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Old 05-19-2008, 01:49 AM   #1
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:mad WTF is Wrong With AEBN?

Why are you bidding like $2 for every porn keyword on Google Adwords, advertising moviemonster? Do you realize that you're losing a fucking ton every day doing that? Or your "PPC guy" keeps telling you "I'm getting you lots of traffic!" ? Fire that retard quick! Is anyone from AEBN corporate here?
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Old 05-19-2008, 06:25 AM   #2
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Old 05-19-2008, 06:49 AM   #3
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He want to say they pay toomuch for ppc beacuse of bidding to non profitable keywords.
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Old 05-19-2008, 06:52 AM   #4
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Why are you bidding like $2 for every porn keyword on Google Adwords, advertising moviemonster? Do you realize that you're losing a fucking ton every day doing that? Or your "PPC guy" keeps telling you "I'm getting you lots of traffic!" ? Fire that retard quick! Is anyone from AEBN corporate here?

There's no money in search engine marketing.
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Why are you bidding like $2 for every porn keyword on Google Adwords, advertising moviemonster? Do you realize that you're losing a fucking ton every day doing that? Or your "PPC guy" keeps telling you "I'm getting you lots of traffic!" ? Fire that retard quick! Is anyone from AEBN corporate here?
I'm sure AEBN is making a profit from it. Want my AEBN ref code?
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hahahahahahaha

I know the guy, and I know what they make, and if they fired him it would be a HUGE mistake

suck you don't get it ;)
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He's mad that he can't compete
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Old 05-19-2008, 09:48 AM   #9
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hahahahahahaha

I know the guy, and I know what they make, and if they fired him it would be a HUGE mistake

suck you don't get it ;)
He should be fired for telling you how much they make, and you shouldn't get him in trouble by posting that here.
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Why are you bidding like $2 for every porn keyword on Google Adwords, advertising moviemonster? Do you realize that you're losing a fucking ton every day doing that? Or your "PPC guy" keeps telling you "I'm getting you lots of traffic!" ? Fire that retard quick! Is anyone from AEBN corporate here?
How do you know he is paying $2? You have no way of knowing that.
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Old 05-19-2008, 10:00 AM   #11
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"Why are you bidding like $2 for every porn keyword on Google Adwords"

I know you want to sound like you 'know something' - but trust me, it's not working.
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Old 05-19-2008, 10:24 AM   #13
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He should be fired for telling you how much they make, and you shouldn't get him in trouble by posting that here.
well, it isn't like I know an exact figure, LOL...but I do know they aren't hurtin
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I'm sure AEBN knows what they are doing. Why do you care anyway?
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How do you know he is paying $2? You have no way of knowing that.
didn't you know, every_single porn keyword on google is $2, they have been running that special for years now
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Old 05-19-2008, 11:41 AM   #16
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hahahahahahaha

I know the guy, and I know what they make, and if they fired him it would be a HUGE mistake

suck you don't get it ;)
Bullshit. I'm pretty sure you just made this up.

Look, this is their ad:

Top Gay Porn Series
Watch adult movies online now
Choose From Over 50,000 Movies Now!
www.MovieMonster.com

Now the kicker is that they're showing it on 1000s of *STRAIGHT* keywords. You can imagine the "great" clickthru and conversion this results in. They're also bidding crazy high on them and paying I would estimate 90cents+ per click.

Only a complete retard would run a PPC campaign like that.

He's burning a hole in AEBN. I think the management just didn't notice yet.

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Old 05-19-2008, 11:46 AM   #17
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Old 05-19-2008, 12:00 PM   #18
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Bullshit. I'm pretty sure you just made this up.

Look, this is their ad:

Top Gay Porn Series
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Choose From Over 50,000 Movies Now!
www.MovieMonster.com

Now the kicker is that they're showing it on 1000s of *STRAIGHT* keywords. You can imagine the "great" clickthru and conversion this results in. They're also bidding crazy high on them and paying I would estimate 90cents+ per click.

Only a complete retard would run a PPC campaign like that.

He's burning a hole in AEBN. I think the management just didn't notice yet.
I don't lie or make shit up, EVER, and I don't appreciate the accusation


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Old 05-19-2008, 12:11 PM   #19
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Bullshit. I'm pretty sure you just made this up.

Look, this is their ad:

Top Gay Porn Series
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Choose From Over 50,000 Movies Now!
www.MovieMonster.com

Now the kicker is that they're showing it on 1000s of *STRAIGHT* keywords. You can imagine the "great" clickthru and conversion this results in. They're also bidding crazy high on them and paying I would estimate 90cents+ per click.

Only a complete retard would run a PPC campaign like that.

