Will you pay the $750.00 ???? - GoFuckYourself.com

Danielle · 10-08-2002, 03:52 PM

Will you pay the $750.00 to keep Visa?

KingK7 · 10-08-2002, 03:54 PM

If you have over 750$ in rebills, you will

Mr.Fiction · 10-08-2002, 04:00 PM

You should have made both answers YES just to piss people off.

Danielle · 10-08-2002, 04:02 PM

LOL Mr.Fiction!

Good one!

Hugs,
Danielle

Pete · 10-08-2002, 04:03 PM

Dont have much of a choice. Either pay or sit back and watch everyone else make the money

Amputate Your Head · 10-08-2002, 04:04 PM

no... I will not pay.

ColKurtz · 10-08-2002, 04:06 PM

My vote is no. I have a variety of reasons why.

- Too much indecision. All of these billers is interpreting the rules different except the 3 that got together and decided to price fix.

- Not going to blindly hand over money. Whether it be $750 or ten fucking cents.

- Not worth paying that to stay with a 3rd party that can't even offer protection any more. Its basically like having to get a merchant account yet still pay 15%

Those are just some of the reasons.

Backov · 10-08-2002, 04:37 PM

You pretty much have to if you have any real amount of active members.. Otherwise you're just throwing a lot of money away..

We'll be reluctantly paying em.

Cheers,
Backov

Sunshine McGillicutty · 10-08-2002, 04:42 PM

Nope, for 2 reasons:

1. ACPay
2. Globill

There are more of course, those are just the ones I'm using.

gothweb · 10-08-2002, 04:42 PM

Should probably have been an option for "Don't Have To". A lot of people will be voting "No" because it doesn't apply to them.

Screwed Up · 10-08-2002, 04:52 PM

No.

Not because it's a lot of money. But because I refuse to support these business practices ...

It's not about $750. I don't care if it was $20.
This means they can change "the rules" again within 2 months and ask another $750 ...

.:Frog:. · 10-08-2002, 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by gothweb
Should probably have been an option for "Don't Have To". A lot of people will be voting "No" because it doesn't apply to them.

Yeah, This doesn't apply to me but I voted in order to see the results.

I voted NO though, simply because if I had a paysite I would drop the big3, and use a company with internation banking relationships.
The rebills? E-mail them and explain the situation and hope they cancel and rejoin.
Visa wants $500 now, next year they might want $600 and the processor wants $300 to pocket or whatever.
It could keep climbing and climbing all the time.

Gator · 10-08-2002, 05:00 PM

I'll be paying twice (don't want to keep all my eggs in one basket).

.:Frog:. · 10-08-2002, 05:02 PM

I'm thinking of using less sponsors that are 100% dependant on the big3.
You know scrubbing is going to increase and that puts rebills right in the toilet.

The more pressure that is put on the sponsor the more bullshit gets passed on to the webmaster sending the traffic.

BrettJ · 10-08-2002, 05:23 PM

Of course We Will!!!

Lexxx · 10-08-2002, 05:26 PM

$750 is nothing in this business...

so yes.

Amputate Your Head · 10-08-2002, 05:37 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lexxx
$750 is nothing in this business...

so yes.

$750

x multi-processors (let's say 4) = $3000
x Mastercard future factor, with same 4 processors = $6k
x any other cc's that follow suit, let's say 3 of them do = $9k

Grand total so far = $15k

plus annual renewal fees.

but then, $750 is nothing in this business. Just keep bending over.... someone will keep fucking you.

oh, and don't forget.... one fuckup.... just one.... be it chargebacks or a disapproved url.... and it's all over.

Amputate Your Head · 10-08-2002, 05:40 PM

oh yeah.... and take another 15% off the top for the processors for the privelege....

Lexxx · 10-08-2002, 05:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Amputate Your Head

$750

x multi-processors (let's say 4) = $3000
x Mastercard future factor, with same 4 processors = $6k
x any other cc's that follow suit, let's say 3 of them do = $9k

Grand total so far = $15k

plus annual renewal fees.

but then, $750 is nothing in this business. Just keep bending over.... someone will keep fucking you.

oh, and don't forget.... one fuckup.... just one.... be it chargebacks or a disapproved url.... and it's all over.

