be more likely.

What's sad is that I have to point this out.
You answered your own question, you are imperfect, God is. Emulate does not mean your relationship with your son has exactly every characteristic man's relationship with God does. Your thread was meant to do one thing, poke at Christians, if you really were perplexed about your question you'd pick up the phone and call your dad. Its obvious now you never had a question, your thread was merely meant to be antagonistic.
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According to the Bible (Luke 19:40) if we fail to praise Him, the very rocks will cry out. That was said by Jesus himself. Jesus, supposedly, spoke for God.

Sounds like someone has a complex to me.
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But you have to separate Christians from Catholic. They are not the same.
Christians = born again wheras as Catholics are not.

There is no molestation in a non-denominational/fundamentalist church. Notice it was priests in the Caholic church.
As close as we got to that was Jim Bakker with Jesica Hahn and Jimmy Swaggert
Damn, you are really dumb.
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According to the Bible (Luke 19:40) if we fail to praise Him, the very rocks will cry out. That was said by Jesus himself. Jesus, supposedly, spoke for God.

Sounds like someone has a complex to me.

Yeah, Luke. Probably OCD.

If I say I speak for you, does that mean you said it?
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Why is it that when you go to church all you do is sing about how great and holy God is?

So "our father in heaven" wants to be reassured by all of us, over and over, how great he is? Is that really what he wants for his children?

I don't know about you, but I want my son to have the best out of life and achieve all his dreams. I don't want him sitting in front of me all the time telling me how great I am.

Maybe the Christian God has a really big inferiority complex or something.
Maybe you should not come on here trying to incite arguments about something that people hold dear to them ... and just get on with doing business and chatting to people about worthwhile topics.
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But you have to separate Christians from Catholic. They are not the same.
Christians = born again wheras as Catholics are not.

There is no molestation in a non-denominational/fundamentalist church. Notice it was priests in the Caholic church.
As close as we got to that was Jim Bakker with Jesica Hahn and Jimmy Swaggert
never knew that christians and catholics differ. I'd understand that christians and muslims differ, but this is something new.
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Anyone making such posts has either been on the receiving end of a priest's cock or has no idea what the fuck they are talking about.

Religion isn't inherently bad. Actually, many religions do a lot of good on this planet. It's the few humans in a group that cause the rest of the group they belong to to have a bad image. Granted any group taking a "fundamentalist" approach to their religion has a greater concentration of "bad" individuals, but again, that boils down to a few hundred thousand out of billions.
I stayed away from Church. I did not take it up the ass from the holy man and I do know what I am talking about. I have seen how religon is used to manipulate people and get them to conform. Look at the Republican party of today. Perfect example.

Any good religion has ever done is always overshadowed by the bad. If nothing else, religion is what gets communities ready for the government to fuck them. The lube before the penetration, if you will. Religion is just another means of controling the masses.

And I'll tell you what, the next time one of those fucking bible thumpers comes to my door, I'm gonna give him/her/it/them a buttplug and they can go fuck themselves with it for all I care.
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never knew that christians and catholics differ. I'd understand that christians and muslims differ, but this is something new.

Catholic = Christian
Christian = any number of religions that believe in JC
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Old 07-02-2006, 06:05 PM   #45
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I stayed away from Church. I did not take it up the ass from the holy man and I do know what I am talking about. I have seen how religon is used to manipulate people and get them to conform. Look at the Republican party of today. Perfect example.

Any good religion has ever done is always overshadowed by the bad. If nothing else, religion is what gets communities ready for the government to fuck them. The lube before the penetration, if you will. Religion is just another means of controling the masses.

And I'll tell you what, the next time one of those fucking bible thumpers comes to my door, I'm gonna give him/her/it/them a buttplug and they can go fuck themselves with it for all I care.
I apologize that my reply to yours was a bit out of order - anger for anger type thing.

However, I was just trying to say that belief isn't necessarily bad. It's the few individuals who misuse a belief to fuck with other simpleminded individuals so they start catering to their whim (beliefs) that is bad. Most groups do this. Regardless if they're talking about some god, saving a tree branch, or convincing another that their fellow human from across the border is evil and should die because their neighbor is wrong.

Fuck.

We people are such simpleminded folk I'm amazed the human race made it this far.
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Old 07-02-2006, 06:10 PM   #46
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Old 07-02-2006, 06:19 PM   #47
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Just venting. As many know, I was raised in church. My dad is a retired pastor. This thread was started after I saw a commercial on TV this morning that was trying to sell "worship cds". The lyrics turn my stomach.
Donny... there is nothing worse than being the son of a pastor and having to listen to the bullshit hypocracy of "religious" commericals trying to earn a dime out of sheer pigswill in the form of CD's and "religious artifacts".

Religion has many leeches - they are a living example.

They have nothing to do with christianity, the muslim faith or any other religion
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Old 07-02-2006, 06:20 PM   #48
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Catholic = Christian
Christian = any number of religions that believe in JC
Yes. you are right.
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Old 07-02-2006, 06:33 PM   #49
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This is a pic of christian Armenian genocide where they don't care for christianity to much



FUCK THE HOLY ROLLERS! they should keep to themselves
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Old 07-02-2006, 06:34 PM   #50
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good point theah. Very simple idea
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