He's burning a hole in AEBN. I think the management just didn't notice yet.
Wouldn't GAY ads on STRAIGHT keywords have LOOOOOW clickthru but HIIIIIGH conversion? Sounds like a decent strategy?
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Old 05-19-2008, 12:26 PM   #20
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btw, if you have issues with any of what AEBN is going, you can call your google rep and complain
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Bullshit. I'm pretty sure you just made this up.

Look, this is their ad:

Top Gay Porn Series
Watch adult movies online now
Choose From Over 50,000 Movies Now!
www.MovieMonster.com

Now the kicker is that they're showing it on 1000s of *STRAIGHT* keywords. You can imagine the "great" clickthru and conversion this results in. They're also bidding crazy high on them and paying I would estimate 90cents+ per click.

Only a complete retard would run a PPC campaign like that.

He's burning a hole in AEBN. I think the management just didn't notice yet.
Ok first it's $2 now it's 90¢. So which is it and how do you know?
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Wouldn't GAY ads on STRAIGHT keywords have LOOOOOW clickthru but HIIIIIGH conversion? Sounds like a decent strategy?
Seems like a good point to me, if you don't click they don't pay.

If you happen to want a gay site then they don't have any competition.
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I buy this exact traffic and have for awhile now. 80% of the people buying these related words are losing hard on at least 50% of the purchased words. It's clear to see they are buying volume and overall that massive exposure turns a profit. Volume is god after all.

But that doesn't mean volume is logical and in this case, several people are making themselves and everyone else buying these phrases, spend far more than they should.

Even more so when a good number of the phrases people have purchased for, years.. simply don't turn a profit, no matter what vod/wl solution you use.

Hell, some vod solutions don't even provide enough stats to let you match that data up enough to know if it is turning a profit or not. So how the hell anyone buys words for them is beyond me.
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i dont do adwords much but they could just be buying ads at a loss in order to make people like yourself give up on looking to bid on those terms, or they could be "tasting" each keyword to get an idea of value. any number of things , including just straight making money
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...But that doesn't mean volume is logical and in this case, several people are making themselves and everyone else buying these phrases, spend far more than they should...
Perhaps that's intentional - force others to pay more than they would otherwise; raise the barrier of entry to competitors.

And as others have already pointed out, AEBN is not paying $2 for those clicks most of the time, if ever at all.

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Perhaps that's intentional - force others to pay more than they would otherwise; raise the barrier of entry to competitors.

And as others have already pointed out, AEBN is not paying $2 for those clicks most of the time, if ever at all.

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I have known of companies (not saying AEBN is doing it at all) that have paid those prices and lost only to force competition out.

The other thing is a lot of listings are AEBN's WMs, not AEBN themselves. So the WMs must be making some good cash with AEBN to keep forking over those prices.

And yes, VOD keywords are that expensive.
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Perhaps that's intentional - force others to pay more than they would otherwise; raise the barrier of entry to competitors.

And as others have already pointed out, AEBN is not paying $2 for those clicks most of the time, if ever at all.

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See, you can't 'force' it to happen, it happens because people don't know 'how' to use Adwords. Nobody forces me out with the higher prices, it just makes it so I buy less trash words that don't produce very well anyway.

You can tell, very easily by looking, if the correct matching is made on the keywords, related ad, url, and landing page - and very quickly see and know what the quality score would be.
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I buy this exact traffic and have for awhile now. 80% of the people buying these related words are losing hard on at least 50% of the purchased words. It's clear to see they are buying volume and overall that massive exposure turns a profit. Volume is god after all.

But that doesn't mean volume is logical and in this case, several people are making themselves and everyone else buying these phrases, spend far more than they should.

Even more so when a good number of the phrases people have purchased for, years.. simply don't turn a profit, no matter what vod/wl solution you use.

Hell, some vod solutions don't even provide enough stats to let you match that data up enough to know if it is turning a profit or not. So how the hell anyone buys words for them is beyond me.
Ding, ding, ding. We have a 2-d post from someone who knows what they're talking about! (the first was from me
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looks like they got the wind of this and they changed up their ad now from gay to straight. ok, thats progress. now if you'd only stop bidding insane amounts per click - youd stop burning money.
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I don't understand the fuzzz, let them burn cash, they don't get traffic from me anyway, so i don't mind their budget, non of my business. If one of my top sponsors who i make good cash with does this, i would perhaps think like you do, but still, whats the background idea of starting this post?
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looks like they got the wind of this and they changed up their ad now from gay to straight. ok, thats progress. now if you'd only stop bidding insane amounts per click - youd stop burning money.
You truly have no clue
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care to elaborate, 5-word wonder?
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and how the hell would you know anything?
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