Pick only one processor out of the big 3... use other shady ones for backup purposes... Keep changing urls if they get disapproved (althoug why they would get disapproved in the first place)... refund the damn money if a customer contacts you... don't let them bitches charge back...

Amputate Your Head · 10-08-2002, 05:52 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lexxx

Pick only one processor out of the big 3... use other shady ones for backup purposes...

lol.... the Big 3 ARE the shady ones....
besides, one of them (Epoch) has already said, if you use a processor other than the Big 3, you will be terminated with extreme prejudice and not be allowed back.

Quote:

Originally posted by Lexxx
Keep changing urls if they get disapproved (althoug why they would get disapproved in the first place)...

sorry... try again. If Visa disapproves one of your urls, you're done. You don't get to try again.... you don't get to buy a pass... you don't get severance pay. You're just done. That url and any other urls you got. Forget being protected by anonimity under the Big 3 anymore... Visa's gonna have your ass in a basket.

Quote:

Originally posted by Lexxx
refund the damn money if a customer contacts you... don't let them bitches charge back...

better hope they don't.....

Swiftone · 10-08-2002, 06:01 PM

Nope my sites are with Glo-bill (have been with since before this 'situation') so hopefully I am in the clear (depending on if Globill ever gets sucked up in the Visa red tape or not).

Lexxx · 10-08-2002, 08:12 PM

Wait so if one url gets disapproved then the entire account will be terminated? That makes little sense but none of this does anyway...

Webby · 10-08-2002, 08:22 PM

Nope.. not paying! For may reasons, but main one's are intrusion, unreliability, extension of over-restriicive laws/rules/privacy within the US. Ya gotta wonder why, out of all global banking regions, the US granted this "priviledge" to VISA in the first instance - just insane and in keeping with the current trend in favor of US corporates.

sexyclicks · 10-08-2002, 08:42 PM

wow the score is 50-50

Honeyslut · 10-08-2002, 09:40 PM

Glo bill

strainer · 10-08-2002, 09:44 PM

Yep, going to pay it twice, first to IBill and then to PayPal when they get around to demanding it. We sell tangible products (dvds, video) and I haven't seen any alternatives posted that help me out, and last I checked, around 60% of sales were Visa.

Steve

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10-08-2002, 03:52 PM	#1
Danielle Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: My Coffin Posts: 1,227	Will you pay the $750.00 ???? Will you pay the $750.00 to keep Visa?

10-08-2002, 04:03 PM	#5
Pete Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Mr. Rogers Neighborhood Posts: 6,617	Dont have much of a choice. Either pay or sit back and watch everyone else make the money __________________ Evoke Electronics

10-08-2002, 04:04 PM	#6
Amputate Your Head There can be only one Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Somewhere else Posts: 39,075	no... I will not pay. __________________ SIG TOO BIG

10-08-2002, 04:37 PM	#8
Backov Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Cat Detector Van Posts: 1,600	You pretty much have to if you have any real amount of active members.. Otherwise you're just throwing a lot of money away.. We'll be reluctantly paying em. Cheers, Backov __________________ <embed src="http://banners.spotbrokers.com/button.swf" FlashVars="clickURL=http://banners.spotbrokers.com" quality=high pluginspage="http://www.macromedia.com/shockwave/download/index.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" width="120" height="60"></embed>

10-08-2002, 03:54 PM	#2
KingK7 Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 6,372	If you have over 750$ in rebills, you will

10-08-2002, 04:00 PM	#3
Mr.Fiction Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Free Speech Land Posts: 9,484	You should have made both answers YES just to piss people off.

10-08-2002, 04:02 PM	#4
Danielle Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: My Coffin Posts: 1,227	LOL Mr.Fiction! Good one! Hugs, Danielle

10-08-2002, 04:06 PM	#7
ColKurtz So Fucking Banned Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Cambodia Posts: 596	My vote is no. I have a variety of reasons why. - Too much indecision. All of these billers is interpreting the rules different except the 3 that got together and decided to price fix. - Not going to blindly hand over money. Whether it be $750 or ten fucking cents. - Not worth paying that to stay with a 3rd party that can't even offer protection any more. Its basically like having to get a merchant account yet still pay 15% Those are just some of the reasons.

10-08-2002, 04:42 PM	#9
Sunshine McGillicutty So Fucking Banned Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: California Posts: 475	Nope, for 2 reasons: 1. ACPay 2. Globill There are more of course, those are just the ones I'm using.

10-08-2002, 04:42 PM	#10
gothweb Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Back in the USSA Posts: 8,849	Should probably have been an option for "Don't Have To". A lot of people will be voting "No" because it doesn't apply to them. __________________ Photos by Ian X.: Distinctive photos of goth babes. Blood Money:Your traffic, my sites, our money. MojoHost: Still the best.

10-08-2002, 04:52 PM	#11
Screwed Up Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: African Planet Posts: 1,118	No. Not because it's a lot of money. But because I refuse to support these business practices ... It's not about $750. I don't care if it was $20. This means they can change "the rules" again within 2 months and ask another $750 ...

10-08-2002, 05:00 PM	#13
Gator Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Don't live on GFY Posts: 1,119	I'll be paying twice (don't want to keep all my eggs in one basket).

10-08-2002, 05:02 PM	#14
.:Frog:. Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: ~ C A N A D A ~ Posts: 2,123	I'm thinking of using less sponsors that are 100% dependant on the big3. You know scrubbing is going to increase and that puts rebills right in the toilet. The more pressure that is put on the sponsor the more bullshit gets passed on to the webmaster sending the traffic. __________________ <a href="http://www.pornopayouts.com/?rid=pp3076">PornoPayouts</a> Tons of Hosted Galleries.

10-08-2002, 05:23 PM	#15
BrettJ ol' timer Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Seattle WA Posts: 4,715	Of course We Will!!!

10-08-2002, 05:26 PM	#16
Lexxx Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Boston Posts: 1,489	$750 is nothing in this business... so yes. __________________ SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, then you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60.

10-08-2002, 05:40 PM	#18
Amputate Your Head There can be only one Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Somewhere else Posts: 39,075	oh yeah.... and take another 15% off the top for the processors for the privelege.... __________________ SIG TOO BIG

10-08-2002, 06:01 PM	#21
Swiftone Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 337	Nope my sites are with Glo-bill (have been with since before this 'situation') so hopefully I am in the clear (depending on if Globill ever gets sucked up in the Visa red tape or not). __________________ Yo.

10-08-2002, 08:12 PM	#22
Lexxx Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Boston Posts: 1,489	Wait so if one url gets disapproved then the entire account will be terminated? That makes little sense but none of this does anyway... __________________ SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, then you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60.

10-08-2002, 08:22 PM	#23
Webby Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Far far away - as possible Posts: 14,956	Nope.. not paying! For may reasons, but main one's are intrusion, unreliability, extension of over-restriicive laws/rules/privacy within the US. Ya gotta wonder why, out of all global banking regions, the US granted this "priviledge" to VISA in the first instance - just insane and in keeping with the current trend in favor of US corporates.

10-08-2002, 08:42 PM	#24
sexyclicks Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: c9media.com Posts: 3,240	wow the score is 50-50

10-08-2002, 09:40 PM	#25
Honeyslut Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Ass Valley, Ca Posts: 6,436	Glo bill __________________ http://nakedlunchnews.comWhat's up ? Naked Lunch News !

10-08-2002, 09:44 PM	#26
strainer Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Philadelphia Posts: 418	Yep, going to pay it twice, first to IBill and then to PayPal when they get around to demanding it. We sell tangible products (dvds, video) and I haven't seen any alternatives posted that help me out, and last I checked, around 60% of sales were Visa. Steve